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13201  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saints Row 2 on: December 03, 2008, 02:45:50 PM
I was just playing along when an achievement popped up: Soprano.  I wasn't really doing anything, but was on my way to a hit on a motorcycle, which I thought might be related.  I pulled up the dash and saw this description: "Sung along to the radio."  Sure enough, when I got back into the game, my girl was singing along to "Everybody Wants to Rule the World."  Badly.
13202  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/1) on: December 03, 2008, 02:17:49 PM
A Vampyre Story just got pushed to next week, BTW.
13203  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Prince of Persia screenshot on: December 03, 2008, 01:44:55 PM

Quote from: mikeg on December 03, 2008, 12:41:39 PM

Quote from: naednek on December 03, 2008, 03:46:19 AM

Just watched the video on gametrailers.com.  As I imagined, this will be a rental,or possibly skipped outright.  The fact that you can't die, and that they force you to go back and basically repeat the level (in reverse) to get some orbs seems a little, well boring. 

I am with you on this.  Having to play the whole level in reverse to get the orbs, which are needed for the upgrades as I understand it, seems like a lame attempt to pad length.   Even though I have the game preordered I am waffling now and may bail altogether.  Drats.  This was my last bastion of hope for this year.

I haven't watched the vids, but if the retread is at all similar to what was done in the recent Wario platformer, it could work.  In each level there, you had to work your way in then race back out, but you took a slightly different path, so it didn't feel completely repetitious.

I'm actually all for the easy aspect of this game, as long as there's a flow to the gameplay/story.  I found the combat to be a mild PITA in previous games.  The platforming felt like the meat of it, but sometimes it was too brutal.  Like, not so much challenging as designed to F you up.
13204  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: your 2008 sleepers on: December 03, 2008, 01:37:11 PM

Quote from: Caine on December 03, 2008, 01:20:23 AM

Quote from: EddieA on December 02, 2008, 08:54:40 PM

A Kingdom For Keflings on XBLA.  It looked interesting from the screenshots, but it's quickly become my favorite game on XBLA.

have to agree so far.  i played this last night instead of all of the great stuff i have now.  crazy that an arcade game gets my attention that far.

I'm amazed how often I keep coming back to this myself, though I'm not quite at GOTY status for it.
13205  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Destroy All Humans!: Path of the Furon on: December 02, 2008, 10:46:09 PM
Okay, second review I've seen is even worse.  1Up has given it a D (which equals 25% on metacritic)!  They called it a "an out-of-touch, thoroughly unpolished romp through mediocrity." Yowza. 

13206  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Community Games XBLM on: December 02, 2008, 03:10:43 PM

Quote from: Bob on December 02, 2008, 02:58:30 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 02, 2008, 01:41:55 PM

Matt, if you're still around and not just popping an ad in, I have a question.  Can you download designed courses to play by yourself or can you only play courses others designed when you meet them online?

He covered that in his response up there actually.  Right now, you can only see other people's courses when you play with the course's creator online.  But he's hoping to patch in the ability to download courses.

You're right.  It's there.  For some reason, I read that as people can share their courses online on the website.  I need sleep.
13207  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jasper is on the market..... on: December 02, 2008, 03:08:50 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 02, 2008, 03:03:07 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 02, 2008, 02:37:00 PM

You can still use a memory card.

Right but then it's an extra expense instead of being bundled with the Arcade unit.  So basically my "cost" of a second 360 went up with this move. 

I see what you're saying.
13208  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jasper is on the market..... on: December 02, 2008, 02:37:00 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 02, 2008, 02:05:47 PM

Standard HD would have no effect at t his point-  devs still have to to support HDD-less 360s since those SKUS are already on the market. 

I actually think the 256 internal memory is kind of a bummer- I'm strongly considering getting a second 360 so I can have access to the Netflix stuff in my living room but I would prefer the memory card so I can move my saves/profiles between my consoles.  Internal memory won't let me do that. 

