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161  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Next gen is here! What did you get? on: November 24, 2013, 12:09:44 AM
Ok this is the final poll! It should allow you to pick as many options as you please and you can also go back update should you decide to add a device in one month or 3. I'll add an "other" option in case you're planning on doing your gaming on an Ouya or something like that. This is a poll for "Next Gen" (hereafter known as current gen) so if you're not planning on upgrading then you're in the wrong poll!
Also, to keep fanboyism/defensiveness to a medium let's keep the comments as to why you bought this console or why you didn't buy that console out of this thread. This thread is bringing results only!
162  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: 2920 Days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: November 23, 2013, 02:45:39 PM
Everyone in Japan is playing Puzzle Dragon. That must hurt Nintendo's bottom line a lot (and the other consoles).
163  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2920 Days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: November 23, 2013, 07:31:36 AM
For people with both, I'll be interested to hear feedback on how the booting, installing and loading are on each console. This article was interesting but it only tested one game. It looks like the PS4 coldboots significantly faster than the Xbox but I doubt that will be much of a factor because if most people are like me then their console has been sitting in standby mode while off for about the past 3 years at least. NBA 2k14 installed about 6 minutes faster on the PS4. Time to trot out the "just make a sandwich" retort again!
164  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Re: Re: Harry Reid Leaning Toward Filibuster Reform Vote This Week on: November 23, 2013, 06:05:25 AM

Quote from: ATB on November 23, 2013, 05:45:06 AM

No outrage at this?

What if the repubs had done it?
Unfortunately the Republicans apparently never learned the rule that if you abuse your toys then they're going to be taken away.
165  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 23, 2013, 06:03:45 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on November 23, 2013, 06:03:00 AM

Well, worst launch night for me.  Still can't get the update to work, can't get through to Support...just sitting here with a console I can't use. 
Time to get on Twitter! smile
166  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: 2920 Days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: November 23, 2013, 06:02:47 AM

Quote from: naednek on November 23, 2013, 05:28:18 AM

friend got his and his dvd player is grinding.

He said it's a common problem.
Got his what? PS4? Xbox? DVD player?
167  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: 2920 Days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: November 23, 2013, 05:23:02 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 23, 2013, 05:13:07 AM



Ok...hitting the sack.   Updated thread title.
LOL
168  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 23, 2013, 01:39:26 AM
Glad to hear that everyone is enjoying their xbox. I wonder if Sony are going to put out a "Congratulations on your launch, MS."  or if they're going to be elitist douches. smile
169  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: Xbone LAUNCH DAY!!!! Which system are you getting? on: November 23, 2013, 01:36:20 AM

Quote from: Clanwolfer on November 23, 2013, 01:06:32 AM

Now begins my favorite part... both consoles are launched, and I can start the hunt to find one in the wild on a shelf somewhere. My prediction is I won't until January, but who knows, maybe I get lucky.
I don't think it will be as hard as you think. Both seem to have got their production in order this time around. I've seen anecdotal reports of people going into their local Walmart and Target and seeing as many as two or four xbones sitting there (lol my keyboard auto corrects to xbone even when I want to say xboxes).
170  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Re: Re: Harry Reid Leaning Toward Filibuster Reform Vote This Week on: November 23, 2013, 12:20:41 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on November 22, 2013, 07:52:27 PM

Quote from: Scraper on November 22, 2013, 05:06:58 PM

That's great but what are the Dems going to do when Republicans hold the majority? I suspect they will be asking themselves WTF were we thinking?

They will use the lame duck session before they actually lose control to put the rule back in.
So, some time in the 22nd century at this rate?
171  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: [PS4] Knack on: November 22, 2013, 11:21:59 PM
Poor Knack. All the reviewers seem to hate it but all the players seem to think it's at least average.
172  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Re: Re: Bachmann Considers Suing Obama Over Canceled Plans Fix on: November 22, 2013, 02:49:12 PM

Quote from: raydude on November 22, 2013, 01:29:58 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on November 22, 2013, 12:35:05 AM

And we should just then forget his 'fix' was something completely against the law?

