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13401  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nobody got Space Invaders Extreme? on: June 23, 2008, 06:23:30 PM

Quote from: The Grue on June 23, 2008, 04:04:15 PM

This game is to Space Invaders what Pac-Man Championship Edition was to Pac-Man. 

That's exactly how I've been describing it.  Of course, I feel like P-M:CE was largely ignored, despite being an amazing and addictive game.  SIE is a fantastic game that is very easy to pick up and play (I've tried one level a dozen times, it seems, just trying to get a little further).  The variety in the levels and the things that you do and try are incredible, yet it never feels like it's not Space Invaders.  Just like P-M:CE.  I'll pick this up again if it comes to XBLA.
13402  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Spider-Man: Web of Shadows on: June 22, 2008, 08:19:40 PM
Hey, that does look good.  I especially liked when they pointed out that web swinging and fighting were two separate elements that needed to be married together.

I downloaded the trailer for this recently and was disappointed in the story only-ness of it.
13403  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Fit - I am so weak on: June 22, 2008, 08:15:56 PM

Quote from: Aliasbuck on June 22, 2008, 06:29:35 PM

Quote from: Tals on June 03, 2008, 05:56:39 AM

Quote

I really can't see anyone getting fit with Wii Fit unless they put in around an hour a day.


Agreed and an hours jog or whatever fitness you do will no doubt be more benefit.

Tals

Have to disagree:

I was sadly out of shape prior to Christmas, up to 202 at 5-9 after I badly pinched a nerve in my leg and back and was pretty much out of commission for most of the fall, to the point that slow walking was painful, forget anything qualified as "exercise". 

However, after feeling relatively good for a few weeks, I bought a Wii in February (bowling - yes, boxing - yes, tennis - sort of.  Baseball - dear god, someone ripped my arm off - not doing it).  Dropped about a couple pounds on Wii sports.  Finally got to the point where I could walk and not look like Frankenstein with a bad back, but running was out of the question still. 

Bought Wii Fit on day 1 and have been doing 30 minutes per day, missing a day or two here and there.  I am down to just under 193 and this is from doing nothing but Fit and Sports.  I can even do both the tennis and baseball events without pain.   icon_eek 

I'm finally in some kind of mediocre shape that I can get back to doing active things again (The bike just went in the shop for a tuneup after 9 months of no use, because I couldn't even get on it) and continue my transformation back to the real me from an amorphous blob - and not one minute spent on godawfulboringashell physical therapy. 

Now, I'm not claiming that it'll do a lot for someone who is in decent shape, but for someone like me, I have to say that the silly thing works.  I was skeptical, but at the heavy encouragement from mrs. AB, I tried it.  Darned if she wasn't right.  Smart lady she is  nod

I'm also not in great shape, and I'm hoping it'll help me in the same way.

It seems that everyone here who denounces the thing is already doing plenty of other excersizing. 

Now if only I could find the damned thing...
13404  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Playstation Store? on: June 22, 2008, 02:34:25 PM
I think you can download stuff to a memory stick if your computer takes one and then plug that into the PSP.
13405  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mario Kart Wii Impressions on: June 21, 2008, 07:35:42 PM

Quote from: JCC on June 21, 2008, 05:48:53 PM

I have tried every type of store that sells video games. Target, FYE, BB, EB/GS, Costco, Radio Shack, etc. For about 3 weeks, I have been unable to find any trace of this game, other than wheels, strategy guides, and demo kiosks which taunt me. I just don't understand WHY this would be hard to find.

I think the whole reason is the wheel.  Anytime you have to manufacture something, as opposed to just slap on a disc and ship, it slows things down significantly.  It's one of the reason I preordered consoles this go 'round and why I'm getting more and more frustrated that I can't find a Wii Fit.
13406  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Fit - I am so weak on: June 21, 2008, 05:31:03 PM
I was supposed to get this thing for Father's Day, but my wife could not find it anywhere.  Any leads on when new shipments might start trickling in?  Or where I can find it for the regular retail price?
13407  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Infamous - new info from Game Informer on: June 21, 2008, 04:16:26 PM

Quote from: EddieA on June 21, 2008, 03:01:02 AM

I'm guessing that the plan for Sony's second-party developers (I think that's what they're called) is to create a new IP for their first PS3 game, and then return to their more famous series.  Insomniac did Resitance and then Ratchet & Clank Future, Naughty Dog did Uncharted and are probably working on a new Jak game now, and Sucker Punch is doing Infamous, and then may do another Sly Cooper.