You can still use a memory card.
13209  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: December 02, 2008, 02:09:54 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on December 02, 2008, 04:05:26 AM

My history with this game:

1. Heard about it, thought the concept was neat.  Another game to look forward to.
2. Amazon has a pre-order deal for 48.00 shipped. I preorder
3. Demo came out. Played it once. It was fun, but unimpressive
4. I get around to canceling my pre-order too late. Amazon ships the game. I'm totally bummed. 48.00 out the window
5. I'm out of town so I can't play it. I get home, have a weekend planned to play it via the MP forum but am overwhelmed and exhausted from the trip. I don't game at all that weekend.
6. I finally recover and try to set up a match with a couple of GTers. Everyone's a no show until I'm too tired to play.
7. Finally get a game together with Bullwinkle and Spigot.  Have an absolute riot
8. Play with some randoms and have a great time.
9. Play tonight with DamgeInc and two bots.  Am blown away at how competent the bots are.  We spend an hour and 10 minutes working through the blood harvest campaign.  Neither of us knows where to go and we suffer some consequences like more respawns (we think) as we dally about trying to explore and figure out what's going on.  Our teamwork isn't all that sharp either as we don't fortify that well before the horde attacks.

We eventually radio for help.  We all defend the farmhouse bravely and the US Army shows up.  Damage runs for the APC and gets in. One of our bots is down in the distance. He's a gonner. I race toward the APC. I see another of our bots, Zoey,  get knocked down and open up on her attackers.  She's gonna make.....TANK Zombie attacks the APC and punches me 40 feet from the vehicle. I'm cooked I'm for sure.  But I manage to get back up and race to the APC emptying my gun into the tank that is now mauling Zoey...no avail. I say sorry! and get into the vehicle. Damage and I escape.

10. This is a darkhorse for GOTY.  I haven't even tried versus yet.  What an absolute gem so far.

Sorry I couldn't join you last night, SL.  Just wasn't up to it.  I needed to punch some things (having the Joker pound Batman into the ground helped scratch that itch).  I was a little cranky yesterday.  Sorry if I irked too many people.  I certainly didn't mean to create any nemeses.

I went through a similar experience as SL had.  The demo didn't do much for me, personally, but I took a chance on it based on reviews and impressions, and I can't believe I almost missed this game.  Moments like he's talking about at the end literally happen ALL THE TIME.  Plus it's just so well constructed and balanced.  It's a shame to see that point missed.
13210  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Dungeon Keeper MMO or Holy Crap turns to Aw, crap. on: December 02, 2008, 01:52:39 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on December 02, 2008, 04:33:03 AM

Why is this in Console Gaming?

Because I don't go into the MMM thread.   Also, when I saw the announcement, I assumed it would be for consoles (Left 4 Dead is still in that one, for example).

I agree with Lordnine.  An MMO of Dungeon Keeper is one of the few MMO ideas I've been interested in.

But if any interest in reviving Dungeon Keeper happens, I'm interested.
13211  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: your 2008 sleepers on: December 02, 2008, 01:47:44 PM

Quote from: Gratch on November 28, 2008, 01:38:37 AM

Quote from: jersoc on November 27, 2008, 07:52:48 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 27, 2008, 03:16:45 PM

Braid.

Thread over.

The world ends with you.

Now the thread is over.


Neither of those games did anything for me.

Game on.

Liked Braid.  But now I'm going to slam TWEWY.  Get ready.  I did not care for it.  BAM!
13212  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves revealed! on: December 02, 2008, 01:45:36 PM

Quote from: Canuck on December 02, 2008, 08:02:33 AM

I don't care if it's the exact same engine so long as it's a great new story and new environments.  Whatever these guys can do to get the game out as quickly and cheaply (efficiently) as possible I am all for it.  I just finished my second playthrough although I feel a bit cheated by the whole medal thing not being backwards compatible.  What a fantastic, fantastic game.  Sensuous better not come in here and sully the thread with his comments about it being simply an above average game.

I'm actually waiting to start over, I think.  I didn't get all the way through it when the trophy announcement came, then by the time it was stated that they wouldn't be retroactive, I'd already waited a long time.
13213  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Destroy All Humans!: Path of the Furon on: December 02, 2008, 01:43:11 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 02, 2008, 02:25:53 AM

maybe it's a blessing they canceled the PS3 version.  or maybe they'll fix the game and then release the PS3 version, and promise a patch for the other versions but then add 'only if the PS3 version sells well' to the patch requirement.....

That could never happen.  Why just the thought of it makes me feel alienated and scared.  Almost like I'm alone in the dark.  Inferno.


