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161  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: RIP - David Bowie on: January 11, 2016, 02:03:38 PM
Yeah, I had to drive my kid to school this morning.  As usual, I had to wait for her.  I turned on the car and "TVC15" was blasting out of the radio.  I was happily rocking out, and then the DJ came on to deliver the unbelievable news.  Hit me right in the chest.  I was devastated.

EDIT: I just discovered that the B-Side to the "TVC15" single was "We Are the Dead"
162  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: January 10, 2016, 02:02:17 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on January 10, 2016, 01:44:04 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle
Hopefully, we won't be sick of the format and/or grow tired of Star Wars.

Disney doesn't care if you get sick of Star Wars as long as they've hooked your kids. And they don't care if your kids get sick of Star Wars, as long as they've hooked their younger siblings. It's going to be a neverending cycle.  icon_biggrin

I do believe that the more movies they make, the higher the chances of suck. "The new Star Wars movie of year XXXX" will be hit or miss. But that's no different than the current reality - it's just going to be a more frequent debate. And even if us old crotchety fans of the originals don't like the direction it's going, our kids won't know any different. And 30 years from now when we're in the nursing home and they're grown with kids of their own, they'll be reminiscing about how awesome Eps. 7-8-9 were and how the movies of the 2040s suck.

I was including kids and younger kids and grandparents and adults in the "we" - anyone who buys tickets.
163  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: on: January 08, 2016, 03:58:48 PM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on January 08, 2016, 02:48:59 PM

Quote from: TiLT on January 07, 2016, 09:36:26 PM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on January 07, 2016, 03:49:21 PM

But we'll find out in May of next year. smile

I was about to correct you, but then I realized that, holy shit, you're right! biggrin

Star Wars movies are about to start hitting at a much faster clip. That's not a good thing, in my opinion, but if they elevate the quality then I'll find it in my heart to accept it. smile

Much the way Jaws (and later Star Wars itself) changed movies dramatically when they came out, the Marvel films have changed the movie landscape.

Interestingly, they've done it by going back to another type of movie that had a major impact: Serials.   Star Wars and Indiana Jones tapped into this, too.

The Marvel movies have been very successful.  And for the most part, pretty good.  And Disney wants to follow suit with Star Wars.  They have some of the same people involved.  They have a group in charge of the franchise in much the same way Marvel's been doing it.

This could work out very well, but they're using the same recipe with different ingredients.

Marvel had decades of different characters and stories, all with potentially different tone and impact (Ant-Man vs Iron Man, say).  Star Wars really just has the three human characters (and two droids and a wookie) and the one family.  I don't think they'll be going near the prequels.  I don't even think we'll get the Old Republic, as that'll bifurcate the story lines.

So now they have to dip into back story, but Star Wars was all about having a ton of back story that never gets revealed (in the films).  That's part of the fun.  There's certainly a lot to dip into, but not all of it should be.  I'm all for a movie about stealing the Death Star plans (although I specifically remember doing it as Kyle Katarn), but I don't need backstory about Boba Fett.  Let him be mysterious. That's what makes him cool (unless you're starting the movie with a Mandalorian glove clawing at the edge of a Sarlacc pit).  And I don't want to see anyone else playing Han Solo, thank you.

Also, they're trying to establish different tones for the films, and this is problematic.  Star Wars needs to feel like Star Wars.  It's not just about making sure there are droids in it and having a ship that looks vaguely Corellian.  I don't want a heavy drama set in the Star Wars universe or a buddy comedy, either.

None the less, this is what Star Wars has become, so we can only hope they handle it right.  So far, so good, at least.

Expect to see even more studios try to pull off what Marvel has done so incredibly well, too.  If anyone has a chance of replicating it, it's Disney (and not just because they have the same resources available, since they own Marvel). Not every blockbuster that came out since Jaws has been successful, but we're still getting them.  I expect this serial, living universe format to be a thing for years to come.  Hopefully, we won't be sick of the format and/or grow tired of Star Wars.
164  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: January 07, 2016, 02:22:50 PM

Quote from: TiLT on January 07, 2016, 05:59:22 AM

Apparently Andy Serkis confirmed in an interview back in November that Snoke is not Darth Plagueis, though the quote doesn't come directly from his mouth. Take it for what it's worth.

