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1  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Elite: Dangerous on: Today at 03:13:54 AM
The throttle option is called 'Throttle axis range'  Full Range or Forward Only

Set the control pre-set to the X52 in ED, then modify from there. 

Here's a good thread with more on it.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=15257

In game controls


keymap reference


Keep in mind, this is showing the Pro, but the same buttons (exception being the MFD) are present on both models, just ID'ed differently.  Here's a quick comparison
 
Pro - Standard
Button map callout vs label in control panel.
16  -   31
17  -   scroll down
18  -   scroll up
19  -   32
31  -   30

Joy20-23 - POV 2 URDL
Joy24-27 - Throttle Hat URDL

Changes I made to this config:
I set Joy11 to Landing gear so I don't need to hunt during that moment.  I remapped Joy7 (reverse thrust) to assisted mode as I use the full range throttle.  I set Joy16 to Toggle head look in the rare cases I use the mouse to find something outside of view.  I set Joy32 to Next subcomponent, at least until I get the game to recognize the up/down scroll wheel inputs. 

Other than that, it's mostly just trial and error like you said once you get comfortable with the controls.  Learning to use the Joy6 (UI Focus mode) in combination with the two hats on the joystick and Joy4 to select will let you do all the Nav,contacts,Comms without looking down or touching the keyboard. 

I recommend starting a normal solo game to get familiar with the basics of flight, then exit and load up the combat scenarios.  you need to go in order, but there's no risk to dying here and you get to try out one of the later ships after a few missions. 
2  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Elite: Dangerous on: Today at 12:36:44 AM

Quote from: pingwrx on August 20, 2014, 10:12:53 PM

Ok just got home with x52 regular version any tips for configuring the setup.

These two to start.  Relevant thread for reference:
http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=364346


Quote from: TiLT on August 18, 2014, 08:19:30 PM

Quote from: Caine on August 18, 2014, 08:12:44 PM

did you get the original or the pro, Kato?  I've found that for the most part, you can manage with the default control setup, but ran across a known issue.  the pinkie button at the bottom of the joystick grip is flaky and isn't picked up in game unless you have the x52 control panel up. 

I don't know if this is related, but you have to make sure you disable the clutch toggle in the x52 control panel, or the Boost command won't work in the game. It might be the same problem you're having.

If you install the editor, you can set the throttle click-wheel (just right of the throttle hat) to individual buttons if you remove the mapping to the default.  I haven't gone through to set up a complete profile as most of the work was done in ED directly just through it's control mapping.  If you do load up a default profile, it was recommended to remove the other modes and just leave mode 1.  TBH, not sure if this is needed though.

personally, try both options for the throttle, one using a toggle for forwards/back and the other maps the full range of the throttle for forwards/back.  I find the second option can help in landing if you over-shoot, plus it frees up a button for something else.
3  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: on: August 20, 2014, 07:43:35 PM
Heavier duty, from what I can tell,  plus the centering is better,  more resistive where the non pro is free-moving.

I have no complaints about either with the regular model, even though the center isn't solid, it doesn't intefere with level flight.
4  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Elite: Dangerous on: August 20, 2014, 06:59:08 PM
I definitely like having the X52.  Like Kato said, you can put pretty much every major game mapping onto the joystick. You lose out on the extended targeting options, but you are able to have all of your combat controls without lifting your hands.  

BTW, if you see the two models, Pro and non, know that they are functionally identical and really only differ in the construction materials and the centering mechanism.
5  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 20, 2014, 05:14:58 PM
They also started a 2K weekend


First up is Civ V
Civ V - $7.49
Brave New World - $7.49
Complete - $16.49
6  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 20, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
08/20/14



$2.99
7  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4/PS3/Vita] Counterspy on: August 20, 2014, 03:42:57 PM
The review on Polygon was pretty hard on the game, but GT seemed to like it.  So far, I'm about half way between the 5 and 9, depending on the layout of the randomly generated levels and the enemy placement.  I had the western power down to Defcon 4, then got completely screwed by a squad which was held up at the last terminal.  No way around it of course, but what made this go from bad to annoyance was a rocket soldier who was in the background. He was camped in a place without a cover shot nearby, so I couldn't pick him off.  He also had a view onto the only cover available for the squad at the end. 

