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14681  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tank Beat? on: June 05, 2007, 03:16:56 AM
If anyone else is curious, the Gamespot review is out.  3.8!  They say:
Don't bother playing Tank Beat.
The Good: You can take on up to four players via Nintendo Wi-Fi....
The Bad: ...though there is almost no one online to play with; simple gameplay gets old in about two seconds; poor implementation of pathing mechanisms.

They even start the review with:
Tank Beat isn't much fun.

14682  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Car porn (Forza 2) on: June 05, 2007, 03:13:07 AM
I've got to say that I'm not really interested in jumping into multiplayer at this point.  I know next to nothing about "racing etiquette," and I'm not really looking to learn.  Add to that supreme suckage and my need to get ahead of the guy in front of me plus the resultant inevitable bumping and/or crashing, and I don't need that kind of pressure while playing a game.
14683  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (6/4) on: June 04, 2007, 11:44:33 PM

Quote from: kronovan on June 04, 2007, 10:57:08 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 04, 2007, 10:49:45 PM

I'm waiting on the Wii version of Tomb Raider: Anniversary.

Has a release date for the Wii version been reported yet?

Still TBA 2007.
14684  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [DS] Time Ace on: June 04, 2007, 11:37:46 PM
According to a post on GameFAQs, it was cancelled.
14685  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mario Party 8 on: June 04, 2007, 10:57:56 PM
My four year old daughter loves it.  It's the first Wii game she's actually pretty good at playing.  I love that you have the choice for simple mini-games.  She won the last time we played (and would have even without the two star handicap I gave her).  She was through the roof.

I also like the board variety this time.  The straight boards are a welcome change, IMO.

Really, very fun, overall.
14686  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re-Visiting Wii Play on: June 04, 2007, 10:53:25 PM
Wii Play is also available used, without the controller, now.  I picked it up a few weeks ago and had a very good time playing with my daughter.  Even played by myself a few times, but its definitely more fun multiplayer.
14687  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [DS] Time Ace on: June 04, 2007, 10:51:00 PM
I just noticed this one last night, myself.  I'm intrigued.  Definitely waiting on reviews, though.
14688  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (6/4) on: June 04, 2007, 10:49:45 PM
Planet Puzzle League is supposed to be great, so I'll get that one and probably the DS Browser.

I may pick up Call of Juarez if the reviews are okay.  I wish someone would get a western FPS right.  No one's done it since LucasArts (although I liked Gun).

I'm waiting on the Wii version of Tomb Raider: Anniversary.
14689  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Tank Beat? on: June 03, 2007, 07:28:59 PM
Any give Tank Beat a try on the DS?  It's real-time strategy with 3D graphics.  Just curious.
14690  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Car porn (Forza 2) on: June 03, 2007, 04:29:03 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on June 03, 2007, 10:08:37 AM

Quote from: Zinfan on June 03, 2007, 07:51:01 AM

Since I don't have a desk nearby to attach it to I got my ironing board out and pressed ( biggrin ) it into service as a stand.  Worked out really well since I could adjust the height to my prefered location and it can be stored away quickly once I'm done racing.  I did have to put a thin book between the clamp and the bottom of the ironing board because the tightening screw on the clamp couldn't get enough grip on the thin surface of the board.


I'm actually considering a wheel now because of this.  The ironing board is in the TV room.  Frequently right next to the couch.  If storage of the wheel weren't a big PIA...of course, I could move the damned Steel Battalion controller from our trunk/coffee table to the basement.  Hmm.  This requires some thought.

How do the pedals fit under the ironing board?
14691  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Shadowrun Impressions on: June 02, 2007, 03:54:28 PM

Quote from: Calvin on June 02, 2007, 02:38:23 PM

Gamespot drops a 6.8 and Eurogamer (one of the few sites I respect) drops a 6? No thanks, no forum effect in the world is going to convince me at this point.