Even if it did, a) what does he know? and 2) Abrams is not above putting out misinformation.
165  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Oculus Rift VR headset on: January 07, 2016, 02:21:08 PM

Quote from: ATB on January 07, 2016, 01:41:55 PM

The Occulus Rift will instill discipline in our children and adults alike. Everyone will know discipline

"We want consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one.' We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else." -Palmer Luckey

I almost posted the Sony quote that this reminded me of, then I realized that this was the Sony quote that this reminded me of.
166  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Oculus Rift VR headset on: January 06, 2016, 10:51:50 PM
They definitely missed the mark.  The price is being reported places that wouldn't ordinarily do so.

Just this afternoon, my wife (who is about as tech-savvy as an octogenarian) informed me that I would not be getting an Oculus Rift for my birthday.

Even if sales are decent, they could have been having so many more.
167  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: January 06, 2016, 09:47:06 PM

Quote from: farley2k on January 06, 2016, 07:10:42 PM

I believe enough sources have indicated Snoke has been around long enough that is kind of kills the threory.

Like what?  I'm genuinely asking.

I don't think any theory can be killed entirely in a series that told us directly that someone killed a person but were fudging it with very shady semantics.
168  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: January 06, 2016, 06:59:42 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on January 06, 2016, 06:56:48 PM

Spoiler for Hiden:
He was redeemed at the end of Jedi, hanging out with his force ghost buddies.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Doesn't mean you can't extract cells from his flesh (if someone stumbled on the funeral pyre, as has been rumored [is it in one of the canon books, even?] and evidenced by the melted helmet) and use them to generate a new being.
169  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: January 06, 2016, 06:38:54 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on January 06, 2016, 03:47:43 PM

Aah, yeah, I forgot about that. 
Spoiler for Hiden:
But of course you can always explain anything away with "Jedi magic" slywink

Spoiler for Hiden:
If only cloning had been pre-established in this universe...
170  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] Doctor Strange on: January 06, 2016, 02:35:02 PM
Pic from the set:

171  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4, XB1, PC] Assassin's Creed Syndicate on: January 06, 2016, 05:48:54 AM
For anyone who has played the Jack the Ripper DLC, can you answer the question of spoilers?  Are there things in the DLC that would tip off some events in the main game?  I'm only about 25% of the way through the main content, but I've always been fascinated by the Ripper.

I did the first Ripper bit, and I have a suspicion about where it's going.  I don't want to taint the main game unnecessarily.
172  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4,XB1,PC] Rebel Galaxy, by ex Diablo/Torchlight devs on: January 05, 2016, 09:15:57 PM

Quote from: Caine on January 05, 2016, 07:40:39 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 05, 2016, 05:48:15 PM

I don't mind missions so much.  It's the freeplay trading I don't enjoy.

If someone assigns me a task of delivering a certain thing to a certain place, that's okay, but if I'm meant to be busy looking at screens to see how many units of space ore I can haul, where I can get it at the cheapest price and where I can sell it for the highest return, I'm out.  That just bores me to tears.  It's even worse if there are no screens and you're just meant to figure it out or remember.

The game does alleviate that free-form trading issue somewhat in that your screen shows you the last price of both in and out of stock goods from the last time you landed there.  There are also beacons you can hack which can give you a full system price update of prices. 

That right there sounds like what I don't want, if a little less cumbersome than some other games.
173  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4,XB1,PC] Rebel Galaxy, by ex Diablo/Torchlight devs on: January 05, 2016, 05:48:15 PM
I don't mind missions so much.  It's the freeplay trading I don't enjoy.

If someone assigns me a task of delivering a certain thing to a certain place, that's okay, but if I'm meant to be busy looking at screens to see how many units of space ore I can haul, where I can get it at the cheapest price and where I can sell it for the highest return, I'm out.  That just bores me to tears.  It's even worse if there are no screens and you're just meant to figure it out or remember.
174  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: January 05, 2016, 04:12:00 PM

Quote from: farley2k on January 05, 2016, 03:14:46 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 05, 2016, 03:05:08 PM

The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise scene from the movie Revenge of the Sith.

