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161  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Eurogamer drops review scores on: February 11, 2015, 11:40:37 PM

Quote from: TiLT on February 11, 2015, 09:45:29 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 11, 2015, 08:52:08 PM

However, taking it away would be much worse for the folks who use those sites.  Myself included.  Honestly, if I didn't have an easy way to sort through reviews at this point in my life, I'm sure I'd be spending less money, especially on the smaller games.  And I know I'm not alone.  Following that path, destroying Metacritic won't hurt the big publishers at all, but will have an affect on consumers and the smaller companies, struggling to make it.

No, the effect on consumers would be temporary, if not non-existent. Another site would pop up almost immediately to take its place, and if Metacritic were to fall due to outside pressure, the replacement site(s) would try to avoid Metacritic's mistakes so as not to end up alienating everyone right away.

Metacritic's problem right now is that they refuse to change their system, despite the enormous amounts of criticism they're getting from the people they're aggregating. As far as Metacritic is concerned, their site works perfectly when it clearly doesn't.

You've also got Gamerankings, which does a similar thing to Metacritic and would probably have been just as criticized if they had any actual power any more. I think they're too old to be able to take the throne again though, and the fact that it's part of Gamespot doesn't help their chances in the slightest.

No, the effect on consumers would certainly not be non-existent.  It might be temporary, but if it is, it'll be because something else has risen to take Metacritic's place.  How in any way is that different from where we are now?

If Metacritic failed and GameRankings rose again, square one.

If Metacritic dies due to the fact that no one does review scores any more, then the consumer and small publishers will not be temporarily affected. 

162  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Eurogamer drops review scores on: February 11, 2015, 08:52:08 PM

Quote from: TiLT on February 11, 2015, 07:23:10 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 11, 2015, 05:13:44 PM

We're not taking a defeatist attitude of "Well, the problem can't be fixed, so why fix it."

On the contrary, that's exactly what Gratch did, and specifically what I responded to. As for yourself, you're apparently suggesting that the publishers are the root of the issue. What's your solution to that issue, if I may ask? Shoving the problem one step over doesn't make it less defeatist.


He really didn't, TiLT.

And I don't have a solution, TiLT.  I'm not trying to offer one.  I'm simply pointing out that saying that Metacritic is the problem isn't correct.  If it goes away, the problem will shift to something else.  Taking Metacritic away will create a void to be filled by something else, potentially worse (self generated scoring, for example).

I'm not even saying that big publishers should go away.  I'm actually pretty happy with the content they put out.  I'm just saying Metacritic is a tool they use to keep it all about money and business.  Metacritic isn't the only tool in their box, of course, and if you take it away, they'll shift to something else.  Taking it away will be an inconvenience at best for them.

However, taking it away would be much worse for the folks who use those sites.  Myself included.  Honestly, if I didn't have an easy way to sort through reviews at this point in my life, I'm sure I'd be spending less money, especially on the smaller games.  And I know I'm not alone.  Following that path, destroying Metacritic won't hurt the big publishers at all, but will have an affect on consumers and the smaller companies, struggling to make it.
163  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Marvel Phase 3 Updates on: February 11, 2015, 08:36:01 PM

Quote from: Purge on February 11, 2015, 05:08:13 PM

And Daredevil? Oh, I know, Punisher! Hulk? Perhaps Ghost Rider is the high ground to defend Marvel's movie-making skill? Tongue

All I'm saying that "Make mine Marvel." should be tempered with "... perhaps."  

'Nuff said. slywink

Not a single one of the projects you listed apply, with the possible exception of The Incredible Hulk (though it's unclear if you were talking about the Marvel movie or the Ang Lee one [which was just called "Hulk"]).  I also liked the Incredible Hulk.

