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13521  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (1/28) on: January 28, 2008, 03:19:17 PM
Almost for sure Rez, possibly Chessmaster.

I really, really enjoyed Bomberman Land for the DS, so I've been looking forward to the Wii version.  If the DS version isn't just the same game compacted, I'll probably get that, too, but down the road.  I do hope some reviews hit before I just buy it, though.  It was a careful balance of gameplay in the last one, they may not be able to pull it off again.
13522  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLM] Turning Point: Fall of Liberty demo is up! on: January 28, 2008, 01:56:34 AM

Quote from: Jimmy the Fish on January 27, 2008, 11:52:16 PM

Why can't gamers have high expectations? The games market is flooded with countless mediocre titles that can't be returned once opened. If the demo is poor, then I'm not going to lower my standards and waste my money in the hopes that it COULD be decent. If the reviews for this game surprise me, or those brave guinea pigs (like Bullwinkle) who get it have favorable impressions, then I'll reconsider, but just based on this  demo, I think it is perfectly fair to judge it as is in comparison to the many other FPS games available.

But to rank at as the worst piece of awful crap ever?  That seems unfair and unwarranted.

I understand that you have to pick and choose where you spend your gaming dollar.  So do I.  And that's what demos are for.  I'm not saying you need to go and buy Turning Point.  I'm not being a fanboy about the game, either.  But the demo is not the dankest, foulest thing ever to grace XBLM, as some would have you believe.
13523  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLM] Turning Point: Fall of Liberty demo is up! on: January 27, 2008, 07:45:47 PM
Man, are we spoiled.  Not all games are going to look and play like Call of Duty 4.  It's not fair to judge every FPS game that comes out by the incredibly high bar set by the excellent shooters from the end of 2007. 

I understand this is not a AAA title.  It may not even be a single A title.  However, it's not the largest pile of crap ever to stink its way onto the 360.  Play the Hour of Victory demo.  Then give this one a spin again.  They've tossed in atmosphere, story, and scripted elements aplenty.

The guy moves a little slowly.  It doesn't handle as gracefully as Halo 3.  The graphics are closer to first gen 360 (the phrase "Xbox quality" or even "PS2 quality" gets thrown around way too loosely, IMO).  Does any of that drop it down to "Coaster Award" status?  Sheesh.

I'm not saying the game'll be good.  It's a demo, who knows what the full game'll be like.  I'm not saying it'll be worth $60, if that's the price point.  It should probably be $40.  A lot of people may not think of buying it until it's $20.  But the crap being piled onto this little game is unbelievable.

Personally, as we're in the dry, post-Christmas period, I'm looking forward to any game that is half-way decent.  The atmosphere and story could be enough to overcome the standard gameplay for me.  If it can't for you, okay.  But why drag this little game through the mud instead of just saying it's not your style.

Sorry for the rant, but I've been noticing this trend a lot lately, and it's bugging me.
13524  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Questions about buying a PS3 on: January 27, 2008, 06:04:05 PM

Quote from: nymanium on January 27, 2008, 06:48:57 AM

Just wondering does anyone have an 80 gb and have actually had problems playing some ps2 games? Getting a ps3 and I know where I can get a 60 gb new but I got some credit to use at gamestop that would soften the pricetag on a 80gb, and getting a larger hard drive and Motorstorm for the same price is tempting.

And where are you getting this 60GB new? icon_biggrin

Actually, it's way too early for me to buy one, so I'm worried I'm going to miss out on the 60GB model.  It's looking like the 80GB may time out, though.  I'll probably be looking in March.
13525  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Questions about buying a PS3 on: January 26, 2008, 01:06:36 AM

Quote from: KePoW on January 26, 2008, 12:06:19 AM

Quote from: Canuck on January 26, 2008, 12:03:34 AM

Perhaps the best thing to do would be to buy a cheap 40 gig PS3 and a used (or even new) PS2.  The PS2 doesn't take up much space especially compared to the size of today's monsters.  Apparently even the 80 gig HD's are being discontinued (possibly just a rumor) so you might not want to wait a month or two!

