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41  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: October 31, 2014, 07:48:04 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on October 31, 2014, 06:40:17 PM

The themes are awesome though.

So worth it.
42  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [movie] Wonder Woman on: October 31, 2014, 11:48:57 AM
Finally. 2017.

According to the article, the plan is for a trilogy.

And, IMO, they are handing WW in exactly the right way.

Movie 1
1st 1/2: Paradise Island with warring factions
Man arrives (not Steve Trevor?)
2nd 1/2: America

Oh, wait I left out the best part.  1920s America.  Women just got the right to vote.

Movie 2
WWII

Movie 3
Modern Day

This lineup handles the inherent awkwardness in trying to adapt Wonder Woman to the times head on.  There will be a lot to mine from that: comedy, drama, character development.  But it also puts the character firmly into the status she deserves.  One where she's more than just a role model, she'll be an icon.  Plus she'll kick ass.

But, really, this will resonate so strongly.  It'll take her from being a warrior at heart to having to live in a suppressed world, then slowly letting the world see that power and potential until it's fully realized.

I couldn't be more impressed that this character who they've been reluctant to handle is getting such a strong treatment.  She's one of the big 3 at DC.  It's about time she got treated as such.
43  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Public speaking on: October 31, 2014, 03:05:08 AM
I've done a lot of corporate events (groups as small as 50 people and as large as 5,000), and I've seen a lot of executive speeches, and I can tell you that not only is moving around something you should do, there are actually people out there who train executives to move around 'naturally" except when it's not natural, they'd probably be better off standing still.
44  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: October 31, 2014, 03:01:43 AM
This rest issue is making the unchanged subject line take on a whole new meaning.
45  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: October 30, 2014, 07:21:23 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on October 30, 2014, 01:03:50 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 29, 2014, 11:15:57 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on October 29, 2014, 04:59:04 PM

It only took me 5 mins to rebuild database. I'll see if it works. I had 3 hangs on wake and that was enough.

I was going to do it, but the PS4 warned me it would take hours.  

You did it through safe mode?

Yes* I got the warning too. Only took 5 mins.

*I did through safe mode.  I think it's the only way you can rebuild the database.

Well, I did it.  It seems the "hours" part comes from having to re-download every game update, but at least it's in menu.

OTOH, I still have the sleep mode issue.
46  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4] Driveclub on: October 30, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
I've honestly stopped caring.

It doesn't sound like a big loss at this point.

However, mercenarily, I hope they offer something to make up for it.
47  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Re: Re: Best Buy Gamers Club Unlocked $30 (normally $120) 20% All Games for 2 Years on: October 30, 2014, 04:14:47 PM

Quote from: Caine on October 30, 2014, 01:47:27 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on October 30, 2014, 12:37:04 PM

I really wanted to stop buying physical media but damn that's a lot of money to be saved. I hate the idea of going all the way across town to Best Buy every time I want a game but 20% is not insignificant.
Consider this the nail in that coffin.  Free shipping over $35 and each game was listed as "expedited shipping" when I preordered.  Also, when I factor in games in 2015, it adds up to a lot more than $140.

And that's not factoring in games in 2016 or the fact that renewing the program seems to only cost $30.
48  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Best Buy Gamers Club Unlocked $30 (normally $120) 20% All Games for 2 Years on: October 30, 2014, 01:07:14 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on October 30, 2014, 12:37:04 PM

I really wanted to stop buying physical media but damn that's a lot of money to be saved. I hate the idea of going all the way across town to Best Buy every time I want a game but 20% is not insignificant.

And having just tried to purchase the digital version of CoD through Best Buy, I can confirm that this deal does not work with digital games (though DLC may be a different story, apparently, according to the guy I spoke with on the phone).
49  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1] Sunset Overdrive (Insomniac's latest) on: October 30, 2014, 11:40:28 AM
I got used to the ammo pretty quickly.  If it weren't there, I think it would be too mindless.  I also think some weapons would never get used.

I'm terrible at this game (as proven by my sole online bout last night), but I'm enjoying the hell out of it.  It's so far from what my pacing usually is that it's kind of refreshing for me.  I'm usually a slow player, pissing out a new environment, finding all of the loot.  In this, there are moments where I may be trying to find loot specifically, but the game is so ADD inducing that I'm often on to something else before I find that loot.