In fairness, though, the Gamespot review seems to have a big problem with improper license use (not letting go, in other words), ending the review with this line:
Perhaps the most telling aspect of Shadowrun comes from WizKids, the maker of the other Shadowrun stuff. When the game was first unveiled last year, it alerted Shadowrun fans that this might not be for them by posting "fair warning, however: Microsoft rewrote the timeline and setting for this game, so it is not in continuity with the tabletop RPG. It may be more accurately described as a game loosely based on Shadowrun."

The Eurogamer review seems more balanced, but it does seem to boil to the game seeming to be overpriced for what you get.  He even ends with:
And while I'm happy I played it, for this price, I probably wouldn't.

But the forum consensus seems to be that the game is a load of fun despite the limited number of maps.  With a game like this, by the time the price comes down to $30, you'll be jumping into a game filled with "experts" who know the nuances of character, tech and map. Is it worth the wait?  Maybe.  I have to say, though, that what should give this game longevity is the incredible balance of play styles they've set up.  There are so many options to choose from, and what the other team chooses and what your team needs will affect what you choose.  Even so, once you think you've got a character down, you'll find a situation where that's proven wrong and you'll have to rethink your standard choices.  That already happened to me.  I was very happy going in as a troll for most of my games, but then I was the focus of attack too often, so I switched to the elf.  Now I'm giving the human a shot.  Or maybe the dwarf.
14692  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ds] etrian odyssey impressions on: June 02, 2007, 03:26:05 PM
I'd like to hear more about people's characters and which skills they're specializing in.  I'm crippled by my fear of heading down the wrong path with that stuff (dumb, I know, but that's me).
14693  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Colin McRae: DiRT [360/PS3/PC] demo on: June 02, 2007, 03:20:21 PM

Quote from: Calvin on June 02, 2007, 01:14:39 AM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on June 02, 2007, 12:26:10 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on June 02, 2007, 12:00:00 AM

Quote from: IkeVandergraaf on June 01, 2007, 09:28:42 PM

First let me preface by saying that I liked the DiRT demo a lot more than the Forza2 demo.  However, the description of the multiplayer leaves me cold.  Forza2 has been ridiculously fun online just because of the sense of racing with other people.  Racing against the clock just doesn't seem as exciting.  Are they doing it this way just for the rally races, or for the buggy races too, which had multiple cars on the track in the demo?

Also, the game looks gorgeous and the racing model seems fine, but does anyone know about the "game"?  Will you get to buy cars, upgrade, tweak or anything like that?  I'm leaning towards buying it when it comes out, but I'm playing a lot of Forza2.

I just got my copy of OXM that has the review of Dirt (9.0) and they said that the multiplayer for this version is limited to the 100-person time trials for rally and hill climb events.  Codemasters hopes to get full competitive online into the next version, apparently.

They say that the career mode is a pyramid series of races where you earn points to advance and cash to buy new cars.  There is also a rally Championship mode "which lets you set up full-bore rallies replete with between-stage repairs".  I'm sure that neither will be to the depth that Forza is, but this is a different type of game.


While I am pretty disappointed about the multiplayer being so limited (I still think its going to be fun), the career sounds just fine to me-its not really appreciably different than a lot of other racers so long as you can buy and tune your cars-getting points for races is just fine. Don't be too upset TML, it still sounds awesome-9.0 baby!

I just wrote in the Forza 2 forum that I'm more of an SP guy, anyway.
14694  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Car porn (Forza 2) on: June 02, 2007, 03:17:42 PM
I tried to join you guys last night, thanks to Ike's invite, but I couldn't get into the race.  It was nice watching you, though.  Worked out for the best, because I had just switched cars in my garage for a race and couldn't get to my very slightly souped VW.  Also, with the fan on, my mike is nothing but an irritant for others, so I had it off.  Not sure why I logged on, actually...