Here are the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies:

Phase One
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Avengers
Phase Two
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Phase 3
Captain America: Civil War
Doctor Strange
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Spider-Man
Thor: Ragnarok
Avengers: Infinity War Part I
Black Panther
Captain Marvel
Avengers: Infinity War Part II
Inhumans
164  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Eurogamer drops review scores on: February 11, 2015, 05:13:44 PM

Quote from: TiLT on February 11, 2015, 04:44:12 PM

Quote from: Gratch on February 11, 2015, 03:36:21 PM

You're right, there is no hard evidence that publishers were using a third-party tool as leverage prior to Metacritic.  However, Metacritic launched in 1999.  I'd say that the gaming industry (especially on the business/publishing side) as a whole is vastly different today than it was 15 years ago.

I'm sorry, what I meant to write was "before Metacritic became powerful within gaming", which took quite a few years after its original launch. It's not that many years since Gamerankings was bigger than Metacritic is now.

I wrote my previous post at work while my boss loomed in the background, so I was a bit rushed, hence the poor choice of wording.

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Metascore has been an available tool, so they've used it...but that doesn't mean they won't find something else if/when it's gone.

No offense intended, but that's the kind of defeatist attitude that I will never accept for myself. "It's never going to get better anyway, so why try to work towards change?" is a very, very dangerous line of thinking. While gaming is far from the most serious of things in our lives, it's still serious enough that we've got this forum where a bunch of us has been hanging around for more than 15 years, experiencing our shared hobby together.

Metacritic has hurt the industry in more ways than we realize. In fact, reading the Kotaku articles today, and what developers and previous employees at publishers were saying in it, made me realize that the current Ubisoft way of designing games probably came around because of a need to inflate overall review scores. As the interviewed people themselves point out, things like making games open world instead of level based raises the review scores for the most part. Before Metacritic got huge, we had far fewer review sites around the net, so publishers were less concerned about appealing to the broadest possible reviewer audience than they are now. They did focus on the lowest common consumer denominator though, but that's a different issue and probably more beneficial to gamers anyway.


This is just asinine, Tilt.

Metacritic has not hurt the industry.  Publishers have hurt the industry using Metacritic.  As the hobby has grown into a cash cow, publishers went from being people who cared about gaming to people who cared about the money they could make from gaming.

We're not taking a defeatist attitude of "Well, the problem can't be fixed, so why fix it."  What we are saying is that Metacritic isn't the problem.  You are attempting to cure a symptom, not the disease.

165  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Marvel Phase 3 Updates on: February 11, 2015, 02:33:32 PM

Quote from: Turtle on February 11, 2015, 12:36:44 AM

They need to add a scene back into the Avengers movie where the camera pans over a scene where a bunch of aliens are caught in a web.

Do it, Marvel.

Do it.

I was thinking about this, too.  I know it's too late to add Spidey into AoU, and it depends on the specific deal they have with Sony (how many appearances allowed, etc.), but I fully expect some sort of cameo to be slipped in, even it's just Spidey swinging by in the background of a city street shot.
166  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Eurogamer drops review scores on: February 11, 2015, 02:31:22 PM

Quote from: TiLT on February 11, 2015, 01:28:17 PM

Quote from: Gratch on February 11, 2015, 01:18:18 PM

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Independent studios like Obsidian Entertainment (South Park: The Stick of Truth) and the now-defunct Airtight Games (Murdered: Soul Suspect) are frequently asked to show their Metacritic scores while meeting with publishers about potential deals to make new games
Do you honestly think that publishers haven't evaluated every single aspect of Obsidian's track record (i.e. sales, quality of games, target audience, etc.) prior to meeting with them about a potential game?  That somehow Obsidian's answer to "but how were your Metacritic scores?" is going to be the deciding factor as to whether or not they get published?  Get real.

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Metacritic scores are also tied to bonuses; Obsidian lost out on a cool $1 million because Fallout: New Vegas was one point away from 85, according to sources.56
As has been said before, that's just stupid business on Obsidian's part to have bonuses tied to Metacritic scores as a part of their bonus structure.  I also wonder how prevalent this practice actually is.  Everyone points to this one high profile example, but I haven't heard of it happening much elsewhere.  Regardless, companies are free to negotiate how they get paid, and I'm sure a solution could be found that ties bonuses to a different metric.