yeah, but a PS2 *does* take up another set of inputs on the TV.  so for people without video-switching receivers, it's just another potential hassle

also, you don't get any of the upscaling as with the PS3, which makes PS2 games look noticeably nicer

Also, I have this thing called a wife, who is still being convinced that a PS3 is viable.  Another console on top of that will not work.
13526  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Questions about buying a PS3 on: January 25, 2008, 09:50:30 PM
Now that Blu Ray has pretty much won the format war, I'm thinking about buying a PS3.  I have a couple of questions.

How is the Blu Ray player versus a separate one?  I've never been very fond of using the consoles for movies.  They don't feel dedicated enough.  However, I have heard that the PS3 will update to the latest features easily.  I'm wondering about picture/sound quality and noise level.  Any opinions?

Also, I've never owned a Playstation, and there are some PS2 games I'd like to play.  It seems the quickly becoming standard 40GB is out.  The 80GB has more problems than the 20 or 60GB, but how hard is it to find a 60GB model?  And are there other issues involved with going with a soon to be obsolete version?  BC is a big deal for me, so I doubt I'll be getting the PS3 if the 40GB is the only real option.

All of this probably won't happen for a month or two, but I'd love to get some ideas now.

Thanks, guys.
13527  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Endless Ocean Impressions (Wii) on: January 25, 2008, 06:47:37 PM

Quote from: Lee on January 25, 2008, 05:46:14 PM

Am I the only adult playing this? paranoid

(Without a kid sitting next to me that is.)

I played for quite a while without my kid and will play most of it without her.  I would have bought this back when I didn't have a child, too.
13528  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Burnout Paradise : DEMO IMPRESSIONS! (newfangled poll too!) on: January 25, 2008, 05:31:51 PM
I'm enjoying it a lot until I join a race.  Every time I pull a stupid move right before the finish or head off in the completely wrong direction with no chance of winning.  And every single time I curse the arrogant bonehead who needed to teach us how to race in a seamless world and not put a retry option in.  It seems to me that the whole point of racing is getting familiar with the tracks.  Learning them, so that you avoid the irritating pitfalls that have been set up on them.  Seriously, isn't game racing all about trial and error?
13529  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Endless Ocean Impressions (Wii) on: January 25, 2008, 05:25:10 PM
I played with my four year old last night.  She got very nervous because we got a note about sharks in the area.  I told her they weren't going to hurt us in the game. 

Then I just about shit my pants when a cut scene showed a humpback swimming above me.  I swam around the thing for five minutes oohing and awwing, trying to hitch a ride.  My daughter finally sighed, "Can we go find a shark?"  I guess she wasn't nervous anymore. 

Then we found the deep trench.  Creepy music, too dark.  She got scared, so I started to swim away.  But she said, all excited, "No, let's go down there!"  My daughter, the explorer.  Maybe Dora isn't as annoying as I think she is. 

Anyway, we didn't have the right equipment, so she was sad.  We played for about half an hour, and she loved it.  And she wasn't even swimming.
13530  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Devil May Cry 4 Demo on: January 25, 2008, 01:07:04 AM

Quote from: depward on January 25, 2008, 12:26:44 AM

It's up on the U.S. store...?

Yes.
13531  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Devil May Cry 4 Demo on: January 24, 2008, 10:32:10 PM
I found it under New Arrivals and Demos. 

I've never played DMC before, but I have played similar games.  I can see where no loading would be great.  You'd have to force yourself to stop playing.

I had a lot of fun with the demo.  Looking forward to it.
13532  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Don't forget to d/l Undertow from Marketplace on: January 24, 2008, 07:05:53 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on January 24, 2008, 05:16:31 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 24, 2008, 05:14:01 PM

Quote from: Gratch on January 24, 2008, 12:31:59 PM

Wow, that game blows.  Not even sure it's worth the time it takes for the free download.