It's not buried in some book.  It may seem like some throwaway scene, but they spent 2 minutes on that story.

It may not be greatly remembered, but if it ties into what's happening in the new movies, it will be.

I forgot about that. 

I wonder if they will tie it together, especially since he specifically mentions "meteclorians" which I thought they were kind of trying to ignore.

They can still use it and conveniently gloss over those little SOBs.

Since posting that, I had some thoughts, which aren't cohesive yet, but there may be something to them.

They really did spend an inordinate amount of time on that story.  In a movie that Lucas thought should never sit still, they sat motionless at an opera to tell it.  Why?

Lucas was putting together his own sequel stories, which the Disney crew pulled from (though also ignored substantially, if rumors are to be believed).  What might still be in there?

Spoiler for Hiden:
Could Anakin/Vader at some point have tried to raise his mother?  Or did he try and Ren had to finish what he started?  Could Rey be Shmi Skywalker?  Or at least another uber-powerful offspring of a Shmi that had been raised from the dead?

Alternately, he could have tried to bring Padme back, and Rey could be connected to that, somehow.

These seem pretty far fetched at this point, but maybe they'll seem less so as new info comes out with the new movies.
175  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: January 05, 2016, 03:05:08 PM

Quote from: farley2k on January 05, 2016, 02:05:59 PM

I have read that theory as well and it is fine - for Star Wars nerds - but for the vast majority of people it will mean nothing.  An off hand reference to someone never seen?  Only people who have read the books and dug into the lore will care and even if it is true it really doesn't .... well matter.  He is the bad guy, he needs to be defeated.  It isn't like that really changes if he is X or Lord Voldermort for that matter.

Well actually that is a terrible example because in Harry Potter it did matter a lot who Voldermort was, there was an important back story that was built into the story.   No matter who Snoke turns out to be there isn't an important back story for him outside hardcore fan books. 

The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise scene from the movie Revenge of the Sith.

It's not buried in some book.  It may seem like some throwaway scene, but they spent 2 minutes on that story.

It may not be greatly remembered, but if it ties into what's happening in the new movies, it will be.
176  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: January 05, 2016, 04:52:14 AM

Quote from: RuperT on January 05, 2016, 02:36:56 AM

And... spoiled. 
I knew I was pushin' it.  Should've gone today.   icon_frown

Well, by now, you should already know that his grandfather is Boss Nass and his uncle is Jar Jar.
177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4,XB1,PC] Rebel Galaxy, by ex Diablo/Torchlight devs on: January 04, 2016, 05:31:12 PM
The one thing I don't love about space sims is the trading.  I have never enjoyed the economic game of pick up here, figure out where you'll get the most spacebux, then drop it off there.

How much of that is in this game?
178  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: January 04, 2016, 03:19:42 PM
Yeah, the temper tantrums may be a factor...
179  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Life is Strange on: January 03, 2016, 08:22:18 PM

Quote from: Ridah on January 03, 2016, 07:24:35 PM

I finally got around to finishing the last two episodes after letting them hang for months and wow... what an amazing game. Sprawling RPGs are typically the ones lauded for their character development and story but as far as I'm concerned LiS takes the cake. Has anyone else played through it?

I'm in the same boat as you were.  I'm a little ways through the second to last episode.  I just have to find time to sit down and finish it.  So good, though, with characters I really care about.
180  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] Doctor Strange on: January 03, 2016, 02:28:05 AM

Quote from: Hrothgar on January 02, 2016, 08:24:29 PM

By the hoary hosts of Hoggoth, I can feel the excitement building.

Sorry, looks good.

By the whores hosted by Hrothgar, you're right!

I'm amazed and excited that the cape made the transition to the big screen intact.
181  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] Doctor Strange on: January 02, 2016, 03:42:37 PM

182  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Netflix Instant Watch recommendation thread on: December 28, 2015, 08:14:48 PM
I'm terrified to hear Sandler and Brooks mentioned in the same comment.
183  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: December 22, 2015, 10:50:00 PM
I just shared that Harrison Ford dog on FB. Hilarious.
184  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: December 22, 2015, 04:25:59 PM
I just saw an interesting fan theory on Kylo Ren.