I thought J&D was a trilogy.  Period.  Or "full stop," if Metallicorphan reads this.  Didn't I read that somewhere?
13408  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Advertising in videogames on: June 21, 2008, 12:57:11 AM

Quote from: gellar on June 20, 2008, 09:51:06 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on June 19, 2008, 03:02:31 PM

OOOOOOh no we don't.  Fight Night Round 3 had the WOOOORST advertising I've ever seen in any title, ever.  From having The King as a workout partner, "This knockout cam brought to you by Dodge", and far worse, Fight Night Round 3 would be hard to beat.

No sir, that was the BEST in game advertising, ever.  Solely for that part.

gellar

FN3 was ever present, but it felt appropriate.  It's not like you'd never see the knockout cam brought to you by Dodge on actual television.
13409  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tales of Vesperia announced on: June 20, 2008, 10:10:17 PM
I liked Tales of Symphonia quite a bit on the 'Cube, but I never finished it.

ToS seemed to rate highest on GameRankings with 85.7%.  Tales of Eternia on the PSP comes closest to it at 84.3%.  Tales of the Abyss is only ranked 79.2%, still really respectable.
13410  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: worst parts of great games. on: June 20, 2008, 05:50:01 PM

Quote from: Caine on June 20, 2008, 04:25:22 PM

Quote from: Eel Snave on June 20, 2008, 02:26:36 PM

Quote from: EddieA on June 20, 2008, 01:04:09 AM

Driving around Haven City in Jak 2 was horrible.  The streets were so overclogged with other vehicles that you sometimes just had to sit there and wait for them to move in order to get past.  Since you had to drive all over the city between missions, it became a chore to play.  All they had to do was decrease the traffic by half, and the game would have been great.  Thankfully, that's just what they did for Jak 3, and that was one of the best games of the previous generation.

I didn't play Jak 3 for exactly that reason.  After how good Jak 2 COULD have been, I didn't want to get burned.

i quit jak 2 and was almost in the same boat as you are.  i got it cheap on the recommendation of someone here and i was very surprised.  it's a much better game than 2 was.  i really want them to make a ps3 sequel

Man, I just started Jak II.  I loved it immediately, but thought the traffic was a little annoying.  Now I'm starting to worry that the minor irritation will turn into something that will keep me from finishing the game.  Sigh.

By the way, the social aspect of GTA IV is one of the most clearly defined horrible idea in a great game things I've ever encountered.  However, turning on Sleep Mode helps tremendously.  It's just irritating that you constantly have to keep turning it on.
13411  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alone in the Dark on: June 20, 2008, 05:47:22 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 20, 2008, 05:42:09 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 20, 2008, 12:44:51 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 19, 2008, 06:06:43 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 19, 2008, 05:04:15 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 19, 2008, 04:44:42 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 19, 2008, 04:24:53 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 19, 2008, 12:43:44 AM

1st review I've seen is in at the trustworthy Eurogamer: 7/10

hmm,not sure about them.,....didnt they give MGS4 an 8?


you're right-  they tend to inflate their scores.





 icon_twisted

you're going to Hell for that comment,and that comment alone!!!

 icon_evil icon_evil icon_evil  icon_twisted icon_evil icon_twisted icon_twisted icon_evil icon_evilicon_twisted icon_evil  paranoid<<<CK icon_twisted icon_evil icon_evil icon_twisted icon_twisted icon_evil icon_evil icon_twisted icon_evil icon_twisted icon_evil icon_twisted icon_evil

And the Webby for best depiction of Hell with emoticons goes to...forgot my glasses...Metallo...no, wait, it's Metallicorphan.

I thought it was Metallica......

Metallo....lol...sounds like a spider-man enemy,and a lot of people have asked me if i like Metallica,i dont mind them,i like most guitar bands,but i was more softer rock,GnR Aerosmith,white stripes...maybe a bit of greenday or foo fighters...but i got the name,by applying for XBOX LIVE on the XBOX1(about 2003-4),it was a random name given to me from the xbox,when my name i wanted (Pale rider)was taken..and i have stuck with it ever since

I always see it as Metachlorian.  And Metallo is actually a Superman villain.  Kryptonite heart and everything. 