I'm sorry you didn't like it, but it certainly doesn't "blow."

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/939205.asp

I'm pretty sure you can think that something sucks even if it's liked by the majority.

True.  It's just the universal statement given as fact versus opinion that brought my response. 
13533  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Don't forget to d/l Undertow from Marketplace on: January 24, 2008, 05:14:01 PM

Quote from: Gratch on January 24, 2008, 12:31:59 PM

Wow, that game blows.  Not even sure it's worth the time it takes for the free download.

I'm sorry you didn't like it, but it certainly doesn't "blow."

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/939205.asp
13534  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLM] Turning Point: Fall of Liberty demo is up! on: January 24, 2008, 12:26:36 AM
I actually enjoyed this.  It's not a hundred percent polished, but I enjoyed the setting tremendously and the triggered actions, running down the skyscraper during the attack.  Very cool.
13535  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Where's the No More Heroes impressions? on: January 23, 2008, 10:18:46 PM
I played the first mission. 

The art style is where the love it/hate it thing comes in, I think.   It's extremely stylized.  It's cel-shaded.  It's also just so...irreverant.  You save by unzipping your pants and going to the bathroom, for example.  Actually, that's the most extreme example. There are also a lot of old-school video game sound effects tossed in.

It's over the top bloody.  Just geysers of the stuff after cleaving people in twain. 

The main character is a bit of an idiot.  There's a lot of pretentious, yet meaningless dialogue (I think that may come from translation).  The dialogue also goes on too long.  There was a conversation with a French lady over a cell phone that comes through the Wiimote speaker (which is pretty cool, IMO), but it went on for minutes and she repeated herself and was redundant and said the same thing over and over.  She was also saying things like, "Now prepare for entering the gates of madness..." when you were about to head poolside.

But the gameplay is incredibly fun.  Really very entertaining.  There's a tutorial early on, but there's not that much to remember.  Then you hack and slash away at a bunch of enemies, hitting the A or B button, holding the remote high or low depending on how they're defending.  Eventually, you wear them down and an arrow appears on the screen.  Swing the wiimote in the direction of the arrow and you cut them in half as they spill blood and money.

It's certainly an odd, entertaining game.  I remember reading one review that talked about showing this game to people when you show off your Wii.  I'm not so sure that NMH is a good choice for that.  I think without playing it, it would be off-putting, but even playing it isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea.
13536  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Burnout Paradise : DEMO IMPRESSIONS! (newfangled poll too!) on: January 23, 2008, 05:01:41 PM

Quote from: The Grue on January 23, 2008, 04:20:15 PM

Can anyone with the 360 version comment on whether the in-game invite system makes you pull up the blade or not?  I liked on the PS3 how everything was in-game, since they don't have an in-game XMB.  I still can't decide which version I want to get.  I keep leaning to the 360 because I have the wireless racing wheel.

None of my friends were playing when I was, but it pretty seamlessly got me online.  There were definitely "Friend" options in-game.
13537  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Don't forget to d/l Undertow from Marketplace on: January 23, 2008, 04:31:42 PM

Quote from: KePoW on January 23, 2008, 04:10:33 PM

I thought I heard somewhere that if you call MS, you can get 800 points instead...anyone know if if that's true, and do they check your account first to see if you already have Undertow?

I posted in the other thread.  That is exactly what went down.  I called MS.  They looked up my account, saw that I had paid for the game already and gave me 800 points.  The whole thing took about fifteen minutes, but they seemed to be just getting used to doing it.  I'm sure it would take even less time at this point.
13538  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Devil May Cry 4 Demo on: January 23, 2008, 04:29:28 PM
The Club is up in the US now, BTW.
13539  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Club - Demo Tomorrow on XBL **BAH Europe and Aus only** on: January 23, 2008, 04:27:03 PM
The demo came onto XBLM in North America yesterday.