So, instead of getting a quick ending to an otherwise good mission, I get a rocket in the back.  This alerted the squad, and I was killed with a grenade.  By the time I routed them, I was at Defcon 1. 
8  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Do you buy DVDs anymore? on: August 19, 2014, 10:05:28 PM
yup.  we still get them on physical discs.  easy to use on the portable player when we travel.  we still have one of those old school dual screen/1 drive portable units.  cheaper than getting two tablets and going digital.
9  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4/PS3/Vita] Counterspy on: August 19, 2014, 09:50:18 PM
Played two of the missions so far.  You have to balance out the two sides so neither one gets too 'antsy'.  The only complaint I have on the Vita version is that the load screens are pretty long.  Otherwise, you have a nice mix of side scroller and first-person shooting.
10  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [PS4/PS3/Vita] Counterspy on: August 19, 2014, 08:18:07 PM
Surprised no thread was created on this.  Anyone else pick it up?  I haven't had a chance to try the PS4 version yet, but the Vita version looks good. 
11  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 19, 2014, 05:04:02 PM
08/19/14



$3.74
12  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 19, 2014, 05:02:54 PM
Midweek Madness
Portal 2



$4.99
13  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 19, 2014, 05:02:40 PM
Midweek Madness



$4.99

Metro: Last Light - Chronicles Pack - $1.24
Metro: Last Light - Developer Pack - $0.99
Metro: Last Light - Faction Pack - $1.24
Metro: Last Light - RPK - $0.24
Metro: Last Light - Novel - Free
Metro: Last Light - Ranger Mode - $1.24
Metro: Last Light - Tower Pack - $1.24
14  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Elite: Dangerous on: August 18, 2014, 08:12:44 PM

Quote from: USMC Kato on August 18, 2014, 08:06:39 PM

Bought the game, waiting for my Saitek X52 to arrive before I play smile
did you get the original or the pro, Kato?  I've found that for the most part, you can manage with the default control setup, but ran across a known issue.  the pinkie button at the bottom of the joystick grip is flaky and isn't picked up in game unless you have the x52 control panel up. 

I'm slowly tweaking the config to keep as much of the gameplay off the keyboard.  sadly, the built in mouse on the throttle isn't recognized at all or it would make a great alternative to the free-look of a normal mouse.

Thanks for the hints TiLT.  I haven't spent any time in that mode of the galaxy map.  Good advice. 
15  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Weekend Playlist -- 8/15/14 on: August 18, 2014, 06:33:03 PM

Quote from: Caine on August 15, 2014, 02:51:09 PM

Going to spend my free time with Elite Dangerous. 
got a few hours, but my whole weekend (plus Friday) was wrecked from being sick all weekend. 
16  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Elite: Dangerous on: August 18, 2014, 06:32:13 PM
I only managed to play for a few hours on Friday before the nastiness of a cold set in.  I had a few combat encounters just by hanging around the preset nav points in the systems.  Just hang around and wait for those with a wanted status to pop up, then close the distance to them, shift all power over to weapons and let fly.  Took out another sidewinder and got another down to low teens in hull strength before he escaped.  I turned in the bounty the next time I refueled.  I got ambushed by a interdiction loving set of pirates who swarmed me in much stronger ships and couldn't break free, but I didn't have the thought to flee until it was too late. 

Best run was after I restarted at the base and took a mission to take out a few wanted civvies. I had a system security ship join in on a wanted in a larger ship.  I've forgotten the name, but he tore me up pretty good and dropped my hull down to half.  Then, I must have smashed something important in hi ship as he was left spinning and unable to shoot back.  Took a while to kill him, but I got a pretty good bounty off of that, plus he counted against the mission.  I am liking the combat so far. 

