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41  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [TV] The Muppets on: July 22, 2015, 03:20:58 PM
I could have sworn we had a thread about the upcoming Muppets TV show, but I can't find it.

Anyway, here are the ten minutes The Muppets used to sell themselves to ABC.

There are definitely some laugh-out-loud moments in there, and I am looking forward to the show.
42  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Remastered Journey coming to PS4 July 21 on: July 22, 2015, 01:10:18 PM

Quote from: Turtle on July 22, 2015, 04:21:27 AM

It's also not MP in the traditional sense. There's very little interaction and that's intended. To be frank, the detractors may be blowing things way out of proportion. But honestly if you're so against multiplayer anything as an ideology, then sure, say away.

If you're willing to give it a shot, and are willing to work with, actively ignore or avoid, or laugh at others you happen to encounter it's worth a shot. You never get talked to in an actual language, they can't send you messages, all they can do is ping. Likewise, you see someone you don't want to interact with, walk the other way until he disappears from your game.

All of which, as options, are annoying when you're just trying to enjoy the pace and flow and atmosphere that the game has to offer otherwise.
43  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (7/14) on: July 17, 2015, 03:55:08 PM

Quote from: Lee on July 17, 2015, 03:16:42 PM

Quote from: Reemul on July 17, 2015, 01:32:08 PM

I shelved RM Golf the reviews are awful and got The Golf Club while on offer and also bought the extreme edition for the season and extras. Not played a massive amount but it sure is great. Really enjoying it exce[tfor tehputting which I cant do yet but its more of a learning thing.

I am always looking that game and wanting to try it, but the reviews aren't very good. Has it gotten better, or were the reviews harsh?

The EA games never captured the Links feeling for me. Miss that game.

I think some of the reviews for The Golf Club were pretty harsh.  It's a very good golf game, IMO.

My biggest issue with it, is that it's next to impossible to control the power of your swing with any accuracy.  I'm not saying I need to be able to hit 92% instead of 99%, as this isn't that kind of golf game, but I find I'm inconsistent in swing power (and chip control is a nightmare).  In that way, it's exactly like golf.

I really like the voiceover guy, too (he's one of the makers of the game).  He's got just the right level of friendly ribbing that's somehow encouraging.  Plus it often feels like he's actually watching you play.
44  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: July 17, 2015, 02:23:59 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on July 17, 2015, 01:24:59 PM

Quote from: farley2k on July 16, 2015, 02:50:28 PM

In 1985, TIME Magazine predicted MJ would look like in 2000




So they thought he would turn into Lando Calrissian?

I thought the same thing, then the clothes made me think of Ray Parker, Jr.
45  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Remastered Journey coming to PS4 July 21 on: July 17, 2015, 12:59:37 PM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on July 17, 2015, 12:56:24 PM

Quote from: Dante Rising on July 13, 2015, 03:28:18 AM

Quote from: TiLT on July 08, 2015, 06:36:11 PM

I guess it would help understand my frustration when I say that the pre-release marketing for this game specifically said that it could be played either alone or with another player. They never gave any sort of indication that multiplayer would be forced upon you. To most people that might be a pleasant surprise. To me it was false advertising, leading me to purchase a product I might otherwise have reconsidered.

This sums up my anger with the game. I would have loved to play solo, or invite one specific friend to enjoy the landscape with me. Instead, when I attempted to play it was clear the person who dropped in to my game had already completed it in the past. He was a complete distraction throughout the short time I played.

Mine as well. While I would normally pick up stuff like this, really hesitant.

You do get it free if you owned the PS3 version, supposedly, so if you've played it in the past, there's no reason not to try again.

I may give it a shake, but I imagine it'll be one of the first to get the axe the next time the PS HDD needs to be cleared out.
46  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: July 16, 2015, 02:34:36 PM
I think what dates that collection the most is "The Simple Minds" but, man, that could have been my tape collection, for the most part.
47  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Waning forum usage? on: July 15, 2015, 02:47:50 AM

Quote from: Lordnine on July 14, 2015, 07:59:39 PM

The thing I notice most is that while threads still get quite a lot of views, no one bothers to comment on them.  The few people who do still post content stop because itís not fun to talk to empty walls. 

We really need a Like/Thumbs Up system.
48  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Armada [by the author of Ready Player One] on: July 14, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Loved Ready Player One.  I thought it hit every nail possible right on the head.

Looking forward to Armada, though I'm waiting a bit.  Looking forward to impressions.
49  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Dear Gamespot, Stop Trying to Make Me Care about Your Host Personalities on: July 09, 2015, 01:58:31 PM
I've never had a thread get locked before.  Wow.