I played it last night.  At first I was a little nervous, because I'm a methodical gamer, even in shooters.  I like to search through areas, find the nooks and crannies. The game design here doesn't allow for that. But as I played, I quickly fell into their mindset.  I think it'll be a lot of fun.  The missions are nice and short, so there's a lot of chance for replayability to beat your score or find more hidden targets.  And there seems like there will be a lot to do, though some of it may turn out to be more of the same.  There will be something like 8 - 10 areas, each with half a dozen missions or so and 6 - 8 characters to play through each one.  Is that going to be enough variety?  I don't know.  But this isn't the typical shooter with lengthy, objective based levels.   Sure you're in the same basic local, but you're seeing different sections of it.  And you have different objectives: beat the clock, crank your score, survive...  It's more like a racing game in shooter format.  Which makes sense, given that this is a Bizarre Creations game.  I'm looking forward to it.
13540  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [XBLM] Turning Point: Fall of Liberty demo is up! on: January 23, 2008, 04:19:13 PM
Downloading now.
13541  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Endless Ocean Impressions? (Wii) on: January 23, 2008, 06:54:31 AM
I played this for about a half hour, maybe forty five minutes today.   I poked around two locations.  Found out the first level of info for most of the fish there (and one manta ray).  It's exactly what I was expecting.  Slow paced, awe-inspiring exploration. It's the kind of game you have to be in the mood for (at the wrong time, it'll induce a nap), but if that mood strikes you it's a lot of fun.

The graphics are great, with two caveats.  One, the standard addition of the phrase "...for a Wii game."  Two, the on boat graphics are a little weak.  No one moves their mouths when they talk (which should be forbidden in this day and age, unless you're making a game about Tony and Tia Castaway or some other telepaths).*  And movement is slow and awkward.  But the boat is mostly just an interface, so it probably doesn't matter a lot.

But in the water, the game is pretty beautiful.  And it needs to be, since that sense of wonder in seeing a new location makes up a good chunk of what's compelling about the gameplay.  Finding the manta ray swimming around brought a genuine smile to my face.  It moves very naturally.  All the fish do, really.  And the way the light shines through the crystal blue water is really great.  Even the way the shore looks from under the water is impressive.

I do wish there was more of a story, and maybe there will be as the game progresses.  I also hope there are things other than plants and fish to find, but I'm pretty confident dubloons and shipwrecks await. 

This game is certainly not for everyone.  It'll be too boring or pretty for a lot of gamers.  Personally, I'm looking forward to putting more time in.


*As a side note to the non-moving mouths, everything is in text.  It's already a slow-moving game, and that doesn't help.  Also, it means my four year old can't really play it by herself.

13542  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Burnout Paradise : DEMO IMPRESSIONS! (newfangled poll too!) on: January 23, 2008, 06:39:14 AM

Quote from: gellar on January 23, 2008, 05:47:58 AM

Quote from: Chaz on January 22, 2008, 08:43:40 PM

You'd think they'd at least highlight the preferred route for a particular race.  Put those huge, semi-transparent arrows over any street you shouldn't be going down to show you the intended course.  Then make it so that you can drive right through the arrows and off the course.  Bam, instant compromise between open-world and track racing.  If you want to race the course, you can.  If you know a shortcut, you can take that too.

There actually is a system in place, I have no idea what IGN is talking about.  As you approach an intersection you are probably going to want to turn on, the game makes a beep and flashes the street name on the right or left side of the top HUD to indicate you may want to turn there.  It works and works very well, IMHO.  I've never once looked at a map other than to find a junk yard to swap cars.  Unless you are a retard, you can figure it out pretty quickly based off of the mini map and the indicators.  In short, IGN is dumb.  Shocking.

I don't think IGN is dumb (on this count, anyway).  The system in place is not very effective.  With the engines revving and music blaring, hearing the little beeps can easily be missed.  Add to that the fact that you're in an intense driving game and shouldn't, you know, take your eyes off the road, and maybe small indicators at the top of the HUD isn't the best choice.

So, I caved due to reviews and bought the game.  Played for quite awhile, too.  I spent most of that time just tooling around the city and really began to have a good time trying to find billboards and fences (though I'm not sure how long that'll sustain me).