Looking forward to your comments, Shifty.
13214  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Community Games XBLM on: December 02, 2008, 01:41:55 PM

Quote from: Barkers Crest on December 01, 2008, 09:10:37 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on November 22, 2008, 03:58:49 PM


I recommend checking out the Easy Golf game.  Unfortunately, it's 800 points, but there is the ability to design courses.  It's a pretty slick little golf game.

Others I've been interested in:

Colosseum (as I mentioned)
Weapon of Choice (pretty slick platform/shooter)
In the Pit
Blow (kind of like Eets with bubbles)
Artoon (puzzle/jumping game)

I haven't actually bought anything yet, but I think I may go in for Easy Golf, Colosseum and Weapon of Choice.

I also just saw Classic Card Games, which I will buy if it has Euchre and is any good.  And a game called Arriba!  I don't know what it is (the screenshot doesn't show much), but I'm downloading it anyway.

Hey Bullwinkle.  This is Matt, the creator of Easy Golf.  Thanks for you interest in Easy Golf.  If you haven't given the course editor a try I highly suggest it.  It is really the heart and soul of the game.  I've had some people email me and say that the course editor was worth 800 points by itself.

We are starting to build up a community of Easy Golf fanatics.  You can read what some people who have the full version are saying about the game on the xbox forums http://forums.xbox.com/1104/ShowForum.aspx.  I also have some links on my webpage www.barkerscrest.com so you can see what reviewers are saying about the game.

If Easy Golf is not your thing that is ok.  If it might be give the designer a try and see if it is your thing.

Right now people can share their courses online through multiplayer but I'm working on an update so that people can download other peoples courses and play them locally.

Thanks for your interest in Easy Golf and I hope to see you online,

Matt Davis

Matt, if you're still around and not just popping an ad in, I have a question.  Can you download designed courses to play by yourself or can you only play courses others designed when you meet them online?
13215  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Destroy All Humans!: Path of the Furon on: December 02, 2008, 01:30:40 AM
First review I've seen is from OXM, a dreadful 4.5/10!


Quote
Steadfast alien worshippers might’ve forgiven a lot if Path of the Furon featured the same quality of off-color comedy that used to define the series. Crypto once overflowed with clever one-liners and film references, persistent mind-reading yielded unexpected silliness, and the sex-obsessed Arkvoodle could please a crowd. Here, you’ll find little beyond groaners, pedestrian prattle, and underdeveloped monotony. Find another path to walk.

http://www.oxmonline.com/article/reviews/xbox-360/a-f/destroy-all-humans-path-furon
13216  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves revealed! on: December 02, 2008, 01:14:07 AM
Teaser trailer:  http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43231.html
13217  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves revealed! on: December 02, 2008, 12:11:18 AM
Any word on an ETA for this?
13218  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jasper, is on the market..... on: December 01, 2008, 10:49:45 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 01, 2008, 08:01:21 PM

Quote from: farley2k on December 01, 2008, 07:35:41 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 01, 2008, 07:26:20 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 01, 2008, 07:08:03 PM

In unrelated news, the Grammar Nazi in my would like to ask that the comma in the Subject line gets removed.

Ah, the sweet, sweet irony....

Well they did say grammar not spelling.

Spelling would imply that there's a misspelled word there, which there isn't.  Those keys have "rt" between them.  I see a syntax error, which falls under grammar.  There's either a word being misused or a word missing.

In other news, Bullwinkle is my new nemesis.  slywink

Yeah, we've butted heads a bit today, but I give you this one, for sure.  I'm an idjit.
13219  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: December 01, 2008, 10:43:36 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on December 01, 2008, 07:14:07 PM

I'ma dismiss all you all from my impressions thread for starting another pointless argument. People like games people don't like others.

And I'll leave this thread for dead (nyuk nyuk) when I ask the mods to lock it.  (Look at me wonderpug! Look at me!)

Bah!  I don't like people who like that people like games, people don't like others, people!
13220  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jasper, is on the market..... on: December 01, 2008, 07:08:03 PM

Quote from: mytocles on December 01, 2008, 06:35:27 PM

I'm afraid I'm still "IN!"  I seem to prefer XBox games far more than others, just in general.

Quote
The photos look legit. The power supply is the strongest piece of evidence here. The previous version of the Xbox 360 required 175 watts and higher. As you can see from the photo, Jasper runs just dandy with 150 watts.