As for all that other crap, yipes.  I can't wait to see some legit reviews.  Maybe this'll be a diamond in the rough, but it's starting to sound just rough.
13412  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLA] Ticket to Ride...soon? on: June 19, 2008, 09:21:17 PM
I just ordered a Ticket to Ride card game that is supposed to be very good, too.

What a great game.  This was a big hit with my in-laws when we played it.  I hope the expansions and other versions become available down the road.

I also hope it's not as bad as Lost Cities.
13413  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: worst parts of great games. on: June 19, 2008, 06:08:07 PM

Quote from: Jancelot on June 19, 2008, 05:47:11 PM

Great article.  I especially agree with the point about Dead Rising as well as Halo and Mass Effect.

My write in would be the Meat Circus level in Psychonauts.  I still haven't finished it and it was brilliant up to that point. *

Big Jake beat me to it.   nod

I thought the single save file was a bigger problem for Dead Rising, personally.
13414  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alone in the Dark on: June 19, 2008, 06:06:43 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 19, 2008, 05:04:15 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 19, 2008, 04:44:42 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 19, 2008, 04:24:53 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 19, 2008, 12:43:44 AM

1st review I've seen is in at the trustworthy Eurogamer: 7/10

hmm,not sure about them.,....didnt they give MGS4 an 8?


you're right-  they tend to inflate their scores.





 icon_twisted

you're going to Hell for that comment,and that comment alone!!!

 icon_evil icon_evil icon_evil  icon_twisted icon_evil icon_twisted icon_twisted icon_evil icon_evilicon_twisted icon_evil  paranoid<<<CK icon_twisted icon_evil icon_evil icon_twisted icon_twisted icon_evil icon_evil icon_twisted icon_evil icon_twisted icon_evil icon_twisted icon_evil

And the Webby for best depiction of Hell with emoticons goes to...forgot my glasses...Metallo...no, wait, it's Metallicorphan.
13415  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Wish Lists? on: June 19, 2008, 03:33:27 PM
I pressed the Unfreeze button on the cryogenic chamber where this thread has been resting.

I just was listening to "La Grange" by ZZ Top.  Please, please, please put this out.  Maybe with "Tush" and any damned other ZZ Top tune in a song pack.
13416  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [rbdlc 4.0] Rock Band DLC reviews (Updated June 15) on: June 19, 2008, 03:31:10 PM
I'm sure you're too busy putting the site together in its regular state, but I had an idea for a side project that could tie in to this concept very well.

Why don't you add a feature for song suggestions?  A Most Requested type thing.  I would love to see how people respond to certain songs on a list like that.
13417  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alone in the Dark on: June 19, 2008, 12:43:44 AM
1st review I've seen is in at the trustworthy Eurogamer: 7/10

The summary:
Quote
Yet in spite of all this, Alone in the Dark is ultimately likeable, even lovable. If you go back and read those opening paragraphs again, there's a game there that every gamer would want. Inventive, flexible, considered. It's stunning to look at it in places, too, and it's capable of classic gaming moments: quieter than the Would You Kindlies and This Was A Triumphs, but just as special. And in Edward Carnby's practical survivor, Eden has a tool players will enjoy sharpening. The problem is that every time you get excited about Alone in the Dark, it shuts you down. At times it's akin to Atari's Boiling Point: Road To Hell of three years ago; throw any score on the ten-point scale and it will stick to something, but there's so much friction on the lower end that it's often impossible to pull away and remember when you brushed past genius. You want to love it, but it just keeps letting you down, and in the end that's the impression that sticks to the wall and stays there.
13418  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alone in the Dark on: June 18, 2008, 05:59:59 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 18, 2008, 04:38:07 PM

yeah i liked Prey...a bit anyway,got lost too often,LOL

but the graphics reminded me of prey's graphics.especially the lead character(he looked a bit like Tommy,and no i am not trying to be racist in saying it is because he is Native American,like Tommy was...or at least i thought the alone in the dark guy was as well)...but the graphics,looked great in some places and dodgy in others.....it may just be me,or my TV,remember i am SONY widescreen SD 32" vega(or wega)...not HD anyway

i have however seen on another making of or diary vid or something when you have a flaming chair(as in a chair that is on fire),and waving it about,that looked cool

