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81  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Favorite WebOS Game? on: February 08, 2012, 02:52:42 PM
Any touchpad people out there have favorite gaming apps they want to share?
82  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: samsung galaxy nexus on: February 06, 2012, 05:21:09 PM
It really depends what you are looking for. I have an original droid. I've run it unrooted, with Pete's Bugless Beast, and with Cyanogenmod. To me, Pete's Bugless Beast is the best. It is fast, stable, and clean. Cyanogenmod adds some really cool features, like locked-screen gestures. But, my droid just doesn't have the horsepower to really handle it. I noticed a huge slowdown for me with Cyanogenmod vs PBB, so I went back to the latest of PBB and am happy as a clam (really just biding time now til I have a compelling reason to buy a new phone...the droid Razr Maxx is tempting me!).
83  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The 2012 Health Improvement Thread on: February 04, 2012, 11:25:27 PM
I'm back to being paleo + some cheese and it just amazes me the differences compared to when I was just eating what is normally considered 'healthy'. I spent 3 weeks overseas where I was surfing, paddling in surf skis, doing pullups, pushups, running and swimming every day (I'd typically get 3 of those done in a day, sometimes more). I ate decently well, but didn't try to avoid any types of foods. Ate when I was hungry, stopped mostly when I was full. I put on some muscle mass, and along with it body fat.

I came back and have been paleo for 1 month after being non-paleo for about 6 months or so. In one month my body fat has dropped, my energy levels have improved, I am sleeping better, I am less tired... the list goes on and on. Now I just need to get time to seriously lift weights again. I typically weigh in around 160-165. At my peak I was deadlifting a little over 300, and did a single set of 20 squats at 215lbs. Sets of 15-20 pullups weren't a big drama for me. I'm a long ways off that right now, but my back and shoulders are very strong thanks to the swimming and pullups.

The key is finding something that works for you, that you can keep doing long-term. I've realized for me that is a grain-free diet, with a little cheese here and there. The exercise is an important factor for overall health. Strength training is a must for any person. I personally am a huge fan of Mark's Daily Apple and his workout philosophy which boils down to this:

Twice a week, lift heavy things.
Four times a week, move slowly/play (low level aerobic activity)
Once a week, sprint (all-out effort).

The lift heavy things can be done in four exercises. Pushups. Pullups. Squats. Planks. You can branch beyond that if you want, and I would encourage it, but not really necessary. Feel free to do with it what you want, but it might be helpful to some of you.
5 times a week do a low intensity workout (like walking).
84  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Desperately need Cisco, UC, UCS engineers (Central US) on: February 03, 2012, 01:13:04 PM

Quote from: TK-421 on February 02, 2012, 07:19:23 PM

That depends, what is your Holiday Inn Express to Super 8 sleepover ratio?

I have never stayed at a Super 8, but have stayed at Holiday Inn Expresses, so it is technically INFINITY!
85  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Desperately need Cisco, UC, UCS engineers (Central US) on: February 02, 2012, 07:12:27 PM
I am not a CISCO engineer. But I am an engineer and I bought a TV at a COSTCO. Is that close enough?
86  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: National Popular Vote: Good or Bad Idea? on: January 13, 2012, 02:47:38 PM

Quote from: Razgon on January 13, 2012, 08:35:51 AM

If a large enough percentage of your population votes for the Crazy Party, shouldn't they be represented, no matter what you think about them? Isn't that the basis for Democracy?

Let's say that only 5% of your population does. In the situation I'm listing above, that party representing 5% of the population actually has a HUGE impact - their legislative impact can in fact significantly outweigh that of a party that wins 20 or 30% of the vote. That's the problem with political coalitions.

For the record, I despise the two-party system.
87  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: National Popular Vote: Good or Bad Idea? on: January 12, 2012, 11:25:14 PM

Quote from: TiLT on January 09, 2012, 08:13:53 AM

I believe the best thing that could happen for the US, politically, would be for every vote to count individually, regardless of state (I guess that's what national popular vote means?) and to get rid of the winner-takes-all mentality. I say this as someone who lives in a country where both these things are in effect already, and it works very well. It's rare for a single party to get a majority vote, so they have to cooperate with other parties. These could even be some of the smallest parties as long as it gets them the majority, which means that even fringe opinions could end up having a certain degree of power.

