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9841  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Left 4 Dead - Fry's sale on: November 15, 2008, 12:41:56 AM
360 - 49.99
PC  - 39.99
available wednesday, by noon. 

also noted, with dvd/bd prices
wall-e $15/25
tropic thunder $15/27
9842  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Good post-apocalyptic music? on: November 14, 2008, 11:41:26 PM

Quote from: Big Jake on November 14, 2008, 05:57:55 AM

Dude, one title absolutely heads up the list:

Earth Died Screaming by Tom Waits

After that, it becomes a question of thematic songs for the End of the World, or musically fit songs that properly convey post-apocalyptic asthetic?

London Calling - The Clash (thematic and musically fit)
Corona Radiata, Ripe (with Decay) or  Me, I'm Not (the 14 min long version) - NIN (for musically fit, thought not thematically fit)
The Day The World went away - NIN (thematic)
After the Gold Rush - Neil Young (Thematically & Musically fit?) - and arguably the #2 to Earth Died screaming

both thematically and musically i guess.  my list was a mix of that as well.  

i have listened to all of the suggestions so far.  good choices all around.  some very dystopian sounding pieces, a number of heavier 'moment of destruction' songs and a few somber "hymn for the dead' style songs.  thank you everyone.  
9843  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Watchmen Trailer on: November 14, 2008, 09:41:38 PM

Quote from: The Grue on November 14, 2008, 08:56:40 PM

Love the Muse song they use in the trailer.  I have never read Watchmen, but I bought it recently at an airport bookstore after seeing someone else on another flight I was on reading it.  Haven't finished it, but enjoying it so far.

i also love the song used in the intro part with rorshach talking. 

muse - take a bow is the song later on and a great fit. 

R's voice is a pretty good match for the character too.  very strained and gritty.

this is looking good.
9844  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Bond movie trailer rules on: November 14, 2008, 08:42:23 PM

Quote from: farley2k on November 14, 2008, 08:03:22 PM

Quote from: Starshifter on November 14, 2008, 06:31:29 PM

I just hate this current trend in movies having to be darker, grittier and depressing in order to be praised. 

It seems to be the trend but I hope it ends soon.  A darker Bond, a darker Batman, a darker Battlestar Galactica, a darker Mickey Mouse (wait that is still in the planning stages).  It seems like darkness/violence is all that young people can relate to.  The biggest shows - non-repeats have been things like the Sopranos, the Shield, Deadwood, etc.  Dark sells right now.

the new star trek has been mentioned as an anti dark film, so that could be a good boost. 

of course, we all know how the harry potter films have progressed, but that's more to the way jk rowling took the series, but yeah, people are going for more grittier films than they used to. 

as long as they still make the fun ones, then i won't complain too much though.  i have wide tastes when it comes to movies and i don't favor one at the expense of the other. 

and personally, i really liked CR.  who says that bond should be as campy now as it was then?  i just wanted a great movie about james bond, and they did that.
9845  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Wife lost her job, disability woes, unemployment - I need your advice. on: November 14, 2008, 08:19:45 PM
damn sorry to hear about this ron.  as said earlier, gt is the community it is because of you (and your staff, i'm not forgetting you either) and knowing that you are facing these kinds of problems is sad. 

i would be very angry if the company i worked for pushed me out just because of a disability.  hell, they have had a less than good medical insurance rating due to a former employee who had cancer, and i know they didn't cut her loose. 

definitely look for a lawyer/help group to consult with.  this sounds like a cop out by the company.

you didn't say, but what about the drivers from the other car accidents?  if she wasn't at fault, it should be possible to file a claim against them for damages.  i just hope you didn't already settle out of court on those accidents or you may have waived your right to file claims. 
9846  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: October NPD numbers on: November 14, 2008, 07:35:43 PM
they really should put the release date in there, not just month.  comparing 4 days of october for fallout vs 11 for fable really doesn't make a fair comparison, but i am really happy fable sold that many already though.  

