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7601  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Direct2Drives 24 days of X-Mas: Day 10 Battlefield 2 Complete $14.95(daily sale) on: December 11, 2009, 09:02:17 PM

Quote from: Moliere on December 11, 2009, 06:27:09 PM

Dragon Age: Origins for $39.95 doesn't seem like that big of a deal.

no, it isn't, unless it's the CE.  i would have been on the fence for that. 

what's next in the ornament of prophecy?
7602  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Can a PS3 Slim use PS2 power and a/v cable? on: December 11, 2009, 08:56:29 PM
if they are both just cables and not adapters, you *should* be fine.  cables are providing the same power from the outlet, after all.  check the input voltage specs just to be safe.  the av cables shouldn't be a problem though.  i've been using the same 3rd party component cables from my ps2 since i got the ps3. 

7603  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: First trailer for Pixeljunk 1-4 (Shooter) on: December 11, 2009, 06:07:49 PM
odd that nobody has mentioned this since it hit psn yesterday.

had enough time to play through the first 2 levels of about 5 stages each. (i could be off).  most of them are several screens in width/height and have a number of people to pick up, enemies to shoot and environmental hazards to avoid/use.  graphic style is clean and vibrant and the control scheme is not bogged down with complex commands. 

i was a little bit put off by how the ship flies vs. how i expected it to based on similar games, but it doesn't take long to get the hang of it at all.  basically, i thought it would be like many gravity based shooters where you have to balance your fuel usage and amount of thrust and which direction your guns were pointing.  psn's other recent gravity based shooter is a perfect example of that control methodology.  here, they stuck with a simpler base for movement.  left stick moves you in that direction, right stick rotates your craft, so you can easily shoot at the ground while moving up.  gravity effects are light and that extends to inertia on your ship as well. 

so far, it sounds pretty basic.  you fly around, shoot enemies and pick up colonists, gems and the remnants of your enemies.  once you get to the environment and how to interact with it, things get more interesting.  so far, i have encountered lava and water which cools it into rock which you can shoot.  it's not instant, so newly cooled rock can be melted by the lava but larger chunks of rock will hold.  add in a few tricks like water filled grenades you drop or shoot, tetherable sponges witch soak up either substance, enemies that soot lava at you, pickups like heat shields and a rocket attack which raises your ships temperature.  i'm sure there is more to come and the 2nd level i played was a bit more complex than the first.  you do get a small branching level choice after the first one too. 

and it's remote playable on a psp.  sweet.
7604  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: 48 Hour Madness: White Friday on: December 11, 2009, 04:59:18 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 11, 2009, 03:14:12 PM

Ooh, I'm in for Rise of the Argonauts at $9.90.  I've heard enough good about the story to make it sound worth $10.00. 

yeah, that sounds just about perfect for me too, price wise. 
7605  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Mel Brooks movies on: December 11, 2009, 03:22:18 PM
Yesterday, one of my coworkers and I were explaining the plot of the producers to someone as an example of the kind of movies Mel was famous for.  He didn't know what 'Springtime for Hitler' even was until yesterday.
7606  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 'Call of Pripyat' on: December 11, 2009, 08:34:15 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 10, 2009, 05:08:35 PM

looks like February 2010 is the release month, but they aren't giving a date.  looks like Q1 is turning into the new Q4 for releases  icon_lol

no kidding ck. feb/march '10 is going to be big. this, avp, bioshock, sc conviction, yakuza 3, mafia 2. 

it's going to be another rough month for the 'ol wallet
7607  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: what's your Downloadable GOTY? on: December 11, 2009, 06:32:10 AM
if you were one of the hold outs for shadow complex, it's in the rumor mill that it will be on sale this month for 800 points.  maw is also set to be 400.  just an fyi
7608  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I guess Thirteenloodfumble isn't that bad after all on: December 11, 2009, 06:31:00 AM
yeah, i read this earlier as well.  it's nuts to consider how much time that is and how specific she plays games just for points. 