Whipping around the city, I usually avoid the ODs instead of trying to hunt them down.  The weapons I have just aren't strong enough, it seems, to get bogged down in a pile of not-zombies.  This is the one problem in the game for me, because the only way to get stronger weapons is to fight them, and that's slow going in the missions, even adding in the few times I decide to wander into a fight.  During the online session I played, the cans seemed to be flowing all over the place, and I thought, "Ah, this is how they entice you to stay online" but then I still couldn't afford anything.  Anyway, I'm still figuring this part out.

Also, I love my character, but I'm not sure I'm getting what's so fun or special about character creation.  It seems kind of like every other system I've seen.  Is it just the wacky outfit choices?  I'm genuinely asking, because I'm not getting it.
50  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: October 29, 2014, 11:15:57 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on October 29, 2014, 04:59:04 PM

It only took me 5 mins to rebuild database. I'll see if it works. I had 3 hangs on wake and that was enough.

I was going to do it, but the PS4 warned me it would take hours. 

You did it through safe mode?
51  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: October 29, 2014, 12:10:06 PM
I'm having the same issue.

Rebuilding the database is the PS4 version of turning it off and back on again.  It's such a long process that I'm waiting to see what other fixes they come up with first.
52  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: October 28, 2014, 07:03:11 PM
Last week was a stumble in pacing, IMO, but this week was really good.

The Bob story line wasn't filler at all, we need these moments, and I admit to getting a little weepy at one point.

As for the group at the end:

Spoiler for Hiden:
Splitting up also makes it easier to film.  It's very tough to get everyone in wardrobe and makeup for those big group scenes, but more than that, you can get a lot more filmed when you can split up the crew.  Shows like this usually have two filming groups (sometimes more, if it's very successful) and while one is filming one bit, the other can be off filming another at the same time.  This is why with the big group focus just recently, we'll get a big flashback episode next with none of those characters in it (except for at the beginning and end).
53  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] Doctor Strange on: October 28, 2014, 03:08:30 PM
As I say, he's a good choice.  My only hesitation is that he's becoming a little too ubiquitous.
54  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] Doctor Strange on: October 28, 2014, 11:31:27 AM
He's a good choice, of course, but I will miss my image of Jon Hamm.

I wonder if Cumberbatch will be doing an American accent.
55  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: October 27, 2014, 11:42:10 PM

Quote from: Ridah on October 27, 2014, 11:27:31 PM

The worst early adopter experience for me was the 3DS. They drop the price permanently soon after, offer a bunch of crummy games as compensation, then announce the XL.

Wow, the 3DS early adopter bonus sticks out in my mind as one of the best I've ever seen.
56  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Constantine on: October 27, 2014, 10:57:40 PM

Quote from: drifter on October 27, 2014, 09:24:11 PM

The main character is a brit (which just doesn't jive for me)

Wait, what?

Constantine is meant to be a Brit.
57  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] Marvel - Dr. Strange on: October 27, 2014, 10:56:08 PM
http://gamingtrend.com/forums/off-topic/(movie)-doctor-strange/
58  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1] Sunset Overdrive (Insomniac's latest) on: October 27, 2014, 06:57:37 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on October 27, 2014, 03:00:53 PM

The Kotaku review, though giving it a Yes, was pretty scathing of the humor/style of the game and seems to mesh with what I've seen from the previews and people playing on Youtube.  All I can think of is


or


Be curious as to what folks around here think in regards to that aspect of the game.

Eurogamer had similar complaints.

I enjoyed this quote from their review:
Quote
If you wanted to be uncharitable, you could voice the suspicion that a great many baseball caps were turned backwards in the echoing board room where this project was greenlit...

Goes with your pics.
59  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Best Buy Gamers Club Unlocked $30 (normally $120) 20% All Games for 2 Years on: October 27, 2014, 06:47:40 PM

Quote from: Caine on October 27, 2014, 02:57:44 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 27, 2014, 02:55:11 PM

Quote from: Caine on October 27, 2014, 02:38:00 PM

In case you missed it, you also get a $10 gc for each game you pre-order.

I did not know that.  Holy crap!


Quote from: Caine on October 27, 2014, 02:26:33 PM

Worth swapping over from my Amazon pre-orders.  Too bad they didn't extend this through the 11th though.  I wasn't looking at picking up anything until then.

I'm glad I found out about this before Friday, as I just held off on getting Bayonetta 2 until Sunday.
Sorry for getting your hopes up temporarily.  Here's the list.

Ah.  And you get that without GCU, just by being a MyBestBuy member.  Good games on the list, anyway.
60  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Best Buy Gamers Club Unlocked $30 (normally $120) 20% All Games for 2 Years on: October 27, 2014, 02:55:11 PM

Quote from: Caine on October 27, 2014, 02:38:00 PM

In case you missed it, you also get a $10 gc for each game you pre-order.