And yet another example of how 'you can't win for losing'. Is there any particular scenario where Obama can do something about Obamacare where you won't get outraged? Short of repealing the thing entirely?
No, cause then he would have just wasted a ton of taxpayers money from nothing. Do at this point there is literally nothing that he can do that would please them.
173  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Xbone LAUNCH DAY!!!! Which system are you getting? on: November 22, 2013, 06:58:45 AM
Who would have thought that of all people, Hetz would be the first one to have the xbone up and running!?
174  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / How has your life changed since the last "next gen"? on: November 21, 2013, 01:13:50 PM
A dawn of a new age is upon us! I guess we'll go with the 360 since that was released first. In November of 2005 I had just turned 26 and had been living in Japan for about about 7 months of my planned one year stay in Japan. I was living with my company assigned roommate who has since passed on this spring. I wasn't married and I certainly didn't have any kids (one born this September). I was in normal shape for a 26 year old but I think now I'm about 7 or 8 kg heavier at least!
175  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 24 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 12:21:01 PM
It may be a moot point but I'm wondering whether or not the Xbox will be DOA in Japan.  They've been pummeled for the past two generations, even when MS went above and beyond the call with the 360.  The 360 had a significant headstart on the PS3 and some fairly Japanese friendly games (Blue Dragon anyone?). Do we know when the Xbox is being released in Japan other than "2014"?  The PS4 will probably have the headstart this go around and will definitely have the homefield advantage.  Also MS has yet to learn some important lessons for the Japanese market. For one, they don't like humongous boxes.  The PS3 was fairly large last gen but I think the Xbox One has it beat and the competition this time will be much smaller and more suitable for a cramped entertainment space. Secondly, Kinect still requires a relatively large amount of space in order to work. It's better than last time but multiplayer still needs 6 ft of space for multiplayer. Japanese living rooms are small, small, small so that could be a problem. Thirdly, I have some doubts about how the Xbox One's media capibilities will be when it comes to Japanese TV and whatnot. Perhaps MS can get some kind of deals with the big media companies in Japan but I have my doubts. I wonder what the long term effect will be. Obviously the big name games (Resident Evil, MGS, etc) will still be produced for both consoles but what about the lesser known quirky Japanese games? Perhaps the PS4 will be the system you need if you are interested in playing those?
176  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 12:03:10 PM

Quote from: Razgon on November 21, 2013, 09:44:46 AM

There is an ugly rumor right now about Ryse featuring a lot of Microtransactions in-game.
No rumors please. We only allow facts in this thread.
177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1] Ryse on: November 21, 2013, 11:56:24 AM
What I don't understand is how no one saw this coming paranoid
Well it could be like Knack. It also go panned in the reviews but I've yet to see anyone comment "Yeah, this game is crap".  Perhaps the poor reviews lowered expectations so much that people were surprised when it actually turned out to be alright. Perhaps Ryse will be the same.
178  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 21, 2013, 06:03:49 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 04:25:02 AM


What is wrong with me?  I have KZ and NBA2k but I can't stop playing Madden.

It's the least next gen of the titles!    Damn you football season.....
Football, racing and fighting games are all part of things I will never understand I'm afraid.
179  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 04:07:37 AM
Indeed!  slywink
180  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 04:04:33 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 03:12:09 AM

Quote from: Lee on November 21, 2013, 02:41:19 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 02:14:46 AM

The other item was the voice controls.  YK posted two videos clearly showing them work, and work well.

Multiple reviews claim otherwise.

So I'm to trust a written review over what I see with my own eyes in video?

Obviously it's dependent on the user. It will work better for some and not for others. The IGN video showed that it worked horribly.  And by horribly I mean it worked about 75% of the time. Perhaps he was running his words together but it sounded perfectly natural to me. If I'm talking to my console then I don't want to speak to it as if I'm some sort of elocution coach. That goes the same for the PS4 as it does for the Xbox.
181  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 02:11:38 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 02:01:53 AM

Quote from: Hetz on November 21, 2013, 01:52:27 AM

Quote from: Canuck on November 21, 2013, 01:42:44 AM

Yes I don't understand why you're being defensive either. I don't think anyone has spared Sony. Tons of people said that they wouldn't get the PS4 if it didn't have local streaming which as an extremely valid point.
Also, why are you expecting congratulations for good reviews? Did you make the game?

Yeah, there are some people here that are VERY defensive over the XB1. I don't blame them, I'd be defensive as well and was when the shoe was on the other foot when they were kicking the PS3 all around this forum. It's kind of amusing seeing the Xbox crowd on the defensive after all the aggressive trash talking last generation. What goes around, comes around.

It's all good though. I may even get an XB1 tomorrow night. LOL....it's mine if I want it. I still don't know. It depends on Ryse reviews.