I tried going seamlessly online, too.  It worked pretty well.  I haphazardly found out that there are challenges being put forth that everyone needs to complete (I missed the indicator due to that whole not-taking-eyes-off-the-road thing).  Things like Hey, everyone smash a billboard!  There are also indicators of whose done the best job driving into oncoming traffic.  There are races with other players that come up, too, but I have absolutely no idea how I was supposed to start such a race.  I still managed to have fun, even when a guy with a car that was clearly a tank compared to mine started taking me down.  At first, I grinned at the Rival aspect and started hunting him down.  I rammed into him a few times, but he kept taking me down.  I only had one car unlocked.  I was a little frustrated that they even let me compete with a guy who was in a superior vehicle, but I decided to try a couple of races for the heck of it.

I pulled up to a traffic signal, not knowing what kind of challenge I'd get, but knowing I didn't want to hunt and peck for a particular one.  It was a long race.  I came in second.  I was first for a while, but then I crashed into an oncoming car that panicked and didn't give me a chance to avoid him.  Man, did I want to try that race again.  But I decided I'd go with the flow and try to get into the whole "Race around every corner" thing.  The problem was that the long race had finished at the farm or cattle ranch or whatever out in the middle of nowhere with no corners or races to be found ANYWHERE. 

I tooled around a little longer, finally found a couple of Burnout Challenges for cars other than mine (so I imagine I'll eventually have to drive to a junk yard, switch cars, then drive all the way back if I ever want to do those challenges).  I'd been trying for a while to wreck the car and enter showtime or whatever, just to see if I could get some enjoyment out of it, even though the loss of Crash Mode is the biggest setback for this series.  I assume you have to find a showtime at a corner somewhere.  I drove around trying to figure out what type of race was at each corner, but I couldn't.  I finally just sucked it up and pulled up to a corner and hit both brakes.

Another long race.  This time to the Country Club.  On the way, I got off track.  There were no turns, so no beeping, just a three way fork in the road with no clear indication of which route I should take.  I tried to look at the mini map, but that thing is worse than useless.  The route line fell in between two of the choices.  I took one, and it sent me on this long roundabout journey over the train tracks.  I finally caught up with the other racers, but slammed into a guardrail or something at the last second.  I thought, "Well, now I know better.  I'd bet I'd pull that off more successfully if I had another chance."  Instead, I came to write this.

The worst part of all this is that before I started the races, I was ready to jot down some impressions of how the game isn't that bad and there's a lot of fun to be had.  The driving controls are pretty tight (though I wish you could pull back a little farther from the car - and I wish they gave you the option to switch the up/down view controls - as it is, I spend too much time holding the viewstick up [or down]...but I guess they know better about how I should be seeing the racing), the look is great, the online, while confusing and a little too loose, is easy to get into and could be fun, I think.

But, man alive, are there some obnoxious choices here.  And they could be easily fixed.  In fact, I'm holding onto the game in the hopes that they will be fixed (let us restart if we want to, tools - and give us Crash Mode or go to hell - it's the thing that made your series stand out, the thing you're famous for).  I have no doubt I'll give it another couple of tries, but I went from being amused and pleased to annoyed as hell.  Not a good sign.  And neither is the length of this post.
13543  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Advance Wars: Days of Ruin Impressions on: January 22, 2008, 11:51:36 PM
I only played through the tutorial myself, but I must say, I don't like the new setting.  The doom and gloom world seems to jar with the greens and blues from past AW games.  I'm sure it'll still be great, I'm just a little disappointed in that aspect.
13544  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next two weeks Rock Band DLC on: January 22, 2008, 11:49:58 PM

Quote from: shaggydoug on January 22, 2008, 07:29:56 PM

Quote from: ras752000 on January 17, 2008, 09:47:39 PM

Quote from: Purge on January 17, 2008, 09:20:44 PM

Oh, and some Tragically Hip. Maybe some INXS. (did they have bass, or just guitar, drums and boards?)
They had bass . . . I even remember his name . . . Gary Gary Beers, I think . . .
And they had a sax . . .
How about the below for an INXS pack ? . . .
Devil Inside
New Sensation
Listen like Thieves?