I've been waiting for the Jasper ever since I heard of it, but since you can't be sure you have a Jasper unit without opening the box (MS has removed the wattage info from the box), I'm trying to wait for more "proof" that they are on store shelves.  I have two launch units, and they are both giving signs of possible on-the-horizon problems. For me, at least, I figure I've gotten my money's worth out of both of them.  Although I was extremely lucky, obviously, I'm not willing to rely on luck for the next 360.  If I have to play PS2 and Wii games until I can be assured of a Jasper unit, then so be it.  icon_cry


Make sure you get the next one from Costco or Sam's Club.  They will let you exchange for a new one with no hassles.  One of the member benefits.  I expect to exchange my current one when I hear they've got Jaspers in stock.


In unrelated news, the Grammar Nazi in my would like to ask that the comma in the Subject line gets removed.
13221  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Dungeon Keeper MMO or Holy Crap turns to Aw, crap. on: December 01, 2008, 07:04:29 PM
http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1688380#post1688380

A Dungeon Keeper MMO?!?!  ...but only if you live in China.
13222  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: December 01, 2008, 06:58:59 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 01, 2008, 06:50:53 PM

My sticking point is your repeated use of the word "dismissive."

To me, dismissive is looking at the screenshots/movies/ads and calling it crap.  Both of us played the game and made decisions based on our personal experiences.  We gave the game more of a chance than many others did. 

What may be key elements to you may not be something that is key to us.

Dismissive - indicating dismissal or rejection; having the purpose or effect of dismissing, as from one's presence or from consideration.

Maybe I'll try to have a thesaurus handy in future, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em.   icon_wink

And the key elements I'm talking about here are things that are cornerstones of the gameplay.  It's not a question of them being integral to the design or not.  They are key.  If you don't like them, that's another story, but if you missed them, they should be pointed out.
13223  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: December 01, 2008, 06:47:23 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on December 01, 2008, 06:12:29 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 01, 2008, 05:35:09 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on December 01, 2008, 04:52:02 PM

Quote from: Chaz on November 29, 2008, 08:40:15 PM

No, there is no storyline, but there isn't one in CoD multiplayer either.  The story and investment comes from working with your teammate to survive.  If you're playing on normal, then I can understand not seeing that, since surviving is so easy.

Not sure what difficulty we were playing on, but the difference between COD MP and Left4Dead is that in COD you're competing against other human players.  In Left4Dead you're merely playing against enemy AI.  Perhaps that is where it falls short for me.  You don't necessarily need a story in MP, but I like competition, and in COD you're competing directly against an opposing team.  Perhaps it's due to all of the sports I watch and play, but I like the competition aspect of versus MP and I just lost interest in fighting wave after wave of enemy AI.  There just didn't feel like much of a point.  At least in games like Halo 3 and Gears of War 2, yes you're still fighting against enemy AI, but there's a point to it all and a story unfolds. 

Left4Dead just isn't for me, and it seems rather simplistic and empty to be lauded as much as it has been. 

It's simplistic in the way that Halo was simplistic.  It gets to the root of what works and pulls it together extremely well.

The bigger issue for you, Pete, seems to be in the gameplay style.  If you're coming right off of COD and Halo and even GoW2, then you're going to be thinking in terms of run and gun, but that can get you in situations like the buddy Sensuous Lettuce and I were playing with.  This game is all about the teamwork, even in the Versus modes.  You've played it a couple of times, but didn't give it a chance to wow you on its own merits versus what you were expecting.  I think your defenses might be up about it now (since you're still dismissing it - instead of seeing that it's getting praise everywhere and wondering if you've missed something, you give the impression that millions of Elvis fans can, in fact, be wrong), so I don't know that you could be convinced, but there is a reason it's being lauded.

But because a game is liked by some, or even many, does not suggest that it should be liked by all.  It isn't the style of gameplay, as I don't run-and-gun in games like COD, but the very gameplay itself.  I attempted to play through the demo a number of times, constantly wondering what it was that I was missing, and on Thanksgiving I had an opportunity to play alongside a friend, and still didn't find the game to be any more appealing.  While teamwork is at the heart of the game's focus, and while playing alongside friends can be fun, there was simply something missing from the game to draw me in.  