Spoiler for Hiden:
What if Kylo Ren is going to the dark side as an assignment? Like he's been placed on that path by Luke?  To finish what Vader started: Destroying the Empire/First Order/Dark Side?

The best way to solidify his place at the Supreme Ruler's side is to kill someone he loves.  Which brings a lot more to the conversation on the bridge.

It also adds more to Luke going into hiding.
185  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Biggest disappointment/surprise of the year 2015 on: December 22, 2015, 03:36:42 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 22, 2015, 03:02:46 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on December 22, 2015, 02:11:56 PM

Biggest Disappointment: Guitar Hero Live. I was a HUGE fan of music games in the 360 era. I owned and played almost every Guitar Hero and Rock Band title. When music games died, I was still a fan. So when they announced new music games for the next generation of consoles, I was really excited. I went with GH over RB this go-round only because the idea of a new note system intrigued me, and I wanted a new controller which I wasn't going to get with RB.

However, after only a half hour of play I was regretting my purchase. I didn't really get the new system, the soundtrack was terrible, and I just wasn't having any fun. Was it the game's fault? Not totally - the sad fact is I was outgrowing the genre. Didn't have the reflexes, wasn't familiar with the music - it was a stark reminder that I wasn't in my 20s anymore.

Thanks for the reminder on this, I had pretty much blocked it out.  I thought the new system was fun, but the soundtrack was just so, so, so awful.   Definitely #1 on my "disappointing" list.

Thankfully, Little B 6.7 likes playing, so it wasn't a complete waste.

I tried GHL in the store and was instantly turned off.  I knew I was getting Rock Band (which I think still works well, and they plan on improving it every month, also most of my old songs work), and the new mechanics for GHL were just going to mess me up.

The soundtrack had some decent things and some not, but the system for getting them seems awful (here again, RB is improved.  I love the voting system for tracks and taking requests and doing encores is more fun than it should be).

But the nail in the coffin was watching the other members of the band mug the camera with "RAWK!!" expressions followed by utter and complete disappointment when I screwed up.  Boo.  (Of course, RB has announced that a VR mode is coming)
186  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: December 22, 2015, 04:51:44 AM

Quote from: rittchard on December 22, 2015, 12:37:49 AM

Quote from: Gratch on December 21, 2015, 03:00:29 PM

Saw it yesterday, and while I have some nitpicks, I thought it was a fantastic and fun film overall.  A very worthy return for the series.

Bit of advice though, skip the adds nothing and actually makes some of the battle scenes more chaotic than they needed to be.  My second time will definitely be regular 2D.

100% agreement on all the above.  The only good thing about the 3D was I bought 4 collector's 3D glasses   Tongue

Here are my nitpicks/questions/random comments:

Spoiler for Hiden:
1.  Surprised Han Solo's death hasn't been massively leaked yet.  With that said, even more surprised there isn't more talk about whether he is really dead.  In the year of Glenn and Jon Snow, doesn't Han Solo have a chance?  I mean it almost seems too obvious to kill him off after Harrison Ford talking about it during interviews so much.  Not to mention it felt disrespectful and a little mean-spirited to us original fans to not allow the core cast to have a simple one scene reunion.  And I don't mean a Lost-esque "everyone is dead" reunion!!  ...all I'm saying is I didn't see a dead body, so I'm holding out hope that Boba Fett's clone caught him and flew away to deliver his body to Crabba the Mutt.  Or maybe the one that died was a clone and the real one is still stuck in carbonite somewhere. 

2.  Force imbalance.  I think you guys talked about it a bit, but I mean, really, how is it that (even injured) Kylo can't easily take out a couple of kids who have ZERO training in the Force?  Even Luke needed some time before he upgraded to be able to fight.  Not impressed with Kylo as the villain at all.  I guess Gollum has potential but not sure how he's going to hold up in a saber fight.