Of course, I've never had a thread go from amusing and entertaining to hatefest so quickly.

Anyway, thank you for getting it, AA.
50  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / So transparent aluminum is a thing. on: July 09, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
Someone must have had to use a keyboard.  How quaint.

Transparent Aluminum

And it's bulletproof, too.
51  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Dear Gamespot, Stop Trying to Make Me Care about Your Host Personalities on: July 08, 2015, 03:50:09 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on July 08, 2015, 03:23:06 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 08, 2015, 02:55:44 PM

Read the thread.

I have and this really seems more like a "you" issue than a gamespot issue.

Okay.  Well, this went from a light-hearted goof to a pile-on faster than expected, so everyone just move on.
52  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Dear Gamespot, Stop Trying to Make Me Care about Your Host Personalities on: July 08, 2015, 02:55:44 PM
Read the thread.
53  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Dear Gamespot, Stop Trying to Make Me Care about Your Host Personalities on: July 08, 2015, 02:34:54 PM

Quote from: SeaMoosi on July 08, 2015, 01:55:17 PM

For real. Gamespot's video team has been nailing it lately.

The Point has been one of my favorite video series about gaming in recent memory.

Can't judge a video by the thumbnail.

And yet, I'm not watching it.

So, Gamespot should be aware that people do, in fact, judge a video by a thumbnail.  It happens all the time.

My loss.  I get it.  Too bad for me that Gamespot blew it for so damned long.
54  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Dear Gamespot, Stop Trying to Make Me Care about Your Host Personalities on: July 08, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
Are you freaking kidding me with this dude, Gamespot?






Is the "Derp, I play videogames in my mom's basement" demographic really that big a pull?
55  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Remastered Journey coming to PS4 July 21 on: July 08, 2015, 12:44:18 PM

Quote from: TiLT on July 08, 2015, 04:59:57 AM

Quote from: Lordnine on July 08, 2015, 04:54:26 AM

Quote from: TiLT on July 08, 2015, 04:20:21 AM

Heck, even the Souls games with their always online design allow you to choose if you want other players to be a thing in your game. Why not Journey?
I would say because the *multiplayer* was taking the place of what could have been AI creatures doing the same thing.  You were supposed to encounter other beings making the same journey you were.  Share in the strife and the wonder. They were part of the overall experience and to take it away was to make it less meaningful.

If you are to compare it to the Souls games, I would say a better comparison would be to let you keep your souls when you die or let you quick save.  It would have made the game more interesting to me but as everyone else asserts, it would defeat the purpose of the game.

So you're saying multiplayer is the purpose of Journey? I disagree strongly.

Look, can you guys just accept that when I say "I didn't like Journey because of X", the acceptable answer isn't any kind of variation of "you're wrong"? It's my opinion, no more and no less.

Too true.

I also found other players to directly take me out of the strife and wonder i was experiencing, making them little more than a distraction to what was an otherwise enjoyable world.

For example, I remember sliding into a new location to find a large, pastel dreamscape of sand and pillars and thinking look! Over there, a building of some ancient majesty!  I could explore over there...or those pillars have a nice, ascending pattern...maybe I could climb--who the hell is that guy hopping up and down over there?  What is he an idiot?  Look at those pillars, though, they sure are enticing.  I could just--goddamnit, now the dude is sliding right into my face.  Out of the way, moron, I was looking at some pillars.  Oooh, they have orbs on top of them.  I'll just head over and--Are you kidding me?! He's taking my orbs!! And not even gracefully, since he's still hopping around like an idiot.  This was a graceful world before you showed up, jerk.

56  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Remastered Journey coming to PS4 July 21 on: July 07, 2015, 07:49:29 PM

Quote from: TiLT on July 07, 2015, 05:31:27 PM

Quote from: Lordnine on July 07, 2015, 05:08:05 PM

Quote from: TiLT on July 07, 2015, 03:34:58 PM

I hope it can be played solo this time around, because the forced multiplayer really ruined the experience for me the first (and only) time I played it. Still, even if it can't be played solo, I can still pull out my network cable if necessary.

 saywhat

The multiplayer was one of the most interesting aspects of the game.  I remember the first time I was separated from my *friend* I was actually pretty sad and spent a good five minutes trying to find him again.

To understand my experience, you must realize that I don't enjoy multiplayer games over the Internet, especially not with strangers. Journey offered me plenty of exploration and beguiling secrets, then plopped another player in my lap who either took my goals right ahead of me or jumped all around me, pestering me to keep pushing on with the story. I had no choice in the matter. All the game needed was a single player option. I understand that this aspect of the game was really enjoyable to a lot of people. Just not to me. The lack of that little option made Journey drop from "must-play" to "game that pissed me off the most in 2012".