It's not any one thing that turned me off or underwhelmed me.  Everything simply came together as a mediocre and oversimplified product.  For me.  While it may not be a bad game, I'm happy to finally be able to cross one off of my must-buy list.

You can overanalyze why I don't like it all you want.  But I want more from a game, and this one just unfortunately didn't live up to my own expectations, whether you think I wasn't playing it "right" or not.  I gave it a number of chances, and wanted to like it.  And even despite that I kept coming away underwhelmed, wondering what the fuss is about.  That's fine, as I don't feel I need to be defensive, and I don't think I'm missing out on anything as most MP games have a short lifespan (look at Gears 2 MP - it barely maintained popularity for a week).  I'm simply not impressed, and having played it a number of times, I'm in this case the rare voice of dissent.  

That's fine, and I didn't mean to imply that you would like it if you gave it a chance.  I understand not liking it, and it may be inherent in the gameplay style, was my point. 

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 01, 2008, 05:54:12 PM

Some of us don't like the game.  This is an impressions thread.  We've read your pamphlet and it has not swayed us.  Calling us dismissive of it is being dismissive of our opinions.  Both Pete and I played the game and do not care for it. 

It is being lauded everywhere because a lot of people like it.  Everyone does not.  It can be lauded as a great game.  It doesn't mean everyone likes it.  Not everyone is an Elvis fanboy either. 

I'm the first to agree that negative impressions should be voiced in threads (see my comments on the various Little Big Planet threads -and that's a game I like, to a degree).  What I don't agree with is a dismissive tone that does seem to miss some key elements of the game, such as the one KG mentioned from Pete and your comment:
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I got CoD:[email protected]  I'm covered on MP fun.
  That's like saying I eat Apple Pie, so I'm covered in the fruit department.  Okay, maybe not quite that.  And you're allowed to say that, but it implies that you've dismissed the game, because COD and L4D are very different experiences.
13224  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tomb Raider: Underworld on: December 01, 2008, 05:41:07 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 01, 2008, 04:59:17 PM

Quote from: kronovan on December 01, 2008, 04:49:41 PM

It's one of the things I didn't agree with Legend; her overall character was portrayed too softly.

See that's one of the things I appreciated about Legend- it actually gave some context to her character and made me feel like she really cared for these sites (especially with her line to the emtombed Arthur- "I wouldn't take Excalibur if I didn't need it so") but also made it clear that her family took even higher priority.  Combined with the radio commentary with Zip and Alister, Legend actually defined and developed her character more in one game than the rest of the series combined.  In the previous games I always felt she was a bit more of a blank slate. 

The relic smashing of Underworld *is* incongruous to that aspect of her character but I just chalk it up to a gameplay convention.  Given that Underworld finally introduced a tranq gun to alleviate that other long standing complaint that Lara is a bit too casual about harming animals in their natual habitats I won't be surprised if the relic smashing is altered/improved for the next game. 

Of course, it could also be that they've evolved her character to the casual wrecklessness that kronovan mentions because now she's pissed.  But I think it more likely that we're all reading too much into it and it was a simple way to plop shiny things into the game.
13225  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/1) on: December 01, 2008, 05:38:29 PM

Quote from: Farscry on December 01, 2008, 04:34:34 PM

Wow. You know, the DS has a solid batch of some of my favorite games over the last few years, and the Wii has a solid selection of AAA titles too, but GEEZ do they both get a lot of crapware released on them. saywhat

Nothing for me this week.

I saw a bunch of articles recently about how Wii titles hit the bargain bins faster than other the other console's games.  But I think that's a factor of being the most popular console and just having a slew of crap released for it.  It's a percentage thing.  I'd wager the same thing happened with the PS2.
13226  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: December 01, 2008, 05:35:09 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on December 01, 2008, 04:52:02 PM

Quote from: Chaz on November 29, 2008, 08:40:15 PM

No, there is no storyline, but there isn't one in CoD multiplayer either.  The story and investment comes from working with your teammate to survive.  If you're playing on normal, then I can understand not seeing that, since surviving is so easy.