3.  Speaking of which, LUKE.  Ugh.  Seriously?  He fucks up his nephew's training, and his solution is to become a hermit, hide out in some island, then let out a map of his location, and then let everyone else's lives get fucked in the process of finding it?  Hardly a hero, he might as well converted to the dark side since he's such a major fuck-up.  Not to mention apparently his ability to train really does suck (see #2).


5.  C3PO's red arm!  So random but who cares, I thought it was hilarious.  Especially because someone bought me the Funko Pop version for my birthday and I was like, what's up with this red arm??

All that said, I can't wait to see it again!

Spoiler for Hiden:
1. I really can't believe it's not out there yet.  I know I heard people talking about Vader as Luke's father the next day (actually, I heard a kid who'd read the novelization before the movie, too, but that's another story).  I don't think a giant bird is going to swoop down and rescue Han so he can come back as Solo the Grey, but who knows.  OTOH, Kathleen Kennedy did just say that all of the main cast are back for the next one.  There's still plenty of flashback to cover, if they go that route (I don't love the idea of full scene flashbacks in Star Wars, but I'll go with it), and that would certainly be a way to get the trio together.

2.  Ren is the epitome of giving in to his anger.  He has no control whatsoever.  Additionally, they pretty strongly pointed out how injured he was from Chewie's bolt.   Even though they handled him well, I'm still on the fence about him as the villain.

3.  This is totally in character for Luke, though, unfortunately.  He gets all cocky trying to save everyone before he's really ready and then fucks things up or runs around griping about how he's endangering the mission.

4.  Of course Grunberg is in his best friend JJ's Star Wars movie.  He's his good luck charm.  At one point, I thought he might turn out to be the son of Porkins.

5.  I really hope they never explain the arm.  And that Threepio keeps complaining about it.
187  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/22) on: December 21, 2015, 03:20:08 PM
Someday Trine 3.
188  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: December 21, 2015, 02:13:25 AM
I looked carefully and did not see anything other than TIEs, X-Wings, Transports and Ren's Bird of Prey.

Quote from: Destructor on December 20, 2015, 10:50:52 PM

My random spoilerific thoughts and oddities:

Spoiler for Hiden:
1) Starkiller Base just left a SUN somewhere in the galaxy. Having a sun appear somewhere randomly does Very Bad Things to a system anywhere near where it appears. Just where was the thing destroyed?

2) Why did that one Stormtrooper early on in the movie have an anti-lightsaber weapon on it? I mean, WHY? That's obviously a VERY specialized weapon, and there's like nobody in the entire universe who has one anymore. Suddenly our heroes have Luke's old old Lightsaber (remember, he lost it at the end of SW5 and it's found again? HOW!?) and there's somebody who can properly fight him!

2.5) Then again, if that Stormtrooper had any brains at all, he would've fired his normal blaster a few times, found that our hero couldn't deflect blaster fire (because he's not trained in it), and just kept on firing until said hero stopped moving.

3) There is an ABSOLUTE TON of things that were not explained in this film. Yes, I realize that like 30 years or so have passed, but I'd really love to know what has happened in that time. So much is left unexplained it feels like we're missing an entire prequel movie before this one.

4) This movie really, really copies SW4. I mean just so copies it. And yet...unlike New Star Trek 2 We're Doing Khan Again Because Reasons, it didn't offend me at all. Why is that?

My questions aside, I really enjoyed the film and I SO want to see the sequel start back up Five Minutes Later, and not the usual months or years so between films like usual.
Spoiler for Hiden:

Spoiler for Hiden:
1. They seem to have left a sun close enough to where they took it from.  Of course, they could do something with that if they wanted to, but I imagine making bad things happen do to the Resistance's actions wouldn't be an area where they want to tread.  Bottom line, though, Star Wars is more Space Opera than Science Fiction, so the facts of the matter don't matter.

2. I got the impression that was a weapon with another purpose entirely.  Like mass crowd control or something.  

2.5 And as for shooting him.  You see a dude with a lightsaber, are you going to fire at him just to see if he doesn't know how to use it?

3. There was a ton not explained in the original Star Wars, too.  Part of the point when it started was that you were coming into a universe that was much bigger than you were seeing.