The problem is this could mean fringe opinions garner huge amounts of power. Party A gets almost the number required to run the show. Party J is a crazy left-wing environmental group who is the only ones willing to broker a deal with Party A, and puts them into control. Party J now holds Party A hostage frequently, getting crazy legislature passed so that Party A also gets what it wants. How is this healthy?
88  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / samsung galaxy nexus on: January 09, 2012, 08:29:15 PM
Does anyone around here have 1 of these bad boys? My droid is dying by the minute and I am in the market for a new phone. Reviews seem positive but I would like some impressions from a person who actually lives with it
89  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GT Community: Pick your favorite PC game of 2011 on: December 25, 2011, 02:24:39 AM
Battlefield 3.
90  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Identical Twin Boys, Become Brother and Sister on: December 19, 2011, 03:24:39 AM
One of the big problems with our society is that there is such a thing as 'girls toys' vs 'boys toys'. They are toys. Boys and girls shouldn't be pressured into playing with certain types of toys by society based on their genders.
91  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Post your holiday loot... on: December 12, 2011, 07:32:40 PM
My loot: 2 days in Vegas, 2 weeks in Australia and 1 week in Fiji. Who needs stuff? biggrin
92  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How fast can you type? (Typing test) on: December 10, 2011, 03:26:00 AM
Adjusted between 75 and 80, 0-3 errors. I find quotations slow me down in a huge way.
93  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I passed! I'm now a 4th Dan on: November 30, 2011, 03:34:40 PM

Quote from: USMC Kato on November 30, 2011, 06:40:47 AM

So is it true that when the Crane Kick is done correctly, there is no defense?

Hehe. I actually teach jump front kick to my white belts as a way to help get them working hard and developing their balance and coordination.
94  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I passed! I'm now a 4th Dan on: November 22, 2011, 01:42:13 AM
Congrats Ron. I started martial arts with Tang Soo Do, and it holds a special place in my heart. You should be both proud and humble regarding your accomplishment!
95  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration on: November 20, 2011, 08:36:57 PM

Quote from: Rumpy on November 20, 2011, 08:34:28 PM

Way for the EU to go against scientific fact.

Way to not read any of the follow-up discussion or further information about the ruling slywink
96  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: WTB: Wii Games! on: November 11, 2011, 12:49:17 PM
Great. Thanks!
97  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / WTB: Wii Games! on: November 10, 2011, 11:31:47 PM
Hit me up if you're interested in selling any of yours. I'm unfamiliar with titles at the moment, so don't be shy! Hit me up either in PM or here.
98  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [College Football] Joe Paterno Retiring - scratch that, Fired! on: November 10, 2011, 09:06:18 PM

Quote from: gellar on November 10, 2011, 07:22:53 PM

Let's go over what happened:

Some had called for him to resign immediately because of his response to allegations brought to him in 2002 by a graduate assistant, who said he had seen retired defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, now 67, sexually assaulting a young boy in a shower at the campus football complex.

Paterno reported the allegations to his boss.


That certainly puts a different spin on things, and is far more specific than what I originally heard (which was just that someone had reported a vague wrong-doing on the part of Sandusky to Joepa). With that, I would say the only out Joe really gets is if his AD comes to him and says "We spoke to all parties concerned, nobody says anything happened and nobody wants to press charges of any kind." Even then though I wonder what police procedure is with regards to allegations of child abuse. Do they need a complaint from the victim in order to investigate?

Understand I'm not trying to make excuses for Joe. It appears the information I gave my initial reaction from was incomplete, and I'm very wary of jumping on lynching bandwagons when there's large room for error. The room for error certainly appears to be decreasing somewhat. I still don't know that he should have been fired 100% right now given that we don't have the full story, but perhaps the board of trustees knows more than we do.
99  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [College Football] Joe Paterno Retiring - scratch that, Fired! on: November 10, 2011, 06:58:05 PM
Quote from: Crux
But the question is, did he know of raping kids?... if he knew and did nothing then he's a scumbag who pretends to live to higher ideals.

Quote from: gellar
See that's where you and I differ on opinion.  If someone says 'hey, I'm pretty sure Steve on your team is raping some kids', my first response would be to go to my VP and tell him, sure.  But if my VP does fuck all, my next move isnt 'OH WELL, DID MY PART.'  My next move is calling the cops.

