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9841  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: CoD:WaW on: November 21, 2008, 08:07:03 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on November 20, 2008, 05:01:52 PM

And here's the answer to my question of how the fuck anyone could survive 50-75 rounds of zombies...

that was deceptively simple.  oh well, expect it to be patched out soon.
9842  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Shaun White Snowboarding? on: November 21, 2008, 08:01:30 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on November 21, 2008, 07:21:11 PM

Quote from: Caine on November 21, 2008, 06:57:25 PM

is the target wii version also spruced up with the extra mountain etc?  that might be worth picking up just to have a reason to drag the balance board back out of the closet.


cool.  anyone know if the special version is a limited time deal or a the regular item they will carry?  i want to grab this, but i need to hold off for a while and would hate to miss it.
9843  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me pick a space game to play/replay on: November 21, 2008, 07:56:46 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on November 21, 2008, 07:51:23 PM

Always wanted to try Starshatter but dont own it or X3. I played the other 2 X games. I tried Darkstar One but never got into it. I dont think I know of Escape Velocity. I know I dont own it. I dont have spare money to buy anything right now.

escape velocity is often compared to space rangers in part because they are both 2d top down games.  EV is more action oriented though and i always got a star control combat vibe from it, but it also has a pretty wide range with combat, trading, missions, and ship upgrades.  played EV nova a few years back and bought it up but i haven't seen what they are up to these days.  there was a demo iirc.
9844  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Ninja Robs Convenience store on: November 21, 2008, 07:49:57 PM
An impacted 'ninja-warrior'...

no wonder he's so pissed off.  i hear being "impacted" is very painful. 

for those of you not of the medical scene,  imagine yourself in dire need of drain-o. 
9845  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: WTT: My Windows Vista Ultimate for your Vista Home Premium on: November 21, 2008, 07:46:54 PM

Quote from: Brendan on November 21, 2008, 07:44:54 PM

orrysay. slywink

np.  i asked him that myself.  i am curious, but hey, who's to look bad at a deal where i get an upgraded vista and cash?  smile
9846  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me pick a space game to play/replay on: November 21, 2008, 07:45:39 PM

Quote from: andon on November 21, 2008, 07:26:51 PM

Dark Star One.  It's Freelancer light.  The Economy is a little more dynamic, and the ability to upgrade your ship as you'd like it is a fun feature.

By the games end I have a 4 turret cruiser that would mow down ships while I used special weapons to finish them off.

also a good one.   

how about x3 post the last patch?  i hear it makes the game a lot more starter friendly and adds more to the game than just the open sandbox.  it also looks awesome.

starshatter is another one i tried a while back but never got in to.
9847  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 Impressions PC Edition on: November 21, 2008, 07:42:58 PM

Quote from: JohnathanStrange on November 20, 2008, 07:13:25 PM

I thought that review was fair and many of the points valid. Do I agree with the overall conclusion? Somewhat. The review rightly points out that Fallout 3 was striving more for the "let's put cool stuff in the game" for the sake of having cool stuff to do, regardless of whether it makes particular sense for a post-bellum world (200 years later) to still have working pre-war computers, coke machines, ammunition, useable first aid kits and other devices that should have been looted or degraded decades earlier. Even the cool atmospheric details like a woman authoring a Survival Guide or a Society for Robot freedom seemed anachronistic; the survivors needed a survival guide 199 years earlier and freeing robots seems a luxury for people on the edge of destruction. The review also notes that our wasteland is pretty densely populated mostly so to give us the opportunity to meet interesting and stimulating survivors of an ancient culture... and kill them.

Yet, these are the sort of objections that people make when they say they don't like Lost because it's so unrealistic that so many good looking people would be on the plane in the first place or that the I am Legendmovie sucked because it didn't follow R. Matheson's novella faithfully (actually I was one of those who veered towards that view but then just said "Oh, hell, I still have the novella...") and ultimately, I have to think that really recreating a more subdued, somewhat more plausible, less action-movie-style game would have probably appealed to far fewer gamers. Although I probably would have also enjoyed a less frenetic game, a more "build a shelter, hunt some food, construct a rudimentary lathe" survival game with infrequent survivor contact, I wouldn't expect anyone expecting to make money to create said game.