You need to read the articles more closely, as both your points are covered in detail. The people Kotaku talked to said that this is a common practice, not at all unique to Obsidian. Furthermore, the Metascore is not used to evaluate the quality of a studio. It's not in the slightest a deciding factor as to whether or not they get published. It's used as an excuse and as leverage to force developers into making shitty deals. Metacritic is a factor that the publisher has WAY more control over than the developer (by merely pushing the game out before the developer feels it's ready, they can keep scores down if that's their intention), but it's still used against the developers.

Having bonuses tied to a different metric would be a godsend. As the articles point out, Metacritic is used as a simple excuse for publishers to pretend to give the developers more money ("Oh, you want more money to develop the game? Well, if you're so sure that it's going to improve the game, then why not tie this to the game's Metacritic score and pay it out as a bonus at the end?") without really having to in most cases.

Honestly, both these points are covered extensively in the articles, and is explained in far more detail than what I did here.

What you seem to be missing, TiLT, is that each of these examples and really everything "damning" that has been brought here against Metacritic should really be pointed at the publishers.  How is it Metacritic's fault that publishers use a site that compiles review scores to do shitty things?  How is it Metacritics fault that bribes for good review scores happen?  

As Gratch said earlier (though he clearly didn't understand you, since he didn't agree with you): "And I'm sure all of these bad behaviors will just disappear if/when Metacritic goes away."  I actually think you missed his point, not the other way around.  The problem is that video gaming has turned into a gazillion dollar industry.  The biggest entertainment industry.  As a result, it's filled with suits.  Suits will do anything to keep the money on the suit side.  Metacritic is a tool.  Normal folks use it to help guide them in gaming choices.  Suits in the gaming industry use it for evil purposes.  If you take that tool away, they will find another tool.  They are those kind of tools, themselves.

You're killing the messenger.  Not the problem.
167  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Eurogamer drops review scores on: February 10, 2015, 09:41:07 PM

Quote from: TiLT on February 10, 2015, 09:20:07 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 10, 2015, 09:15:30 PM

But if I were looking and I saw "wonderpug: 9.5" I would say, "Oh, I usually agree with his opinions.  If he likes it, maybe there's a reason.  Maybe I will, too."  And I'd click through to look at your summary and then figure out if I wanted to read through the whole review.  If I saw the "TiLT: 4.5" I'd remember that TiLT doesn't like anything and take that with a grain of salt.  I'd probably still click through, since it's so low, to see if there was anything I should watch out for.  If there wasn't a score that covered the middle ground, then I might be looking into The Martian more (btw, I have the page pulled up on Amazon now).  

But that's not how Metacritic works. It only lists the site where the review appeared, not who reviewed it. You have no idea whose opinion you're looking at until you actually click your way into that site to check for yourself, if they even list that kind of thing in the first place. The example you quoted refers to people, but it's not representative of what Metacritic is.

Sorry, I guess the meaning got lost in literal limbo.  I was substituting people for the sites as wonderpug was in his analogy.

There are sites I trust.
168  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Eurogamer drops review scores on: February 10, 2015, 09:15:30 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on February 10, 2015, 07:32:48 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on February 10, 2015, 07:25:11 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on February 10, 2015, 06:38:00 PM

I highly recommend reading The Martian by Andy Weir if you like books that I'd rate a 9.5 for various behind the scenes reasons you'll never see.  Do you prefer romance novels, serious ones, or even like sci fi?  Irrelevant.  The question is just whether or not you like 9.5 books.

I'm not sure what your point is.  I can look on Amazon and see that it's a 4.5 star book, and since I do like scifi I'm going to dig more and see if it's worthwhile*.  If it was a 2 star book, I wouldn't bother regardless of any other details since most people clearly don't like it.  

* hypothetically.  I have already read The Martian and it's fantastic.

If The Martian was a game, hordes of people would just see "wonderpug: 9.5" on metacritic and not read anything about why I liked the game so much.  The only other review on metacritic at the time is a 4.5 by TiLT.  Average score 7, so... probably worth skipping for most people.  Why even read the reviews?

