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7001  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Irrational: and the new game is..... Bioshock: Infinite on: August 14, 2010, 11:00:07 PM

Quote from: KePoW on August 14, 2010, 10:46:43 PM

Quote from: Caine on August 14, 2010, 10:31:02 PM

again, if they hadn't used the term "new IP", then people wouldn't be having this reaction.  but when you hear that and know what irrational is capable of creating, you get excited because the potential for something completely different and awesome, made with the talent they have shown they possess, is bigger than "another bioshock", no matter how they changed the formula.  we still like the game itself and i look forward to it just as much as any other big name developer's new project, but that desire for something new remains. 

Everything you said in this paragraph is reasonable and I won't argue against it.  I definitely agree that Irrational shouldn't have marketed it as "new IP".

But the only other thing I'll say is why would you consider "something new" as definitely better?

i'll grant you that.  "something new" has a long history of falling down on its face.  but the possibilities for a new ip being a great game are very good from irrational.  tbh, i think the 2k overlords had as much to do with directing this project as the lead designers.  this is now a proven franchise and it's a safer bet for them. 
7002  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PAX Prime 2010 - What console games are you interested in? on: August 14, 2010, 10:37:26 PM
Fable 3
Deus Ex 3
Two Worlds 2
FO Vegas
Arcania
Homefront
Red Faction Armageddon
True Crime Hong Kong
7003  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PAX Prime 2010 - What PC games are you interested in? on: August 14, 2010, 10:34:48 PM
if only it were in viewable form:  S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2

i guess SW ToR would be sufficient for now.
7004  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Irrational: and the new game is..... Bioshock: Infinite on: August 14, 2010, 10:31:02 PM
how about we just agree that it's not entirely new?  it shares enough of the gameplay elements of bioshock that it is very hard to say that this is new IP. 

to me, it sounds like it plays like bioshock with the addition of a helper.  you have different powers here, but you still gain them in a similar fashion (the preview even calls them plasmids fwiw), use them against crazies and hulking contraptions (big daddies and sisters and the mechanical man shown in the trailer), and fight in a decaying world built by man's ambition and torn apart by man's ambition. 

hell, it's so similar to bioshock (and system shock when you think about it) that it's like id and the action-only fps:  it's their game formula. 

again, if they hadn't used the term "new IP", then people wouldn't be having this reaction.  but when you hear that and know what irrational is capable of creating, you get excited because the potential for something completely different and awesome, made with the talent they have shown they possess, is bigger than "another bioshock", no matter how they changed the formula.  we still like the game itself and i look forward to it just as much as any other big name developer's new project, but that desire for something new remains. 
7005  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII replay: on PC in high resolution on: August 14, 2010, 08:03:02 PM
Two questions:  can you copy the saves using the USB connector they sold to transfer them to the ps3 and how do the graphics compare to the ps3 upscaling?  I am kind of curious to try this with some of my backlog.   
7006  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: RAGE, the video game. on: August 14, 2010, 07:57:37 PM
They've been losing ground to the unreal engine for years in any case. Quite a contrast from post doom 3 and seeing a lot of games built using engine 4.
7007  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mafia II on: August 14, 2010, 04:44:43 AM

Quote from: Chaz on August 14, 2010, 02:37:30 AM

Goddamit, the demo just cost me $50.  Oh well, at least I don't have to dig out my Mafia 1 discs.  Because I'm totally replaying that one before the new one.

if you buy it on steam, you won't have to.  they throw in the first one as a freebie for preordering.
7008  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Irrational teaser site (Bioshock : Infinite) on: August 14, 2010, 12:16:11 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 13, 2010, 10:54:11 PM

Quote from: Laner on August 13, 2010, 10:28:18 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 13, 2010, 06:35:36 PM

Quote from: Ridah on August 13, 2010, 06:23:20 PM

I didn't catch the Steampunk stuff that people have been mentioning, any examples from the trailer?

It's kind of the whole thing. Airships and brass and a Victorian sensibility with futuristic objects.