I bought both consoles back then, and I bought both this time around.  I'm not being defensive.  I'm calling people out on pure out TROLLING against the Bone these past months.  Twice today already the bandwagon jumped out of their collective pajamas on two stories that turned out to be false or totally misleading.

Edit to add:  I'm hopeful on Ryse.   The Forza reviews are positive over all, and apparently the graphics are stupid pretty.


I'm not sure that it's trolling. Are they lying? Someone posted a link to the Microsoft support page that stated specifically that it did not support surround sound. Is it their fault that MS did a 180 on so much stuff that they weren't able to update all the things they changed?  I'm not sure what the second story is so I can't comment about it.  I would have to say that Sony's shit gets posted about as often as Xboxs shit but is it their fault that MS has so much more to post about? Currently, looking at Google news, both products seem to be getting equally as warm of a reception as the other. There's no conspiracy here.
182  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 01:46:36 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 01:27:55 AM

I was then met with a diatribe of attacks against the Xbox, including such unfounded statements that voice recognition was broken when it is clearly not.
Based on what I've seen, it clearly is. If you're going to do voice control, it can't be 80% accurate.  It has to be 99.5% accurate or else it just becomes a hassle.
183  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 01:42:44 AM
Yes I don't understand why you're being defensive either. I don't think anyone has spared Sony. Tons of people said that they wouldn't get the PS4 if it didn't have local streaming which as an extremely valid point.
Also, why are you expecting congratulations for good reviews? Did you make the game?
184  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 01:38:27 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 01:01:04 AM

Quote from: Scraper on November 21, 2013, 12:09:30 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 12:02:12 AM



Saw a Bone display model on the way home tonight, and it was sexy as hell.    The design is very modern and simple.   It was also smaller than I was led to believe by the internet lynch mob.

Now I know you're smoking something. The Bone is a HUGE square box with very little design in it. Heck it looks like someone took an old desktop computer that was designed to have the monitor sit on top of it and painted it black then threw an Xbox symbol on the side. What exactly is sexy about that?

Edited to add that I couldn't care less what the machines look like, but to say it looks sexy and modern is just crazy.

I've said since the reveals that I loved the Bone design.   I never have been into Sony's style of making their consoles look oblong or oddly shaped.   The Bone is very elegant now that I've seen one in person.
I respect MSD's right to think that the Xbone is sexy. That is a subjective quality after all. Most of us and practically all of the reviews I have read would respectfully disagree however. On the other hand, who spends time looking at their console? I can barely recall what my PS3 looks like.
185  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 11:11:35 PM
I also find it odd that (not necessarily on this forum, but on the internets in general) fans of xbox have gone from "yeah I have a PS3-i mean Netflix machine-but it's all about the games man. GAMES GAMES GAMES! If I want to watch a movie I'll turn on my PS3" to "It's all about the media capabilities man. All the PS4 can do is play games. It's basically a PS 3.5."
The reversal of opinion is intriguing.
186  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 11:04:07 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 20, 2013, 10:35:13 PM

Quote from: Scraper on November 20, 2013, 09:12:58 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on November 20, 2013, 07:52:29 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 20, 2013, 04:50:40 PM

Bottom line is, speaking from someone that has a PS4 and have been playing it all week, Xbone is pushing the envelope.   PS4 is essentially PS3 2.0.

 saywhat

Yeah I did the same thing. This seems to be the standard Xbone defense these days.  saywhat

And the Xbone requires no defense.   Look at the reviews:   The Bone is scoring equal or even a notch higher on every review I've read.

Didn't you read the Engadget reviews? I believe you posted the PS4 one. You don't even need to read the review - just read the headline.
187  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 10:29:49 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 20, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

Quote
seeing the ign raw video makes me a bit bummed.  the voice commands don't appear to work any better than they did in Kinect 1.0.  in fact, it felt pretty much exactly what I remember with Kinect 1.0.  it seems like half of the time, the commands need to be repeated.  

From what I'm reading, there's a learning curve in figuring out how the Kinect wants to hear commands. If you just say "XboxForzaMotorsport5" it's not going to work and you're going to think it's non-responsive. You have to do a short pause after the Xbox to notify the unit you're about to issue the command. The IGN guy was running his words together quite often when it didn't respond. (Though I was surprised that even when he was running his words together it was still able to understand him quite often).

If you watch the video there were several times where the dude just wasn't using the right command. (For instance, saying "Xbox what's on MTV" before doing a Select).

