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13241  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Okami Wii on: April 17, 2008, 08:47:50 PM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on April 17, 2008, 08:30:19 PM

I remember it looking nicer when I upscaled it on my PS3, but I haven't compared the two directly now that I have the Wii version as well. I only did up to the 'cut down the fruit' part then stopped last night, but I didn't have any issues with drawing. Only took one attempt for the rock, barricade and fruit. Don't paint the slash slowly, I think speed counts more here then perfectly horizontal.

Only problem I had was with 'restoring' the stardust river, only got partway across because I hadn't "painted" far enough over. Had to turn back, paint more and try again. Twice.  icon_lol

Thank you.  I was trying to be too precise, it seems.  Speed and less ink are the trick.  I have no problem at all now.

Quote from: wonderpug on April 17, 2008, 08:32:01 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 17, 2008, 08:21:19 PM

So, I picked up Okami for the Wii (can someone tell me what Okami means?  It's not the name of the character, but they list it when the character appears).

It's a play on words.  The word "okami" (with a line over the "O") means "wolf."  The word "kami" means "god," but you can put an "o" honorific in front of it to get okami.

Ah, that'll do it.  Thanks, WP, it felt like Toshiro Mifune was giving me that tip, himself.
13242  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Okami Wii on: April 17, 2008, 08:21:19 PM
So, I picked up Okami for the Wii (can someone tell me what Okami means?  It's not the name of the character, but they list it when the character appears).

I never played the PS2 version.  It looks very nice on the Wii.  Not what the system is capable of, but it is widescreen and it will work.

For the most part, the controls are good.  I'm having a real problem with the horizontal slash brush stroke, though.  The game seems to be incredibly picky about making it just right (I'm assuming "just right" means 100% horizontal).  Even on the very first test rock, it took me a dozen tries to get it.  This doesn't bode well for what seems like a technique that'll be used frequently. 

Anyone else have this issue?  Was it a similar problem on the PS2?  Man, it's irritating.
13243  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Another Spider-Man Game, really??? on: April 17, 2008, 06:43:06 PM

Quote from: rickfc on April 17, 2008, 06:28:52 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on April 17, 2008, 06:27:36 PM

I happen to enjoy spidey, so if the game is good, I'll get it.

I liked Spider-Man 1 and 2.  3 was pretty bad, and Friend or Foe, the demo anyway, was a complete joke.

I actually enjoyed FoF, but I understand it doesn't scratch most people's Spidey itch (especially when the only other game released at the time was Spider-Man 3).  I thought 1 was okay, but I liked 2 a lot and Ultimate Spider-Man was very good.
13244  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Wish Lists? on: April 17, 2008, 04:45:45 PM

Quote from: ras752000 on April 17, 2008, 11:59:31 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on April 16, 2008, 05:35:22 AM

As much as I like TOOL and all that, Led Zepplin would absolutely destroy anything else you could put in these kind of games. 
Maybe they are delaying announcing any Zep b/c they are working on making the whole box set into DLC?  icon_biggrin
And if they add only one more Bowie song . . . it must be "the man who sold the world" . . . that would even make some Nirvana fans happy.

MWSTW would be great.

I just posted a wish for the entirity of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars in the other topic.
13245  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: April 17, 2008, 04:44:12 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on April 17, 2008, 03:56:04 PM

Oh snap full album coming????  I hope it's good, I have a Rock Band party coming up in 9 days!

EDIT:  I would like to add that I hope it's Nirvana's album first up.

Nirvana's the only one they've mentioned, so I'm sure that'll happen.  Of course, they only have to release one more song off of Boston's first, but that would feel like a gyp.  Personally, I'm hoping we see Bowie's Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars.  Probably not right away, but what a great album.
13246  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSN Store redesign unveiled...but no updates until then?? on: April 17, 2008, 04:40:56 PM
My biggest issue with the store isn't really an interface one.  

I find it ridiculous that I have to download something, then find that thing in the XMB and install it (and wait for it to install).  That's ridiculous.  I also wish there was a way to group everything in user created folders, organized the way I want to do it.  I'd like a favorite game to appear in the folder, not just the latest I've downloaded.  And I want separate folders for demos and games.  Knowing me, there's probably a way to do that, but I haven't found it.