hell, i had to push myself to get the last 60 points in asscreed2, and i enjoyed that game.  those last few hours were pretty monotonous and unrewarding and i could not fathom what this woman has put herself through. 
7609  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Impulse weekend sales on: December 11, 2009, 06:22:59 AM
they put some of their bundles on sale this weekend:

AI War: Fleet Command / Gratuitous Space Battles - $40
Abe's Oddysee and Abe's Exoddus - $5
some of the deals
Time of Shadows - $15
Dawn of Magic 2 -$15
Dawn of Discovery[/url - $35
[url=]Cities XL
- $20

they are also offering 10% off Divinity 2 - $45  release 1/5/10

7610  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: the New Star Trek- now with impressions and spoilers! on: December 08, 2009, 10:24:21 PM
wife and i finally watched this last night.  i am kind of let down even though i enjoyed it.  on one hand, they really nailed the special effects and the look of everything.  it all felt like what a modern star trek should look like.  the action scenes were well done and a great show piece for an action movie.  i did appreciate that they managed to give all the supporting cast moments on screen, even though chekov's scene came off forced.  Bones' intro was the best of them all.  he nailed the attitude and behavior much better than i thought possible.  scotty's was pretty good too, even though a bit over the top. 

i was hoping for a better plot and story though.
Spoiler for Hiden:
the timeline twist does explain how they will diverge from TOS and the rest, and i don't fault them for doing that.  i do think they could have restarted it all without tie-ing it to the other treks and just as good though.  it reminds me too much of ST:NG Generations and kirk's role in it.  they try to clean up the plot with a 5 minute exposition and it comes off as just a reason to use the mind meld.  kirk vs spock was also an odd scene and same with the stranding.  it wasn't a move i felt spock would make.  maybe that's more in line with his younger attitudes, so i can accept that.

i also thought the use of lens flare was abused a bit.  every time the camera swept past a light source, it felt like a 14 year old's attempt at film making.  i remember a scene where it was so bad, i thought they were doing a fade out. 

i have hopes the sequels will be better now that they've gotten the origin out of the way.  if they can pull off their own 'dark knight', then i will be very happy.  but this one has more in common with batman begins; overall pretty good, nothing significantly bad, but definitely a less refined movie. 
7611  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Direct2Drives 24 days of X-Mas: Day 8 Mercenaries 2 $4.95 (daily sale) on: December 08, 2009, 08:33:25 PM
was mercs on the pc a good port or did it get ported by the B team?  i would hope for a mod scene, but my hunches say no.
7612  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] ryu ga gotoku (yakuza) 3 impressions on: December 08, 2009, 06:59:19 PM
yeah, it will have some stiff competition with bioshock 2 hitting just before, and if splinter cell isn't a train wreck either. 

i also think this won't be given the ad dollars to make a noticeable impression on people not familiar with the series, so in other words, 80% of the ps3 game buying public. 
7613  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: It's that time again! What's Your Game of the Year 2009 on: December 08, 2009, 06:55:52 PM
so far, i have several candidates for goty

batman: aa - just about perfect in every way.  best game based on a comic book hero
uncharted 2 - pitch perfect sp campaign through the first 90% or so, but loses ground at the end.
mw2 - sp has some great moments, even though it's a bit derivative of the first.  mp is top of it's class
infamous - like this one far more than i did prototype due to the latter's insistence on lame-ass timed super blocking boss battle

unplayed contenders
dragon age - could be great, but i have only got a few hours in.

honorable mentions
borderlands - great all around, but not quite goty material imho.  
ghostbusters - while it's the perfect example of how to do a movie franchise game right, it doesn't push into the top honors.
red faction guerrilla - most fun i've had all year.  
7614  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: what's your Downloadable GOTY? on: December 08, 2009, 06:43:49 PM

Quote from: DamageInc on December 08, 2009, 06:30:34 PM

Shadow Complex, but the Lost and the Damned add-on for GTA 4 was a very close second
(I'm not sure if DLC is included in the category or not)

good call.  i had forgotten about TLaD. 