While I certainly didn't rank it as the "game that pissed me off the most in 2012," I also didn't really love random reallies being dropped into my world.
57  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: July 07, 2015, 01:42:28 AM

Quote from: TiLT on July 06, 2015, 07:55:38 PM

Quote from: Lee on July 06, 2015, 07:29:06 PM

Anyone who doesn't get it: Think software, it's not a bug, it's a feature.

I'm a software developer, so I got it immediately. I suspect most within the profession would. Tongue

I am not, but I also got it.
58  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Post Your Steam Summer Sale Loot Here! on: June 23, 2015, 07:58:49 AM
I don't want to talk about it. 

Let's just say I got a new laptop recently and needed to "test it."
59  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: on: June 19, 2015, 07:20:31 PM

Quote from: Crawley on June 19, 2015, 05:59:58 PM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on June 19, 2015, 03:29:24 PM

Quote from: Rumpy on June 17, 2015, 11:35:57 PM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on June 15, 2015, 06:53:11 PM

D. id just conclusively proved they can do absolutely nothing original.

I dunno, but I feel like Rage is one of the best things they've done recently. Sure, the game received a lot of criticism, but if you take the game for what it is,  it's great. I'm currently playing it and I feel it has a lot of personality going for it. I wish they'd go more in that direction than Doom & Quake over and over again.

I quit RAGE (RAGEquit?) after about two hours. Could not get into it in the slightest and, oh yeah, everything was brown again. Yay color palettes! Look, I'm not a default id hater, as I recognize they make terrific engines and pioneered the shooter genre. But it seems that even when they try to branch out (ie RAGE) they fail. At that point, it's time to hire some new people who actually understand how to craft stories and unique worlds. Let id's programmers build up the engine, and hire others to do the rest of the work. But that's me.

Hmm. I dunno. I'm in the loved Rage camp. The story seemed decent enough for a FPS. I was actually pretty interested in where the story was going up until the end where it just abruptly ended. The engine was actually the failing part initially as it just didn't work - with a lot of texture pop-in as you looked left/right. That never got fully fixed but got to a point where it was good enough.

Yeah, I loved Rage, too. 

And I never thought "everything was brown."  My memories of it are sunny and yellow and blue (with some darker colors inside, of course, but even then never, ever Doom 3 levels.
60  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: iPhone/iTouch app and game thread on: June 19, 2015, 02:03:31 PM

Quote from: Gratch on June 19, 2015, 01:46:17 PM

The new game from Halfbrick (Fruit Ninja, Jetpack Joyride) is out, titled Radical Rappelling.  The premise sounds silly (an endless runner as your climber rappels down the mountain), but it's actually a hell of a lot of fun and completely addicting.

This took a few goes for it to click with me, but once it did, it definitely did.
61  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] Jurassic World on: June 18, 2015, 03:50:26 PM
Zookeepers Recreating Chris Pratt's Moves in Jurassic World







Just a couple of examples
62  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 2015 on: June 18, 2015, 02:23:02 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 17, 2015, 04:33:01 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on June 17, 2015, 02:29:34 PM

Okay, well, I sent a request to invite you so they're maybe a process

Well, thank you.

I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Hey, here's something, did you send it to BullwinkleJ?  Instead of just Bullwinkle.


EDIT: Nevermind. I got a message from MS seconds ago. Downloading now. Thanks again, Soul!
63  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 2015 on: June 17, 2015, 04:33:01 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on June 17, 2015, 02:29:34 PM

Okay, well, I sent a request to invite you so they're maybe a process

Well, thank you.

I'll keep my eyes peeled.
64  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 2015 on: June 17, 2015, 02:08:26 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on June 17, 2015, 12:38:14 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 16, 2015, 01:05:54 PM

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Thanks, Soul.


Hey did you get the invite?

Huh.  No.  Maybe it has to go through a process at MS or something.
65  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 2015 on: June 16, 2015, 03:40:03 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 16, 2015, 03:27:27 PM

Quote from: Andrew Wonser on June 16, 2015, 03:12:29 PM

Just got through MS conference and I just don't get how anyone can compare that to drop the mic that was Sony's. Really my only quibble, with Sony, was how long Black Ops 3 was shown.

Yeah it was wonderful when they announced Shenmue 3. Was watching the GameTrailers stream for the Sony conference and it was exclamation after exclamation for the crew that was watching, with the exception of Elise. It was great to see Huber's reaction to something that he has been hoping for, for so long. I imagine he was on a high for the entire night.

