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13521  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Battlefield: Bad Company beta on: March 25, 2008, 06:37:17 PM

Quote from: Calvin on March 25, 2008, 06:10:02 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 25, 2008, 06:01:51 PM

I just started the game about fifteen minutes ago, and already I have to say, the Stand By screen is great.

Bull-I can't connect to any game-it will say "joining" and the kick me back to the main screen-there is a little ticker on the top that says demand is high and we may see errors or something, so that might be it. If I can't get it to work in 10 or 15 minutes, I will likely give up. Oh, and how completely fucking awesome is the 60's NOLF themed menu music.

I do love the music.  Really great (though I got a little tired of it after a while).

I tried a non-ranked match, finally, and got right in.

I think this'll be a lot of fun.  It helps that I came in in the middle of a round and was the number 3 player by the end.  And in the second round I was holding at 2 until the server kicked us out. 

I'm not actually griping about those connection issues, though.  That's why it's called a Beta and not a demo, right?
13522  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: March 25, 2008, 06:02:43 PM

Quote from: Farscry on March 25, 2008, 05:48:48 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on March 25, 2008, 05:06:00 PM

Someone had this happen to them before, but I've been looking at the leaderboards and I notice that some of my scores aren't ranked even though they are higher than the lowest totals.  Anyone know why that is?  My 360 is always connected to the net.

That's happened to me too, Leo. I've had some songs just not upload my scores to the leaderboards at times, which sucks when I really nail one. Tongue

Yeah, me, too.  I've 5-starred every song on Expert.  None of them loaded.
13523  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Battlefield: Bad Company beta on: March 25, 2008, 06:01:51 PM
I just started the game about fifteen minutes ago, and already I have to say, the Stand By screen is great.
13524  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Half Life 2] Well I just did that for nothing! on: March 25, 2008, 05:05:55 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on March 25, 2008, 04:09:29 PM

so, who's going for the Gnome achievement in episode 2?

While I don't completely agree with Wonderpug's achievement grumpiness, I see his point.  Developers can take achievements too far.  From what I understand, the Gnome achievement is a perfect example.  I enjoyed the Sandtraps achievement (it's how I would have played anyway) and the Ravenholm one (I think playing through with a grav gun was much cooler than with a shotgun, persoanlly...I could always use the shotgun on a zombie later in the game).  I won't be going for the gnome.

However, I think the value of an achievement can give you an idea of how much a pain in the ass it's going to be.  Sometimes even the in-game description will tell you you will probably want to avoid it.  Like "Seriously..." in Gears of War (10,000 people killed in deathmatch) or The Club's "No, Seriously..." (10,001 people killed).
13525  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: March 25, 2008, 03:43:04 PM

Quote from: jersoc on March 25, 2008, 10:07:33 AM

But yes, I seriously question  your music taste if you cannot find at ONE song of these 6 that you do not enjoy.

So, cancelling the negatives, you're saying you question the taste of someone who can find one song that they do enjoy.
13526  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Deca Sports (Wii) on: March 25, 2008, 03:38:06 PM
Looking forward to this.  Any idea on release?

Is this a Nintendo title?  Like, is it meant to be a sequel of sorts to Wii Sports, or is it just trying to cash in on that title?
13527  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (3/24) on: March 25, 2008, 03:51:54 AM

Quote from: The Grue on March 25, 2008, 03:21:08 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on March 25, 2008, 03:09:52 AM


After having passed on Conan and Beowulf there is just no way I can not buy a game called Viking, and I have a feeling this is going to be better than either of those by a mile. 

That's not saying much.

I actually like Conan quite a bit.  Not GOTY or anything, but it's a lot of fun for what it is. 
13528  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Sonic title 'announced' on: March 25, 2008, 02:56:11 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on March 25, 2008, 12:49:50 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 24, 2008, 09:25:23 PM

Quote from: Ridah on March 24, 2008, 08:32:44 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on March 24, 2008, 02:07:42 PM

Does anyone even want more Sonic games?

Hell yes, I'm all for remaking classing games in new graphics but retaining the classic gameplay. I forsee a new trend.

You can backsee an already started trend.  Witness Prince of Persia (on XBLA) or Conker or the already announced 1942 or Street Fighter games.

Bionic Commando Re-Armed.

I knew there was an XBLA game I was forgetting about...
13529  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (3/24) on: March 24, 2008, 10:13:46 PM

Quote from: ATB on March 24, 2008, 10:01:05 PM

No interest in the NG:DS eh? Surprising.