Overall, though, the redesign is a huge step forward, but it's not as polished as XBLM (which not only downloads something that is immediately useable, it gives you the option to find and play that item right away).
13247  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GT5 Prologue CAN'T FRIGGIN WAIT Thread on: April 17, 2008, 04:49:50 AM

Quote from: gellar on April 17, 2008, 03:28:04 AM

OK I didn't mind the install process for DMC4.  The install process for this is fucking maddening.  Install, THEN longass download?  ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME?

gellar

Great.  How big is the install?
13248  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 controller question on: April 17, 2008, 02:04:17 AM
Wait, what?  The Wiimote turns off when I power down the Wii.

And both the Wiimote and the 360 controller turn off if they've been sitting idle for a while.
13249  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 controller question on: April 16, 2008, 05:43:59 PM
Yeah, that bugs me a lot, too.
13250  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (4/14) on: April 16, 2008, 05:42:57 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on April 16, 2008, 05:36:47 PM

Quote from: fyedaddy on April 16, 2008, 05:26:01 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 16, 2008, 05:15:19 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 14, 2008, 07:18:56 PM

Quote from: EddieA on April 14, 2008, 06:25:15 PM

I might be getting Rocky & Bullwinkle for XBLA.  I love the WarioWare games and there aren't many games of this type out there.

I didn't realize that was this week!  Woot!  I hope it doesn't suck.

AND it sucks.

Do you at least get to pull a rabbit out of your hat?

Again?  That trick never works.

No doubt about it, I gotta get a new hat.
13251  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (4/14) on: April 16, 2008, 05:15:19 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 14, 2008, 07:18:56 PM

Quote from: EddieA on April 14, 2008, 06:25:15 PM

I might be getting Rocky & Bullwinkle for XBLA.  I love the WarioWare games and there aren't many games of this type out there.

I didn't realize that was this week!  Woot!  I hope it doesn't suck.

AND it sucks.
13252  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Fit available for pre-order now on: April 16, 2008, 04:13:54 PM

Quote from: DarkEL on April 16, 2008, 05:58:03 AM

I think this is a great parody of the Wii Fit video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iYBmAVuBns


That was very funny. 

"Wii fit looks great with anything from Ikea."  Genius.
13253  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Wish Lists? on: April 16, 2008, 05:27:22 AM
Heart!!!
13254  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: April 16, 2008, 03:28:44 AM

Quote from: Gratch on April 16, 2008, 01:57:25 AM

Quote from: jersoc on April 16, 2008, 01:33:27 AM

Thats what I thought. This may sound stupid, but how should i sit. i mean outside of the straight back. Should my ass be on the whole chair or hanging off a bit? Main reason I got a throne is because my computer chair would hit my thigh while playing. So it made fast kick pedal parts really hard at times. So I'm use to have my ass on the whole chair. I tried to google videos, but all I found didn't show how to sit, just about keeping the back straight and elbows close.

edit:I came across this link
http://www.drumsmylife.com/tips-for-a-healthy-back-vt8857.html

Suppose it depends on the size of your ass.  Tongue  Never thought about it before, but I suppose I sit with my butt smack in the middle of the chair.  I play the bass pedal with my heel up, so sitting too far forward on the throne throws off my balance.



I always felt that the pedal should be able to go further back into the drum set.  I'd love to be able to sit back while I play.
13255  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Any word on that Lair patch? on: April 15, 2008, 09:16:33 PM
I will give that a try tonight.  Good news, if so.

EDIT:  The right D-pad key is like a boost while the left one does the 180.  Fantastic.

I played another mission tonight and had a much better time with it.  However, there are still some problems that make the game seem unpolished.  For example:
Spoiler for Hiden:
I was making an assault on a laser-eye rotating multi-headed base and had to fly into a mouth, attach myself to a counter weight, then shake the controller up and down.  Supposedly, this told my dragon to claw at the chain of the counterweight until it came loose and, I guess, seal up a vent of some kind.  Problem is, my dragon just kind of sat there looking menacing and not moving.  The chain still got released, though.
  There seem to be a lot of instances where I'm not really sure what's going on, just all of a sudden I'm supposed to be hitting buttons or shaking the remote.  It doesn't help that there is no way for me to tell the dragons apart at all.  Basically, if I see a red targeting icon, I start shooting.  The lock on feature is a little odd, too.  I'm unclear how it kicks in, exactly.  Some times it seems to work, others not.  Sometimes it seems to put me in a one-on-one fight with some other dragon when I really just wanted to flame it.