I would pay extra for an INXS pack.  Although I'd prefer some of their earlier stuff be on there, too.  Maybe "Don't Change" or "The One Thing."

Yes!   I was working last weekend and Devil Inside came on my player.   My thoughts exactly.   This would be killer.

- shaggy
13545  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (1/21) on: January 22, 2008, 06:27:01 AM

Quote from: fyedaddy on January 21, 2008, 08:08:35 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 21, 2008, 07:25:30 PM

I may also be getting Furu Furu Park, which was supposed to come last week.

Is that multi platform? I saw it listed at the local game store yesterday but it didn't have a platform listed next to the title.

It's for the Wii.
13546  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: undertow is the free xbla game on: January 21, 2008, 08:03:44 PM
Well, good news!  I called MS Cutomer Support, and because I already had the game, they credited my account with 800 points!

Woo-hoo!
13547  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Goldeneye coming to XBLA on: January 21, 2008, 07:44:19 PM
Here's a video of the XBLA version:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/162685.html
13548  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (1/21) on: January 21, 2008, 07:25:30 PM
No More Heroes has already received some stellar reviews, so yes.

Endless Ocean has been decently received, too, and I am in the mood for relaxing exploration (plus my 4 year old might like it).

Advance Wars is something I always buy and rarely play enough, but I'll be hopping in again.

I'm interested in Pirates, too, but not sure if it'll work on my laptop. Is there a fee?

I may also be getting Furu Furu Park, which was supposed to come last week.

The Burnout Paradise demo (and developer) made me angry, but the reviews have been quite good.  I just have a feeling I'll be looking for things to piss me off if I buy it.  And I still don't get how "a new race on every corner" is going to hold out after you've been playing for a long time.  It's going to eventually be in the same situation as the demo, hunting for the couple of corners with new races.
13549  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Assassin's Creed Reviews on: January 18, 2008, 06:47:46 PM
I'm still in love with the game, but part of the reason is that I'm going back to it after a month or so when I have a nice, big block of time.  It stays fresh that way.

Not looking forward to the end fights, but I'm building it up in my head enough that it'll probably not be as bad as what I'm anticipating.  Or, now that I've said that, it'll be worse.
13550  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: undertow is the free xbla game on: January 18, 2008, 06:45:43 PM
I'm surprised you guys didn't like it.  It's very well done.

I also bought it already, so I guess I'll have to put on my sorting hat.
13551  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bionic Commando Remake on XBL and PSN (In Motion!!) on: January 18, 2008, 12:47:01 AM
I'll play this only on the original sys...who the hell am I kidding?!  That looks great!
13552  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: In which Teggy professes his love for Sam Fisher on: January 16, 2008, 04:45:33 AM
Chaos Theory felt a little off to me.  I prefer Pandora Tomorrow.  But, man, Double Agent just about ruined the series for me.  I still haven't finished it.  And, honestly, the way Conviction seems to be shaping up, I may be done.

Of course, knowing me, I'll crank through the rest of DA, grumpily, and get Conviction anyway, but this series took a huge, long fall as far as I'm concerned.

BTW, Teggy, I love platformers, too.
13553  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2008 Gaming Predictions? on: January 15, 2008, 06:48:26 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on January 15, 2008, 05:13:57 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 15, 2008, 05:07:06 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on January 15, 2008, 04:59:58 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 15, 2008, 04:29:31 PM

Quote from: ATB on January 15, 2008, 04:19:59 PM

I don't even know if there is any interest in a Halo RTS. It's an odd branch to take the IP.  An RPG, on the other hand, could be monumental...but only if it's written by someone outside of Bungie.