4.  I think the reason the echoes of the previous films aren't annoying is because they do it respectfully, for the most part, and not cheaply (though see my comments on Starkiller Base.  Also, the characters are good and well performed and they bring their own shadings to the proceedings.

As for my comments on the one letdown in an otherwise great film:

Spoiler for Hiden:
I saw it again tonight with my wife and daughter.  I didn't say a word about my opinions.  The first thing out of my wife's mouth was, "Did it have to be another Death Star?  Again?"

She's by no means an uber fan of the series.  None the less, she did like the movie quite a bit and agrees it's on par with the originals.

Have to say, on my second viewing, I enjoyed the movie even more!
189  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: December 20, 2015, 09:52:39 PM

Quote from: Turtle on December 20, 2015, 09:43:30 PM

Spoiler for Hiden:
Well, you can't say that Starkiller base wasn't effective. That one shot knocked out a lot of the Republic fleet and many core worlds from across hyperspace. Not only that, it actually repulsed the usual attack from the Rebels/Resistance, creating a deadly trap for the fighters that came to attack it, requiring multiple infiltrations from Galaxy's Best types to put a crack in the armor, just so that another Galaxy's Best pilot could fly in to destroy it. Most of end was the fighters flying around crying about how well defended that station was.

The next movie will likely be the weakened Republic reeling from an all out assault from the First Order now that its lost most of its fleet. That'd be a great time to start filling in the many gaps hinted at in the movie without needing to read books. Not only does Luke get to explain to Rey, Leia and Poe gets to explain to Finn, meanwhile Finn gets to explain to everyone how things work inside The First Order.

Also, did anyone see any other fighters besides X-Wings? I'd love to see an updated A, Y, or B-Wing. I guess they wanted to keep to New Hope in that regard.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Well, I didn't say it wasn't an effective weapon, just that it wasn't the most effective storytelling bit.  

The change I talked about still would have killed off the pilots on those planets (and could have led to a cool, emotional sequence for the next movie where they tried to recover some of the ships in the dead system), but in a different way.

Just to be clear, I don't think it ruins the movie at all.  It's just that I think there's a brief moment after seeing it in action where you go, "Again??  Oh, well" and then just go along with it.  Whereas something a little different but just as powerful would have avoided that.

I don't even remember TIE Bombers or Advanced.

I'm going again with the family tonight, so I'll keep my eyes peeled.
190  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: December 20, 2015, 09:38:38 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on December 20, 2015, 08:49:34 PM

Spoiler for Hiden:
Just playing Devil's Advocate, but I think one could justify the Starkiller Base due to Kylo Ren. He idolizes Vader so much he may have just wanted to finish the job Vader got stopped twice trying to do. Sort of like how George W. Bush was hell bent on toppling Saddam Hussein to finish the job his father never could.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Maybe, but that probably should have been in the movie.

Also, Ren is already a little too me-too as it is.  It worked for the movie, but this might have been too much.

Finally, I got the impression that Starkiller Base was more of Hux's baby than Ren's.
191  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: December 20, 2015, 06:58:27 PM

Quote from: Jimmy the Fish on December 20, 2015, 06:52:28 PM


Spoiler for Hiden:
The reuse of plot elements and themes from the past movies, there was an article with JJ Abrams, which I can't find right now, where he says the repeating elements was intentional to drive the notion of passing the legacy on to a new generation. I know a fair number of people didn't like it because it invites the criticism that the movie is just a rehash of episode 4, but I think it works and it didn't bother me one bit. Yes, theme are recycled but there's still plenty of new fresh things and by grounding a lot in familiar territory it retains the whole "Star Wars-y" feel that everyone has been longing for since the prequels.

Spoiler for Hiden:
In general, I agree and am even pleased with echoes from the past.  This one element is the the one that stood out as weak.  Mostly that's because the performances and writing evolve the echoed moments beyond just call outs (and the one moments that aren't more than call outs are fun because they're small moments).