Quote from: WinoMcCougarstein on December 08, 2009, 06:07:34 PM

With all the mentions of Flower I'd like to try it.  Is there a demo on PSN?

i don't think there is, as i never tried it before i bought it.  i would have recommended it as a blind purchase a few days ago as it was just on sale for $5
7615  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] ryu ga gotoku (yakuza) 3 impressions on: December 08, 2009, 06:41:45 PM
after many delays and much speculation, it's been announced that they will be bringing it stateside and to europe in march '10.


looking forward to it
7616  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Direct2Drives 24 days of X-Mas: Day 7 LotR Conquest $9.95 (daily sale) on: December 08, 2009, 06:07:32 PM
i was very close to pulling the trigger on majesty 2 as well but decided it would probably just sit in my perpetual backlog.  at least with the DL services, you can have them keep the 'shelf' organized for you and not worry about misplacing it when you get the urge to try something.

really hoping we get some good stuff after mercs. 
7617  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / what's your Downloadable GOTY? on: December 08, 2009, 01:38:26 AM
this year has been pretty good for xbla/psn/wii releases and i have had as much fun with some of them as i did their big brother's on disc.

shadow complex ranks as my top contender so far, but the race for goty is pretty contentious and won't be over for a few weeks.

braid, flower, bf1943, peggle, bionic commando rearmed, 'splosion man, plus we still have pixeljunk shooter and alien breed coming.

and those were just the ones i played and could remember.  (no wii, so no 1st hand experience, sorry)

so, what's your top download game of the year?
7618  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alien Breed coming to XBLA! on: December 08, 2009, 01:24:14 AM
Alien Swarm, a UT 2k4 (and maybe ue3, unsure) mod with 4 person co-op.  if not a remake then, it pulls from the standards of the genre, dating back to what, Aliens? 

either way, i would have loved to have 4 person co-op here, but 2 person will suffice. 

if they can nail this, it will make the Downloadable goty list a bit longer.
7619  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: GOG Weekend Sale: Rage games 25% off on: December 07, 2009, 11:46:42 PM

Quote from: kronovan on December 07, 2009, 07:20:07 PM

Quote from: Caine on December 07, 2009, 07:09:08 PM

i wouldn't expect any problems running it on a recent machine.  it's pretty old ( i think i ran it on a machine two generations ago.  it is 8 years old in any case, so as long as your laptop can run 3d games and has some video memory, you should be good. laptop has a Pentium 1.4 Ghz w/768 MB Ram. It has a 3d Video card with 64 MB, but...

"NO Pixel Shader..."
"NO Hardware T&L"
"NO Vertex Shader..."

Those words are direct from the mouth of Can-You-Run-It. icon_confused Unfortunately that site doesn't have a listing for Hostile Waters.

well, the requirements for it were an 8mb video card, and that seems about what i remember.  the cpu is certainly more than the minimum by a generation or two and the system ram is well above the minimum.   as for the warnings you got, those are features introduced after the game did, so you shouldn't be missing anything.  pretty sure the card i ran it on was a geforce 2. 

PII 266 or equivalent. RAM: 64 MB Video Memory: 8 MB Hard Drive Space: 620 MB
7620  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: GOG Weekend Sale: Rage games 25% off on: December 07, 2009, 07:09:08 PM
i wouldn't expect any problems running it on a recent machine.  it's pretty old ( i think i ran it on a machine two generations ago.  it is 8 years old in any case, so as long as your laptop can run 3d games and has some video memory, you should be good.

i really wish they would come up with a remake of this. 
7621  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Router woes on: December 07, 2009, 06:22:50 PM

Quote from: ravenvii on December 07, 2009, 06:33:53 AM

From my experience, the WRT54G are awesome routers hindered by horrendous software.

You should put a different one in - like Tomato or DD-WRT.