There is fun to be had, for sure, though.  When the game looks nice, it looks really nice.  And the dragons are pretty cool.  It may be worth $20 to check it out.
13256  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Any word on that Lair patch? on: April 15, 2008, 06:15:36 PM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on April 15, 2008, 05:38:25 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 15, 2008, 05:27:30 PM

I played a few more.  Flying is great, but you still have to use the sixaxis for things like locked-on attacking and doing a 180.  Those don't work well at all.  Especially the 180.  I was flipping the damned controller all over the place, hoping I would turn around.  Grrr.


I found it easier to relax and sort of over-exaggerate without overdoing it...it would work pretty regularly using this method.

I'm sure I just haven't found the sweet-spot yet, but it's pretty frustrating.

Quote from: Destructor on April 15, 2008, 05:44:30 PM

So, here's the question - I avoided Lair simply due to the forced Sixaxis gameplay. Is the game worth grabbing now (at $20 or whatever it goes for) or not?

I've only played a handful of missions, but I will say I was planning on playing little else but this game today, and I think I'm done for a while.  There are other problems than just the sixaxis controls.  There are framerate issues aplenty, for one thing.  There are also weird hiccups in jumping to cut scenes.  It's WAY too dark on my TV.  Sometimes the graphics are stunning, and at others they're pretty unremarkable.

Most of my frustration is with that 180 move, though, so maybe after I calm down, I'll give it another go.  I still wouldn't pay full price, though.
13257  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Screw all this GTA4 & GT5 Talk - I want NPD Stats on: April 15, 2008, 06:10:54 PM

Quote from: kronovan on April 15, 2008, 05:57:29 PM

So where's the numbers? Sheesh...and I thought we had some talented hackers in this forum who could bust the stats out days before their official release.  icon_biggrin  I'm gettin tired of all this talk about 2 games I'm not planning on getting, so I need me some NPD diversion.

On a more serious note some analyst has been tossing around some unbelievable numbers today. Apparently he's claiming the Wii did 700K last month; gotta see it to believe it. I also read his claim that the PS3 did 365K and the 360 did 310K, which is  a damn significant jump in sales too! Probably just another asshat analyst with a broken calculator, but I'll eat crow if the predictions are true.

If they count used sales figures in there (which I know they don't), then I'm added to the PS3 list.  Honestly, though, I think the death of HD DVD is going to have those PS3 numbers climbing, especially after refund/economic stimulus checks arrive.
13258  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Any word on that Lair patch? on: April 15, 2008, 05:27:30 PM
I played a few more.  Flying is great, but you still have to use the sixaxis for things like locked-on attacking and doing a 180.  Those don't work well at all.  Especially the 180.  I was flipping the damned controller all over the place, hoping I would turn around.  Grrr.
13259  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSN Store redesign unveiled...but no updates until then?? on: April 15, 2008, 04:20:59 PM

Quote from: KePoW on April 15, 2008, 03:46:01 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 15, 2008, 03:15:31 PM

Quote from: The Grue on April 15, 2008, 05:32:49 AM

Looks like the pictures in the store are slowly getting populated.  I really like the store and I think I might dare say I like it better than the XBox one.

I gotta say no on that for me.  This is a huge improvement over what was there, but it's nowhere near XBLM.

how is XBLM so much better?  I mean, it might still be a little better (haven't decided yet), but it's certainly not a big difference anymore

I find it clearer to read and easier to navigate.  It also loads much faster.  Part of the reason for that is the clean layout.  Yes, the alphabetical grouping is nice, especially given the massive amount of content on XBLM, but if I'm looking for something specific, I can use the shoulder buttons and scroll to it in a matter of seconds. 

I also like that XBLM is designed for my widescreen HDTV.  The size of the PS Store still makes it feel like an afterthought.
13260  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSN Store redesign unveiled...but no updates until then?? on: April 15, 2008, 03:15:31 PM

Quote from: The Grue on April 15, 2008, 05:32:49 AM

Looks like the pictures in the store are slowly getting populated.  I really like the store and I think I might dare say I like it better than the XBox one.