Changing Starkiller Base in the way I mentioned would have still been an echo of the past, but it also would have evolved in a way beyond the typical Hollywood sequel adage: More is better.
192  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: December 20, 2015, 06:13:34 PM
Now that just a little time has passed, I had a thought on what I would call the most disappointing aspect of the film.  It's not something that ruins the movie at all, but I suspect everyone collectively thought "You could've done better" then shrugged and went with it.

Below is how they could have done better.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Starkiller Base.

First of all, fantastic name.  A really great nod to the fans that brings a little grin if you're "in the know."  (The only similar moment that was better [not to mention more mainstream] was when Han called out, "Ben!")  And it's fine.  Really, it is.  But I think we were all hoping for not-another-Death-Star.  They can show how much bigger it is.  They can say, "But look!  It destroys five planets at once!  It's Deathier Star!"  But they shouldn't kid themselves.  It's just another Death Star.

But it didn't have to be.

The most interesting aspect of this thing isn't the fact that it dwarfs the original Death Star.  No one cares about that.  Or that it is, to quote the late Billy Mays, "Five times more pahrful."   That's like throwing more villains into sequels.  It's meaningless.   The most interesting part of Starkiller Base is that sun sucking thing.  It's right there in the name.  This giant motherfucker kills stars.

How much more interesting would it be if that was it?  But instead of draining some remote star, the base idled into an inhabited system and drained it of its energy.  You'd still get some amazing visuals of people living their lives only to look up and find death approaching, but it wouldn't be just "What's that?" Kaboom.  You could see a slow chill coming over the planet, watch trees wither in front of your eyes, then see someone's eyes frost over, probably a child before she dropped her stuffed ewok for a lingering shot.

Not only would this set that weapon apart, it would also make it a strong parallel to the fears about what seems to be happening to our own planet.  

You may have been asking yourself what would they be doing with all of that stored energy if they don't destroy planets with it.  It's energy.  They store it, and then use it and sell it to fuel and fund their growing galactic uprising.  Again, parallely.  The bad guys are saying, "Who cares who we're hurting, look at all the money and power we're getting!!"

Politics aside, these fears are in the collective consciousness of our society (either in a conviction that it's happening or at least a "what if they're right" kind of way), and it would have been good storytelling to tap into those fears.  That would have been way more than "Five times more pahrful."

I can't believe no one came up with this in the process of writing this movie.  By which I mean I suspect they actually did come up with exactly that, but some suit decided it needed to be changed.
193  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: December 19, 2015, 07:10:44 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on December 19, 2015, 12:08:50 AM

It was amazing and worth the wait.  Let's get to it shall we?

Spoiler for Hiden:
Rey is.....Luke's kid?  Too many connections.  Dropped off on desert planet.  Good pilot and mechanics.  Looks just like young Leia and Padme.  Had flashbacks when touching the lightsaber?

I actually thought she was gonna be a solo kid too, so that surprised me.

Some fuck face spoiled the Kylo Ren thing for me months ago, really chaps my hide, but I still had fun with it. 

Snoke is who?  Emperor clone?

Han Solo rocked it.  Every line of his was perfect and I am sad that he had to go. 

That's all I can think of for me.  Just really loved it and can't wait to go back!

Spoiler for Hiden:
You're right about too many connections.  I also worry that Finn is force enhanced, explaining why he is the only stormtrooper, apparently in history, to overcome his conditioning.
194  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: December 18, 2015, 08:37:02 PM

Quote from: Jimmy the Fish on December 18, 2015, 06:17:03 PM

Totally agree with your assessment. I saw it last night and holy cow, what a great movie. It's unfortunate but the longer you put off seeing it the greater the chances that the one major plot twist will be spoiled because it WILL be discussed openly as the days and weeks go by. Knowing that twist before seeing it will dampen the impact.

As a Star Wars fanboy, I would rank it below Empire, but above Jedi. Maybe just a hair below A New Hope mainly because of the cultural impact that movie has had since 1977.