Not sure what difficulty we were playing on, but the difference between COD MP and Left4Dead is that in COD you're competing against other human players.  In Left4Dead you're merely playing against enemy AI.  Perhaps that is where it falls short for me.  You don't necessarily need a story in MP, but I like competition, and in COD you're competing directly against an opposing team.  Perhaps it's due to all of the sports I watch and play, but I like the competition aspect of versus MP and I just lost interest in fighting wave after wave of enemy AI.  There just didn't feel like much of a point.  At least in games like Halo 3 and Gears of War 2, yes you're still fighting against enemy AI, but there's a point to it all and a story unfolds. 

Left4Dead just isn't for me, and it seems rather simplistic and empty to be lauded as much as it has been. 

It's simplistic in the way that Halo was simplistic.  It gets to the root of what works and pulls it together extremely well.

The bigger issue for you, Pete, seems to be in the gameplay style.  If you're coming right off of COD and Halo and even GoW2, then you're going to be thinking in terms of run and gun, but that can get you in situations like the buddy Sensuous Lettuce and I were playing with.  This game is all about the teamwork, even in the Versus modes.  You've played it a couple of times, but didn't give it a chance to wow you on its own merits versus what you were expecting.  I think your defenses might be up about it now (since you're still dismissing it - instead of seeing that it's getting praise everywhere and wondering if you've missed something, you give the impression that millions of Elvis fans can, in fact, be wrong), so I don't know that you could be convinced, but there is a reason it's being lauded.
13227  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/1) on: December 01, 2008, 04:08:06 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on December 01, 2008, 03:31:34 PM

Quote from: Chaz on December 01, 2008, 03:16:01 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on December 01, 2008, 02:11:26 PM

Despite the name, My Fitness Coach is secretly the long-awaited sequel to Yourself! Fitness.  I've started every morning with 30-45 minutes of Y!F for 2.5 years now, so I'm really looking forward to the follow-up! thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
Huh, well that's interesting.  I used Yourself Fitness for a while.  A new version might be interesting.

Why is it so hard to find any information on My Fitness Coach?  All I could dig up are these screenshots on Gamespot, and from those the game looks almost identical to Yourself! Fitness.  Even the workout locations look exactly the same.  Is it just a straight port or did they new add features and exercises?  Can it use the Wii balance board?

Nothing on the box art or the Ubi website mention the balance board, and I would think that would be a big selling point, so I'm betting it doesn't use it.
13228  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/1) on: December 01, 2008, 02:40:27 PM
360:
Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon  I'm hoping to see a review first, but I like these games
Prince of Persia Pre-ordered and very anticipated

Wii:
Cate West: The Vanishing Files  I like these types of games, and this is supposed to be a good one, on the PC.  I picked up the Mortimer game on the Wii, though, and I'm very disappointed in the resolution, so I'll need to wait on reviews
Mushroom Men: The Spore Wars Waiting for mainstream reviews or impressions, but I'm interested


PC:
A Vampyre Story is supposed to be out tomorrow.  It's by a LucasArts guy and is supposed to hearken back to the glory days of SCUMM gaming!
13229  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tomb Raider: Underworld on: December 01, 2008, 02:34:09 PM
Combat in Uncharted went on a little long, for my tastes.  I always felt like it was a distraction, more than a fun part of the game.  The gunfights in Underworld also go on a little too long, but for a different reason.  They are meant to be a distraction, I think, but since it's just flipping and shooting, not "sophisticated" gunplay, it should be over very quickly.  It drags a bit.  There are cool moments where you can flip off an enemy's head and such, but there aren't a lot of them, and so it's basically down to trying not to flip off a ledge and keep pulling the trigger.

As for getting lost, the sense of wonder entering a new place is there every time you pull up or drop down only to discover some incredible set piece.  The levels are pretty damn big (too big, maybe?), so there's plenty of opportunity to explore already.  Not knowing where to go next is fine, if there are choices available (as in you could head off in any one of these chambers to unlock the big puzzle), not when it's confusing.  A lot of these levels are confusing, not about choosing.  Some of that comes from a symmetry that the designers like to put in, but there have been a lot of times already where I've felt at a total loss on where to go, as opposed to giddily overwhelmed with possibility.  I'm not sure how that can be seen as a positive.

The camera is terrible.  That seems to be universal.  And the jumps that feel right when you make them, but send her off on a non-intended diagonal are kind of inexcusable in a platformer, IMO.  Also, aren't the pots valuable historical treasures in there own rights?  I can't imagine Laura would be breaking them (there have been treasures in normal looking pots on occaision, BTW, Chaz.  That may help on your treasure-seeking playthrough).  I wish there was more variety in treasure types/storage.