+ to this, but take note of the model you have.  i know they purposely nerfed the ability to mod with some versions of the wrt.  i picked one up from a trade here and had some success with it.  sadly, it only seemed to work for about a week before it stopped providing dns resolution, so i reverted back to a different router. 

i then compounded the problem by mucking about with it a while ago and got it to stop responding completely.  it's settings are screwed up and make it the most secure router in existence, aka unable to be reached by any means over the network.  i need to read up on it and refresh it's firmware.
7622  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alien Breed coming to XBLA! on: December 07, 2009, 06:17:16 PM
only 2 player?  i was really hoping they would have made it 4 person, so i could get a good "alien swarm" buzz from it.  (yeah, i know AS is pretty much a remake, but still, 4 person top down aliens shooter?  awesome)

this will be my last purchase of the year. 
7623  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox Live issues? on: December 07, 2009, 06:14:44 PM
i had some problems the week mw2 released and thought it was either bad live service or something isp related.  turned out that my in house wiring is going TU and if i skip the router and switch setup, directly connecting to the modem, everything is great.  it's likely an issue with the switch installed that connects all the rooms in the house, but i haven't got a replacement for it yet.  that's what i am hoping for at least.
7624  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/07) on: December 07, 2009, 06:11:50 PM

Quote from: Misguided on December 07, 2009, 01:10:06 PM

Quote from: EddieA on December 07, 2009, 07:27:29 AM

Despite the shovelware-sounding name, it looks like Puzzler World might be pretty good.  I've done some Link-a-Pix puzzles (they're similar to Picross, only with pairs of numbers you have to connect within the grid) in Games Magazine, but it would be nice to have a digital version.

FYI, there are some fantastic apps for iPhone with that type of puzzle under the name PathPix and PathPix Pro

and likely a whole lot cheaper too.  i shall take a look. 

and i am definitely IN on shooter and maybe for zelda if there are any sales and i can find a copy.
7625  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I'm going to have a son tomorrow! Update - he's here! on: December 07, 2009, 06:08:58 PM
that's awesome news, huw.  gratz to you and the whole family.  it's great your daughter is excited to see him.  i think my daughter's first reaction was pretty favorable, up until she realized how much time a newborn requires and how tired we always were as a result.  she was 2 though, so not anywhere near as old as yours is.  

great name too.  what's his real middle name?  don't worry, razgon will learn to live with it.  slywink
7626  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Steven Seagal - Lawman - Actually Entertaining on: December 07, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
i also watched the first two episodes of this and now have a level of respect for him bordering on david caruso level.  he's so over the top serious with his persona that you can't help not appreciating him for it.  and yet, i get the distinct impression that this is a guy worthy of mockingly deriding him from behind an internet persona.  you would never want to mock him in person though as i now know how good a shot he is with a firearm and up close isn't any better. 

if i keep watching this, it will completely destroy my image of him as the deadly lump who could kill you if you walked too close to the couch.
7627  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Vista Service Pack 2 on: December 07, 2009, 05:47:35 PM
you think that's bad?  we have an auto-patching system at work which works great for most updates.  well, the week sp2 was released, ie8 also hit the web.  its install came first and was the auto patch could not get it going due to a forced eula screen agreement, so when we ran this during our maintenance window, we expected a long delay due to sp2.  we checked the progress and found the stoppage.  had to manually go through 150 servers in less than two hours and get the installs going, then wait for them to finish so we would be assured everything came back up.  oh, that was fun.  my manager didn't leave that night until almost 1 and we still have servers without sp2 on them. 

to make it worse, the install time on vista's sp2 is about half that of server 2008. 
7628  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Slow/No browsing in Vista on: December 07, 2009, 05:39:36 PM
did some digging as i somewhat suspect this might be affecting a machine at home.  found this

the best part:

Before setting autotuninglevel, you have to netsh, interface, tcp and then

they went in through the netsh shell, conversely, this should also work:

netsh interface tcp SET HEURISTICS DISABLED

you can check this with:

netsh interface tcp SHOW HEURISTICS

then run:

set global autotuninglevel=disabled
7629  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Atomic sez: READ! :) on: December 07, 2009, 05:25:01 PM
i also consider myself lucky in that i've only had one psu die (coincidentally, also an antec in a sonata case) on an actively used machine, which i replaced with a much nicer one, which i was able to get on sale.  i must have researched every model i could find on the shelf before i did and it was then i learned about the significance of the rails and all that stuff you don't see on posted on cheaper models.  a buddy of mine who had the same case had his die and take out his os drive, a 72gb raptor.  this was back when those were easily running for more than 2 bucks a gig.  adding insult to injury, his died the night we went to a lan party.  hooked everything up and poof. 
7630  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Server 2003 won't respond to ping request from XP machines on: December 07, 2009, 05:17:05 PM
i am inferring from your description that the other servers are pingable from your clients, but not to the DC.  is this the case with both hostname and IP address?  that they can access their shares on the DC is a good thing, but odd that it doesn't connect during logon.  i would hazard a guess and say that the shares are mapped via IP?  if that's the case, you could add an entry to the clients' host file to get up and running until you can track this down.

other than that, i would like to get some more details.  are the clients static IP or DHCP?  if DHCP, what provides it?  check if it's assigning addresses correctly (release & renew). 
7631  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Up soundtrack (free 12/3/09) on: December 04, 2009, 12:40:58 AM

Quote from: Purge on December 03, 2009, 08:55:02 PM

Not in Canada it isn't. frown

tried an anonymous proxy?  worth a shot, otherwise you should be able to get the tracks from youtube vids.  that's how i listened to some of the tracks already.
7632  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Direct2Drives 24 days of X-Mas: Day 2: The Witcher $19.95 (updated daily!) on: December 04, 2009, 12:39:10 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 03, 2009, 09:01:01 PM

Quote from: Chaz on December 03, 2009, 06:16:54 PM

Quote from: Chaz on December 02, 2009, 07:07:24 PM

So yesterday's ornament was Witcher, and that's the game on sale today.  I suspect that the ornament is a preview of the next day's game.  Interesting.

Who has two thumbs and was right? This guy!  biggrin

Careful you don't hurt yourself patting your own back Caine  Tongue

you don't read so well, do you?  Tongue
7633  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Assassin's Creed 2 interest? (Now with Impressions - starting on pg 2) on: December 03, 2009, 05:59:14 PM
almost grabbed all of the glyphs last night, but decided to snag all the feathers wherever i went and grabbed a map.  man, some of them are pretty much only going to get noticed one time during the game and i would have never found them without help.  there's one on the back wall of a church viewpoint location way out in the middle of nowhere in tuscany that would have either taken hours to stumble upon or would have been the last one i couldn't track down in that area.

at least i was able to get a decent system to track all of them in the big towns, even if it means i have to hit every location again.  it's better than looking at all of venice at one time and knowing that you still have half of them to get.  would almost have been better to not grab any of them at all without the map, so at least you know what you got.
7634  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rogue Warrior on: December 03, 2009, 05:31:46 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 03, 2009, 03:31:05 PM

Just over two hours of solo gameplay at full price

yeah, pass.  even if they paid me to play it I'd still pass just on general principle.

if that's accurate, they deserve to fall flat on their ass in every way imaginable.  how do you not get at least 5-6 hours out of a shooter?  what, did you run out of ideas for why your mercenary needs to kill everything with a pulse within a 5 block radius of some random dilapidated building in the middle of town? 
7635  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [WTF] Accessory to piracy. on: December 03, 2009, 01:34:31 AM

Quote from: Punisher on December 02, 2009, 07:10:43 PM

Quote from: Caine on December 02, 2009, 01:11:04 AM

this is 1/2 of the reason why i tell people to lock down their wifi connection and not leave it open to anyone within range.  the other half being child porn. 

you have a damn hard fight to prove it wasn't you who downloaded the crap.  meanwhile, you get the joy of spending your own money and time in court with no financial recourse if you win. 

i'm surprised this didn't get abused earlier, actually.