Now I don't believe for a second that voice recognition is 100% perfect on the thing, but it is a machine and you can't blame it for not interpreting your intentions.
I'm not sure I agree with you unless by "running his words together" you mean "speaking naturally". As one review already mentioned you feel idiotic enough talking to your electronics, never mind having to do it slowly and clearly.
188  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 03:19:48 PM
In these days of smartphones and tablets, why would anyone even think of using their console browser?
189  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 02:58:17 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on November 20, 2013, 02:45:28 PM

I'm one of those people who just listen to whatever is coming out of their TV speakers so that doesnt matter to me.
190  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1]Forza 5 on: November 20, 2013, 02:56:33 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 20, 2013, 02:22:24 PM

Reviews are rolling in


Looks liks Forza is turnihng out to be the best launch game if these scores stay consistent
Great. I wish racing games did something for me. frown
191  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 01:44:07 PM
There's still two more days left! What will MSD do with his extra time?
192  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 01:12:30 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 20, 2013, 10:36:01 AM

IGN doesn't have a score up but what they do have is 23 minutes of unedited video of one of the producers using the xbox.   

I'm excited for Friday, but I can see where some frustration will crop up using the voice features

The potential is there but man was that ever painful. When I play games I want to relax, I don't want to be shouting at my console and I certainly don't want to be repeating myself. If this is the improved Kinect then what in the world was the first one like? I think I'm going to have to put myself in the camp who don't like squares all over the place. That looked really confusing. To be fair, I haven't seen how the Sony system works yet so I can't really compare. I do know that if I had a Xbox One I would be using the controller for everything.
193  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 12:45:22 PM

Quote from: Hetz on November 20, 2013, 12:21:37 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 20, 2013, 10:36:01 AM

IGN doesn't have a score up but what they do have is 23 minutes of unedited video of one of the producers using the xbox.   

I'm excited for Friday, but I can see where some frustration will crop up using the voice features

Wow, that was not a flattering video at all.

Also, it takes 1 minute and 8 seconds to boot the machine?!?!? Ugh....glad I'm waiting. Hopefully they iron this stuff out, soon.
I thought it took 22 seconds? Obviously, both consoles are unfinished-that's what's so great about the whole thing. Look at the PS3 at the beginning of the generation and at the end. If Sony does the same with the PS4 then it will be the greatest console off all time by the end of this new gen.
194  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Re: Are you board Ceekay? on: November 20, 2013, 02:25:20 AM

Quote from: Suitably Ironic Moniker on November 20, 2013, 01:04:49 AM

It's "bored" Tongue
No, he's board. As in the Gaming Trend bulletin board. He's part of the machine!
195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: 4 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 18, 2013, 03:45:59 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 18, 2013, 02:03:19 PM

Quote
Damn straight.  I've been playing Lego Marvel for the last two hours via remote play, while watching the Packer game...no SNAP required!

It just occurred to me that the solution you guys have been giving to avoid taking up game real estate on your TV via the snap feature is to instead play the game on a 5 inch screen.  saywhat  icon_biggrin
I know you're joking but a 5" screen a foot away from your face is probably just as big as a 40" TV eight feet away. Personally, I'd rather play the game on the big screen and watch the sports on the Vita. Get on that Sony!
196  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 18, 2013, 07:50:40 AM
My PS 4 has been sitting in a shipping facility in San Bernardino for two days now! Damn you lazy Americans, haven't you heard of working on a weekend!? smile
Curse Sony for releasing on a Friday and curse Amazon for not shipping overseas orders a couple of days early in order to avoid this kind of situation.
197  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 18, 2013, 06:26:28 AM
I'm a little concerned about quality issues, not because I think things are out of control but because as I'm living in Japan and I ordered from the US things won't be quite so straightforward if it comes to getting Amazon to take it back. I really, really hope I'm in the 99.96%.
198  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: 5 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 17, 2013, 02:48:57 PM
That is probably the one thing that will actually make me keep my pS4 in the end. If I had to play it on my TV I would probably never get any time on it. Can I turn on and turn of the PS4 with my Vita?
199  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: 5 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 17, 2013, 01:14:30 PM
I think Steam has saved the PC. smile
I also think that people are more likely to buy consoles these days than in the 80s or 90s even with the effect of tablets.
200  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: 5 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 17, 2013, 12:32:35 PM
Ahh you were too fast for me. That is impressive. And that's 24 hours compared to 30 days for the other consoles.

Where are the numbers for PS2 and PS1 and N64?
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