There's some evidence that the game was rushed for the holiday, but it's pretty close to done, and most of those issues can be overlooked, I think, when you're faced with the coolness of the experience.  I'll just need to take a break between levels, to keep the frustration down.
13230  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: December 01, 2008, 02:14:01 PM

Quote from: Turtle on November 30, 2008, 05:25:30 PM

Some tips for normal Versus mode play:

Boomers are the core of the infected team.  All strategies involve them either leading an attack with bile, or other players distracting the Survivors so that the boomer can get into position to cover them in bile.  Not only does Bile blur the vision of all survivors it hits, it also makes them unable to see Warnings and player outlines indicating that someone has been snared or pounced.  The common infected (commons) that come in also server as ammo sinks and damage multipliers, doing more damage and if you had just pounced or snared alone.  When playing as the boomer, note that your vomit attack has a longer range than you'd think, it's an arc attack, so if you want to hit distant targets aim higher, you'll be surprised how far it reaches.

A lone hunter, or even multiple hunters are often ineffective as he'll do a bit of damage then get knocked off.  However, a hunter combined with a horde is nasty.  Pounce on a target just as a horde reaches him and not only will you do damage, but the common infected will swarm around him also doing damage (that adds to your total), the Commons shield you from gunfire as well.  Just a few extra commons helping you on a pounce is enough to drop someone pretty quickly.

In places where there's a ledge nearby and survivors packed together.  If you land a pounce on someone it'll knock survivors away from the point of impact.  Pounce on someone and knock others off a ledge and now you have two people needing rescue, not just one.

Smokers should also consider the same.  Any place where there's a ledge or a drop, try to snare someone from across it so they're either dragged to a different level or hang onto the ledge for rescue.  The 4th level of No Mercy has plenty of places to do this.  Oh, but note that it takes a half second for the snare to attach properly, and some more due to lag, this was deliberate to keep smoker snares from being too powerful.  Try to snare from rooftops, exposing the minimal amount of yourself to the ground as possible.  Look for buildings with rails/rims on the roof, it restricts your view but makes it near impossible to hit you.

When you're the tank and you're faced with survivors out in the open, there will usually be objects that you can punt around to hit survivors.  These are usually cars, boxes, or a forklift.  A tank is slowed down by gunfire and being on fire, four survivors shooting at you at the same time with level 2 weapons will drop a tank quickly.  So, if you try to go for the melee attack you usually can't connect in the open, and if you try for the rock throw the wind up animation for it takes forever and most survivors will flee for cover.  But punting objects around works wonders as it'll usually take only 1 hit to down a survivor.

Good tips.  I've never been a Boomer, though.  Maybe they parcel those out a little less frequently?
13231  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/1) on: December 01, 2008, 02:09:55 PM
VC:  Metal Slug 2 [Neo Geo]

Wiiware: Pit Crew Panic! and Space Invaders Get Even

SIGE is supposed to be pretty cool, where you play the role of the aliens.
13232  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: November 30, 2008, 03:54:30 PM

Quote from: spigot on November 30, 2008, 06:13:54 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 30, 2008, 05:59:04 AM

Had a hoot tonight playing with Bullwinkle and Spigot tonight.

Our 4th, who is a friend of mine from Gears of War, was playing Rambo rather than as a team, but the three of us operated pretty well.

I'm pretty miffed that the helo took off with me right outside of it and I was counted as dead, but that's the breaks.

Definitely fun!

Far more intense than I was expecting and far less humorous than I thought. 

Can't wait to try another level.

It was really fun. Glad to be able to play with you guys. Must do again.

It was a good time!  Thanks for setting it up, SL.

The humor comes from who you're playing with.  Personally, I found it hysterical that anytime someone wondered where your buddy was, we'd see his orange silhouette on a totally other floor getting the crap beat out of him.

As for the helicopter, I'm sorry to have been the only one to make it onto the helicopter, but not too sorry!  For next time, just keep in mind that you can keep firing from the helicopter.  At least you still got the survival achievement, SL.
13233  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: November 29, 2008, 11:26:36 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 29, 2008, 10:59:13 PM

Will someone ANYONE be online to play this with me tonight?
!