If you scrap the numbers, then you have to read the reviews and see that wonderpug loves sci-fi books and TiLT was kicked in the shin by Andy Weir when they were children.

Honestly, I think I have a bigger beef with score aggregation sites than I do with the concept of number scores.  I'd love to see a Rotten Tomatoes style aggregator for gaming, because I find that approach is much more reliable for figuring out if a movie is universally loved or hated, or if it's love/hate and I need dig into reviews to see which side I'd fall on.

But if I were looking and I saw "wonderpug: 9.5" I would say, "Oh, I usually agree with his opinions.  If he likes it, maybe there's a reason.  Maybe I will, too."  And I'd click through to look at your summary and then figure out if I wanted to read through the whole review.  If I saw the "TiLT: 4.5" I'd remember that TiLT doesn't like anything and take that with a grain of salt.  I'd probably still click through, since it's so low, to see if there was anything I should watch out for.  If there wasn't a score that covered the middle ground, then I might be looking into The Martian more (btw, I have the page pulled up on Amazon now).  

As for the effort involved with reading summaries, of course it's not a big deal to read a summary (especially bullet pointed) and then figure out if you want to read the whole review.  What is a big deal is doing that a dozen times over all the reviews.  First, there's the small issue of finding the reviews.  I personally don't want to visit every game news/review site on the internet daily to see what reviews they might have up.  I don't want to bother Googling a game and trawling for the reviews, clicking through to each one, especially for sites that aren't really worth the effort.  What I find incredibly useful is going to a review aggregate site (I use GameRankings), seeing how a game is fairing and seeing who's given what number scores, then clicking through to the ones I'm curious about.  I find this even more useful for older games that slipped by me.

Using this method, I have also discovered new sites that I like to visit now from time to time.  There have been sites that I may have only glanced at initially whose reviews seem to click with me over time and now they are trusted.  I suspect GamingTrend fits that bill for a lot of people, by the way.

Eurogamer is a site I visit most days, so for me, this won't affect them, but if they kill sites like Metacritic or GR, then they are also killing all the little sites that don't get visited daily, and that kind of sucks.
169  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Dear Gamespot, Stop Trying to Make Me Care about Your Host Personalities on: February 10, 2015, 02:52:40 PM
Here she is looking terrified.  Or just looking to the side, really.  I guess she didn't want to mess up her hair.

I should be thankful that she's tried a new look.
170  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: February 10, 2015, 02:38:20 PM

Quote from: rittchard on February 10, 2015, 12:38:14 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 09, 2015, 11:33:08 PM

Quote from: Lee on February 09, 2015, 09:11:05 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 09, 2015, 08:39:34 PM

I can't imagine how it was "lame".

Boring, with needless cameos from past cast members that were silly, an uninteresting story line of watching a character (that they never developed into anything interesting) dying, dragged out for an hour, etc. This is the most wish-washy shows I have ever watched, some great stuff, interrupted with long boring shows with uninspired writing. I just don't care about the characters, I don't find them interesting. They were in the early seasons, there were dynamics between them. Now, I don't know how to describe it, they are just boring and predictable. I want Rick to die at this point, the shows needs to move in a different direction.

Lee, I almost can't respond to this (though obviously I can).

Boring just doesn't seem possible to imagine for me on this one.  The cameos were so far from needless or silly - they were germane to understanding what the other character was going through, which was nuanced and thought-out and so inspired that I honestly can't understand why you're even bothering with the show.  It seems to have moved beyond you.

Have to agree with Bullwinkle, sounds like Lee is mentally done with the show.  Reminds me of a lot of different people reacting to Lost at certain points in the show.  They shifted from avid fans to haters and it seemed like nothing the writers did could change the course.  The fact is it's always easy to poke holes and find things to dislike if that's the mental space you approach it.  I'm actually starting to picture Lee as Jebediah Atkinson lol:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/603074

Anyway back to the ep, I also have to agree that the cameos were excellent, though I think one cameo I would have liked to have seen would be his girlfriend from the prison.  Also maybe Herschel would have had more emotional impact for the fans.