Sony had some great reveals, but I think this is the first non-console release year in a long while where both Sony and Microsoft had really good presentations. BC was a big surprise, that new controller looks cool (although I don't know if I will get one), Rare Replay looks like a great value, and the Minecraft demo of hololens was impressive. I think Sony certainly wins overall, but I wasn't disappointed by the MS show.

There is also apparently a big change coming to the xbone UI (their NXE 2.0 of sorts) but they didn't touch on it during the presentation.

They talk about it quite a bit in this official video, starting at 54:45 or so.

Basically, faster.  And Cortana.
66  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 2015 on: June 16, 2015, 01:05:54 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on June 16, 2015, 12:20:13 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 16, 2015, 12:16:22 PM

I guess someone in the Preview program has to invite others into it.

Are there a limited number of invites to give or can you just send it out to anyone?

I'd love to get an invite, if it's possible for anyone.

Bullwinkle I meant to check for you last night to see if I had any invites to give out.  I'll let you know this evening

I think you're on my friends list already

Thanks, Soul.
67  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 2015 on: June 16, 2015, 12:16:22 PM
I guess someone in the Preview program has to invite others into it.

Are there a limited number of invites to give or can you just send it out to anyone?

I'd love to get an invite, if it's possible for anyone.
68  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: June 15, 2015, 11:14:28 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 15, 2015, 11:13:01 PM

Its not a lie if she really identifies as black, Lee.  If Jenner taught us anything it is that our perceptions of ourselves are in fact the reality that matters.

Why are you being a hypocrite about this? 

 Roll Eyes

Let it go, ATB.  It's not the same thing.  If you can't see that, you need to move on or take it somewhere else.
69  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] Jurassic World on: June 15, 2015, 10:50:49 PM
After seeing this movie over the weekend, I refuse to ever buy a Mercedes Benz.

Sure, there were a lot of product placements, but it was a theme park, and most of that would probably be there just like it was.  Plus, they had a nice joke from Jake Johnson about it and everything.    But the MB product shots were so gratuitous as to be offensive.  There were a ton, but the one that sticks out is where Bryce Dallas Howard drive to Chris Pratt through the jungle and when she pulls up, the car is pristine and the camera lovingly swoops around it.  Ugh.  Plus there were lines like "Let me show you something cool" and "Get the kids somewhere safe" followed immediately by a shot of the car.   They weren't necessarily talking about the car, but the juxtaposition of the line and the product seemed to be intentional.

The other product stuff felt tainted by that.  Although the shot of Jimmy Buffet protecting his drinks outside Margaritaville was priceless.

Enjoyed the movie despite that, but wow was that annoying.
70  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 2015 on: June 15, 2015, 08:14:04 PM

Quote from: Caine on June 15, 2015, 07:04:49 PM

Quote from: Jimmy the Fish on June 15, 2015, 06:49:27 PM

Thanks for posting the summary Caine. Now that I see the list after the fact, maybe it's a product of how many E3 shows I've watched to the point of being completely jaded, but the whole MS presentation was pretty 'meh'. A few interesting games. Everything certainly looked pretty, but nothing that excited me. Even the initial list of backward compatible games is disappointing. Seems like a random list of really really old early 360 games. LOL, Hexic HD was a 360 launch game, for god's sake. That Gears 4 gameplay preview was TERRIBLE. Graphics looked underwhelming and everything was so dark it was hard to watch.

I have a feeling Sony's presentation will be equally disappointing. Not a lot of pre-show hype this year for them, unless they are purposely keeping things very close to the vest in order to surprise people.

Happy to help.  I'll be doing the same with the major companies and any that don't conflict schedule wise.  I think it was a very solid presentation, but I am not overly hyped about the big titles even though I will probably get Halo 5.  TR looks good though.  I like the indie selection though and am very happy they have put effort into the scene.



Caine, you're a hero.  Thanks for the summaries.
71  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 2015 on: June 15, 2015, 08:13:27 PM

Quote from: Jimmy the Fish on June 15, 2015, 06:16:39 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 15, 2015, 06:14:40 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 15, 2015, 05:25:40 PM

I love Cuphead's aesthetics. This is the kind of stuff I watch Microsoft's conferences for.

They showed this at last year's E3.  I was psyched about it then.  I hope the time has made for a super-polished game.

Man, I can't believe the BC stuff!  I'm sitting out the conferences this year.  Was there mention of pricing for this or anything?  Or is it just available for free if you already own the game?  Playstation Now was out of the gate really early, but their pricing model is ridiculous.  Any word on save games transferring forward?