790k for 11 days  71.8k per day
375k for 4 days 93.75k per day, just this version alone.  (in light of kathode's comments, i really wonder why they didn't add all versions to this chart)

saints row did badly though
270k over 18 days 15k per day, if you take a reasonable estimate of 190k for the ps3, that number only jumps up to 25.5k per day with a ~500k total units sold, and i am being optimistic.  is 500k enough for a sequel?  unknown, but how many units of sr1 were sold?  
dead space's #s may not be enough to keep it afloat.  a victim of timing or interest?

of course, this being the monster season of 2008, i expect most of these numbers to stay high enough into 2009 as people get around to picking up games they missed.

9847  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama's Cabinet on: November 14, 2008, 07:07:38 PM
up next, clinton in as sec of state, and what's this, mccain?

this could be an interesting 4 years people.
9848  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Gamestop - trade in 2 games, get new release for 19.99 on: November 14, 2008, 06:56:25 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on November 14, 2008, 04:33:44 PM

Sorry you guys don't like it.  The value for effort I got on the two titles I traded in was more than worth it.  Maybe someone else here will feel the same way.

no need to apologize leo.  i appreciate the work you put into posting this, and i do see the value if you have some of the older games on the list.  my beef is with gs and their handling of trade values for the more recent games.  imho, both of the ones i listed (and several more if you look) should be given a higher value than the older ones on the list.  it annoys me as i usually like to keep games around for a bit after playing them in case i want to replay again, and when or if i sell them, i hate having to cut my throat to sell it.  if i was going to sell gta 4, i would not be happy getting only 20 bucks for it, especially considering it hasn't dropped price yet.  same with any of the other games i have which still demand full retail price now.   once they have dropped 20 bucks or hit budget status though, i don't consider the drop in trade value that bad as the drop in used value is much easier to accept from my pov and if i bought it at 60 then it's my own fault for not selling it sooner. 

gs annoys me as two of these games would resell there for 110 total, plus the 20 you gave them for a new game means they are making 70 bucks per transaction once those games sell. 

note, i don't hate gs all around, and i have bought used games there before, but it was always due to some special of theirs (3 games for the price of 2) and never a recently released one.  i have also taken advantage of pre orders if it was a good offer or a game in high demand.
9849  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Watchmen: the end is nigh on: November 14, 2008, 06:33:54 PM
if the movie wasn't enticing enough for hardcore fanboy's (and alan moore) to hate on, then this should put them over the top.  apparently, a game is being made which takes place ~10 years before the events of the book and features rorschach and nite owl fighting crime.  there's a handful of pictures in the current issue of egm which look ok enough and i am reminded of the warriors, both by the look of the enemies and the general style of the environments shown.

in it's favor are a coop campaign and different fighting styles with both heroes.  R is weaker, but a more vicious fighter who will use any weapon he finds; nite owl relies mostly on his strength and gadgets (like batman, i would guess.)  it also has a story penned by Len Wein, who worked with moore and gibbons on the novel.  it also happens to be a downloadable episodic game ala penny arcade's, with an expected 12 chapters (nice touch, that) for both the major systems.

i just finished re-reading the novel a while back and i have to wonder:  how this could tie into the canon without either revealing the plot of the first one, or having a story so fleshed out that it's absence in the novel stands out.  i really hope they bring in the rest of the characters though, as it would be pretty cool to see the world fleshed out. 
9850  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Shaun White Snowboarding? on: November 14, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
wow.  either they really hate snowboarding games in general, or this one missed the trail completely. 

different reviewer, but amped 2 got a 7,

this part pretty much kills it for me though.

Ubisoft Montreal also saw fit to include a rubbish snowball-throwing mechanic, which works by letting you press B to instantly snatch a snowball from the ground, then hold B to aim it at your nearest opponent and release the button to fling it. Anyone who gets hit by a snowball instantly collapses face-first into the ground. Think of an un-aimed snowball as a tiny green shell (though capable of rapid fire) and an aimed snowball as a red shell. And yes, that means that in first place, the AI pelts you with what might as well be rocks at all times.

i hate that mechanic even worse than the rubber banding ai racers.  it's a cheap mechanic and always leaves me pissed off i lost a race rather than encouraged to see what i did wrong. 
9851  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: L4D Demo Friday Night: on: November 14, 2008, 12:50:06 AM
as i don't think cod will be arriving in time for friday's fun, if you see me online, send me an invite.  i might be on later in the night though.
9852  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Gamestop - trade in 2 games, get new release for 19.99 on: November 14, 2008, 12:43:29 AM