Any hints specific to ED to get started on the trading side?  I would rather like to avoid the hassle of flying off to every station in range just to chart off the prices on paper.  It worked back in Privateer's day, but It's no less a PitA
17  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Diablo III --Impressions start on page 36 -- on: August 18, 2014, 06:19:37 PM
how does this tie in with battle.net? or does it at all?  I haven't logged in in so long, I may have issues with my token generator.
18  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 18, 2014, 06:00:54 PM



highlights?
Viktor - $7.49 - well-reviewed side scroller in the metroid-vania tradition
Descent: FreeSpace The Great War - $2.99 - Classic space sim. 
Zeno Clash 2 - $1.94 - crazy sequel to a 1st person brawler
AI War Bundle (2014) - $6.80 - Full game with all expansions. 
Gimbal - $8.99 - fully customizable vehicles in a top-down space mp arena
Alien Breed series - $4.99 each - good action series inspired by old school original
19  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 18, 2014, 05:50:35 PM
8/18



Standard $4.99

Current Lowest Price: $4.99 at Steam
Historical Lowest Price: $4.99 at GameFly PC on Thu Jul 03 2014
20  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (08/18) on: August 18, 2014, 04:23:03 AM
Getting Counterspy as it looks like a great little game for the Vita.  Going to pick up D3 on the PS4 at some point, but I'm not sure just when. 
21  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: Diablo III --Impressions start on page 36 -- on: August 17, 2014, 11:43:02 PM

Quote from: The Grue on August 17, 2014, 10:37:46 PM

I'm only double dipping as I knew there was going to be a PS4 version, so I had enough willpower to skip the PS3 one.

I'm considering this myself. I had originally pegged Sacred 3 to fill the ARPG itch, but that died after more information came out about the changes. I'm looking forward to seeing how D3 has been updated and the new content.
22  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 17, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
8/17



Standard $12.49

Classic Edition $16.24
23  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 16, 2014, 05:08:21 PM
8/16



$2.99
24  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 15, 2014, 05:03:24 PM
Weekend Spotlight



$5.99

25  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 15, 2014, 05:02:22 PM
8/15



$7.49
26  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Weekend Playlist -- 8/15/14 on: August 15, 2014, 02:51:09 PM
Going to spend my free time with Elite Dangerous. 
27  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 14, 2014, 05:06:23 PM
Kalypso Anniversary Sale!



Post seems to have been pulled for editing.  I'll check back later
28  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 14, 2014, 05:04:34 PM
Free Weekend
Play until 10am PST Monday



$2.24
29  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamescom 2014 on: August 14, 2014, 03:43:01 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on August 14, 2014, 03:32:55 PM

Polygon has such a pro-MS slant that I'm not surprised about this article in the least.  Also, when he makes an argument about the size of the lost market, he completely over-estimates the number of dual-console owners and willfully ignores the actual number of console sales.  Might as well be making up how much each copy SE stands to earn as well.  The whole article reads like a what-if post on gaf.
30  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Elite: Dangerous on: August 14, 2014, 05:22:22 AM
Ok, bought, configured my x52 and played about an hour or so.  mostly tooling around in the scenarios and a quick dock in solo mode to the closest station.  I'm getting the hang of the controls and have a decent mapping (I hope). 

Now, I just need time to get in and take some quick missions, work up to the next ship that hopefully doesn't look like an 80's sci-fi design.  Love the flight model and the environment details look pretty slick. 

feel free to add me as 'Kasei Vallis' in the game
31  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Elite: Dangerous on: August 13, 2014, 08:45:42 PM
I think I'll be picking this up today.  The gameplay videos all look very good to me and I love the engine that they've built.
32  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamescom 2014 on: August 13, 2014, 08:42:53 PM

Quote from: gellar on August 13, 2014, 07:11:20 PM

Quote from: Caine on August 13, 2014, 06:04:48 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on August 13, 2014, 05:29:21 PM

Quote
It amounts to bribery or extortion, depending on who's doing the offering.  "give me money and I'll change who gets the product and when."

It would only be extortion if you had no other choices as a consumer. You have plenty of choices. The first and foremost being, go purchase and play a competitor's game. Nobody has the right to play Tomb Raider.

[Edit] - I'm not going to get into the entitlement argument anymore - gamers are spoiled brats, you know it and I know it.
by extortion, I mean the publisher to Sony or MS.  "If you don't give me money (or more than the other guy), I'll withhold this from your platform"

No, that's just business.