Wait, are you saying that all Native American video game characters look alike to you?  icon_wink

Actually, I'm not sure what the AITD guy is, ethnicly.
13419  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Impressions] Ninja Gaiden 2 on: June 18, 2008, 04:07:49 AM

Quote from: Ridah on June 18, 2008, 03:01:12 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 18, 2008, 02:51:59 AM

Quote from: Ridah on June 18, 2008, 12:07:39 AM

Quote from: mikeg on June 17, 2008, 11:44:03 PM

Very sad to here they included cheap ass off screen projectiles just to make it more difficult.  Few things piss me off more than cheap shots.  May have to pass on this now at ANY price.  Damn!

Oh come the fuck on, like this hasn't been going on in video games since the beginning of time? It makes no sense that just because you can't see an enemy on screen that they can't hit you with ranged attacks.

How can you possibly (and quite angrily, it seems) defend this as an acceptable game mechanic?

I'm not angry (sorry, swearing is a regular for my vocab), but I'm saying that realistically there's gonna be motherfuckers shooting you at a distance, just because you can't SEE them doing it doesn't mean you shouldn't have to worry about them  Tongue How would it even work? At one moment you have the camera facing the ranged enemies and their projectiles are hitting you, and the moment you turn away and the camera is no longer on them they start attacking you?

The way it would work is that the game designers wouldn't put those motherfuckers there.  Especially when you're expected to fight a whole crapload of other challenging motherfuckers at the same time.
13420  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Impressions] Ninja Gaiden 2 on: June 18, 2008, 02:51:59 AM

Quote from: Ridah on June 18, 2008, 12:07:39 AM

Quote from: mikeg on June 17, 2008, 11:44:03 PM

Very sad to here they included cheap ass off screen projectiles just to make it more difficult.  Few things piss me off more than cheap shots.  May have to pass on this now at ANY price.  Damn!

Oh come the fuck on, like this hasn't been going on in video games since the beginning of time? It makes no sense that just because you can't see an enemy on screen that they can't hit you with ranged attacks.

How can you possibly (and quite angrily, it seems) defend this as an acceptable game mechanic?
13421  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alone in the Dark on: June 17, 2008, 09:01:54 PM

Quote from: msteelers on June 17, 2008, 08:46:16 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 17, 2008, 08:40:04 PM

hmm,i just downloaded the 'making of' from XBL,and it does look good,however i cant decide whether i like the graphics,some are good in places but in others it looks like a poor mans 'Prey'

Wow. I thought Prey was the poor mans...something.

What I'm trying to say is Prey wasn't good.

Do you mean graphically or otherwise?  I actually liked Prey quite a bit.  And while they may not have been award-winning, I thought the graphics were decent, especially for the time.

AITD's graphics aren't jaw-dropping.  There's something kinda dirty about them, unpolished.  But if they're pulling off the kind of things they describe in the other vids, it might be a fair trade-off.
13422  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Alone in the Dark on: June 17, 2008, 03:36:48 PM
This game is just about to come out.

Despite my wish that they'd stick to the time period of the original, all of the released media has piqued my interest.  However, the most recent "Making of" video (on XBLM today) really has me psyched.  Story ideas that they've implemented seem borderline revolutionary.  They make a point of saying that, instead of thinking of the game like a movie, they see it as a TV show (given the 10-15 hours, that makes infinitely more sense).  Apparently, if you step away from the game for a while, when you start up again you'll get a "Previously on Alone in the Dark..."  The Lost game tried this, but it was set up in a static way, at the beginning of chapters.  They've also set up a Tivo-like function, where you can rewind and drop into the game.  Basically, play the thing at your own pace.  This really fits into the way I play games, and I'm very excited about it.

This isn't even talking about some of the great game mechanics that they've covered in previous videos.

If they pull it off, it could change be something amazing.

Unfortunately, I've heard some reports that they have not pulled it off, and the game's getting released too soon.  I'm anxiously waiting for reviews.
13423  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Kung Fu Panda DEMO on: June 17, 2008, 01:19:22 PM

Quote from: J.M. Diller on June 17, 2008, 02:43:45 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 16, 2008, 11:39:32 PM

Picked up the full game after seeing the movie this weekend (great film) and seeing good reviews (including GT).  A lot of fun so far, though I've only played the demo level.