I always say that if your neighbor connects to your network and does something illegal, the police go to your door. You now have to try to prove that you didn't do something and it is hard to prove a negative...

yup, especially as absence of proof is not proof of absence, merely suggestion that you destroyed the evidence.  hey looky, another thing to charge you with. 

at least it isn't as bad as it just got in spain.  their version of the riaa just got handed the keys to the kingdom; they only need suspicion that you are sharing media to lock your access, no proof needed.  same goes for websites too.  it makes the mandatory media tax they have on anything capable of infringing CR. 
7636  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Terminator: Salvation impressions on: December 03, 2009, 01:30:16 AM
you know it's bad when amazon puts the blu ray version of this on sale for $16 the week of release.  i'll put this in the dollar kiosk rental bucket.

the part about the visuals makes me wonder considering how blasted everything looked in the first 2 movies' future sequences.  what, you guys couldn't get the visual studios to get a wholly destroyed city as a cgi backdrop?
7637  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Scrubs returns tonight! on: December 03, 2009, 01:25:03 AM
that would have been awesome.  of course, the temptation to take rowdy would have been too much. 
7638  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Assassin's Creed 2 interest? (Now with Impressions - starting on pg 2) on: December 02, 2009, 11:53:55 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 02, 2009, 09:07:29 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 02, 2009, 08:56:39 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 02, 2009, 08:52:44 PM

Yeah, that's the thing- I also only found one clue.  I still don't know how I was supposed to figure it out.

What's funny is that I looked at the strategy guide and I think they had the same problem- most of the other glyph solutions offer up an explanation on how you could solve it in addition to the actual solution itself.  For the bunker they didn't even bother and just put the solution in and nothing else. 

for others who may be stumped by it here is the way to solve the Bunker without me telling you what the code is:

Spoiler for Hiden:
apparently each straight line in a symbol is how you tell what number it corresponds to.  the < = 2, the diamond within another diamond = 8 and the square with a slash in it was 5, etc etc. if there was anything curved it didn't match with anything.

Yes but that doesn't tell you which part to line the wheel up with.

Spoiler for Hiden:
  That's what confused me- You can clearly see the < in the pictures but in the others puzzles of that type there was typically another number for you to equate it to and I never could find one in that puzzle.

yeah, the damn bunker was the last one i attempted last night. i got the same hint ceekay points out but even with that in mind wasn't able to brute force the lock the way the others were. 

for the most part, the glyphs were either pretty well done (picture rotation or puzzle grouping) but those damn wheels just got annoying and the hints they give you were pretty hit or miss. 

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 02, 2009, 05:28:43 PM

Quote from: Caine on December 02, 2009, 05:24:32 PM

Spoiler for Hiden:
i still think ezio should have finished off the spaniard, and that given how many times you could have done so earlier kind of comes off as a c--ktease when you don't actually do it. 

Spoiler for Hiden:
  That would have been kind of hard to finagle.  Borgia didn't die until 1503 and had the symptoms of a fever.  They could have had Ezio poison him to fit in with the historical record but that would have been kind of anti-climactic. 

Spoiler for Hiden:
yeah, that makes sense then.  i hadn't realized he was a historic figure with a proven DOD.  still, it rankled that he lets him go twice, despite being totally capable and motivated to knife the bastage. 
7639  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Direct2Drives 24 days of X-Mas: Day 2: The Witcher $19.95 (updated daily!) on: December 02, 2009, 10:28:03 PM
i would be interested in risen and torchlight if that pans out.  maybe arma2 if the price is right, so i can sell my dvd copy.
7640  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Scrubs returns tonight! on: December 02, 2009, 05:35:03 PM
so three of the original main cast are there and the others are basically making cameos?  not sure how long this will last, kind of like the 70's show without foreman or kelso. 

scrubs was always about the characters and their quirks and interactions.  with so many gone, i think the chemistry they had is gone as well.  if the writers can pull this off, it will be a surprise.
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