I did race some kids in another online race the other night, and was spanked pretty badly.  I have a hunch I'll be sticking with SP on this one.

I wasn't sure I was liking it at all, but I sat down for a couple of races last night and wound up finishing Proving Grounds  and doing the first set of races on the next level (amateur?).  It was going to be one or two races, and it turned into two and a half hours.
14695  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Shadowrun Impressions on: June 01, 2007, 06:31:46 AM

Quote from: ATB on June 01, 2007, 04:38:28 AM

Got feedback from a friend who I play GOW a lot with. He has it and LOVES it.

He recommend I rent it given the price.


Here's what I'm thinking.  Since it's multiplayer only, they may be waiting until they can experience it full on with others (instead of just LANning within the office) before writing up the review.
14696  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Colin McRae: DiRT [360/PS3/PC] demo on: June 01, 2007, 06:29:15 AM
How do Rally navigators not vomit all over the map?
14697  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [POLL]guides for games on: June 01, 2007, 06:28:35 AM

Quote from: mytocles on June 01, 2007, 05:09:17 AM

Also, as I like to say online, because I have no memory... my laptop has a lot more RAM than I do!  So sometimes I have to look up stuff I really already know, but have no way to dredge it back up into current memory.

This is a major reason I use guides.  I play a lot of games at once.  Many's the time I've gone back to a game and had no recollection of what I was doing next.  A guide is like a really informative bookmark.
14698  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Car porn (Forza 2) on: June 01, 2007, 12:20:32 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on June 01, 2007, 12:03:45 AM

Quote from: Calvin on May 31, 2007, 11:42:32 PM

Eff eff eff. Shit. I am THIS close to buying this game now. Goshdamnit.

Me too.  You bastards are really making me want to go pick this up.  After all, it's still three weeks before DiRT comes out. 

BTW, is there any way to get that Best Buy $10 gift card without printing that thing out?  I don't have a printer at home and my work computer is only hooked into a specialty printer. 

You can use the coupon online.  I think you can use it for in-store pickup, too.

I totally caved and got this, by the way. 
14699  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360]Hour of Victory **demo this coming wednesday** on: May 31, 2007, 07:21:10 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on May 31, 2007, 06:19:19 PM

From Major Nelson site

Demo: Hour of Victory
Name: Hour of Victory Demo
Price: Free
Availability: Not available in Asia
Dash Details: Play the highly anticipated demo for WWII action shooter, Hour of Victory.
Size: 937.6 MB (approx)

Edit: This has been pulled. I'll post another update in a few hours. This should be all set now
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Posted: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:34 PM by Major Nelson | 148 Comments
Filed under: Demo, Marketplace

I saw it had been pulled last night, but I thought it was up again this morning.
14700  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Which $20 XBox 360 game is the best? on: May 31, 2007, 07:19:57 PM

Quote from: IkeVandergraaf on May 31, 2007, 06:41:35 PM

I was looking at the metacritic page for Blitz, and while the average scores were fairly low (69), most of the knocks on the game were that it was an uninspired port, but that it was fun if you hadn't played the original.  Since I never played the original, I just may keep it.  I don't expect there will be much multiplay, but I should be able to squeeze a few nerd points out of it at least.

I went with Blitz for the same reason.  That, and I already had everything else I wanted.  Also, I just found out Circuit City rang my order up wrong, and I saved an extra $13!
14701  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Shadowrun Impressions on: May 31, 2007, 06:27:06 PM

Quote from: hepcat on May 31, 2007, 06:17:05 PM

listen, i got no spine.  it's really quite pathetic, to be honest.  could someone just ORDER me to get the darn game?    icon_biggrin

Get the darn game, you maggot.  Seriously, I just played for about two hours straight and had a complete blast.  This is a very good game.  Figuring out the ins and outs of the play balancing is going to be a lot of fun.  Right now, I go in as a Troll with a mini-gun, taking the gun link as my first tech, then adding teleport, resurrect and or tree of life as situations warrant.  There are needs and uses for everyone and everything, though.  Really amazing game.
14702  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Which $20 XBox 360 game is the best? on: May 31, 2007, 04:02:42 PM
For me, it's between Bomberman, Blitz and Cars.  Blitz seems like the best choice (I know it ain't Bomberman).  What do you guys think?