Make sure I'm on your Friends list (I can't remember).  I'm BullwinkleJ on 360.  I will try to get on between 11 and midnight tonight, but it all depends on when the wife gets tired.  Or if I can convince her to kill some zombies, but that seems very unlikely.
13234  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: November 29, 2008, 10:57:19 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on November 29, 2008, 06:53:37 PM

Quote from: Dreamshadow on November 28, 2008, 03:18:18 PM



Wow Pete...that's a pretty amazing reaction.  I've really enjoying the game, and I've only played the No Mercy campaign.  I'm really determined to beat that one before I move on to another. I've been playing just with friends online and it has been all kinds of tense, funny, and downright edge of your seat a times.  Between this game and Horde mode in GoW2, I've been a happy co-op gamer!

(I've been enjoying it so much, I have L4D on PC and on 360)

My biggest problem was I just didn't feel any motivation or attachment to what was going on in the game.  There just wasn't anything to draw me in.  No storyline, no interesting characters, as we fought our way through wave after wave of zombies, there just seemed to be no point, no motivation.  Nothing to make me want to see what happens next.  I really wanted to like the game, and I was excited to play co-op with Knightshade.  But as we played I just lost interest and got bored.  While the gameplay may be tense and exciting, that's all there seemed to be to the game.  Fighting through zombies to survive.  But why?  I couldn't find a reason, and because there was no attachment I just didn't find any reason to continue.  I was amazingly underwhelmed and terribly disappointed with how little there was to the game. 

I've played through many, many shooters.  And this one just had no personality, nothing interesting to set it apart from any other generic shooter.  I can get the same experience from a quick add-on to COD:[email protected] 


I think L4D was made as a blank slate, personality-wise, on pupose.  The characters are archetypes.  For me, the storyline/characterization has always come from the people I'm playing with, and it's always been there to at least some degree.  I actually thought it would work better with someone sitting next to you, but maybe the anonimty helps with the goofy roleplaying that seems to happen.  Regardless, Chaz is right in that the game is beautifully designed to encourage team play.  Really, it's such a part of the gameplay that you barely notice it.  Seemlessly brilliant.
13235  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Lord of the Rings: Conquest on: November 29, 2008, 04:59:49 PM

Quote from: EddieA on November 29, 2008, 06:55:55 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on November 29, 2008, 01:20:13 AM

The only thing I know about this game is from the vids on XBLM.  They aren't very clear.  What is this, exactly?

It's a Battlefield/Star Wars : Battlefront style big-battle pick-your-unit-and-fight style game set in the LoTR universe.

Ah, well, that sounds...hmm, let's see if I can find le mot juste...fucking awesome.
13236  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Did anyone pick up The Last Guy PSN game? on: November 29, 2008, 04:57:43 PM
There's this whole thread:  http://www.gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php/topic,28944.0.html  Only 7 posts, though.

I know a lot of people couldn't get over the fact that the zombies weren't zombies.  I just think of them as monsters with a bad translation job.

For myself, I got distracted by other games and didn't make it very far in, but I did enjoy it and expect to play it more during some slow periods.
13237  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Official] Rock Band 2 Impressions on: November 29, 2008, 04:52:15 PM
Hey, it's me again.  Guitar Hero World Tour got reviewed by Yahtzee on Zero Punctuation, and Harmonix got kind of bitch slapped in the process. 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/452-Guitar-Hero-World-Tour
13238  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Lord of the Rings: Conquest on: November 29, 2008, 01:20:13 AM
The only thing I know about this game is from the vids on XBLM.  They aren't very clear.  What is this, exactly?
13239  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Prince of Persia screenshot on: November 28, 2008, 04:18:17 PM
I was really interested in this game (one of the very few times I've pre-ordered, and the first ever from Best Buy to get the CE upgrade), but now I'm beyond excited.  Like hoping it'll live up to the first console PoP excited.
13240  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: November 28, 2008, 03:48:33 AM

Quote from: PeteRock on November 28, 2008, 03:28:07 AM

Played with Knightshade.  Consensus?  Over...Rated.  Over...Rated.  Graphics?  Sub-par.  Sound?  Sub-par.  Gameplay?  Sub-par.  Mediocre all around.  Not even worth a rent let alone purchasing outright.  Waste of time.    Not even worth playing for free let alone for purchase.



Zombies aren't fabulous.
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