Herschel wouldn't have as much emotional impact for Tyrese, though.  All those other people were weighing on him for various reasons (though the Governor was maybe a little fan service).  The girlfriend would have been good, though.  Maybe he didn't feel guilt over her or maybe since he'd forgiven Carol that bit was closed for him or maybe the actress wasn't available.
171  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: February 09, 2015, 11:33:08 PM

Quote from: Lee on February 09, 2015, 09:11:05 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 09, 2015, 08:39:34 PM

I can't imagine how it was "lame".

Boring, with needless cameos from past cast members that were silly, an uninteresting story line of watching a character (that they never developed into anything interesting) dying, dragged out for an hour, etc. This is the most wish-washy shows I have ever watched, some great stuff, interrupted with long boring shows with uninspired writing. I just don't care about the characters, I don't find them interesting. They were in the early seasons, there were dynamics between them. Now, I don't know how to describe it, they are just boring and predictable. I want Rick to die at this point, the shows needs to move in a different direction.

Lee, I almost can't respond to this (though obviously I can).

Boring just doesn't seem possible to imagine for me on this one.  The cameos were so far from needless or silly - they were germane to understanding what the other character was going through, which was nuanced and thought-out and so inspired that I honestly can't understand why you're even bothering with the show.  It seems to have moved beyond you.
172  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: February 09, 2015, 11:27:33 PM

Quote from: rittchard on February 09, 2015, 09:14:34 PM

I read an interview from the writer saying he thought this ep was "like a poem" and would either be a fan favorite or a most-hated episode depending on the person, so that seems to be playing out from the feedback I've been hearing.  Personally I thought it was extremely well put together artistically, but in spite of understanding the themes they were driving at, I was not a fan of the plot outcome and how they arrived at it.

Spoiler for Hiden:
For Tyrese to go out being bitten by a stupid little mini twin zombie was just kind of disappointing.  I get the whole "giving up" and "being done" motif, but there had to be a better way to set it up.  Not to mention he was just reunited with his sister, who just lost someone else she loved, so it's quite a disservice to her for him to just give up at this juncture.  The implication is that he's more or less committing suicide which just doesn't feel consistent with the character.  


P.S.  That link leads me to some Netflix show with two ladies tied up  eek

I think this is where it was supposed to go:

http://io9.com/the-walking-deads-never-been-more-devastating-than-it-1684666091



Oops.  That link was for Danger 5, which is hilarious and recommended, but that particular image had to be off-putting.  Fixed in the post.
173  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: February 09, 2015, 08:39:34 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think this was one of TWD's better episodes.  I can't imagine how it was "lame".

This I09 article summed it up well, I think: The Walking Dead's Never Been More Devastating Than It Was Last Night

They even got teary eyed at the exact moment I did.   I think the beautiful long shot helped with that.
174  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I took a wrong turn and ended... on: February 09, 2015, 06:01:25 PM

Quote from: Starshift on February 09, 2015, 04:51:27 PM

Bullwinkle - Purge!  Thanks!

Good to be back.  If you guys are on PSN please send me an invite!

Thanks!

Already sent.
175  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: February 09, 2015, 04:53:20 PM
Aw, I liked this one a lot. 

There was kind of a neat stream of consciousness thing going on.  The weird series of shots at the beginning paid off at the end.

Spoiler for Hiden:
And I loved the fact that the opening shot of the shovel in the dirt turned out not to be for Beth at all.  Though I must say, I was surprised to find myself tearing up a little.  I knew I liked Tyrese, but I guess I liked him more than I thought. 

This was a simple story with some real consequences. 

The only issue I had, really, was going from "It's a long trip to Richmond" to "Well, here we are in Richmond" with nothing in between.
176  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I took a wrong turn and ended... on: February 09, 2015, 04:46:26 PM
Shifty!!