I'm surprised that NMA's review was relatively rant and sarcasm free; given the strong views I'd been reading there before. I love FO3 myself but I can see the reviewer's POV and share it even though I've had a lot of exciting (albeit cartoonish at times) fun. In any case, FO3's success may encourage someone to "do it right" according to his ideal and whether that's a turn-based independent or another big budget game, we'd get another opportunity to get either a gritty thoughtful ("Do I abandon the village survivors or aid them?") game or a shoot-em-up.

i have the same feelings about their review as you do and agree with the "theme park" atmosphere that you can see in fo3.  i even thought it odd early on that electricity and running water were so prevalent once you left the vault, but in the end, i can accept that a game set in a fallout world rigidly adhering to the "rules" of the accepted genre would have made the game much more desolate (no pun intended, but the word accurately describes the alternative game).  i also can accept that if nuclear technology was advanced enough to power their cars, then why would electricity be so rare as to be never seen outside a sealed vault?  it would make more sense if the power generation was obvious though, and also prone to failures or tampering.  as for running water, it really makes no sense for fire hydrants in the streets and the random bathroom to have them when in an abandoned environment, but within a maintained town like megaton, i could see it being possible.  hell, with as many things hanging over their heads, why not have some of them be water pipes?  they already have a system in place.  same with rivet city for that matter, and in that case, electricity would not be a problem either. 

the little parts, like the survival guide, also sound odd unless you consider that this one person is a little bit off her rocker to begin with.  she's probably mocked for writing a book about stuff everyone already knows by the other residents. 

small nukes also make sense if you consider their advances into miniturizing nuclear reactors.  if we advanced our tech to the point of portable reactors, why wouldn't we use the same tech for portable explosives?  we have a worry now about suitcase nukes, so that's not that big a leap either. 

his other complaints about the BoS's abundance of technology is somewhat valid though, and you should expect to see more soldiers running around without heavy weapons/armor.  the knights should have been the only ones wearing the armor, imo and it would have been nice to see them scavenge from their dead.  at least the enemy has been seen doing that. 

really though, his biggest beefs about stat increasing clothing is the biggest area where even i cannot explain it all.  i would argue that the ballcap and some other headgear increases your perception by keeping the sun out of your eyes (especially as a pale skinned vault dweller) whereas a dirty lab coat would not give you any appreciable difference for hacking a computer. 

i also think his issue with the stats is pretty valid too.  it's harder to gimp yourself here, and no stat is so critical that it dramatically alters your gameplay.  chalk this one up to 'widening your audience'.  regrettable, but i can accept that to a point. 

none of the issues he mentioned (or i agree with) change the fundamental fact that i am enjoying the hell out of this game and consider it my goty by a pretty wide margin. 
9848  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me pick a space game to play/replay on: November 21, 2008, 07:16:24 PM
none of the above


modded, of course
9849  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: WTT: My Windows Vista Ultimate for your Vista Home Premium on: November 21, 2008, 07:14:53 PM

Quote from: Brendan on November 21, 2008, 07:06:45 PM

Just to confirm, you know that Vista Ultimate is a complete superset of the functionality of Home Premium, right?

ixnay on the actfay, there brendan.  i'm trying to broker a deal slywink  biggrin
9850  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Woot Off on: November 21, 2008, 07:13:53 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 21, 2008, 05:58:58 PM

Quote from: Lee on November 21, 2008, 05:43:52 AM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 21, 2008, 05:42:26 AM

The Woot Off just had a 40 GB PS3 for $280.  And I missed it!   crybaby

Refurbished. And it lasted about as long as a BoC.

Gamestop sells refurbed 40 GBs for $350.  It would have been a deal if I had noticed.  smile

There's usually only one instance of a BoC in a Wootoff, by the way.  If you miss it, you miss it.  I got through to the order screen this time, but never could get through to the order confirmation screen.

i have been close only once and had hit the order button for three when the site timed out.  when i finally got a response, it was gone. 
9851  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Florida Teen Live-Streams His Suicide Online on: November 21, 2008, 07:12:38 PM
wasn't there either a movie about this kind of event, or a tv show about it?  i know they have had stories involving a murder posted live, but this just sounds like a plot for a law & order episode (if not, it probably will be)

it's sad that nobody took him seriously

here's the most poignant quote (from the father) i have read in a while

"The anonymity and lack of personal connection bring out the worst in people."

you said it man.  you have my sympathies.
9852  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: WTT: My Windows Vista Ultimate for your Vista Home Premium on: November 21, 2008, 07:04:49 PM
hmm.  as the discs supposedly have all versions on them, you could just swap out serial keys, right?  of course, it would make better sense to trade the package too. 

i have a full home premium i would trade you. 