One question:  Am I missing something or is there no way to replay levels other than to start the game over?

On the level load screen you can push left and right to switch between levels.  However, this might only become available after defeating the game.  I had the same question as you and only noticed the arrows that indicate to push left or right after finishing the game.  Maybe they were there all along.

Anyway, its a fun little game, but it only takes about 3-4 hours to finish.  I was going to replay it again on the hardest difficulty, but I couldn't get fired up about it.  So I sent it back to Gamefly. smile

Thank you for saving me some time (though given the short game length, maybe it isn't a lot of time).  You can scroll using those arrows right from the beginning.
13424  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Kung Fu Panda DEMO on: June 16, 2008, 11:39:32 PM
Picked up the full game after seeing the movie this weekend (great film) and seeing good reviews (including GT).  A lot of fun so far, though I've only played the demo level.

One question:  Am I missing something or is there no way to replay levels other than to start the game over?
13425  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (6/16) on: June 16, 2008, 03:25:41 PM
Space Invaders Extreme is getting great reviews, it's true.  I'm in on that (BTW, you can try a demo for Arkanoid through the Wii, if you have one - it's not great).

I may get Secret Agent Clank.

Today, I'm picking up Kung Fu Panda (saw the movie this weekend - fantastic), the Metal Gear Solid Collection (1-3) for PS2 and We Ski (I was supposed to get a Wii Fit for Father's Day, but my wife couldn't find one - any leads?).
13426  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Playing Metal Gear Solid 1 - 3 before MGS 4 - who is with me?! on: June 15, 2008, 09:24:46 PM
I finished MGS1 on the 'cube.  Turned out I didn't have far to go.  Basically a half hour of gameplay or so.  With cutscenes it took me two nights.  Badump bump.  But also, sadly, true.

I don't mind the idea of the long cutscenes.  And I love when the information and back story flows fast and furious, but, for the love of G, someone needs to teach Kojima some editing (or at least the American translators, but I have a feeling the problem lies overseas).  People say the same damn thing over and over and repeat themselves in a very redundant way.  Plus, it's so repetetive.

None the less, I did enjoy it, and I'm going to pick up the boxed set tomorrow.  Seems I'll still save more $ than if I just bought the special editions of just 2&3 used.

13427  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] MGS4 with no previous MGS experience on: June 15, 2008, 09:15:42 PM
I guess I'm going the add experience route and trying to play through the rest before tackling 4.  Turns out I didn't have much more to go in the first one (only about 2 or 3 hours).  I am a slow player, though, so I don't expect to get to 4 until next year sometime.
13428  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Adam Sessler gets pissed about homophobes and racists on Live on: June 14, 2008, 03:19:42 AM

Quote from: KePoW on June 13, 2008, 11:11:09 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 13, 2008, 10:20:19 PM

The big deal is that it will become a big deal.  It really isn't helping the gaming community that this type of behavior isn't just prevelant it's encouraged or seen as not a big deal.

It's a huge deal that ten year olds think it's funny to hatefully label people as fags (or use the N word as a slur or, as I've even heard on one occaision, jew).  If this is accepted/encouraged at 10, what is that kid going to be like when he gets out into the real world and actually meets a homosexual (or worse, meets one and has no idea that he's met one).

The big problem is the hate behind it, not the word.  Words only have the weight we give them.  I could go on on that point for hours (ask me about my hilarious use of the C word at the absolute wrong time).  I myself have labeled things as Eighth Grade Gay (rather than just Gay), but I don't think I've ever called someone a "fucking fag" and meant it in the way some of these kids seem to.  It's not all kids.  Sure, I've laughed at some kids tossing tough talk around.  That's one thing.  It's this other crap that's the problem.  And it's not just kids, either, although they're the ones the media is going to jump on someday in the not too far off future.

Sure I can mute them.  I can even give them bad feedback.  That's not going to stop the behavior. 