I missed you, buddy.
177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS+ Feb Games! Great Month on: February 09, 2015, 04:40:45 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on February 09, 2015, 03:07:33 AM

Quote from: Starshift on February 09, 2015, 01:49:12 AM

Quick question for you guys.  If I join PS+ this month do I qualify for these free games even if I sign up on the last day of the month?  Or do you have to have been a Plus member for sometime?

Thanks!

Yep, you can join PS+ any time during the month and get the free games.  You just need to subscribe and "buy" the current free set before the current games go away and are replaced with a new batch. 

It's kind of dumb that you have to manually get the games or it doesn't count, but that's how the system works.  I'm sure it saves them tons of money in the long run.

Weren't they going to add a kind of "add to library" feature to make that process easier?
178  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (2/10) on: February 09, 2015, 04:38:59 PM
My new 3DS is already pre-ordered at Best Buy (and I have a new microSD card ready to go).  I'm a little concerned that the transfer might take days...

I'll likely be getting Majora's Mask with that.  I've never played that one.  The concept of it is a little off-putting, honestly (replaying over and over) but I do like Zelda in general.

Evolve.  I'm not pre-ordering, but I might pick it up.  It depends on reviews more than anything.  Left4Dead is one of the few full MP games that I've enjoyed (Titanfall was the other one that clicked with me), and I think the concept is cool.
179  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Marvel + Netflix = Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Jessic Jones, Defenders on: February 05, 2015, 12:31:36 PM
It looks decent, but am I the only one that's hoping the suit is a prototype outfit?
180  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (2/03) on: February 02, 2015, 02:22:28 PM
Apotheon is free for PS+, so definitely that.

And they released the Xbone freebie early (last week), so I already picked up #IDARB.  If you have someone to play with, I highly recommend giving it a go.  It's pretty cool.
181  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: on: January 31, 2015, 12:34:28 AM

Quote from: Xmann on January 31, 2015, 12:28:04 AM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on January 30, 2015, 11:11:31 PM

Quote from: Xmann on January 30, 2015, 10:57:30 PM

OK, all games are working.... except the virtual purchases.

I have them downloaded, but when I access the thumb drive, I get the no data found.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Go into the PS4 settings and under PSN I think make sure to set the system as primary PS4.


I did that already. That was the only way I could download them. They are downloaded, just can't get the game saves and data off thumb drive

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

You might also have to "Restore Licenses" in the Settings.
182  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: January 30, 2015, 12:24:40 PM
I haven't had saves in the cloud on the PS4 for months. 

I have a long list of saves trying to upload with a marker telling me online storage is full.

It's ridiculous. 
183  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 4 on: January 30, 2015, 12:25:55 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on January 30, 2015, 12:21:59 AM

Whether they respawn or not is irrelevant. You will be attacked by wild animals:

- Whenever you need to be stealthy
- Whenever you only have one bar of health
- Whenever you barely survive a vicious shootout
- Whenever you've almost beat that mission that took you five tries
- Whenever you are on fire
- Whenever you are swimming
- Whenever you are sprinting
- Whenever you are running
- Whenever you take a breath in real life because the developers are sadistic assholes who enjoy tormenting their customers

Really, your only escape is to get in a vehicle.  However, then you'll have to listen to Rabi Ray Rana.  Honestly, getting eaten by an eagle may be a better deal.
184  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (1/27) on: January 29, 2015, 01:49:28 PM

Quote from: EddieA on January 29, 2015, 11:26:06 AM

In addition to Grim Fandango, a few other HD remasters are out this week - Indigo Prophecy and Heroes of Might & Magic III are both out now on Steam.

And iOS.
185  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC/360/XB1/Ps3/Ps4] Dying Light on: January 28, 2015, 09:03:23 PM
Destructoid has the first main stream review I've seen.

They gave it a 7/10, but there words seem to go with a higher score.

They start by saying:

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As you may have heard, we got our Dying Light review code pretty late. As in, the day before launch. A late show doesn't necessarily instill confidence in a project, especially since a lot of fans had no idea what to expect from Techland's latest.