Agreed.  While I will probably get Halo Wars, I don't think mass audiences respond to RTS anymore.  Even though they've made great strides, it's still an awkward fit on consoles.  I remember thinking that HW would be innovative until I saw the video.  It's exactly like every other RTS game out there.

Don't forget the FPS's on consoles were not that popular until Halo came out either.


Perfect Dark, Medal of Honor, TimeSplitters, oh what was that other one...Silverorb or something...

None of those could be called big sellers on consoles though.  Sure there were FPS's on consoles but it was much more of a niche genre.  Getting the controls right was one key to Halo's success.  And the controls will be the make or break for Halo Wars.

Personally the only console FPS I ever played before Halo was Goldeneye.

I don't think that's accurate.  None may have been as big as Goldeneye, but Perfect Dark sold nearly 3 million copies and the other two sold well enough to garner multiple sequels (I couldn't find specific numbers, though).

All that aside, though, unless they make significant changes from what I saw in the last video, they haven't innovated at all.

Even if they do improve it, C&C 3, which is very well done, IMO, hasn't even broken half a million in sales on the 360.  There's just no interest in RTS on a console, no matter how well they pull it off.
13554  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2008 Gaming Predictions? on: January 15, 2008, 05:07:06 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on January 15, 2008, 04:59:58 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 15, 2008, 04:29:31 PM

Quote from: ATB on January 15, 2008, 04:19:59 PM

I don't even know if there is any interest in a Halo RTS. It's an odd branch to take the IP.  An RPG, on the other hand, could be monumental...but only if it's written by someone outside of Bungie.

Agreed.  While I will probably get Halo Wars, I don't think mass audiences respond to RTS anymore.  Even though they've made great strides, it's still an awkward fit on consoles.  I remember thinking that HW would be innovative until I saw the video.  It's exactly like every other RTS game out there.

Don't forget the FPS's on consoles were not that popular until Halo came out either.


Perfect Dark, Medal of Honor, TimeSplitters, oh what was that other one...Silverorb or something...
13555  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2008 Gaming Predictions? on: January 15, 2008, 04:29:31 PM

Quote from: ATB on January 15, 2008, 04:19:59 PM

I don't even know if there is any interest in a Halo RTS. It's an odd branch to take the IP.  An RPG, on the other hand, could be monumental...but only if it's written by someone outside of Bungie.

Agreed.  While I will probably get Halo Wars, I don't think mass audiences respond to RTS anymore.  Even though they've made great strides, it's still an awkward fit on consoles.  I remember thinking that HW would be innovative until I saw the video.  It's exactly like every other RTS game out there.
13556  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2008 Gaming Predictions? on: January 14, 2008, 11:34:51 PM

Quote from: jblank on January 14, 2008, 05:03:11 PM


Gears of War gets bumped back to 2009 and Halo Wars steps in as the big November 360 release.


I predict that if Halo Wars is the big November release, Microsoft will have a lousy Christmas.
13557  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2008 Gaming Predictions? on: January 14, 2008, 04:21:48 PM
Oh, look, new Wiii colors are coming: http://kotaku.com/344348/new-wii-colours-coming-sooner-rather-than-never
13558  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2008 Gaming Predictions? on: January 14, 2008, 04:21:36 PM
Didn't someone predict new Wii colors this year?  If not, I'm predictiing it now.
13559  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (1/14) on: January 14, 2008, 04:07:59 PM
Wii:
Furu Furu Park - I have a weird interest in these mini game collections, and this one is chock full of bizarre Japanese flavor, but it's probably lame
Nitrobike - I've heard this is fun in an Excite Truck kind of way, so maybe
Samurai Warriors: KATANA - I doubt this will be good, but if it pulls out some good reviews I might give it a glance

DS:
Nanostray 2 - the first one was close but no cigar for most reviews, if the second one gets closer, I could be tempted

PC:
Battlefield 2142 Deluxe Edition is also coming at the end of this week, apparently.  I may be getting that.
13560  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Goldeneye coming to XBLA on: January 13, 2008, 06:51:48 PM
Boo on the thread title.
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