Thanks for starting this, Ike.
14703  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mario Party 8 on: May 31, 2007, 03:42:38 PM
I've picked up all the previous Gamecube entries, but I rarely actually play them.  If my four year old was a little better at controlling the Wii, I'd jump at this.  She has a hard enough time with Cooking Mama.  Fast-paced mini-games are going to be too much for her, I think.  I'll wait for MP9.  The Wii controls will probably be more all-inclusive by then anyway.
14704  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Mass Effect -- WHEN?!?!?!?!?! on: May 31, 2007, 03:35:41 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on May 31, 2007, 01:34:56 PM

Quote from: Ridah
I'm worried about the frame rate during combat though, it looked a bit choppy. I really hope they do not ruin the game with a poor frame rate...

I had exactly the same reaction when I first saw combat footage from Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire, but those game ran fine upon release.  I agree that a choppy framerate can ruin an otherwise great game, even a turn-based one, so hopefully Bioware will continue the trend and get all their technical issues ironed out before the game ships.

-Autistic Angel

The framerate in KOTOR was not great.  In fact, it was one of the big complaints for most gamers and reviewers.


Quote from: ATB on May 30, 2007, 07:47:22 PM

Quote from: Caine on May 30, 2007, 07:23:32 PM

with so many games to pick up, i've been considering buying them from liongames.  anyone have any experience with them?  it seems a bit odd that they can offer so many games on launch for 20-30 off retail. 

this is going to be an expensive year.

There's a couple of giant threads on re: lion games. He seems legit.
You couldn't link to the thread itself?  Tongue
14705  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Car porn (Forza 2) on: May 31, 2007, 03:31:33 PM

Quote from: Calvin on May 30, 2007, 10:04:33 PM

Quote from: IkeVandergraaf on May 30, 2007, 10:00:46 PM


For my free $20 game I got Blitz The League.  Hey, how bad could it be?  It's got Bill ROmanowski and Lawrence Taylor on the cover.

Impressions later tonight after I've got some time with it (Forza, not Blitz).

Edit:  Also, I'm a little surprised how many people say they're going European.  Maybe I'll take American instead...

LOL. its really that bad. Were there no other choices? Dont open it man, don't do it.

Hey, what are the $20 choices from CC?

I'm starting to become tempted by this, but I'm really not a sim racer.  I'm looking forward to DiRT more.  I'm hopeless with car tweaking, too.  But it's sounding like the campaign might be addictive.

Any non-sim fans able to ring in on this?
14706  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Shadowrun Impressions on: May 31, 2007, 02:50:46 PM

Quote from: juniordan on May 31, 2007, 02:17:42 PM

I am leaning to feeling comfortable telling people it OK to buy this game. Their marketing strategy was horrendous,unless their plan was to use the MaryKay strategy (friend tell a friend) disgust.

The game is fun it will difinatly change the way you play your FPS.
Here is one of my coolest oh shit moments last night. 2 Bot had me cornered and closing in fast I quickly  telaported up to the lvl above x-ray visioned down for a fix on their position. Teleported down behind them and took out one bot. The other must have did the same strategy I did because I could not find him (should have used my X-ray vision now I think about it) All of a sudden I am getting hit with bullets, so I teleported through the nearest wall to get my bearings x-rayed vision to find his position to my surprise he had already revived the other guy I first killed. I forgot you had to finish them off. The game ended with a series telaports, gliding into positions and separating the two and crossing my fingers that the guy I am going after is the one that did the reviving. Because if I took him out the other one will bleed out and die. Lucky for me I got the right guy and destroyed his body. Lots of FUN.