Frankly, I can't understand how anyone can see this as not a big deal. 

let me clarify... I'm saying it's not a big enough deal to where it would prevent me from playing MP games, which I love to do

you're talking about it from a *non-gaming* social and cultural aspect, which is a valid point.  I just don't care about that side of things too much

You'll care about it when the non-gaming legislation comes down and the thought police enter your home to take your consoles and shove your damn head in a rat cage.
13429  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] MGS4 with no previous MGS experience on: June 13, 2008, 11:03:55 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 13, 2008, 10:37:14 PM

hey look at me i can answer that BW as i have just playede through the games

metal gear solid:the twin snakes took me about 8-9 hrs
metal gear solid 2 was a bit longer,about 11,maybe 12 hrs
and metal gear solid 3..THE BEST...about the same 11-12 hrs


worth it to finish all....i am hoping to finally get into and complete MGS:Port Ops on the PSP when i finish number 4

Thanks, MO.

Were these quick play throughs, or were you trying to do things like find all the dog tags, etc.
13430  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] MGS4 with no previous MGS experience on: June 13, 2008, 10:27:16 PM
I've played through, like, 75% of MGS 1, something like 4 times.  I played through the ship level of 2 and never came back to it.  I didn't have a PS2, so I never played 3.

I suppose I could finish 1 on the Wii using the GC emulation.

I could also pick up 3 for the PS3's PS2 emulation.  I don't see adding 2 to the mix, though.

How long would you say each game takes?
13431  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Adam Sessler gets pissed about homophobes and racists on Live on: June 13, 2008, 10:20:19 PM

Quote from: KePoW on June 13, 2008, 08:14:37 PM

Quote from: Purge on June 13, 2008, 08:12:46 PM

KePoW, we know we can mute them. The problem is that by muting them they still spew off crap and although I've muted them, that doesn't mean they aren't still putting some unwilling audience through that crap

what 'unwilling audience'?  other people can't mute them?

I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I really don't understand why others can't mute them either or what the big deal is.  and again, muting is really a last resort and not something I do often... as jersoc and I said, it's really funny if you don't take it seriously.  no reason to get offended/upset at people over the internet that you will never meet.  to me, it's really the same thing as message forums, except one is the written word and the other is audible

The big deal is that it will become a big deal.  It really isn't helping the gaming community that this type of behavior isn't just prevelant it's encouraged or seen as not a big deal.

It's a huge deal that ten year olds think it's funny to hatefully label people as fags (or use the N word as a slur or, as I've even heard on one occaision, jew).  If this is accepted/encouraged at 10, what is that kid going to be like when he gets out into the real world and actually meets a homosexual (or worse, meets one and has no idea that he's met one).

The big problem is the hate behind it, not the word.  Words only have the weight we give them.  I could go on on that point for hours (ask me about my hilarious use of the C word at the absolute wrong time).  I myself have labeled things as Eighth Grade Gay (rather than just Gay), but I don't think I've ever called someone a "fucking fag" and meant it in the way some of these kids seem to.  It's not all kids.  Sure, I've laughed at some kids tossing tough talk around.  That's one thing.  It's this other crap that's the problem.  And it's not just kids, either, although they're the ones the media is going to jump on someday in the not too far off future.

Sure I can mute them.  I can even give them bad feedback.  That's not going to stop the behavior.  

Frankly, I can't understand how anyone can see this as not a big deal.  
13432  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Adam Sessler gets pissed about homophobes and racists on Live on: June 13, 2008, 10:01:51 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on June 13, 2008, 08:31:03 PM

The question for everyone commenting - do you take the time to give the people in question bad feedback on Live?

Yes.
13433  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Adam Sessler gets pissed about homophobes and racists on Live on: June 13, 2008, 05:00:59 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 13, 2008, 04:24:13 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 13, 2008, 04:21:33 PM

It's not a logic leap.  It's semantics.  When I used the term "Video Games," it was intended to be understood that I was talking about the hobby, i.e. playing video games, or even the culture of video gamers.  If you think for a half second that news agents and parent groups would make the distinction, "Oh, it's not those poor video games' fault, it's the people who play them," then you're in for a shock.

Well yeah you're right. I dunno. It's friday.

No problem.  I realize your post wasn't attack, either.  Sorry if my response came off as a little defensive.

Quote from: DragonFyre on June 13, 2008, 04:33:36 PM

I encountered exactly what the Sess did while playing fucking UNO on xbox live.