A few other thoughts:

-Finally a legit non-princess-y female hero for little girls to look up to. Rey is an awesome character. I am excited to see how she evolves through the trilogy.
-BB-8 really steals most of the scenes it's in. Remarkable that the little droid is so expressive and almost human. Reminds me so much of how people took to R2D2 back in the day.
-Han Solo's dialog is priceless. Harrison Ford really brought it as an actor bringing back the old Solo we all love.
-For me though, my favorite character was surprisingly, Poe Dameron. His piloting surpasses even Anakin's legendary status. Plus, he's such a likable charismatic guy. Oscar Isaacs was an inspired casting choice.
-All I will say about Kylo Ren is that he is a very different kind of villain in the Star Wars universe. Not cookie cutter at all.

I'll be seeing it again Saturday afternoon. Can't wait!

This is pretty close to how I felt, too.

I rank the original SW above Empire, but this movie is still easily #3.  The others are all waaay below this one.

Comments on your thoughts:
-Leia, while technically a princess, was also a pretty tough hero for kids to look up to.  But, yeah, Rey is fucking awesome.
-My fear with BB-8 was that he would be a shadow of the other droids and be a little annoying in a look-how-cute-I-am kind of way, but no, he was great.
-You could feel it in the trailers and it carries into the movie: Harrison Ford is not just playing Harrison Ford here.  He is Han Solo.
-Before this movie, I didn't have much interest in Poe.  He just hasn't gotten much play in trailers and stuff.  But his energy and wit surprised me.  He's really a fantastic character, and I'm looking forward to seeing more.
-I'm still a little on the fence about Ren.  It's the thing I'm least sure about with this movie.  
Spoiler for Hiden:
I was worried from the trailers that he would be kind of a poser moody young person (like Hayden Christensen, maybe), and he was certainly that.  OTOH, I appreciate that they didn't shy away from that aspect of him.  In fact, it's a key part of the character.  And he certainly gets to hated villain status by the end.  I think the Supreme Leader will need to carry the villain weight more than the Emperor did in the first three films.

The only other thing I'm not entirely enamored with is that the visuals have a starkness (it's all cold feeling and pale, even the desert planet) and and emptiness that the original films didn't really have.  There were moments that I think could have used more visual vibrancy.  Although, they certainly deserve to set their own visual mood, so I should probably just let that go.  

I also wonder if there aren't too many "We'll talk about that later" bits.  This certainly feels less stand-alone and more of a larger whole.

Overall, though, I was super-impressed and very pleased.  There was not a single character that wasn't interesting on some level, and some I just loved.  There are certainly no Jar Jars.

Other thoughts:
Spoiler for Hiden:
Threepio's reappearance was just dead-on perfect.  Although his arm is yet another TBD thing.  I kind of hope they never explain it.
The movie does an incredible job of drip-feeding the nostalgia.  It never feels forced, and it always sparks a smile or tear.  Jury's still out, but I think Chewie hugging Leia may have been the biggest surprise tear-jerker.
I just found out Daniel Craig is the stormtrooper who gets mind-tricked.
Man, I hope I get BB-8 for Christmas.
195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Napster Coming to Wii U on: December 16, 2015, 07:51:24 PM
In what seems like a way-too-early April Fools post, but instead highlights just how out of touch Nintendo has become, Napster is coming to Wii U.
196  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: December 16, 2015, 04:02:49 AM
True.  It was only meant as a gentle ribbing.  Not a discouragement.
197  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Wars Episode VII Director Revealed on: December 15, 2015, 10:15:59 PM
No spoiler, but I will say Darth Vader's connection to Luke is rather surprising.
198  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: December 15, 2015, 10:15:06 PM
Hey, waddya know, farley posted something.
199  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Random Youtube Links Part 1: This time it's random Youtube Links (NSFW) on: December 13, 2015, 11:56:26 PM
Lola the Hedgehog Doing Her Sonic Impression
200  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: [3DS] SteamWorld: Heist on: December 10, 2015, 05:26:15 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on December 09, 2015, 11:47:19 PM

It seems to be getting some really good reviews.  Average Metacritic right now is 87 (low of 80), but that's with only 9 reviews in so far.

I agree that I'd rather play games on my PC or WiiU than the 3DS at this point. 

Well, you're in luck because GameRankings lists it as coming for both of those along with the Vita, PS4, Xbone and Mac.
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