I'm surprised by that, too (though, as I mentioned, it's the only game that has me locked IN).
13530  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Sonic title 'announced' on: March 24, 2008, 09:25:23 PM

Quote from: Ridah on March 24, 2008, 08:32:44 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on March 24, 2008, 02:07:42 PM

Does anyone even want more Sonic games?

Hell yes, I'm all for remaking classing games in new graphics but retaining the classic gameplay. I forsee a new trend.

You can backsee an already started trend.  Witness Prince of Persia (on XBLA) or Conker or the already announced 1942 or Street Fighter games.
13531  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Who is your in game character? on: March 24, 2008, 09:22:38 PM
You know, I voted "easy on the eyes," but that's only true in some games (I have an all girl band in Rock Band, for example).  In RPGs, I always pick a good character.  Like Eel, I have a hard time playing evil if I have a choice.  I still beat myself up for taking the easy route in Bioshock.

My main character name has been Bullwinkle from way back when I first played the original Minesweeper on an office computer.  Unless Bullwinkle doesn't fit.  Then it's BW or Bwink (I usually use that for females).  The other characters usually have names like Rocky, Natasha, Boris, Nell, or Snidely.
13532  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: March 24, 2008, 08:36:17 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 24, 2008, 04:07:24 PM

Quote from: ATB on March 24, 2008, 04:00:46 PM

OMGHI2U BOSTON SONG PAX! SO IN.

Since you've been out of the thread for a while, have you seen the new in-game music store yet?

I would love to see a DLC sales chart from Harmonix to see the sales spike after the store release.  I know I spent at least $20 after going through the song previews with my wife.

Yeah, I bought a few this weekend, too.  Makes a huge difference being able to hear the previews.  I love the store!  And the faster loading at game start is phenomenal.

On a song suggestion note:  I heard "And She Was" in the car today.  That would be a perfect, fairly easy one.  Toss a bunch of Talking Heads in there, while you're at it.  "Psycho Killer" anyone?

13533  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (3/24) on: March 24, 2008, 08:28:48 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on March 24, 2008, 06:59:18 PM

VIKING!!! 

I might try out Dark Sector once it gets a price drop.

Don't you mean Vikings?
13534  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Condemned 2 impressions on: March 24, 2008, 08:26:58 PM

Quote from: Ridah on March 24, 2008, 08:24:23 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on March 24, 2008, 07:18:49 PM

I downloaded the demo for the PS3 and I was not impressed at all.  I never played the first game, so this was my intro to the series.  I've been a fan of Monolith games in the past, but this demo was bad.  Clunky movement, awkward weapon swinging.  Little oil gremlins that would attack me before my stupid wrench would swing.  Blech.

Did you play the first game? If not you need to put more time into it to adapt to the feel which is much different than other shooters. Give it time, my friend.

Did you read the post?
13535  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Sonic title 'announced' on: March 24, 2008, 03:16:06 PM
There was a feeling of "finally" as I watched that.  There were a couple of spots where the camera seemed like it might still be a problem.  I know it's still way early to judge, but the fact that they're even thinking about playing with the camera like that worries me.
13536  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (3/24) on: March 24, 2008, 03:11:21 PM
360:
Dark Sector
Universe at War: Earth Assault
Viking: Battle for Asgard

I'm interested in all three of these, but I need to see reviews on all of them.  They have the potential to be pretty good.

Wii:
Obscure: The Aftermath
Otomania
Opoona

I thought I was interested in all three Wii O titles, but I think the only one is Opoona.  I love the look of it, and I could use a Lite RPG on the Wii, but it's nunchuck-only control scheme seems like more than a gimick.  It seems like it'd be annoying.

DS:
Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword

This is the only title I'm IN on.  Well, this and the Boston pack.
13537  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Half Life 2] Well I just did that for nothing! on: March 23, 2008, 08:12:57 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on March 23, 2008, 04:34:56 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on March 23, 2008, 04:17:41 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 23, 2008, 04:06:14 PM

That sense of achievement is now acknowledged, Pavlov-style, by a little sound effect and a visual pop-up.  Plus a cool icon.

Triggering reward-center in brain = more fun, magically.

so gamers who love achievements are dogs.  gotcha  icon_twisted

Sounds about right to me

woof.
13538  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Sonic title 'announced' on: March 23, 2008, 08:11:01 PM

Quote from: Ridah on March 23, 2008, 07:40:49 PM

Maybe they'll take a cue from the upcoming Street Fighter and do a 3D engine with 2D gameplay.