The maps I've been training on seems small but somehow they work out fine. The key is to learn teleporting  gliding and being able to aim on Que. My foot is in my mouth guys, the game is mad fun.

I'm with you.  I think it's okay to say this is pretty damn cool.  I've only worked through the training (about to finish the elf training, in fact).  As you go through, it gets a little overwhelming, but it's going to be a simple matter of figuring out what I like to use best and mostly sticking to it.  Teleporting is damn cool, though, and very useful with x-ray vision.  I may choose the link tech as my third option and play as a troll.  Still deciding. 

I had a similar experience as yours, but the room was filled with enemy bots.  I was using old shooter mentality and tried to duck and shoot on the same level for a while.  That really knocked my health down.  The meter was beeping at me pretty frequently.  Then I switched tactics and began teleporting up, using x-ray, then dropping in behind a bot, taking him out, and popping back up to regroup.  It was a real nail-biter.  I had a sliver of health left when I finally took the last guy down.
14707  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360]Hour of Victory **demo this coming wednesday** on: May 31, 2007, 02:35:29 PM
I was looking forward to this, on the other hand (not sure what the problem is with Midway...I enjoyed the Area 51 demo a lot, and I'm having fun with Mortal Kombat for the Wii, not to mention Unreal Tournament, The Suffering and lots of others).  However, I have to agree it's not very good. 

When you start, you choose from three classes.  In the descriptiona, they're all very different.  I chose the Ranger, because I thought it would be cool to use the grappling hook and move around on the rooftops.  I never found a way to grapple.  Never made it onto a roof.*  The sniper site moved insanely slowly (though changing the sensitivity helped).  Didn't have a problem with FOV, though.

A few other "Huh?" moments: There a random comment to stand still for healing when the screen turns red.  They're being very literal.  You cannot crouch and heal.  I got stuck on nothing one time as a grenade was thrown my way, died, then was taken to the character select screen again.  I went back to a checkpoint that was further back than what I'm sure was the checkpoint.  I thought I'd play as the Commando from that checkpoint, but found I still had the sniper rifle.  I can shoot someone in the elbow with the sniper rifle, and it's like a headshot.  And right before you get to what I thought was the checkpoint, this British bloke starts annoying you by saying, "This way, hurry" every three seconds until you walk through the doorway to trigger the cut scene.

The graphics ain't so hot, either.  The scenery looks okay, but not great.  The characters are very weak.  And the death animations are almost ridiculous.  Sniper shot to the head?  Naturally, they'd launch in the air a few feet clutching their stomach.  Oh, and there are lots of crates (made me miss Old Man Murray).  None the less, graphics can be improved from their state in a demo, so I always look at that stuff with a grain of salt.

Anyway, like metallicorphan, I love me some WWII shooters, but this one's going to have to be very far improvement from what I've seen here to get me to buy it.

*Edit to add: When I thought I was playing the Commando, I finally found one hotspot that let me climb up.  I was more exposed than I had been on the ground.  And the Ranger's amazing jumping ability which is supposed to let me jump from rooftop to rooftop, let me jump on the ground.
14708  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360]Hour of Victory **demo this coming wednesday** on: May 31, 2007, 01:31:26 AM
The demo is up!  Downloading now.

[EDIT] Still downloading at 74% a few hours later.  Ugh.
14709  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [DS] New, FANTASTIC Phantom Hourglass pics [UPDATED! Get in here!] on: May 30, 2007, 06:35:39 PM
14710  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Shadowrun Impressions on: May 30, 2007, 04:38:48 AM
This is reminding me of Iron Phoenix...  Sadly, I jumped the gun on that one before the bad word started spreading.  Multiplayer only and not very good.
14711  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Colin McRae: DiRT [360/PS3/PC] demo on: May 30, 2007, 03:20:58 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on May 30, 2007, 02:44:23 AM

Rally racing typically has people start at staggered intervals so that you're not near other cars.  You race for time.