I had a similar experience.  This douchebag just would not shut the hell up.  He even started making fun of the J in my tag (I'm BullwinkleJ on Live).  He was ranting about how gay that was and who puts a J on Bullwinkle (he was, apparently, ignorant of Bullwinkle's middle initial).  I rarely play Uno with a headset on.  So he was goading me the whole damn game and did not get a single response from me.  I won every single hand and trounced him in the game.  He grew ever more furious and insulting.  I was very zen or Ghandi-esque or Carradine Kung-Fu-like.  Or at least I seemed that way because I wasn't responding on a mic.  I was screaming at the kid in my living room.  I was tempted to connect just to explain the whole J thing, but the sweet, silent revenge at the end was glorious.  I logged off, victorious, just as he was mid-fag.
13434  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official Rock Band DLC News, Impressions, and Comments Thread on: June 13, 2008, 04:26:24 PM

Quote from: DragonFyre on June 13, 2008, 03:59:04 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 13, 2008, 03:52:40 PM

Pixies "Doolittle" album is up next week!  Hooray!

Actually, it's up the week of the 24th, which is the week after next.

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55958

14 tracks...  eek

$18.99 (1520 Microsoft Points for Xbox 360) for the Album or $1.99 (160 Microsoft Points for Xbox 360) per track.

The Joystiq article I read just made the correction.

Quote from: denoginizer on June 13, 2008, 04:09:43 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 13, 2008, 03:52:40 PM

Pixies "Doolittle" album is up next week!  Hooray!

I have to confess that I don't know much about the Pixies except for Wave of Mutilation, which I don't care for.  I'm definitely out on the whole album.  I may get a few of the individual tracks depending on how the previews sound.

Some of the Pixies' stuff is a little too rough for my taste.  I picked up a greatest hits album a little while back and was surprised by how much I didn't like.  But "Doolittle" is close to perfection.
13435  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Adam Sessler gets pissed about homophobes and racists on Live on: June 13, 2008, 04:21:33 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 13, 2008, 04:15:05 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 13, 2008, 03:41:15 PM

Sessler makes an excellent point in the sense that, one of these days, the media is going to use a series of clips of 10 year olds calling people fag and dropping the N word over and over.  It'll take them all of 10 minutes to compile.  And then everyone's argument that video games are not damaging our youths will be right out the window.  Sadly, maybe they're even right in this sense.  The violence isn't a problem, it's being desensitized to hate-speech that is.

I think there should be a movement.  Microsoft should start it or get behind it.  Call it Auto-Kicking.  The very second some spouts some of this garbage, they get kicked.  If the movement picks up enough momentum, it would be doable, but it has to be out there as a concept so that folks will know why it's happening to them.  Basically, tossing this crap around needs to be made Not Cool.  Not being allowed to play will have that effect.


That's a huge logical leap- not your assertion- but the conclusion. How many games have you played that use the word nigger and fag? I've played very few...actually I don't know that I've played any.  So it's not the games- it's the people themselves.

And again, i must have some kind of magical wires into XBL, cause I very rarely encounter people spewing hatred and bigotry. 

It's not a logic leap.  It's semantics.  When I used the term "Video Games," it was intended to be understood that I was talking about the hobby, i.e. playing video games, or even the culture of video gamers.  If you think for a half second that news agents and parent groups would make the distinction, "Oh, it's not those poor video games' fault, it's the people who play them," then you're in for a shock.
13436  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official Rock Band DLC News, Impressions, and Comments Thread on: June 13, 2008, 03:52:40 PM
Pixies "Doolittle" album is up next week!  Hooray!
13437  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Adam Sessler gets pissed about homophobes and racists on Live on: June 13, 2008, 03:41:15 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on June 13, 2008, 03:28:52 PM

One night while playing with some GTers (unfortunately I can't remember who they were, although I'm pretty sure pr0ner was present), we went up against a number of fairly offensive homophobes.  While playing, rather than calling them on their idiocy and how archaic the term "fag" has become, I instead began hitting on some of the players during game loading screens so he and all of his friends could hear.

Homophobe: "I kicked your ass, you F-ing fag!"

Me: "You have a pretty voice."

Homophobe: "F&*K YOU!  F-ing fag!"

Me: "Seriously.  You sound like you must work out.  Have you ever experimented with another man?"

Homophobe talking with other online friends: "Dude, is he serious?  What an F-ing fag."