Isn't that what was said they were doing?
13539  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Half Life 2] Well I just did that for nothing! on: March 23, 2008, 04:06:14 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 23, 2008, 01:12:13 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 22, 2008, 10:40:40 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 22, 2008, 10:19:04 PM

Quote from: Laner on March 22, 2008, 02:33:16 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 21, 2008, 12:52:59 PM

Well, I won't harp long on my anti-achievement stance, but this is just such a great example of its problem.  Getting through Ravenholm with the grav gun should be fun because you got through Ravenholm with the grav gun, not because you'll unlock a small icon you'll never look at and get arbitrary points that don't do anything.
Who said the two have to be mutually exclusive?
Teggy did, at least for himself, when he said "Well I just did that for nothing."
Well, not really, because he didn't actually get the achievement.
When I made the post Teggy had not yet said he did indeed have fun with the grav gun run itself.  From his two posts prior his experience was "for nothing" and "a complete waste of time except for learning about radiators" since he didn't get the achievement.  In that case, if he had gotten the achievement I don't see how that would magically have made the grav gun run gameplay itself fun for him.

It's the pat on the back thing that was being discussed earlier.  Old school gaming was all about trying again and again until you beat a level.  That sense of achievement is now acknowledged, Pavlov-style, by a little sound effect and a visual pop-up.  Plus a cool icon.

Triggering reward-center in brain = more fun, magically.
13540  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: March 23, 2008, 03:54:37 AM

Quote from: msduncan on March 23, 2008, 01:23:38 AM

I'm super excited about the Boston pack.

I have a wish list (forgive me -- I haven't read through this thread since I just got Rock Band tonight):

And U2 songs.    Is there a reason there are no U2 songs?
David Bowie Labyrinth songs!!! biggrin   Dance Magic Dance anyone?  biggrin
Some of the real classics -- like Johnny B. Goode

And why in sweet Jeebus's name isn't Sweet Home Alabama in this game???



My wife was screaming for Sweet Home Alabama herself recently.

I would love more Bowie, though I'm not sure about Labyrinth (loved that ST at the time, though).  I think Blue Jean would be phenomenal, game-play wise.

A friend's mother gave the game a shot today, and was sad there weren't more songs for her in there.  Johnny B. Goode would have been perfect.  Maybe Peggy Sue, too.  I guess bass might be a problem, though.

Give me more 80s, but not hair-metal, please.  People were aching for INXS earlier.  I'd love to see that.  And I think some Go-Gos would be goofy fun.
13541  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Half Life 2] Well I just did that for nothing! on: March 22, 2008, 10:40:40 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 22, 2008, 10:19:04 PM

Quote from: Laner on March 22, 2008, 02:33:16 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 21, 2008, 12:52:59 PM

Well, I won't harp long on my anti-achievement stance, but this is just such a great example of its problem.  Getting through Ravenholm with the grav gun should be fun because you got through Ravenholm with the grav gun, not because you'll unlock a small icon you'll never look at and get arbitrary points that don't do anything.
Who said the two have to be mutually exclusive?
Teggy did, at least for himself, when he said "Well I just did that for nothing."

Well, not really, because he didn't actually get the achievement.
13542  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: March 22, 2008, 10:39:56 PM

Quote from: Gratch on March 22, 2008, 08:59:29 PM

  Maybe the same ones that will bitch when the Zeppelin IV full album is released.  slywink

I just peed my pants.  ohpleaseohpleaseohplease...
13543  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Impressions on: March 22, 2008, 04:43:50 AM
The only issues with auto-handicap for me are that a) it takes a while to kick in and 2) you can't set it to stay on permanently.

I'm enjoying SSBB more than the last game, but my wife and her sister, who both absolutely loved the last one, don't seem to get any enjoyment out of this one.  Maybe it's less pick up and play.  There does seem to be a stronger feeling of chaos the first time you play over the last one.  I remember feeling like I had a decent idea what I was doing faster last time.
13544  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Half Life 2] Well I just did that for nothing! on: March 21, 2008, 04:18:10 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 21, 2008, 04:11:31 PM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on March 21, 2008, 03:56:40 PM

Quote from: KePoW on March 21, 2008, 05:14:44 AM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on March 21, 2008, 02:06:37 AM

Well, one could argue that even if you got the achievement, you did that for nothing.

that is, until Home comes out and has 'Accomplishments', right?  even though it's the same exact thing as Achievements...

...

You've unlocked Wonderment: JRPG Dots!



+300 wonderpoints!