Can you explain to me the part where we differ exactly? To me the big unknowns are exactly what he was told originally. What he passed on to the AD. And then if there was ever ANY sort of closure given to him regarding the matter. Eg did the AD come to him later and say "Joe, we looked into it through all the proper channels and it turns out it was a false alarm". Or did the whole thing just disappear into a black hole of everyone pretending nothing happened?

Those are two very different things. Don't act like I'm defending the guy for what he's done. I'm not. I'm simply saying we don't know exactly what he's done yet, so throwing the rope over the tree limb might be a bit premature. That's all.
100  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [College Football] Joe Paterno Retiring - scratch that, Fired! on: November 10, 2011, 05:26:47 PM

Quote from: gellar on November 10, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

Quote from: Crux on November 10, 2011, 01:39:23 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on November 09, 2011, 04:01:37 PM

When I was a manager, my people were my responsibility.  If I needed help from higher ups to investigate/resolve an issue, I could seek help, but I was still involved and usually the one taking direct actions. 

I thought the whole society of a football team was that the head coach was THE BOSS to everyone below him, especially since most of them bring their personnel with him.  If all he did was hand it off to the people above him and leave it at that, I consider him to be a poor manager.  We'll never know the specifics of what he did or didn't know for sure, but he's still this guy's boss and should have been involved.  Reports to higher ups about issues like this shouldn't be a black hole and a hand washing. 

But he's not a manager in a business sense. He's a football coach. About two years ago, we fired an assistant soccer coach for having a relationship with one of her players. The head soccer coach wasn't held responsible, and wasn't involved in the process in any way beyond being asked what he knew about her indiscretions. Most Athletic Directors are going to get information from their coaches, not involve them in the firing of employees unless there is reason to do so. I had to fire the coach of the swim team once as Associate AD - nobody from the swimming program was involved, and I know when anyone gets in trouble, it isn't broadcast for all to know about. Heck I still don't tell people why the swim coach was fired and that was years ago now.

We're not talking about knowing an employee did things against the employee handbook, we're talking about knowledge of raping kids.  His obligation as a human fucking being outranks his obligation as the head football coach.

Right. But the question is, did he know of raping kids? If not, then how do we blame him? It isn't his job to go investigating claims against his Assistant Coach or anyone else related to his program accused of wrong-doing. In fact, he'd probably get in trouble for doing so because there's protocols in place for these kinds of things. If he knew, then sure. He should have made sure something was done. No doubt about it. And if he knew and did nothing then he's a scumbag who pretends to live to higher ideals.

Time will tell. I'm just not eager to lynch the guy based off the fact that he reported some level of wrong-doing to the authorities he was *supposed* to, whose job it is to deal with these kinds of things.
101  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [College Football] Joe Paterno Retiring - scratch that, Fired! on: November 10, 2011, 03:58:39 PM

Quote from: morlac on November 10, 2011, 02:31:01 PM

Joepa is not just another coach.  He is Penn State University and is/was the most powerful coach in college footbal.  You are miataken if you think his input would not be taken into account on any firings.
I'm sure your swimming program is nice but comparing it to a multi million dollar footbal factory is not accurate. 

Every athletic department has its own politics and culture. I find it interesting that you talk as though you know with 100% certainty what Penn States' is. In all reality, it would depend entirely on the nature of the firing. As with the assistant soccer coach, if her firing was related to her performance, then you better believe the head coach would have been directly involved. When it happens as a result of her having inappropriate relationships with players, then you better believe they intentionally keep the head coach separate from things so they cannot unduly influence things.

Exactly how they do things at Penn State, who knows? I don't. You don't. A lot of you can suppose how it is because you look at Paterno as some godfather like figure who really 'ran things' from behind the scenes. Penn State will be a multimillion dollar football factory whether or not he is there. And clearly he's not untouchable. Clearly he doesn't make all of the decisions. The way some of you talk, you'd think he could be firing the board of trustees, not the other way around.
102  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [College Football] Joe Paterno Retiring on: November 10, 2011, 01:39:23 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on November 09, 2011, 04:01:37 PM

When I was a manager, my people were my responsibility.  If I needed help from higher ups to investigate/resolve an issue, I could seek help, but I was still involved and usually the one taking direct actions.  