Quote from: Jeff Jones on November 13, 2008, 09:12:01 PM

Looks to me like they're giving you $40 trade in value on a limited list of new to relatively new games. $20 each. Seems to me to be a lukewarm deal at best. I could be wrong, what do new'ish games typically trade in for there? (I hate GS too and rarely if ever go there).

especially the more recent ones.  mercs 2?  saints row 2?  only $20?  F that.  no way is that a good deal when they will just slap a 54.99 sticker on it. 
9853  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Good post-apocalyptic music? on: November 14, 2008, 12:27:12 AM
i'm looking for music which fits the theme of an end of the world movie/game.  i have found that fallout 3's music is a great fit for that game in every way, and i am looking for other non game pieces in the same mold.

for instance.

In the house in a heartbeat - 28 days later - this evokes the desperation of the zombie movie
Pink Floyd -High Hopes  haunting intro, very somber song.  growing up, i pictured this song to a scene of b052's taking off with a load of nukes for russia. 
Muse - Time is running out the video makes this obvious, but it has that modern rock 'screaming at the end of the world' feeling.
Metallica - The Memory Remains - i really liked the vibe from the last part of this song, both the guitar and the vocal by marianne faithfull.  damn haunting and i always associate this song with the matrix. 

9854  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: See you all in 6-7 months!!! on: November 13, 2008, 10:22:05 PM
good luck on your second round.  go kick ass, even if it is with the noob tube. 

Quote from: USMC Kato on November 12, 2008, 04:07:45 AM

Keep me on your friends list, I'll be back. 

will do man.  we'll keep your spot open until you get back. 
9855  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Bond movie trailer rules on: November 13, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
i have a very good feeling i'll be feeling very bad tomorrow.  i may even need to call in sick.  :cough
9856  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Halo 3 Expansion? on: November 13, 2008, 06:38:27 PM
3-5 hours?!  i guess you can kiss most of our hopes goodbye.  expansion pack all the way.
9857  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Spoiler Tags No Longer Working on: November 13, 2008, 06:27:46 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on November 13, 2008, 06:24:45 PM


c'mon baby, lick my battery.
9858  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: LF: Spore for PC; Fable: Lost Chapters for PC or Xbox and Fable II on: November 13, 2008, 06:26:11 PM
how's $30 shipped for spore?  only one activation used
9859  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Spoiler Tags No Longer Working on: November 13, 2008, 06:23:51 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on November 13, 2008, 06:20:46 PM

Quote from: Caine on November 13, 2008, 06:19:37 PM

Quote from: Razgon on November 13, 2008, 06:16:44 PM

Quote from: Caine on November 13, 2008, 06:13:47 PM

damn though.  i hope that feature comes back soon.

a reminder to us all... just how dependant we have become on the machines keeping our secrets...


perhaps we could post spoilers in 128 bit hashes instead?  slywink

Screw that, ig-pay atin-lay.

hey, i resent that.  i am not latin.  :Grrrrr
9860  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Spoiler Tags No Longer Working on: November 13, 2008, 06:19:37 PM

Quote from: Razgon on November 13, 2008, 06:16:44 PM

Quote from: Caine on November 13, 2008, 06:13:47 PM

damn though.  i hope that feature comes back soon.

a reminder to us all... just how dependant we have become on the machines keeping our secrets...


perhaps we could post spoilers in 128 bit hashes instead?  slywink
9861  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Spoiler Tags No Longer Working on: November 13, 2008, 06:13:47 PM
just a point to you then mytocles.  avoid reading any of the fallout impressions thread.  there's definitely some things in there you don't want to read right away.

damn though.  i hope that feature comes back soon.
9862  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: CoD:WaW on: November 13, 2008, 01:22:07 AM
i will be in with this one when i get my copy.  going to go for the TRU deal though, as i am already way past my game list. 

woot!  just got confirmation that gamefly is sending this one out to me.  my wallet thanks you, patron saint of cheap ass gaming.

in without getting kicked out of the house.  yay me!
9863  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty World at War (360) impressions on: November 13, 2008, 01:15:09 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on November 13, 2008, 12:56:09 AM

I hate you guys and the forum effect.