Damnit!
13545  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bully Patch for 360 out now! on: March 21, 2008, 04:00:43 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on March 21, 2008, 03:47:16 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 21, 2008, 03:32:21 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on March 21, 2008, 03:30:49 PM

meh,the last 10-11 hrs of the game was fine for me(i got the first freeze about 2hrs in,then another freeze 8 hrs in ),..this patch is a little too late as i finished the game and lent it to my sister to play

It's not too late for your sister, though, is it.

Is she metallic,too?


nah,she isnt even connected to LIVE,(she is a little lost when it comes to that,she thinks she has to pay for it,no matter how much i tell her thats just for online play)i told her to just save it a lot

and i have no idea what her 360 profile name is,she did tell me,and it wasnt very good,and i havent remembered it,prolly for the best,LOL

i loved this game,and i got about 92% altogether,because i didnt bother with the arcade machines or collected all the clothing,but i collected all the rubber bands,G+G cards and gnomes,last biology class is a killer

Hell, the first Biology class is tough, compared to the other classes.  It was the only one I had to redo.  I spent way too long figuring out what I was supposed to be doing (and didn't see the explanatory text at the bottom of the screen).  I'd only just cut out the heart when I ran out of time.

Here's a question:  I'm still very early in the game.  I'm basically playing through all the available classes and not doing much else until I finish those.  Does that seem like a good way to play?

Also, once I finish classes, am I basically not going to be truant any more for the rest of the game?
13546  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Universe at War: Earth Assault on: March 21, 2008, 03:47:48 PM

Quote from: JuniorDan on March 21, 2008, 02:06:01 PM

The game looks pretty interesting, I never gave it a second look when it came out for the PC in December. after watching the video demos and seeing the units and all the diversity they put into each individual unit on each fractions sounds pretty good.
Plus you can play PC vs 360 "seamlessly" so they say. The Video on the spot review looked pretty good and the menus for the 360 version look controller friendly enough. Unfortunately the kid playing the game for the interview don't know shit about the game he is representing. http://www.gamespot.com/video/939445/6188065/universe-at-war-earth-assault-on-the-spot-03-13-08-demo
Gamespot been sucking alot lately  icon_confused.
Have anyone every tried the past 360 RTS games with a mouse and keyboard?

I played most of them, though, oddly, I'm not an RTS guy.

C&C 3 really was a ton of fun, though, and easy to manage.  Even more streamlined than the already pretty functional LOTR game (the framerate was a huge problem for that one).  Plus, I was able to play on an easy enough level that it was more of an action game for me.  I always panic in RTS games that I'm going into a battle grossly underprepared.  So, I spend way too long overpreparing in that tank rush way and then obliterate the opposing forces.  It's just not as entertaining that way over the long haul, usually.  But C&C 3 has a campy fun story and moves at a pretty damn good pace.  I understand UaW has a similarly over the top story.

EDIT TO ADD: I just watched the video.  That d-pad snap-to-unit thing is an excellent idea.
13547  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Half Life 2] Well I just did that for nothing! on: March 21, 2008, 03:43:05 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 21, 2008, 03:00:56 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on March 21, 2008, 02:50:29 PM

Quote from: Teggy on March 21, 2008, 02:17:09 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 21, 2008, 12:52:59 PM

Well, I won't harp long on my anti-achievement stance, but this is just such a great example of its problem.  Getting through Ravenholm with the grav gun should be fun because you got through Ravenholm with the grav gun, not because you'll unlock a small icon you'll never look at and get arbitrary points that don't do anything.

You know what, here you go:

Print this out.


And I give you 500 wonderpoints as well.  You can write +500 on a sticky note if you like.

Yay!

Well it was fun, but I still want my nerd points.

But it only counts if other people can see your icon and wonderpoints.  Is there a link to WonderLive! where we can check his account?

I forgot to mention that you're supposed to safety-pin the icon printout and the +500 post-it note to your chest when you're out in public.  Sure, you don't get exposure to as many strangers who don't care about your points as you do on Live, but with my system you're entitled to look down at people with disdain if they have fewer wonderpoints pinned to their chest.

It's kind of like Boy Scout merit badges, but with less accomplishment and more geekiness and spite. 

I love Wonderpoints!  What else can I unlock?
13548  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Banjo-Kazooie teaser site live on: March 21, 2008, 03:37:30 PM

Quote from: Destructor on March 21, 2008, 01:51:44 PM

1) I won't download a plugin for a site demo (what IS Silverlight anyway?)
2) Rare...how to say it...hasn't been exactly Rare as of late. I don't have high hopes for them working on a BK game nowadays.