It's strange that this situation even happened considering Dying Light is one of Techland's best games outside of Call of Juarez: Gunslinger.

And wrap it up with:

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Dying Light often boils down to "Zombies: The Videogame," but it's fun to flip around like a ninja and cause havoc while you shuffle from one mission to the next. For many of you out there, that's basically all you'll need.
186  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Ghostbusters Movie in the Works on: January 28, 2015, 05:48:26 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on January 28, 2015, 05:00:15 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on January 28, 2015, 04:30:43 AM

Videos NSFW

Leslie Jones standup - heavy on the screaming

Yikes, not a fan of that. 

Yeah, she's been...I don't know if "reigning it in" is the right phrase, but "putting that energy to better use" at least.  With a good director in the right role, she could be great.  I think this might be it.
187  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Ghostbusters Movie in the Works on: January 28, 2015, 01:54:03 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on January 28, 2015, 01:26:15 PM

Leslie Jones and Kate McKinnon are two of the best things about the new SNL cast, so I'm very happy. Leslie Jones is so good, in fact, that she started out as an extremely minor bit player (I think it was just one Weekend Update cameo) and was such a hit they promoted her to feature cast member.

I'm not really crazy about the idea of them putting the Ghostbusters name on this, however. I really hate Paul Feig's take that this should not reference the original movies/original movie universe. Then why steal the name? If you're not going to pay homage to the originals, then your blatant cash grab is even more blatant.

I'll try to keep an open mind, though. Those are four of the funniest ladies in the business right now.



He's backed down from that a little.

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"We're not recreating the old movie but we want to do just enough fun nods that the fans will go, 'Oh, okay, they're acknowledging that the other movie existed,'" explained Feig.

And on the subject of parodies: "I like to watch parodies, but I don't want to do them because they're too referential. Comedy that's too referential has such a short shelf life, whereas comedy that's based around characters will be relatable 2000 years from now because people won't change that much."

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I would have liked a more direct link to the old movies, too, and hopefully it won't be a total reboot.  It seems like it would be odd to not have this be in the same world.
188  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Ghostbusters Movie in the Works on: January 28, 2015, 01:22:04 PM
Here's some Kate McKinnon on SNL: http://www.ifc.com/shows/comedy-bang-bang/blog/2014/06/kate-mckinnon-funniest-videos

Also, a killer Bieber: http://www.hulu.com/watch/585256 start_time=159

She will likely be playing someone who is a little off, but whether she's going to be more Egon or Keymaster remains to be seen.

Here's the thing about Leslie Jones, though.  She's still so new on SNL, that you can't really find a lot of stuff with her apart from update bits where she's just doing slight variations on her stand up.  I had actually dismissed her at the beginning, for the most part.  But over time, she's actually developed a bit of a character in those bits.  Not a full-on "character," but she has a more consistent through-line in them.  She's developing a heightened form of herself.  Then, seemingly all of a sudden, they started using her in sketches.  In a very small way at first, but it's been happening more and more, because she's becoming a bit of a utility player.  Someone you can pop into a sketch and heighten it.  And she's been getting laughs in sketches that are otherwise week.  It's pretty impressive, and she's definitely grown on me to the point where I look forward to seeing her.

I don't mean to say she's some comedy mastermind or akin to other great SNL utility players like Farrel or Hartman.  I honestly think she just stumbles into the funny.  But she's got a very different energy than anything out there.  Or really, anything out there in comedy.  What she does and who she seems to be are definitely out there in the real world.  I have run into plenty of Leslie Jones types in the world, and it's nice to see them represented.
189  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Ghostbusters Movie in the Works on: January 28, 2015, 12:06:23 AM


Kristen Wiig, Leslie Jones, Melissa McCarthy, and Kate McKinnon

This is an awesome cast.

Leslie Jones is kind of out of left field.  She's a beast of a woman and kind of uniquely hilarious.  To me, she's an inspired choice.