I thought the whole society of a football team was that the head coach was THE BOSS to everyone below him, especially since most of them bring their personnel with him.  If all he did was hand it off to the people above him and leave it at that, I consider him to be a poor manager.  We'll never know the specifics of what he did or didn't know for sure, but he's still this guy's boss and should have been involved.  Reports to higher ups about issues like this shouldn't be a black hole and a hand washing.  

But he's not a manager in a business sense. He's a football coach. About two years ago, we fired an assistant soccer coach for having a relationship with one of her players. The head soccer coach wasn't held responsible, and wasn't involved in the process in any way beyond being asked what he knew about her indiscretions. Most Athletic Directors are going to get information from their coaches, not involve them in the firing of employees unless there is reason to do so. I had to fire the coach of the swim team once as Associate AD - nobody from the swimming program was involved, and I know when anyone gets in trouble, it isn't broadcast for all to know about. Heck I still don't tell people why the swim coach was fired and that was years ago now.
103  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] Your Highness on: October 31, 2011, 05:49:04 PM
I made it through the whole thing yesterday. It wasn't great, it wasn't absolutely terrible. Some funny moments, many missed opportunities. Probably the best I've ever seen Natalie Portman look in a movie for what it's worth, and they did some fantastic push-up-bra work with Zooey!

That asides, it was extremely juvenile, and I guess I was left wondering what they could do to make it better - and I don't say that because it was perfect. I guess I just wonder what more they can do with that kind of a take on your typical fantasy film. Besides a better script biggrin The action sequences were good enough, and there were some cool scenes. Just too much bad dialogue, and too many awkward scenes that didn't quite work.

It's a C, maybe a C+ if you're in the right mood for it. But if you don't find the trailer at all funny then it's an F, because the trailer has most of the best of the movie comedy-wise.
104  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] Act of Valor on: October 20, 2011, 12:47:21 AM

Quote from: Roman on October 19, 2011, 06:54:03 PM

saw this over @ IMDB last week - I though SEALS' identities were secret?


As a military unit I don't think they have to keep their faces hidden. Unless I'm mistaken, the average SEAL team doesn't do undercover work of any sort, unlike Delta. As in, I don't think they ever go to a target via civilian means.
105  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie]Taken 2 the Sequel on: October 17, 2011, 01:47:21 AM

Quote from: Blackjack on October 15, 2011, 03:12:13 PM

While I got some yucks from Taken on cable, it seemed a little ridiculous at times. It could've been a comedy if they tweaked it just a bit, with Neeson's character walking into rooms and saying "If you don't return my daughter safely, I'll kill everybody in this room. Just using my left pinky..." I never sensed he was physically vulnerable in the movie. He'd just walk into a room, everybody dies but him, and he moves on. I guess I root more for protagonists who get their butts kicked but keep fighting (Indiana Jones, Batman, etc.). Maybe in the 2nd film, he does have a hair of vulnerability. Maybe he has to use his index finger to kill everybody in a room.  Bring your own!

You know he did get pretty beat up at the end of the movie. But the realism of the violence is one of the things I really loved about it - in real life, people don't take twenty blows to the head and then fight back and keep going. The way he put people down so hard and fast is how it goes in real life - if you're good and playing for keeps, fights are short, brutal, and often end with only one person taking real damage. Not saying that's the way it always goes, but very frequently so.
106  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Would you change your online nickname? on: October 16, 2011, 09:00:35 PM
I did change mine once, and I don't forsee doing it again. When I first signed up for gonegold, I used "aussie15" or something like that. But I did it to ask a question or something, not with the intent of becoming a part of a community and being known by it. I don't think I'd change it if some game or the like came out using the word Crux in the title now.
107  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Need a new hat on: October 12, 2011, 02:07:34 AM
Try a fedora. You might be able to pull it off.
108  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Game of Thrones TV series starts now! on: October 11, 2011, 12:35:46 AM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on July 08, 2011, 01:39:28 PM

Yah, I'm curious how they are going to transform her into The Maid of Tarth...

"Brienne is abnormally large and strong for a woman, and exceeds most men in size. She has large, very blue eyes that appear trusting and guileless, but they are her only attractive feature. She is extremely broad-shouldered, but has virtually no bust. Her face is broad and coarse, with a nose that has been broken several times. Her mouth is too wide, with prominent and crooked teeth and lips so plump they seem swollen. Her hair is the color of dirty straw and her face is mottled with freckles."