Yes, but were there goggles?  You can't have steampunk without goggles.

Caine's got 'em.
not any more, they don't do anything.
7009  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops on: August 13, 2010, 09:10:48 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 13, 2010, 05:33:27 PM

looks like PC players are getting left out again.  No CE for us!

eh, if i wanted a toy car with a camera, i would buy the same model from the toy company ala MW2 nvg.  or wait for the inevitable sale when these things are still sitting on the shelf 4 months later (also like MW2)
7010  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Expendables on: August 13, 2010, 08:49:22 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on August 13, 2010, 08:17:47 PM

Quote from: Caine on August 13, 2010, 08:13:51 PM

Any official reviews yet?

1:15pm now, catching the 3:30pm show.  Should have impressions upon return.  If you mean official as in online review sites, you can read the mixed reception here.

I think impressions depend entirely on initial expectations.  I'm expecting a guilty-pleasure 80's action flick with updated technology, great humor, fun action, and tons of explosions.  And it sounds like that is exactly what we'll get.

better than i expected amongst critical reviewers.  eh, not like it matters for a popcorn flick anyways and enough people are liking it for what it is and not what it could have been. 
7011  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Deus Ex 3: Human Revolution - Finally, some info! on: August 13, 2010, 08:35:32 PM
looks nice.  i like the way they implemented the powers shown in the e3 trailer.
7012  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mafia II on: August 13, 2010, 08:30:07 PM
10 hours for the main missions perhaps?  i know i spent more than that on the first, but no idea how much exactly. 

i'd wait until i see people finishing this up within 10 hours if i were concerned, but i really think this is one of those games you play without rushing through.  hopefully, there are compelling reasons to do so outside of collecting cars and hunting for magazines as the environment looks amazing and it would suck if they only put the life into the game during scripted sections. 
7013  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 on: August 13, 2010, 08:26:41 PM
isn't that more or less how call of pripyat was made?  open world exploration with lots of different ai interactions?  throw in some vehicles and co-op and that's pretty much what i remember being hyped for all those years back. 
7014  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Irrational: and the new game is..... Bioshock: Infinite on: August 13, 2010, 08:25:24 PM
i think the biggest generator of "meh" is this is what Irrational considers "new IP".  if IW had announced pulled the same thing with modern warfare, people would have had a similar reaction too.  no doubt BI will be a great game and could very be strong enough to distance itself from the first two, but it's hard to get excited when we all imagine what they could do with really new IP. 
7015  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 on: August 13, 2010, 08:19:41 PM
A.W.E.S.O.M.E.1.1.!.!.!.1. W.I.T.H. A. S.I.D.E. O.F. O.F. F.-.Y.E.A.H.

it will be a good time to rebuild the pc then too.
7016  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Woman freaks out because she cant get nuggets on: August 13, 2010, 08:16:33 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on August 13, 2010, 02:48:14 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on August 12, 2010, 05:12:19 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on August 11, 2010, 10:48:26 PM

That is the COMPLETELY wrong technique for breaking a window.  She's using her elbow all wrong.   Pshhhh    retard

It looks like near the end she throws an open beer through the window.  From her car.   saywhat

But I can understand her frustration.  Odds are it was her turn to pick up grub for the meth lab workers, and they can be an angry bunch if not fed promptly. 

Clearly alcohol abuse, am I right Pete?  Still....Pabst Blue Ribbon was MADE to be thrown...
up?
7017  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Expendables on: August 13, 2010, 08:13:51 PM
Any official reviews yet?
7018  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blockbuster May File Chapter 11 on: August 13, 2010, 08:10:59 PM
The animosity comes from years of bad business decisions and dealing with the hassle and annoyances of the B&M stores.
7019  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Weekend Playlist -- 08/13/10 on: August 13, 2010, 08:02:52 PM
Darkstar One for a bit as it's a good space shooter, even though it's imperfect.
Starcraft 2 for sure.
Maybe some Gratuitous space battles for distraction.
7020  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Irrational teaser site (Bioshock : Infinite) on: August 13, 2010, 07:59:29 PM
The big daddy-like enforcer also invokes a steampunk design.