I gotta say no on that for me.  This is a huge improvement over what was there, but it's nowhere near XBLM.
13261  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Any word on that Lair patch? on: April 15, 2008, 03:11:48 PM
I only got the chance to fly through the rings at the beginning, but wow, that makes a huge difference.
13262  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Any word on that Lair patch? on: April 15, 2008, 05:17:37 AM
It seems to have come online with the System Update.  Look for it in the new store.
13263  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSN Store redesign unveiled...but no updates until then?? on: April 15, 2008, 05:16:24 AM
The Lair update is live, too. 

And being new to the PS3, I'm not sure if this was available before, but there is now a file that will let you play PS2 games that required the PS2 HDD.
13264  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Wish Lists? on: April 14, 2008, 10:20:18 PM
Thanks for starting this thread.  It'll save space in the RB thread.

Here are some songs I suggested/promoted there:

"Radar Love" - Golden Earing (seconded here, too)

"Reelin in the Years" - Steely Dan (or "Bodhisattva," "FM," or "Do It Again")

"Rock This Town" - Stray Cats

"Goldfinger" - Tribe

"And She Was" or "Psycho Killer - Talking Heads (or anything)

"Sweet Home Alabama"  - Lynyrd Skynyrd

"Blue Jean" - David Bowie (I also support more Bowie - "Ziggy" would be phenomenal - just no more covers)

Anything - Eric Clapton (though I'd especially love to have the endurance testing "The Core")

Anything - The GoGos (for the goofy fun factor)

Anything - INXS

Anything - Sly & the Family Stone (or Paliament or other funk)

BEATLES (don't let GH get 'em)

LED ZEPPELIN (see above)
13265  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSN Store redesign unveiled...but no updates until then?? on: April 14, 2008, 07:21:08 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on April 14, 2008, 04:36:01 PM

Just got this email from the ps.blog:

Quote
Hi, everyone! Just wanted to provide an update about the PlayStation Store. The store for both the PS3 and PC will be unavailable starting early morning Monday, April 14 through early morning of Tuesday, April 15. You will not be able to access either store during this maintenance window.

As you know, we are preparing to release the revamped interface of the PlayStation Store for the PS3, which will be available on Tuesday. Regular weekly updates of the store will resume on Thursday, April 17, along with the release of GT5 Prologue.

Thanks for all the positive feedback about the upcoming store design!

So that means, what, the store is unavailable now (and started sometime after midnight), and the new one will be up after midnight tonight (but presumably before I get up)?  Right?
13266  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (4/14) on: April 14, 2008, 07:18:56 PM

Quote from: EddieA on April 14, 2008, 06:25:15 PM

I might be getting Rocky & Bullwinkle for XBLA.  I love the WarioWare games and there aren't many games of this type out there.

I didn't realize that was this week!  Woot!  I hope it doesn't suck.

I am all over Okami.

Maybe Sherlock Holmes: Nemesis.  I liked the last one.
13267  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bully-Xbox 360 Final Analysis. Worth A Purchase? on: April 14, 2008, 02:32:10 AM
If you're not into GTA type games (as you mentioned), this one still might work.  It's on a much smaller scale (at least it seems so to me, I have only made it into the town).  The only thing that's mildly ridiculous is the class schedule and making sure you get to class.  It sounds worse than it is, though, especially because once you pass a class you don't have to go again.  Then it's easy to focus on collecting and the story.

Absolutely worth $40, if you have a BB near you.

No problems since the patch for me, either, BTW.
13268  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mario Kart Wii Impressions on: April 12, 2008, 03:59:07 PM

Quote from: kronovan on April 10, 2008, 07:27:52 PM

Quote from: Lee on April 10, 2008, 03:49:26 PM

Isn't the wheel just a plastic thingy to hold the remote? It doesn't actually improve the controls of the game besides making it easier to hold on to right?

True, but how it's designed can make all the difference. Consider the Wii light gun attachments as an example. They're just pieces of plastic that hold the wiimote and nunchuk, but it's how they've been designed to encase the controllers that makes all the difference. Case in point is the difference between the Wii Blaster and the Nyko Perfect Shot. I've spent a lot of time with both and I can confidently say the Perfect Shot is much superior to Big N's design. In fact the blaster design makes some gameplay mechanics quite ineffective.