<<game starts, we win, back to lobby for next game to load>>

Homophobe: "F-ing fags must have cheated.  Using pussy guns.  I hate fags.  These guys are fags."

Me: "Hey, <<insert homophobe's gamertag>>, it's nice to hear your voice again.  I like your voice.  Didn't you say earlier that you like to work out?  I work out, too.  I have tattoos.  Do you like tattoos?  I can tell by your voice that you'd like mine.  Do you want to private chat?"

Homophobe: "F#$k you, man.  I ain't no fag.  You're a fag. 

Me: "I like when you say dirty words.

<<game starts, we win again, back to lobby for next game to load>>

Homophobe: "Dude, what the f#$k?  F-ing fags, WTF man?"

Me: "And so we meet again, <<insert homophobe's gamertag>>.  Why didn't you accept my private chat invite?  Worried about what your friends will think when they find out how you look at them?  They don't understand you.  But I would.

Homophobe: "Dude, this fag won't leave me alone.  F%#k you, fag.  Stop talking to me!  I'm not a fag!"

Me: "That's okay.  But I might help you change your mind.

<<entire homophobe team logs out>>

I've never heard pr0ner and any other GTers in attendance laugh so hard in my life.  I can't remember if SkyStride or Fuzzball were there as well, but we all laughed for quite a while after that.   icon_lol 

If you let it bother you, you wind up playing right into their hands.  But if you play along, usually they'll get too uncomfortable and you have an opportunity to have a laugh at their expense.  I just picked one particular person from the opposing team who seemed a bit too vocal with his homophobic vulgarity, and rather than fight back, I instead made him so uncomfortable in front of his friends that he quit. 

Don't fuck with the Sugarcookie.  Fabulous

That's beautiful and very Pete Rock.

Sessler makes an excellent point in the sense that, one of these days, the media is going to use a series of clips of 10 year olds calling people fag and dropping the N word over and over.  It'll take them all of 10 minutes to compile.  And then everyone's argument that video games are not damaging our youths will be right out the window.  Sadly, maybe they're even right in this sense.  The violence isn't a problem, it's being desensitized to hate-speech that is.

I think there should be a movement.  Microsoft should start it or get behind it.  Call it Auto-Kicking.  The very second some spouts some of this garbage, they get kicked.  If the movement picks up enough momentum, it would be doable, but it has to be out there as a concept so that folks will know why it's happening to them.  Basically, tossing this crap around needs to be made Not Cool.  Not being allowed to play will have that effect.
13438  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saints Row 2 starting a war with GTA 4? on: June 12, 2008, 11:34:32 PM

Quote from: Big Jake on June 12, 2008, 10:44:47 PM

To be honest, I found that commercial horribly annoying.  "We're Extreme 2 The MaX!!!!Roxxor!!!" was an terribly stupid selling point the first time it was tried back in the 80's and it gets dumber every year since it's been beat to death.  However, they scored a direct hit with all the crap taken out of GTA4 that fanboi's try to pretend never existed - Yes, as a matter of fact, I LOVED stealing the fire truck, and the ambulance, and the Taxi...you get the idea.  It would be great if SR2 becomes an comparable contender against GTA - competition only means the developers try harder to make a better game (See "Rock Band").

But...but...that does roxxor.

I think they're doing the right thing with this ad.

I just hope the story is good for Saints Row 2. 
13439  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Themes on: June 12, 2008, 05:12:03 AM

Quote from: Chaz on June 12, 2008, 04:34:12 AM

I just downloaded a batch of them, and I really wish you could disable the theme's sound.  I know you can turn off dashboard sounds totally, but I like having the little default ticking sound.  Some of the themes I found looked nice, but had loud, obnoxious sounds that play constantly. 

Agreed.  I did see a lot of themes with NO SOUND VERSION written after them.  Maybe there are alternate versions of the ones you picked.

There isn't a site like this for avatars is there?

Sony's avatars are la-ame.
13440  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Themes on: June 11, 2008, 09:12:54 PM

Quote from: KePoW on June 11, 2008, 08:04:38 PM

do they all have the logo in the bottom right?

I'd like to know that, too.

Also, can I download these straight from the PS3 browser?  My hunch is no.  Are they easy to transfer using an SD card?
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