At least she looks to have the right height.

Just now catching up with this thread, but...



That is a large, broad shoulders, virtually no busted woman. The facial stuff should be relatively easy to do between makeup and false teeth. The tough part will be getting someone to teach her some decent posture to help her look stronger and more athletic than her slouchy self really is.
109  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: AP Just reported Steve Jobs passed on: October 08, 2011, 10:16:03 PM
Reading more about him, I have to say: I don't think I would want to work for the man, nor would I have him as a close friend. But I'm also glad there are people out there with his drive and will. It's just not the presence I would want in my life on a regular basis.
110  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Best shoes for working on your feet all day? on: October 06, 2011, 01:58:39 PM
If you can get away with it attire-wise I would highly recommend vibrams. I wear them all day every day now and I feel so much better than I used to after a long day on my feet.
111  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: HP webOS! Pre 3! Veer! TouchPad!!! on: October 04, 2011, 03:29:41 PM
That actually makes me happy. I bought two unopened in box off craigslist. A 16gb model for $225, and a 32gb for $270. One was for me, one was for someone else. I absolutely love the device - it's become a daily use thing for me at home, and so much easier to take out than a laptop.
112  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amazing Soccer Goal on: October 04, 2011, 03:27:01 PM
It was fantastic. I can't tell which I am more impressed by - the bicycle kick, or the first touch he made that helped set it up.
113  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Conan O'Brien Stares At Nicole Scherzinger's Cleavage on: September 25, 2011, 04:56:42 PM
Now Conan O'Brien and I have something in common. We've both stared at Nicole Scherzinger's cleavage.
114  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Streaming through Amazon Prime on: September 21, 2011, 10:36:53 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on September 21, 2011, 07:12:24 PM

I have a sony bluray player that you can stream amazon prime through.  It's an app on the box just like netflix.  The selection is awful though, just like netflix.

I think it is far worse than netflix as far as selection goes.
115  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / LF PSP Games on: September 18, 2011, 11:52:39 AM
Any of the God of War titles
Ratchet and Clank
Final Fantasy
Any Lego titles

Hit me up if you're interested in selling or trading!
116  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Lifestyle] Breaking my addiction to white powder. on: September 15, 2011, 12:21:46 PM

Quote from: cheeba on September 14, 2011, 02:35:12 PM

You don't get it, which is not surprising. You say I can't speak here because I have not lost weight and maintained it. Purge has also not lost weight and maintained it, but you've said nothing about his expertise. You think you are an expert even though you have not lost weight and maintained it. You say I'm no expert, so I list a bunch of experts who think Paleo is the worst of the recent fad diets. Your response is that your expert is better than those experts.

You don't get it, which is not surprising. It isn't that you can't speak here. It's that I don't get why you're speaking here. You are doing something that is currently helping you to lose weight. Great. But you persist in hanging around a thread about a specific diet, arguing as to why people shouldn't pursue that diet. And your argument consists essentially of this:

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But I don't like diets that tell you that you cannot eat certain foods

We get you don't like those diets, cheeba. Nobody is telling you that you need to be on one. You have your own choice to make. Why do you persist on attacking an effective and healthy diet and try to dissuade people from trying it because it doesn't meet your personal dietary preferences?

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My opinion is that you're just talking out of your ass and you are completely ridiculous for telling anyone they shouldn't listen to anyone else.

Well, there's a couple of problems with this sentence. For one, I am not talking out of my ass. I keep explaining this, but you seem to keep willfully ignoring it. I've been receiving dietary education related to athletic performance since I was a kid. In addition to all of those various seminars, lectures etc etc, I was a college scholarship athlete, where I received even more dietary education. Following this I played a sport at a professional level, where I personally consulted with professional dieticians. Since then, I have been a college tennis coach, where continuing education on diet is a part of my job. In addition to this, I have tried multiple diets, and coached people using multiple diets. I personally have had great success with paleo. I've coached people, both in tennis and in martial arts, who have had great success with paleo (none of whom do crossfit, fyi). I've known dozens of people who live on paleo, and every single one of them both loves it and has great success on it. Yes there are people who know more biology than I do. But when it comes to hands on applications, I doubt there's more than one or two people who have more experience on these boards than I do. You are not one of them.