The shape and size of the Wiimote wheel could also be quite important as it going to have to be able to accommodate a lot of different hand sizes.

I heard in some video hands-on a while back that the wheel does make a difference in control.  Apparently, without it you have to tilt to extremes, while the wheel makes things feel more natural.
13269  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: April 11, 2008, 07:30:11 PM
Blondie's great!  What are you talking about?  Not really classic rock, though.  Who cares, I'll take 'em all!
13270  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Impressions! on: April 11, 2008, 03:08:37 AM
My four year old daughter just requested some Stray Cats.  "Rock this Town" anyone?
13271  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Playstation Eye on: April 10, 2008, 08:00:02 PM

Quote from: depward on April 10, 2008, 03:45:42 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 10, 2008, 01:03:38 PM

I'm on the fence about the Playstation Eye.  I'm not sure how much play I'll get out of Eye of Judgement, as I'd only be playing it single player, but I'd pay a little extra to get it, I suppose.  How are the other games for it?

Also, I have heard that it is NOT compatible with the Eyetoy games, has anyone tested that?

Have a Fred Meyer around your area?  Their Eye of Judgment is on clearance...

I haven't played any other games for the Eye but I heard Trials of Topeq (or something along those lines) is supposed to be pretty fun.  Looked at some video when it released and it did indeed look kinda fun.

Also, I heard that it isn't compatible as well, though I haven't tested it.

I don't even know what a Fred Meyer is.

I did just get a Best Buy coupon for $10 off $75 or more in games.  That may work.
13272  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Blue Ray Discs - Buy Two, Get One @ Barnes and Noble on: April 10, 2008, 01:07:41 PM
This is a better deal than the Amazon one.  Every title.

There's your respect. icon_smile
13273  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Playstation Eye on: April 10, 2008, 01:03:38 PM
I'm on the fence about the Playstation Eye.  I'm not sure how much play I'll get out of Eye of Judgement, as I'd only be playing it single player, but I'd pay a little extra to get it, I suppose.  How are the other games for it?

Also, I have heard that it is NOT compatible with the Eyetoy games, has anyone tested that?
13274  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Pinball FX table coming to XBLA=Greatest Ever on: April 10, 2008, 04:34:20 AM

Quote from: Misguided on April 09, 2008, 09:11:54 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on April 09, 2008, 09:01:35 PM

sorry,i think you need the full game...but i would recommend it,it comes with 3 tables,and there are 3 tables to download(including the new R+B)

There are 2 others for download? I had no idea.
Are they this good?


The other two tables are better than the ones that came with the game, but I'm starting to think R&B is the best table by far.
13275  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I want a PS3. Am I NUTS? on: April 09, 2008, 06:54:57 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on April 09, 2008, 05:55:13 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on April 07, 2008, 09:02:36 PM

I want one too and promised myself I'd get one when we bought a new house... then the houseing market went to hell, then they started laynig off folks at work, then I incurred 5 digit medical expenses...

I want a PS3.

... and I just swung by Gamestop on my way back from lunch to see if there were any reasouably priced (ha!) used 360 games. As I perused the selection, one salesmonkey says to the other, "Still 3 Wiis in stock after noon, that may be a record." It took me 10 minute to convince myself to walk out of the store empty handed.

I'm such a lemming.

Did he say, "Hint hint" and wink at you as well?
13276  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I want a PS3. Am I NUTS? on: April 09, 2008, 05:49:42 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on April 09, 2008, 05:37:51 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 09, 2008, 04:57:21 PM

As I've said, I do intend to play the sequels some day, but I'm not buying them until I finish the first games.  That said, I'm cutting them out of the list of games I need to buy.
As long as you do get to those sequels!  For example, I'd hate to have missed Final Fantasy XII but I personally could go either way on Final Fantasy X.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 09, 2008, 04:39:32 PM

I almost picked up Klonoa 2 today, in fact (I did pick up Frequency).  The only reason I didn't is that, though I love the genre, I'm already lousy with PS2 platformers.