No details about BC yet, but if you own the game on disc, you insert it and it acts like a download key to let you get the digital version. Here is the initial list of BC games. Kind of underwhelming:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/backward-compatibility/available-games

That is a bummer, but I'm still psyched.

Anyone got an Xbox Preview Invite they wanna toss my way?  BullwinkleJ on Xbox.
72  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 2015 on: June 15, 2015, 06:14:40 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 15, 2015, 05:25:40 PM

I love Cuphead's aesthetics. This is the kind of stuff I watch Microsoft's conferences for.

They showed this at last year's E3.  I was psyched about it then.  I hope the time has made for a super-polished game.

Man, I can't believe the BC stuff!  I'm sitting out the conferences this year.  Was there mention of pricing for this or anything?  Or is it just available for free if you already own the game?  Playstation Now was out of the gate really early, but their pricing model is ridiculous.  Any word on save games transferring forward?
73  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Wii U] Earthbound Beginnings AKA Mother on: June 15, 2015, 04:09:02 PM
That's what I was hoping, too.
74  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [Wii U] Earthbound Beginnings AKA Mother on: June 15, 2015, 02:01:17 AM
So, um, Nintendo released the original Mother on the Wii U as Earthbound Beginnings.

That's "released" as in it's available right now.
75  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4] Ratchet and Clank on: June 13, 2015, 02:36:41 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on June 12, 2015, 07:50:02 PM

Odd, this is up for preorder and it's only $39.99

I smell classic E3 switcheroo!
76  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Rocket to the Sun - These Actors Need to go on: June 12, 2015, 12:15:30 AM

Quote from: Purge on June 11, 2015, 07:43:40 PM

Tom Hardy - You weren't even a Little Bit Angry Max. In the last two movies I've seen you in, You've had your face covered up.

You do understand "mad" can mean crazy, too, right?

Also, you're condemning him because of costuming?
77  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: June 11, 2015, 11:43:26 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on June 11, 2015, 07:27:35 PM

If you can, always wait until the last day of the sale.  Or at least until a Flash Sale, which tends to be the lowest price for the sale.

That's my usual plan, but I may be away when it ends.

Of course, I thought it started tomorrow.

When does the sale end?
78  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: June 11, 2015, 07:21:02 PM
Pillars of Eternity is 25% off at $33.74 (historic low price).

Wait or Buy? 

What do you think?
79  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Rocket to the Sun - These Actors Need to go on: June 11, 2015, 06:49:53 PM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on June 11, 2015, 06:25:18 PM

If this actually helps trans people not get beat-up and have a better life, I agree with your point.  I don't particularly see it helping... someone that would do such a thing will not be swayed by it gaining more attention.  

Anyway, I hope I didn't offend, and I still stand by the whole Kardashian family being on this rocket, including Caitlyn.


It might not sway their internal thought process, but this sea change has at least a good chance of staying their hand.
80  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Rocket to the Sun - These Actors Need to go on: June 11, 2015, 01:37:19 PM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on June 10, 2015, 11:54:05 PM

<certain thread lock>. I agree, I could give two shits about "Caitlyn" and hope to never hear another word about it.  It's whole family is a talentless joke and we would be better off if "Kardashian" wasn't in our vocabulary.

This Caitlyn stunt was nothing more than a money grab, from a slut filled fame hungry family.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Okay, I said I'd let it go.  I went away from the page, read some articles, then said out loud, "Nope" and came back.

Look, there was money to be made here for Caitlyn, sure.  There's a reality show coming and everything.  And, yes, the Kardashian clan is spine-shiveringly awful.  However, for Caitlyn to put herself out there so far was really a bold move and should be applauded.

I saw someone mention that we are in a post-Caitlyn world now, which seems hyperbolic, but it's true.  

Before this happened, transgendered people were getting the shit kicked out of them regularly.  Just two years ago, a trans woman was beaten to death right outside of a NYC police station.  The reason these things happen so regularly, I think, is twofold.  For many, understanding what would bring a person to do this to themselves is completely incomprehensible.  And like most things we don't understand, we fear it.  Secondly, seeing an attractive person who is not actually the gender that you're supposed to like makes you feel weird and confused, and rather than deal with that rationally inside, an external attack is made.

Caitlyn put herself out there into that world.  Overnight, the world (for the most part) kind of got it.  The world, or at least our part of it, really did change because of this.

I know people get all pissed off when Caitlyn gets called a hero.  I understand that the men and women who put their lives on the line are a greater level of hero.  But Caitlyn put herself out there into a world of obvious danger for those like her and managed to change the world in doing so, making it a little more understanding.  That's no small feat.

Say hi to the Political/Religious gang for me.  I won't be going in there.
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