Paleo is not the only way to live. I will only tell people not to listen to you when it comes to your aggressive criticism of a diet that works, when you have never even tried it yourself. People are more than welcome to try it your way. It can be done. I've said this before, and I'll say it again: I maintained a healthy body weight as an adult for more than 10 years using essentially a combination of moderation and exercise. I'm telling people a simple truth: if they can eat paleo, they will get better weight loss results in a healthier way without having to feel hungry.

You don't like paleo - we all get that. You don't like having what you can eat restricted and prefer to restrict how much of it you eat. We get that. What exactly is your goal in continuing to post in this thread? If you want to educate people on your lifestyle choice, then make your own thread about it. People who want to read about it can then ask you questions in that thread. That's what Purge did, and yet you continue to post here arguing.
117  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: September 15, 2011, 11:51:35 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on September 14, 2011, 04:01:34 PM

I AM a bit confused how he quoted my explanation only to respond with the exact same explanation...

Sadly, I missed yours the first time through, then went back to quote ibdoomed's wrong explanation, and quoted yours by mistake. Win!
118  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NSFW Round Robin on: September 15, 2011, 11:49:15 AM
JCAnejo.
119  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: September 14, 2011, 03:37:31 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on September 14, 2011, 02:33:58 PM

Quote from: Purge on September 14, 2011, 02:32:15 PM

Quote from: Shinjin on September 14, 2011, 02:21:11 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on September 14, 2011, 02:15:37 PM


smile

Nope. Don't get it. Feeling like a retard - perhaps sleep deprivation will be today's excuse. slywink

It loses the funny when you explain it.

It also depends on whether the crows just got there, or are preparing to leave I suppose.  Let me know ibdoomed slywink

Spoiler for Hiden:
A group of crows is called a murder

Nononono.

It's

Spoiler for Hiden:
A group of crows is a murder of crows. They almost have a group together, so almost have a murder...
120  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Lifestyle] Breaking my addiction to white powder. on: September 14, 2011, 11:12:50 AM

Quote from: cheeba on September 14, 2011, 03:32:46 AM

Quote from: Crux on September 14, 2011, 01:21:47 AM

News flash cheeba - the fatter you are the easier it is to lose weight. Dropping from your prior state of obesity to your current state doesn't make you an expert in any way, shape or form.

Ah, so you are looking for the opinion of experts! So let's take a look at some experts, shall we?

How about the Founder and Director of Johns Hopkins Weight Management Center?
The Director of Preventative Cardiology at the University of Chicago Medical Center?
The Co-Director of the West Virginia University School of Medicine Health Research Center...
The Director of Yale University Prevention Research Center...
The Clinical Director of Northwestern Comprehensive Center on Obesity...
The Nutrition director, Duke University Diet and Fitness Center...

Those people along with 15 others with equally fancy titles all rated 20 diets for Overall Best Diet, Best Weight-Loss Diet, Best Heart Healthy Diet, and Best Diabetes Diet. Paleo came in last in every category except 1 where it was 19th. [Source]

You want to whine and say, "but you haven't done it, you're no expert!" Fine, I'm no expert. There are a bunch of people who are, so perhaps you should try to convince them how s-m-r-t you are because you've been dealing with nutrition since you were 10.

The comical thing, cheeba, is I linked to a Dr's response to that very article earlier in this thread. The guy specifically goes through and refutes the lack of research done in putting the information together and provides evidence on a point by point basis as to why paleo was not given a fair 'shot' in these rankings. You must have missed that because you were too busy writing something bad about paleo without bothering to research it slywink

But I tell you what, bring any of those experts on here and I'll happily argue diets with them smile My point is you're not in a situation to keep trying to pull the hatchet job on paleo that you seem determined to do. I just cannot for the life of me figure out why it's so important to you to keep pulling it down. It works. It's worked on every single person I've ever seen who has tried it. It's worked on every single person I've ever heard about who has tried it. Not everyone who tries it sticks with it - that's a choice, just like it is a choice to stick with any diet or lifestyle change.

Why do you have such a vested emotional interest in making sure nobody here even tries it? I know why I'm promoting it - because I've lived and seen the results, and I want to help people. You've done neither, and yet you want to make sure nobody gives it a shot. What's up with that?
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