+1.  i am leaving early to stop at tru on the way home and see if they have it early.

woot!  just got confirmation that gamefly is sending this one out to me.  my wallet thanks you, patron saint of cheap ass gaming.

in without getting kicked out of the house.  yay me!
9864  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: November 12, 2008, 11:51:26 PM

Quote from: Moliere on November 12, 2008, 11:04:29 PM

that's so wrong.  biggrin 
9865  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Franken/Coleman - predictions? on: November 12, 2008, 10:42:33 PM

Quote from: Scuzz on November 12, 2008, 04:28:37 PM

What is with Minnesota? A wrestler for Governor and now comedian as Senator.

I mean here in California we just have Austrian Body Building/Actor Governors and past Senators who were actors.

No damn comedians.

Carrottop in '12!!!!
9866  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: COD5 Perks question on: November 12, 2008, 10:28:23 PM
i never got high enough to see those perks, but i would have used the monkey perk.  sounds like great fun.
9867  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 12, 2008, 10:27:04 PM

Quote from: mytocles on November 12, 2008, 10:04:25 PM

Quote from: JayDee on November 11, 2008, 05:00:22 PM

The game finally "clicked" with me last night and now I'm totally in love with it. I cleared out the Super Duper Mart which was a great moment in my gaming career. I thought I had the whole thing cleared out but the minute I went into the pharmacy and the Raider used the intercom, it was definitely a creepy moment. Also, sneaking along in complete silence, only to inadvertantly bump into a shopping cart made me jump a bunch of times. Those things are so loud!.

I lolled hard when I did that last night, because I remembered reading this post, but wasn't thinking about it until the same thing happened to me.  I about jumped out of my socks!  icon_eek

This game really has it's creepy moments, full of suspense and breath-holding creeping around corners, etc.  I played all night last night - this is exactly the game I need right now; the previous 3 games I played were FFXII, Infinite Undiscovery, and Fable 2.  It was time for some mutants and FO3 is not disappointing, at all.  nod

As for arranging your houses in game, that is what my friends and I did with Morrowind (XBox)... we had a long, friendly competition as to who decorated their stronghold the best.  One favorite thing we did (I didn't discover this, unfortunately, but it was brilliant!) was to place an unlit torch, say on a chair at a kitchen table.  Then place another one on that, then a skull on top of the 2nd one.  You could then remove the first two torches and have the skull floating in space at the dinner table. Another decorating idea was to make rooms into shrines... candles, skulls, backlighting, etc.  Good times, good times!  icon_biggrin

i've been stacking some of my duplicate weapons on the shelf and put my trusty baseball bat, glove, and ball from the vault on the comfy chair.  of course, i also tend to keep my food items in the fridge, my books in the filing cabinet, and my powered armor on the desk.  not functional, but it makes the area look different from the standard.
9868  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: Dead Space PC F/S-Price Lowered on: November 12, 2008, 10:23:49 PM
depends on the game ridah.  even though it's true you can't trade them in, it's not like you couldn't ebay the thing. 

tbh, although i really want to play dead space, i don't feel compelled to buy something now when i won't even install it until spring, even considering how little the price drop should be in 4 months.  by that time, i may have already rented it for the 360 anyways.
9869  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: the New Star Trek Crew! on: November 12, 2008, 07:59:51 PM
of course not.  all ships make sounds in space.  duh. :rollseyes

the kelvin looks cool too.  i am looking forward to this.
9870  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 Impressions PC Edition on: November 12, 2008, 02:08:17 AM
agreed there.  outside ambient 'music' always lets me be somewhat calm and i can let my guard down a bit.  as soon as i step inside though, i just get wigged out with the creepy music.  that's before anything even sees me. 

i really like the combat music too. 
9871  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: The Official GT Trader Feedback List (updated 4/08) on: November 11, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
+1 to farscry for fast payment.
9872  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: No Bailout for GM please. Let em die. on: November 11, 2008, 07:12:46 PM
if it's any consolation, i had the same thought KD.  i really hate for a company to go whining to the gov't when it gets bad, but what can you do?  let em die and take how many thousands of jobs with them?  i was in that boat with boeing and it sucks knowing that your job is just another red mark on the company's books and that neither you nor your co-workers livelihood means anything to them.  morale goes into the can and everyone is so concentrated on the layoff instead of how to make the best product. 