I did not know that.  Holy crap!


Quote from: Caine on October 27, 2014, 02:26:33 PM

Worth swapping over from my Amazon pre-orders.  Too bad they didn't extend this through the 11th though.  I wasn't looking at picking up anything until then.

I'm glad I found out about this before Friday, as I just held off on getting Bayonetta 2 until Sunday.
61  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (10/27) on: October 27, 2014, 12:08:51 PM
I've got Sunset Overdrive coming through a deal with Microsoft.

I may be getting Singstar to please my kid (it uses cell phones for mics now, which seems really convenient and kind of lame).

I'm waiting for reviews on Lords of the Fallen.  If they're positive, but it's too challenging, I may pass anyway.

Unfinished Swan is great, but I won't get it again (unless it's cross-buy).

But the best deal for me this week was getting Bayonetta 2 for $48 through Gamers Club Unlocked at Best Buy.  GCU is currently only $30 (normally $120) and gets you 20% off all new games (among other things).  It'll nearly pay for itself with my next purchase (Lords of the Fallen?).
62  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Best Buy Gamers Club Unlocked $30 (normally $120) 20% All Games for 2 Years on: October 27, 2014, 11:55:33 AM
This is kind of an incredible deal that almost pays for itself right out of the gate.

You need to purchase a game for $39.99, but then you can get Gamers Club Unlocked for $30.  That's marked down from $120.

This gets you a lot of deals on trading in games and buying used games.  Most importantly, it gives you 20% every new game you buy.  This includes the game you buy to get the deal (at least it did for me).

So if you're buying a $60, you save $12 right away.  Nearly half way to paying it off.

Why wouldn't you do this??

The deal is only in-store and ends Saturday, November 1.


Spoiler for Hiden:
63  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: October 26, 2014, 02:51:30 PM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on October 26, 2014, 03:33:47 AM

System software update v2.00 launches next Tuesday, 28th October.

So, this Tuesday.
64  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: School shooting in Marysville, Washington on: October 24, 2014, 08:23:50 PM
Headline I just saw said one was the suspect.
65  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] The Avengers 2: Age of Ultron on: October 24, 2014, 11:19:40 AM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on October 24, 2014, 02:19:10 AM

This looks to answer the question, "Wouldn't it be awesome if the last hour of Avengers could be the WHOLE movie?"


I can answer that right now: No.

The last hour of the first movie was as awesome as it was because of the first hour of the movie.  Pacing, build, and generating a connection to the characters are what make the end work.

Wedon is all about character development and earning the action, so I don't think this movie will be too different in that regard.  The bigger moments are what trailer well, so that's what you see to entice you to come.
66  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Gamergate - Thoughts on: October 22, 2014, 08:37:28 PM

Quote from: Turtle on October 22, 2014, 07:29:38 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 22, 2014, 11:47:27 AM

None the less, however it started, it is a thing, and it's definitely not over. It's crossing over into mainstream media, in fact.  It's been showing up in my news thread daily for the last week or so, and I've had non-gamers mention it to me recently.

It's not really crossing over, rather, the mainstream media is finally getting around to pick it up.



How is this in any way different?

If it has been picked up by mainstream media, it has crossed over into mainstream media. 

Quote from: Turtle on October 22, 2014, 07:29:38 PM


It won't morph into something better, because the movement is tainted at its core. They're still going after Gawker, for example, when the alleged wrongdoings of that site were proven false. Why? Because it's still associated with the woman that was at the front of it.


It has already started morphing, just by nature of it crossing over into mainstream media.  The focus I keep seeing and hearing about is that women are treated like shit in the gaming industry (I have seen this about both designers and game players).  If attention keeps going toward that and there are changes that result, positive morphing has been achieved.

There are plenty of good things in the world that exist because of terrible, terrible beginnings, but I won't mention any if only to avoid Godwin's Law.
67  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Gamergate - Thoughts on: October 22, 2014, 11:47:27 AM

Quote from: heloder on October 22, 2014, 01:30:39 AM

I cannot even fathom how so many people can care so much about something so obviously fucking contrived and unimportant. I have honestly attempted to read about the topic on Broken Forum and other places and I just can't do it. I can't! My brain just starts rejecting it in the name of self-preservation and I'm compelled to do something—anything—else with my time.

I even avoided this thread.

None the less, however it started, it is a thing, and it's definitely not over. It's crossing over into mainstream media, in fact.  It's been showing up in my news thread daily for the last week or so, and I've had non-gamers mention it to me recently.