The biggest thing is definitely the airships though.
7021  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blockbuster May File Chapter 11 on: August 13, 2010, 06:02:37 PM
a $3 discount to use a competing product?  why in the world would comcast do such a thing when they are basically offering on-demand stuff for movies already?  might be worth it for the tv shows though as on-demand is pretty hit or miss for series and no use at all if you don't subscribe to the premium channels. 

still, with netflix, i would much rather use that with the 360 over mailed discs anyway.
7022  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tropico 4 on: August 13, 2010, 05:48:47 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 13, 2010, 04:46:04 PM

so in theory a new company should be pumping out Tropico 5 & 6 starting around 2017?


 Tongue

quiet you!

maybe they can work Kinect into the console version.  fist pump for extra points during the speeches. 

i still need to play through the 3rd game. 
7023  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Irrational teaser site (Bioshock : Infinite) on: August 13, 2010, 05:26:03 PM
it's set in 1912 so about 40 years before rapture is built.  one of the characters you see a glimpse of looks like ryan as well, but no confirmation if it is.  it would also make him much older in bioshock than he looks.
7024  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: August 13, 2010, 05:24:23 PM
i see the reaction daehawk has as a confirmation that game storylines can be just as moving as movies and books. 
Spoiler for Hiden:
i went into that scene with a heavy sense of foreboding and thought it was appropriately written.  it also makes the last scene more powerful.
7025  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Want to make your own In N Out burger? on: August 13, 2010, 04:51:14 PM

Quote from: ericb on August 13, 2010, 04:47:33 PM

60%...better make the patties huge because it's going to cook down to about a quarter of the original size smile

and for your safety, do this outside on the grill that way you lessen the chance of a grease fire in your house. 
7026  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamescom 2010 on: August 12, 2010, 09:04:54 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on August 11, 2010, 07:33:45 PM

Epic apparently have some 'bulletstorm sized' announcement to make,CVG seem to think its an entirely new game
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=259630

CVG mention that it could be a massive new game announcement after this Twitter announcement

Quote
'Bulletstorm sized unveil coming to Games-Com - I'd tell you to hold onto your hats, but that won't matter when your HEAD EXPLODES biggrin'

to me it seems that it would be more to do with Bulletstorm itself,but i guess they(CVG)could be right

how about Rage on the iphone?  60fps and high detail levels.  looks as good as anything on last gen consoles, but imo, as good as some stuff this gen.  texture work is great. 
7027  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Irrational teaser site (Bioshock : Infinite) on: August 12, 2010, 09:00:15 PM
it would be nice to see the downfall of the society as it happens instead of piecing it together afterwards.
7028  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: August 12, 2010, 08:57:53 PM
aha, nice.
7029  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Best video card for $100(ish) on: August 12, 2010, 08:40:24 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on August 12, 2010, 05:22:56 PM

NewEgg had a 512mb 4850 for $70 last night.

looks like that one sold out.  here's the big brother
7030  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Irrational teaser site (Bioshock : Infinite) on: August 12, 2010, 08:35:28 PM
from the demo preview it sounds like the civvies are normal until something changes them, then they go all children of the corn on you.  i hope there is some interaction though as it really gets old fighting by yourself all the time.  it would be great to have some locals in support and some kind of raging war instead of all-on-one.
7031  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Gogamer 48-hour madness - bundle sale on: August 12, 2010, 08:23:06 PM
Two Worlds / Rise of the Argonauts Bundle - $4.90
Velvet Assassin / Prey - $4.90
Blood Bowl / Section 8 - $6.90
Stronghold Legends / Warhammer 40K Dawn of War GOTY / End War - $9.90
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames / Legendary / Necrovision / Painkiller Black - $10.90

Complete list with more

GT link
7032  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Impulse Weekend Sale 8-12-2010 on: August 12, 2010, 08:05:46 PM
at least they are consistent?
7033  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Irrational: and the new game is..... Bioshock: Infinite on: August 12, 2010, 06:16:55 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 12, 2010, 06:04:27 PM

Quote from: Razgon on August 12, 2010, 06:03:17 PM

well, that was disappointing.