Extortion means a threat of violence.

well, technically, it depends on your definition of threats, which isn't strictly of a physical nature.

the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

in any case, it's not a business practice that I appreciate being used. 
33  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Breaking bad as good/bad as usual! on: August 13, 2014, 07:06:56 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on August 13, 2014, 02:16:59 PM

Quote from: ATB on August 13, 2014, 12:22:17 PM

Spoils

Season 5 was easily the best season of the show's run. Can't imagine having had to wait a week between episodes.

I'm not a BB nuthugger as I think the first two seasons were pretty mediocre. However, when Gus came on the scene things really started picking up.

More spoilsies


Did you know that the Gus character wasn't even part of the original plan?  Tuco was supposed to be the main bad guy for a longer stretch, but the actor had to leave the show because of a conflict with other stuff he was filming.  They invented Gus to be a bad guy as opposite to Tuco's personality as possible, and they liked him so much they kept the character going.
Amazing, but it was for the best.  Tuco was the early crazy guy that you deal with, but you know you can never trust him.  Gus was this business man who you went in thinking you could handle in a conflict, only to reveal how much you under estimated him.  Best bad guy in a long time.
34  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 13, 2014, 06:18:58 PM
yeah, it's a bit hit or miss too from the steam reviews.  Polygon had an interesting article about it

Yes  64%
No   36%

beyond that, it screams 'indie bundle' and I'd expect it will be in one of them eventually.
35  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamescom 2014 on: August 13, 2014, 06:04:48 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on August 13, 2014, 05:29:21 PM

Quote
It amounts to bribery or extortion, depending on who's doing the offering.  "give me money and I'll change who gets the product and when."

It would only be extortion if you had no other choices as a consumer. You have plenty of choices. The first and foremost being, go purchase and play a competitor's game. Nobody has the right to play Tomb Raider.

[Edit] - I'm not going to get into the entitlement argument anymore - gamers are spoiled brats, you know it and I know it.
by extortion, I mean the publisher to Sony or MS.  "If you don't give me money (or more than the other guy), I'll withhold this from your platform"
36  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamescom 2014 on: August 13, 2014, 05:26:33 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on August 13, 2014, 05:24:58 PM

I still don't see a problem with it. Microsoft saw an opportunity to make money and they took that opportunity. They're a business, and they have a responsibility to their shareholders to make money.

Now if the circumstance upsets me, I agree then I have a right to vote with my wallet. And that's all well and good. But I'm not going to get upset at Microsoft for taking advantage of a way to make money. They don't owe me anything.

I mean, we're not talking about Microsoft taking food away from my kids or polluting the environment. They're making me wait a year to play a particular game I want to play (among dozens of other games). Boo hoo. I'm sure the starving kids in Ethiopia or the Iraq kids getting slaughtered by ISIS are just in tears over my terrible first world predicament.



Godwin would agree with you.  Nothing like a little perspective to destroy an argument's validity.
37  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamescom 2014 on: August 13, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
It amounts to bribery or extortion, depending on who's doing the offering.  "give me money and I'll change who gets the product and when."  This isn't footing the bill for development or covering of costs of DLC.  It's a bait and switch with us as the pawn.  It would be no better if Sony had paid the cash to keep it console exclusive.  This isn't a business tactic that should be rewarded in any way.  
38  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: August 13, 2014, 05:19:16 PM
8/13



Standard $4.99
Soundtrack Edition $7.49

Current Lowest Price: $4.99 at Steam
Historical Lowest Price: $4.99 at Steam on Wed Aug 13 2014
39  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC/XB1/ps4] The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt on: August 13, 2014, 05:09:15 PM
That looks great.  Can't wait to play this.  Love the minimal hud they have here.
40  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamescom 2014 on: August 13, 2014, 04:01:14 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on August 13, 2014, 02:35:07 PM

Quote from: TiLT on August 13, 2014, 02:29:23 PM


It makes more sense now...   Still kinda crappy
Changes nothing.  They burned their bridge with me.  I'm ok with timed dlc exclusivity as they are after market gains and it isn't any different when both sides do it.  Taking an expected sequel, announcing it as multi-platform at launch, then holding back one version because one side wants to play first? That's a bullshit tactic and I intend to speak against it in the only way I have.  I'm not buying their games and I have responded to them over twitter to let them know it's due to this decision. 
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