But how many 2d sidescrolling platformers are on your plate?  smile  Klonoa 2 was missed by far too many people, and it's a pretty quick ride.

No 2D ones.  I did love the first Klonoa GBA game.  Sigh.  I'm sure I'll pick it up now if I see it.
13277  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I want a PS3. Am I NUTS? on: April 09, 2008, 04:57:21 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on April 09, 2008, 04:47:53 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 09, 2008, 04:39:32 PM

I have a bunch of PS2 games, and I'm already enjoying them.  It's just not as staggering a number as I was expecting.  Cutting out most RPGs and sequels (and non-exclusives) really cuts that number down.  I think I have, like, a dozen, as opposed to the 50+ I thought I would.

Why would you cut out sequels automatically?  If the first isn't your cup of tea, sure, but Ratchet & Clank 1 being great doesn't stop Going Commando from being vastly superior and even more deserving of play.  That's the case with most PS2 series, the vast majority of which had sequels that were superior to the original. 

As I've said, I do intend to play the sequels some day, but I'm not buying them until I finish the first games.  That said, I'm cutting them out of the list of games I need to buy.

Quote
Hope you didn't pay too much for Persona 3.  P3: FES comes out shortly, at $30, and features all of the content of the original in improved form plus 20-30 hours of bonus content.  Of couse P3 was a fantastic game even in it's original release so it's not that big of a deal. 

Didn't know that.  I'll be taking it back, then.
13278  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I want a PS3. Am I NUTS? on: April 09, 2008, 04:39:32 PM
I almost picked up Klonoa 2 today, in fact (I did pick up Frequency).  The only reason I didn't is that, though I love the genre, I'm already lousy with PS2 platformers.  And I do want to make my way through those.

I also just bought Persona 3 on a whim, because I saw it used and thought it might be a tough one to find.  Don't know when I'll play through it, though.  And I guess I will pick up FF X, just because I feel like I should.

I have a bunch of PS2 games, and I'm already enjoying them.  It's just not as staggering a number as I was expecting.  Cutting out most RPGs and sequels (and non-exclusives) really cuts that number down.  I think I have, like, a dozen, as opposed to the 50+ I thought I would.
13279  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I want a PS3. Am I NUTS? on: April 09, 2008, 03:59:50 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on April 09, 2008, 01:48:47 PM

Quote from: Ridah on April 09, 2008, 04:50:30 AM

There's no doubt that the PS2 had some high quality stuff but I don't feel it's quite as extravagent as some people make it out to be. It was a platform of sequels and rehashes, that's about it. The PSX is where most of the best franchises were born, or, reborn (in the case of Final Fantasy 7).

There's the FF series, MGS series, RE4, Devil May Cry series, GT3, GTA3/VC/SA, Shadow of the Colossus, God of War series, ICO, Jak and Daxter series, Ratchet & Clank series, Sly Clooper series, Okami, Prince of Persia series, the Splinter Cell series, some niche JRPGs, Twisted Metal Black, the Dark Cloud series, Beyond Good and Evil... Really that's about it. Not to trivialize any of these games but there just wasn't ALL that many top-quality games on the platform outside of sequels and sequels of more sequels.

Dude, I don't know if you counted but, including each entry in those series you mentioned, you listed over 40 titles!!! 

Personally, PS2 is absolutely the best console I've ever owned and, based on what I've seen so far, I don't see that changing this generation. 

But I'm not counting each entry in those series.  I'm only playing the first of each one for now.  If/when I finish, I'll move on to the next one, but you see how that cuts down on the number of must-haves?
13280  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I want a PS3. Am I NUTS? on: April 09, 2008, 03:31:20 AM

Quote from: semiconscious on April 08, 2008, 10:32:21 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on April 08, 2008, 08:56:44 PM

If you're underwhelmed by the PS2 library of games I don't think there's any hope for you in this hobby. slywink

+1...

Well, I'm really talking about PS2 exclusives only, and I don't have the time commitment to jump into a lot of RPGs (I'm going to try Kingdom Hearts and Dragon Quest, but, frankly, the FF series is too overwhelming and everything else just adds too much time).  I'm trying to start at the beginning of series like GoW, Sly, Jak, Ratchet, etc., and I'm sure I'll play more in those series, but I was expecting to be far more overloaded than I am.
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