It's not even a site demo.  It's not much of anything, really.  Just a spinning iconic puzzle piece.  I'm sure more will come later.
13549  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: March 21, 2008, 03:33:44 PM

Quote from: Chaz on March 21, 2008, 03:13:50 AM

Their song is Outside.  It's a pretty fun song.  Their guitarist is our Audio Lead, and the bassist is our head producer guy.

That's awesome.  Tell them they were great.

I saw them live one time.  I still get chills when I hear "Goldfinger."
13550  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bully Patch for 360 out now! on: March 21, 2008, 03:32:21 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on March 21, 2008, 03:30:49 PM

meh,the last 10-11 hrs of the game was fine for me(i got the first freeze about 2hrs in,then another freeze 8 hrs in ),..this patch is a little too late as i finished the game and lent it to my sister to play

It's not too late for your sister, though, is it.

Is she metallic,too?
13551  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: While My Guitar Gently Weeps? on: March 21, 2008, 03:01:16 AM
I love my GH guitar. 

My only regret on not picking up the whole RB set is that the top buttons might have been easier for my four year old daughter to play.
13552  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Half Life 2] Well I just did that for nothing! on: March 21, 2008, 03:00:05 AM
I don't want to sound like one of those obnoxious teenagers, but that achievement was EZ, loozers!

Actually, I was expecting it to be a royal pain, but as long as you keep moving, it's not too tough. 

BTW, I can't remember, but I think you might get the achievement before the fast zombies show up.
13553  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: March 21, 2008, 02:55:15 AM
I was shocked to find I'd finished the guitar tour today.  My wife and daughter were a little miffed that I sat through the credits, but I'm glad I did.  Partly because a lot of people worked hard on the game, the least I can do is barely acknowledge their name (unless it's one I can make fun of).  But mostly because I was psyched to hear Tribe in the end credits.  Guessing there are some Boston folks on the design team (should have figured with the town being a constant setting, but still...)  Is Tribe playable?  I never bothered to check.
13554  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Bully Patch for 360 out now! on: March 20, 2008, 07:35:19 PM
For those of you who, like me, were waiting to continue playing the 360 version of Bully until the patch went live on Live don't have to wait any more.  The patch is up.
13555  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: March 20, 2008, 07:27:25 PM
Hey, Chaz, hopefully one of the secrets you're still holding out on involves stealing the Beatles away from the Guitar Hero folks (and the stunning line up of Zep tunes coming).  Seriously, any amount of money is worth it.
13556  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Sega Superstars Tennis on: March 20, 2008, 05:48:08 PM

Quote from: Simon on March 20, 2008, 05:15:15 PM

I spent about an hour with it yesterday, it's a cute game and fun to see all the characters in there. It's perfect for playing with our five-year old too. The gameplay is very simplistic and at first I wasn't that impressed, but at the end of a short tournament I found myself actually getting into the match and trying to win. There does seem to be a lot of minigames and stuff to unlock, and I bet co-op/multiplayer will be fun. The graphics are very nice, the music is borderline annoying so far. I picked it up for about $30 with a couple of trade-ins, at that price I think it's definitely worth picking up if you like these kind of games.

Which system did you get it for?

I usually like Wii games for my daughter, but the controls seem to be a little weak, so I'm thinking the 360 one seems like the better option here.
13557  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: March 20, 2008, 03:05:00 PM

Quote from: Chaz on March 20, 2008, 02:54:33 PM

Hooray!  No more secrets (about the store) for me!

Just two dozen other secrets to go!

When does this thing come out, by the way?  Or is it out already?
13558  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Guitar Hero DS on: March 20, 2008, 02:56:40 PM

Quote from: Jumangi on March 20, 2008, 02:02:40 PM

Quote from: Canuck on March 20, 2008, 09:36:43 AM

Hmm looks interesting-I suppose it can't make you look any more ridiculous than having a plastic guitar strapped around you smile

Most people don't pull out the Guitar when they're on the bus either.


Didn't you see the movie Once?  Happens all the time in Ireland.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eM-HYfZk_I
13559  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: March 20, 2008, 02:52:31 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 20, 2008, 02:46:40 PM

Awesome.





More pics and info via the link.



Brilliant.  They've needed this feature since day 1.  The chance to preview a song (especially a cover) before buying it is a necessity. 
13560  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Guitar Hero DS on: March 20, 2008, 06:10:58 AM
I'm a little worried about watching the screen and strumming/clicking at the same time.  It'll be hard to rock out and watch the notes at the same time.  If they figured that out, though, this could be pretty damn cool.

Oh, and it better be way more than 20+ songs.
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