9853  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: November 21, 2008, 07:01:13 PM
with any luck, i will get this in the mail today and be able to play with you all tonight.  the demo was fun and very unsettling, and i can't wait to play with a full group.
9854  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Shaun White Snowboarding? on: November 21, 2008, 06:57:25 PM
is the target wii version also spruced up with the extra mountain etc?  that might be worth picking up just to have a reason to drag the balance board back out of the closet.
9855  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] Alone in the Dark vastly improved on: November 21, 2008, 06:55:34 PM
well that blows then.  maybe i'll just wait for the ps3 version to hit the bargain bin. 

if they can't even support the versions they have with the basic functionality upgrades and ignore the whole subway sequence, then they really deserve to fail with this. 

it's too bad though, as the game had a spark of brilliance or two and should have been held back until '09. 
9856  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Help My Cat Sanctuary Win $100K -- (Cross posted at OO) on: November 20, 2008, 09:00:34 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on November 20, 2008, 05:01:00 PM

It's also per-browser (cookie based) so if you really want to fight the good fight you can vote once per browser at work and once per browser at home. 

if it's just browser based, could you not dump your cookies and re vote?  or use chrome's incognito mode and just keep hammering on it?  i would've assumed they would have a better system to stop exploits than that.

voted too btw
9857  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 20, 2008, 08:07:06 PM
had a great moment up north of dc while trying to get into a building.  came upon a very one sided match between two raiders and two super mutant brutes.  they hadn't spotted me yet, so i sniped one of the mutants in the head and then finished off with a shot to the torso.  his buddy made short work of the two raiders while i backed up around a corner and threw a grenade out near a car.  the explosion staggered the second mutant but didn't hurt his limbs.  he came my way so i ducked out and popped two combat shotty rounds and made him drop his gun.  he took two steps towards me and realized that he wouldn't be able to hurt me so he turned to get his gun.  that's when i shot him square in the back.  easiest 100xp i have had in a while.

i also had a great moment while attacking a bandit camp.  placed a mine near their entrance and backed up to draw them out.  the mine took one of the bandit's legs off and both he and his leg flew out about 30 feet from the entrance.  his buddy took a bit of damage and fell to an assault rifle burst.  the last bandit managed a single missile which hurt, but not enough to matter. 

damn i love this game. 
9858  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Xbox Experience on: November 20, 2008, 06:37:34 PM
ok.  it is pretty cool, but i also saw the lag when backing up from a profile.  that's annoying and could lead many new people to think their system is broken.  installed and played both fallout and fable and didn't see any difference at all in fallout.  fable was pretty noticeable though, which is nice.  

i also tried the kingdom game, but i'm not sure if i like it enough to buy it.
9859  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: CoD:WaW on: November 20, 2008, 01:08:31 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on November 19, 2008, 03:38:22 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on November 19, 2008, 03:34:20 PM

Just wanted to thank the group for another fun round of COD MP last night.  It has been a while since I last really enjoyed MP gaming and it's nice to back to playing again.  Although tonight my efforts may be focused more on creating the most fabulous avatar than playing COD MP.  Fabulous

Even an avatar worthy of PeteRock's name shouldn't take you more than a few moments. smile

this is pete we're talking about.  i expect a fully unique avatar which evokes the fabulosity of peterock in ways no one imagined. 

btw, i saw you log on last night.  did you get a new 360 or did the rrod turn out to be a one time glitch?
9860  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: L4D Full Game Friday Night (360): on: November 20, 2008, 01:05:14 AM

Quote from: pingwrx on November 20, 2008, 12:49:15 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 19, 2008, 02:28:02 PM

Hoping to fire this up Friday night. Anyone gonna be on and playing it on the 360?
I will be my copy from GF shipped today will be here by friday looking forward to killing some zombies. thumbsup

as did mine, but my experience tells me that this won't be delivered until saturday.  grrr
9861  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty World at War (360) impressions on: November 20, 2008, 12:33:05 AM
holy hell.  that's insane.   
9862  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Xbox Experience on: November 20, 2008, 12:30:03 AM
this isn't a mandatory update then?  odd.  for some reason i always thought this was the required update.  of course, i also thought they would have a classic interface available too, so what do i know.

so, how big a difference is the game install vs no install?  might be worth it for fallout and some of the other big open world games.  
9863  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 20, 2008, 12:16:50 AM

Quote from: Eel Snave on November 20, 2008, 12:06:50 AM

OK, I'm going nuts trying to get to the GNR Building.  How do I get there?  I can't find a way past all the rubble surrounding the downtown area.

dunno from experience as i used the underground approach, but the guide does mention an overland passage is available, but it isn't as easy to take due to the rubble and the mutants. 
9864  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: The Official GT Trader Feedback List (updated 4/08) on: November 20, 2008, 12:11:33 AM
a big +1 to zaxxon for picking up a copy of chocobo dungeon on clearance.
9865  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 18, 2008, 09:09:01 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 18, 2008, 08:43:38 PM

Quote from: mytocles on November 18, 2008, 07:28:41 PM

Not only that - but remember, there are only 20 levels for your character to gain.  You may become over-leveled with all that cross-country tripping.  Just a thought...  icon_confused

Interesting thought..other than when I first came out of the vault, I haven't had any real problems with the battles- I guess it's because I always target the head and have high perception....I wonder if you can 'over level' or whether your SPECIAL attributes determine how easy or hard the game is...not that the two aren't related of course.