I really really don't understand why the sport isn't more popular in America, it's so much more fun to watch than NASCAR.  Better crashes, too.

I think you answered that in your own post.  Americans like to see the defeat.  Just beating a number isn't as exciting as watching one car win while the others lose.  Though how racing in a circle for hours on end is interesting to anyone, I'll never know.
14712  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Shadowrun Impressions on: May 30, 2007, 01:21:35 AM

Quote from: ATB on May 30, 2007, 01:11:38 AM

thing that bothers me is there are no reviews up. at all. on release day.

Again, though, it's not release day.  It's ship day.  Still, it is odd and worrying.
14713  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Shadowrun Impressions on: May 29, 2007, 07:11:19 PM
Stores around me (CT) are expecting it tomorrow.  Not surprising, given the holiday yesterday.
14714  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / WarTech: Senko no Ronde? on: May 29, 2007, 06:58:02 PM
Has anyone tried this game?  The reviews are all over the place.
14715  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360]POTC: @ World's End on: May 29, 2007, 05:51:26 PM
If you're like me and want to see what the graphics fuss is all about but don't want to slog through the ugh gameplay, you'll be happy to know that the US demo is finally up on XBLM.

Not as bad as I was expecting.  The fighting is pretty awful, though.  None the less, I love collecting stuff.  I can see getting this when the price drops to $20 or so, but by then the graphics may not seem as sleek.

What's the deal with soul collecting?
14716  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Car porn (Forza 2) on: May 29, 2007, 04:01:16 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on May 25, 2007, 12:01:43 AM

Quote from: PeteRock on May 24, 2007, 08:07:52 PM

I'm not sure when exactly I expected this title to be released, but recently on I noticed a release date of May 29th.   icon_eek  Does anyone know if this date still stands?  If so, I had no idea its release was so soon.  A friend of mine just mentioned a date of the 27th, but to me that sounds like a ship date if release date is the 29th, but if the 27th is in fact correct then I could have the game in my hands even sooner

Any word on what the actual release date is supposed to be?   drool

Considering the 27th is a Sunday and the 29th a Tuesday, I would say the 29th is the date you can probably expect it in stores. 

So, you'll see it on the 30th.
14717  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (5/28) on: May 28, 2007, 07:47:14 PM
Shadowrun, Actraiser and Mario Party almost for sure.  Tank Beat and Crush, if there are any good reviews.  Monster Madness became a no as soon as I played the demo, but good reviews could change that (assuming it meant they'd improved a lot since the demo).
14718  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Colin McRae: DiRT [360/PS3/PC] demo on: May 24, 2007, 06:33:40 PM
Wow, this was a great demo.  Really loved it, for most of the reasons already stated.  I had pretty much decided I was in just from the loading screens, but the handling made it a clincher.  Got my ass handed to me on the dune buggies (or whatever you racing freaks call 'em), but I still loved it.  Oh, and I thought the narrator kid had just the right energy.
14719  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo's Third Quarter Release list - Metroid in August on: May 22, 2007, 05:14:42 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 22, 2007, 03:07:56 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 22, 2007, 02:32:07 PM

That's what you get for reading who wrote the response, ATB.

you're getting predictable - otherwise I might be hurt  Tongue

anyways, has anyone heard anything about the next Madden on the Wii?

I hear it's coming out in 2008.
14720  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360]Hour of Victory on: May 22, 2007, 04:10:16 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 22, 2007, 12:34:07 AM

The whole Alpine bit reminded me alot of Return to Wolfenstein.....

And the guy kept talking about how the developers had come up with these great new ideas!  I mean, it was remarkably similar.  Even the castle on the hill looked the same.  Ridiculous!

None the less, I am looking forward to this game.  You can never have enough good WWII shooters, IMO.
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