+1. I think they're stretching the idea of 'new ip' a bit.
+ infinity

i would be more impressed if it weren't called bioshock.  
7034  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Skyline trailer on: August 12, 2010, 06:12:11 PM
let's see, where to start?  they mention stephen hawking a few times.  two generic cops stare up at the sky; i expected to see will smith again, except this time he's a fighter pilot MIB cop who fights robots aliens and this time he's teamed up with an old young white guy.  instead, they got Turk and Milo. 

what else, it's L.A., so i expected to see more half naked people among the group shot.  if you only get lifted when you go outside, i guess that leaves the hackers to save the day again. 

 a minute and a half to explain the background image on the trailer page?  not much of a surprise there.  should have kept the background more generic for a while.  oddly enough, my first thought was of the plot of Prey, the game.  by the name, i really expected to see a street racing movie with everyone's favorite bald and gruffy guy, riddick. 

tbh, the trailer was ok and shows promise, even if they do end up with some generic aspects to the story.  as long as they don't hack the alien mothership with an iPad, i'll be happy with it.  been a while since a good sci fi invasion movie. 
7035  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Quakecon Sale Day 1: Oblivion 60% off on: August 12, 2010, 05:06:17 PM
while i know that id and Bethesda are working together now, it still looks off to see "id sale - Oblivion 60% off".  you know, because the first thing i think of when i see id is deep open world rpg's. 
7036  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Halo: Reach deals? on: August 12, 2010, 04:17:59 PM
newegg had it for $45 up front but has cut the discount to $10 now. 
7037  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: [iTunes] Square Enix Games sale on: August 12, 2010, 04:17:26 PM
Song Summoner - 4.99
FF 1 - $6.99
FF2 - $6.99
Vanguard Storm - $2.99
Crystal Defenders - $3.99
Hills and Rivers Remain - $3.99
Chaos Rings - $9.99

this is all due to the release of Chaos Rings from what the description reads and is good for two weeks.
7038  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Borderlands Impressions incoming! DLC on it's way! on: August 12, 2010, 04:02:55 PM
never did either.  after plowing through zombie ned in the upper 40's and going to level 53 or so in the armory, i kind of lost interest.  that and a big game i was looking forward to was released.  of course, i could never get a group together to take on the crab.s
7039  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mafia II demo for 360 out now on: August 11, 2010, 11:23:54 PM
It was mentioned in one of the videos that the game is set in the winter in the '40s after Vito gets out of the war and then jumps to the '50s at some point in the summer. The devs were sure to point out the difference in the city between the two periods, with more austere details compared to the richer people later on.

As for the cars, I remember the mechanic, but I was referring to the cars in your garage and wether they were unique and therefore could be lost or more like SR where the car would be replaced if you left it or destroyed it.
7040  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mafia II demo for 360 out now on: August 11, 2010, 08:27:47 PM

Quote from: Razgon on August 11, 2010, 08:02:31 PM

Gameplay-wise this reminds me a lot of Saboteur. Can the first mafia game be compared to the kind of gameplay as well? I mean, open-world stuff to do, missions to continue the actual story, and stuff to do like collect cars and such?
no, not really.  there were a linear mission order in mafia 1 iirc and you only got the open world experience during the transit portions and in a separate open world game mode which wasn't tied to your character.  it had challenges and some exploration but it wasn't very deep.  more like offering you the chance to revisit the places in the main game and see how the world worked when you weren't in the story.

i hope they did away with that now and give you the freedom to take missions when you want and explore while you don't.  then it could be remeniscent of saboteur i guess, but without the nazi's and the occupation aspects.  if you want, imagine that sean adopts an italian accent and moves overseas after the war, i guess.  biggrin

despite finishing up saboteur, i kind of have the hankering to play through it again. 
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