i do most of my dc travel above ground.  despite being a mass of wreckage, you can manage it.  it's just more likely to be super mutant battles instead of mutated animals/ghouls.  but you can still sneak around a good deal too.  i went overland all the way to rivet city for instance.
9866  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Chocobo Dungeon review/impression thread. on: November 17, 2008, 11:54:11 PM
9867  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Lots of Atlus RPGs on sale for $20 at Amazon on: November 17, 2008, 09:38:58 PM
damn.  some of those are very good deals right now. 
9868  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: CoD:WaW on: November 17, 2008, 09:37:23 PM
damn dude, that sucks. 

when i hopped on sat night, i saw maybe 4 or 5 people, and nobody playing cod. 

i need the practice anyhow.  my short stint in mp was mostly just me learning the ropes again.  my ratio was below .50 the whole time, but it didn't get much time due to fallout though.
9869  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World War Z Movie on: November 17, 2008, 09:34:51 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on November 17, 2008, 09:33:04 PM

Coming in paperback June 2, 2009.  Hopefully it doesn't come too late....

FN sweet.  thank you zombie jesus. 
9870  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Stardock to continue Master of Orion and Star Control? on: November 17, 2008, 08:52:14 PM
i would buy up a stardock sequel to star con 2 in a hearbeat, even if i never got the huge blocks of time to devote to it like i did sc2. 

moo is a perfect fit, even if it takes away from gc's fanbase.
9871  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: CoD:WaW on: November 17, 2008, 08:48:15 PM
saturday night.  PST, so i may have missed the east-coasters.  either that or i don't have a large list of people who were playing it.  i played a few hours of sp instead, so no biggie. 
9872  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: CoD:WaW on: November 17, 2008, 08:06:36 PM
eh, when i logged in to play this everybody was already in gow2.  and only a handful too.  maybe i'll get better luck finding you guys next time. 
9873  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: November 17, 2008, 07:57:09 PM
top of my gamefly queue with a game sent back friday to hopefully get this one by end of week.  of course, i haven't had a chance to play the demo and nobody was on it during the weekend, so i may need to try it out with random players. 
9874  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: the New Star Trek Crew! on: November 17, 2008, 07:49:31 PM
annoyed that the theater i saw QoS at did not have this trailer.  this looks interesting, but i bet it kicked ass on the big screen.
9875  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New DVD/BD releases 11/18: The Tropical Edition on: November 17, 2008, 06:55:34 PM
yup, but you need to check with the studio's site to see which device is supported. 

i would like to get both tropic thunder and wall e on blu ray, but i am waiting for a decent sale and/or xmas present.  need to leave something for people to get me.   icon_wink
9876  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (11/17) on: November 17, 2008, 06:28:46 PM
nothing, but i am trying to get L4D on the 360 through gamefly. 

time to hit the recent additions to the backlog...
9877  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Chocobo Dungeon review/impression thread. on: November 17, 2008, 02:21:02 AM
got a deal zaxxon.  pm me your paypal.  big thanks.

i played a very scant amount of this a few months ago, but for that kind of money, i can wait a bit to get back to it.
9878  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Bond movie trailer rules on: November 17, 2008, 01:56:47 AM
agreed on most accounts.  not as strong as CR by a pretty wide margin.  nobody in this film felt threatening, even the bad guy feels like a henchmen to a bigger bad guy.  sure, that seems to be the direction now, and the big meeting scene was well done and paints a good picture of future movies, it didn't do much for this one. 

the car scene was ok, but it felt cut in half. 

i liked it ok, but i really want a good follow up now. 
9879  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Left 4 Dead - Fry's sale on: November 15, 2008, 12:41:56 AM
360 - 49.99
PC  - 39.99
available wednesday, by noon. 

also noted, with dvd/bd prices
wall-e $15/25
tropic thunder $15/27
9880  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Good post-apocalyptic music? on: November 14, 2008, 11:41:26 PM

Quote from: Big Jake on November 14, 2008, 05:57:55 AM

Dude, one title absolutely heads up the list:

Earth Died Screaming by Tom Waits

After that, it becomes a question of thematic songs for the End of the World, or musically fit songs that properly convey post-apocalyptic asthetic?

London Calling - The Clash (thematic and musically fit)
Corona Radiata, Ripe (with Decay) or  Me, I'm Not (the 14 min long version) - NIN (for musically fit, thought not thematically fit)
The Day The World went away - NIN (thematic)
After the Gold Rush - Neil Young (Thematically & Musically fit?) - and arguably the #2 to Earth Died screaming

both thematically and musically i guess.  my list was a mix of that as well.  

i have listened to all of the suggestions so far.  good choices all around.  some very dystopian sounding pieces, a number of heavier 'moment of destruction' songs and a few somber "hymn for the dead' style songs.  thank you everyone.  
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