It's starting to turn into more than what it is, though, and maybe that's not so bad.  If it mutates into "stop treating women in gaming like shit" and that catches on, I can live with that, despite the eye-rolling beginnings.
68  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1/360] Fantasia: Music Evolved on: October 21, 2014, 10:40:50 PM
Played about to where I got in the demo (though the tunes were different, maybe).

Really great, and there's sonething fantastic about swiping your arms about, conductor-style. It really makes you feel connected to the music. When it works.

I've fiddled with the adjustments, and I can't seem to get the timing right. I'm flailing too quickly or too slowly. It's not a big problem until you get to some speedy ones, but I can see this being an issue down the road.

I feel like Harmonix calibrations are usually more involved.
69  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: October 21, 2014, 11:16:39 AM
I guess I'm in between you two.  I found this one to be uneven.  Some really good parts, but some kind of lame ones, too.  For the record, I like the character development episodes.  However, I usually like them to have a narrative arc, and this episode just felt all over the place.

Also, I couldn't believe fistbump notcop tried to bring fistbumping back again.  Stop trying to make post-apocalyptic fistbumping happen.  It's not going to happen.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Unless Bob found a bottle of scotch and started drinking again, there's no reason for him to wander outside crying other than his being bit. Still, it would have been clearer if they'd showed the bite.  It makes you wonder why they didn't.  Is there a reason or were they just avoiding the obvious shot because it was too obvious?
70  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: SLEATER-KINNEY IS BACK on: October 20, 2014, 08:13:25 PM

Quote from: Eel Snave on October 20, 2014, 07:42:03 PM

Quote from: Scraper on October 20, 2014, 05:58:26 PM

Am I lame for not knowing who they are?

Nahhhh. They were a bit of an acquired taste, but once you've acquired it, boy howdy were/are they awesome.

As Exodor hinted, one of the members is Carrie Brownstein, of Portlandia fame.  So you might know Sleater-Kinney by proxy.  Or something.
71  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (10/20) on: October 20, 2014, 11:27:17 AM
One for each console maker:

Shadow Warrior
Fantasia: Music Evolved
Bayonetta 2


Someday: The Walking Dead: Season 2

I'm also interested in the PS4 PSN stuff this week:

Escape Goat 2
Race the Sun
Fluster Cluck
72  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360,XB1] Forza Horizon 2 on: October 16, 2014, 03:39:03 PM
Just did Train in Vain.  So much better than the Italian airplane race!  That one felt scripted. This one may have been, but it really felt neck and neck.

I got an Epic Finish.
73  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: October 14, 2014, 10:51:00 PM
I loved every one of those, but not as much as seeing "Coral" written out.
74  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Wii U] Bayonetta 2 on: October 14, 2014, 10:44:57 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on October 14, 2014, 09:12:24 PM

I bought a Pro controller when I first got my Wii U and I have regretted it ever since.  I've never used it, lots of games don't support it (or at least didn't) and I find the gamepad to be as comfortable as the Pro controller anyway.

This is me, too.  I find the gamepad to be not only just as functional, it's even more comfortable to hold.
75  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1/360/PS3/PS4/PC]The Evil Within on: October 14, 2014, 10:43:54 PM

Quote from: TiLT on October 14, 2014, 08:34:31 PM

There's quite the variation in review scores for this. It looks like I game I could potentially enjoy (in small doses. I don't handle adrenaline well), but Jim Sterling's review worries me. He's a very smart guy, and he points out that the game routinely tells you to make decisions without giving you any information with which to base those decisions on, and that's front and center among things that constitute bad game design. Games like XCOM show us that making hard choices can be extremely rewarding, but such games also give us enough information to make an educated choice where we aren't surprised by the consequences (and if we are, it's our own fault). It sounds like The Evil Within tells you to make choices blind and then punishes you heavily for making the wrong one. That's not rewarding. That's just frustrating.

Some of it depends on how long the reload time is and what your tolerance is for being negatively rewarded with a grisly death.  There is some entertainment to be had in making the wrong choice and seeing something over-the-top ridiculous then reloading quickly to make a different choice.

However, that does screw up the narrative flow a lot (and cheapens the threat level, of course).  And if all of the gameplay is based on those types of actions, that won't be very fun.