I love all of these women, though.
190  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (1/27) on: January 27, 2015, 04:48:16 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 26, 2015, 12:37:10 PM

Teslagrad is also coming to PS4 this week, apparently.  I've played it on the Wii U, and it's pretty damned great, so keep your eye on that.

Also, Unmechanical, which I tried on iOS and thought was okay.

Life is Strange looks pretty cool, but I'll wait to hear.

Dying Light I'll wait or reviews before getting, but I hope it's good.

Grim Fandango is definite.  Excited to give it another go.

Rumor is Teslagrad got bumped to some nebulous future time.
191  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [teaser trailer] Fantastic 4 on: January 27, 2015, 04:42:09 PM
Same.
192  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC/360/XB1/Ps3/Ps4] Dying Light on: January 27, 2015, 03:31:27 PM

Quote from: Teggy on January 27, 2015, 03:15:48 PM

This kind of shady review policy is disappointing. I definitely won't be pre-ordering any new IP without reviews and only select existing ones (I need Uncharted day 1, shame on me if it is bad). Unfortunately, I don't think this board is indicative of the larger population of gamers. Hopefully some have started to see the light after last year.

Yeah, hopefully it's not a dying light.
193  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC/360/XB1/Ps3/Ps4] Dying Light on: January 27, 2015, 02:35:40 PM
I didn't even like the first part of Dead Island.  I really only liked the trailer.

What's even worse here is that apparently Techland made some sort of big stink a while back about not having an embargo for this game.  Well, technically they didn't have an embargo.  They just didn't let the reviewers play it until the last minute.
194  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: January 26, 2015, 10:03:08 PM
Someone a little bored at work?
195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (1/27) on: January 26, 2015, 12:37:10 PM
Teslagrad is also coming to PS4 this week, apparently.  I've played it on the Wii U, and it's pretty damned great, so keep your eye on that.

Also, Unmechanical, which I tried on iOS and thought was okay.

Life is Strange looks pretty cool, but I'll wait to hear.

Dying Light I'll wait or reviews before getting, but I hope it's good.

Grim Fandango is definite.  Excited to give it another go.
196  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: Leo's fortune on iOS. on: January 25, 2015, 11:39:52 PM
Just to clarify, I've got no problem with a mustache on Ron Swanson.  It's odd on an anthropomorphic ball of green fuzz.
197  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3,360,PS4,XB1,PC] Grand Theft Auto V on: January 24, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
Elders Play GTA V

Both hilarious and fascinating.
198  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: Leo's fortune on iOS. on: January 24, 2015, 03:38:25 PM
I have played this, and it's good.

There's something I find off-putting about the character, though.  I think it's the mustache.
199  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 4 on: January 24, 2015, 12:59:50 AM

Quote from: Teggy on January 24, 2015, 12:20:25 AM

No way, he's great. If you can't laugh at jokes about taking a dump, what can you laugh at?

It's not really the subject matter so much as the delivery.  He's terrible.
200  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 4 on: January 23, 2015, 11:38:19 PM
I'm back into playing this after a little break.  I really like the game, but it's going to have to be played in short bursts for one reason alone: Rabi Ray Rana.  That fucking Radio Free Kyrat DJ.

I find every goddamned thing he says annoying as living hell.  It was bad enough when he was just on the radio, but then he starts giving you missions, and he does this thing that he clearly finds funny and charming but is really just more face-punch fodder.  He finishes giving you the mission over the walkie and then rambles for ten minutes about literally nothing. And then he makes a joke about how he's doing that thing again where he rambles and the whole time he's being "charmingly apologetic" you're screaming at the TV and telling him to shut. the. fuck. up.

One time it was something about assholes.  It wasn't about people who are assholes, but actual assholes.  He has also paid me a complement where he has wished for the sun to shine on my asshole.  What the fuck is his deal with assholes?  I don't like to really think about them at the best of times, but this douchebag is squeezing them into compliments where they just don't fit.

Honestly, he makes it really hard to keep playing.  One of these days I may have to shove a radio up his asshole and see how he feels about them then.
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