if gm fails, look to the other companies in similar situations to follow.  hell, even toyota is doing poorly compared to previous years and they were always looked at as very solid.

good luck to anyone who works at gm and may the ceo's take the blame and lose out on bonuses. 
9873  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I Love This: the stick Enters the Toy Hall of Fame on: November 11, 2008, 06:41:52 PM
in honor of the stick's momentous award, i ask of you all, what would be your favorite toy that isn't a toy?

we used to use a blue tarp for sliding down snowy hills in winter
9874  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Veteran's Day on: November 11, 2008, 06:37:37 PM
a big thank you to all of you who have served, are serving, or will be serving.  without your commitment, none of this would be possible. 
9875  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: 48 HR XBOX LIVE Code on: November 11, 2008, 01:34:44 AM
i'll pm it to you tomorrow.
9876  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Circuit City, scavenging the going out of biz sales (was: Fatal Short Circuit) on: November 11, 2008, 01:33:28 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 10, 2008, 11:08:30 PM

So does this mean they're done?

I have a 10.00 gift card from there... can I still spend it?

i wouldn't wait much longer.  estimates are not good for cc to remain viable beyond the end of the year.  i would use it before they decide to stop honoring them. 
9877  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty World at War (360) impressions on: November 11, 2008, 01:14:13 AM

Quote from: USMC Kato on November 11, 2008, 12:49:04 AM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 11, 2008, 12:27:34 AM

Quick MP impressions:

Game is more of the same from COD4.  If you've played the beta, you know what to expect.  One especially neat new map is in a bombed out asylum: lots of tight corridors with some open spaces to boot.

Downside: Only MP game modes available before level 14 are Free For All and Team Deathmatch.  Hardcore is not available until level 18.

WTF? I know it can be fast and easy to level up but what is the reason behind this?

that seems pretty odd.  what about through parties?  
9878  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty World at War (360) impressions on: November 10, 2008, 11:59:07 PM

Quote from: Starshifter on November 10, 2008, 10:41:21 PM

Why oh why did I just come home with this game?

I need help.

oh good, you can give us impressions then.  biggrin

i really wonder about the quality of the game when reviews are as locked down as this one is.  no reviews makes me nervous, despite the TRU deal.
9879  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 Impressions PC Edition on: November 10, 2008, 09:11:57 PM

Quote from: Moliere on November 10, 2008, 09:09:33 PM

Quote from: Jag on November 10, 2008, 08:30:53 PM

Also are clipboards worth anything? Like Financial Clipboard, etc.

They can be used as ammo for the Rock-It Launcher. One of the issues I've always had with the Rock-It Launcher (besides the constant noise) is having to give up weight in your inventory for ammo. So far Pre-War Money is the only item I've found that can be used as ammo and that also doesn't weigh anything. I know you can sell it for a decent return at a vendor, but seriously folks you don't need the caps that bad if you want to play with the Rock-It Launcher. Making money is easy in this game. Just start stocking up on Pre-War Money as you're playing until you build the Launcher.

Do the Garden Gnomes have any extra significance or value?

i thought so at first, but i think it's more of a free form idea to collect them all and put em in your house.  i haven't bothered to keep any of them though, even the pristine ones.  would make a funny projectile though, i guess.  the idea that you can hurt someone with a dollar bill rolled up is pretty odd though.
9880  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 Impressions PC Edition on: November 10, 2008, 08:48:32 PM
and the 'librarian' is very interested in getting her hands on them.  i have made over 2 grand already in much less time than it took me to earn it the old fashioned way.

i had almost 1900 before, so now i can afford to get the house upgrades and a theme myself.  

Quote from: Tokek on November 10, 2008, 08:15:53 PM

Found something cool this weekend when I was playing.  Was exploring and found a ledge with a motorcycle parked near it.  There's a box half buried by the ledge and it contains a recording and a chinese gun.  Apparently, someone committed suicide there and left the note, bike and the gun for his brother (I think it was his brother) and when I looked down, I saw the blood splatter and his skeleton.

Pretty nice touch.

earlier i posted that nathaniel had died of apparently buggy causes ala walter and the other accident prone megaton residents.  last night i ran into his wife and now i'm not so sure.  she was sad about his passing.  she didn't mention his pockets being looted though, so i think i'm in the clear.  paranoid icon_twisted
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