I haven't played very long so far (maybe forty five minutes), and I've died numerous times.  Sometimes doing the exact same, stupid thing until I figured out what I was meant to do.  Each of those became far less frustrating in retrospect.  The other deaths were hilarious.  I mean terrifying.
76  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alien: Isolation announced - kinda looks good? on: October 14, 2014, 10:37:26 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on October 13, 2014, 03:06:08 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 13, 2014, 02:00:02 PM

Quote from: Clanwolfer on October 13, 2014, 03:14:30 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on October 13, 2014, 12:48:15 AM

This damn game scares me too much to play for more than like 10 mins.

Yeah, I just decided to get in one last session before bed... figured I'd play 15-20 minutes, and managed about that. The thing that really gets me (since I'm playing first-time on the Rift) is just how present they try to make you in the world - little touches like your head bumping those lights hanging in vents. Apparently if you're in a locker hiding, and you move your head into it while peeking, you can bump it and attract unwelcome attention, which is an almost unwelcome attention to detail.

Spoiler for Hiden:
I started just a few minutes shy of meeting Axel for the first time, and played until the sequence when he departed. I don't honestly know if the Alien was around while I was waiting for the transit tram, but as soon as I hit the button and the music changed, I picked about the worst hiding spot (crouching at the crate right by the tram), and only realized how awful it was when I was seeing how much light there was in that one spot. I don't honestly know if the Alien is actually hunting you during that scene, or if it's just dramatic scene-setting... but my heart rate was up higher than it's been in a long time. I was just crouching there, watching the flickering lights and moving smoke/fog, peeking and peeking as much as I dared (and the Rift setting doesn't seem to let you do that with the controller - if you want to peek around the corner, you're doing it by moving your head. I honestly cannot remember a more legitimately fearful moment I've had in gaming. Frankly, the farther I get, the more terrified I get of my first inevitable death - I honestly don't know if I'll be able to keep playing in VR if it's going to stay like that. I'm sort of hoping that dying a few times gets me somewhat used to it, instead of making me 'nope' out so hard I go back to the monitor.

Weirdly, during that segment I just kept wondering if I was supposed to be scared.  I don't mean in the puff-up-my-chest manly way, but honestly, I wasn't sure.  I didn't see anything that indicated something scary was supposed to be happening.

Of course, one of my constant problems in gaming is that I'm forever looking for collectibles, and so I'm frequently looking the wrong way when something I'm supposed to notice happens.  I'll hear a music sting while I'm looking at some boxes and whip the right stick around saying, "What did I miss??"

I thought that moment was specifically designed to scare the crap out of you and keep you peeking over cover to see if anything was coming.


Maybe it was, but without seeing any sort of visible cue (even something like a shadow) or something more than the music speeding up, I wasn't feeling it.

As I say, it's possible (even probable) that I missed something, but it still didn't do much but make me feel like I was taking a regular subway ride, intensely.
77  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: XB1 game preorders $15 back on: October 14, 2014, 10:33:37 PM
I was actually planning on getting Sunset Overdrive digitally until I saw this deal.

Probably would have done the same for Halo: MCC if the option had been available.
78  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: October 14, 2014, 12:09:51 PM

Quote from: Lee on October 14, 2014, 11:32:16 AM

I don't think Terminus is wrapped up, the leader that Rick wanted to kill was still left.

True, and he'll be back, but Terminus itself is decidedly wrapped up.

Terminus itself is what had been built up fairly relentlessly nearly every episode, not any specific character (except for one foreshadow of Denise Crosby that was only apparent afterward).
79  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: October 14, 2014, 11:27:02 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on October 13, 2014, 09:47:15 PM

Agree that the episode was firing on all cylinders. Glad to have TWD back, and equally glad that they didn't stretch out the Terminus story arc any farther. The whole cannibal culture conceit was a bit of a stretch IMO, in spite of the "Then" scenes that tried to justify it. It was OK, just glad they didn't dwell on it any longer than they did.

My only gripe (minor) with the episode was how quickly Terminus got wrapped up, but you make a good point.  It's a big leap from hippy dippy revenge to hey, let's eat people.  But the whole half season last year was building up to the place.  I was expecting more.

None the less, that was a great episode.

As for post credits, my DVR cut it off early (just as the person started turning around).  Did they reveal who that was?
80  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC/XB1/360/Ps3/Ps4] Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor on: October 13, 2014, 10:32:08 PM
Yeah, I have found the nemesis system to be constantly churning out memorable characters.  No one has quite matched Rash the Poet, but there have been quite a few that have stood out in their own, unique way. 

I have found the nemesis system to be the core hook of this game, in fact.  The rest of the gameplay is good, but I am all about going after that son of a bitch who killed me or feeling my heart sink when someone else who killed me shows up right when I'm about to take out a lower tiered guy.

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