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13041  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Puzzle Kingdoms, from Puzzle Quest creators on: August 07, 2008, 02:52:04 PM

Quote from: Misguided on August 07, 2008, 01:14:57 PM

There are some striking differences between this and PQ.
For instance, those dudes on the tabs (I-IV) appear to be units
of some sort (they have their own health indicator as well as what
looks to be an elemental affinity/mana indicator). Then there are
those symbols around the outside of the board (huh, the inside is 6*6).
I'm not so sure this is a match-3 variant.

Sounds like we should be hearing more about this soon.

And yet, what struck me was how damned similar it looked to Puzzle Quest.

That said, I have a feeling the real differences will come from the board you move around on.  Since Warlords was mentioned, I picture enemies you can see moving around as you move.
13042  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad on: August 07, 2008, 02:49:25 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 07, 2008, 01:04:08 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 06, 2008, 03:30:46 PM

I would only be interested if it were also a movie tie-in.

so you're in then?

Well, shut my mouth.

Why do I think Starshifter would have liked this?
13043  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLA] Braid on: August 06, 2008, 10:57:19 PM

Quote from: Misguided on August 06, 2008, 10:23:22 PM

*Arise Sir Loin of Beef!*

Braid is out. Braid is amazing. You go buy now. That is all.

Seriously, though, I implore folks with any kind of interest in puzzlers/platformers
to check out the demo for this game. I'm still early on (solved one world, working on another)
and it is unlike anything I've ever played (although in a minor way it does remind me of an old
favorite puzzler of mine called Stardust). It has a lovely hand-drawn look and rather soothing,
moody music to boot.

The game is tough to describe but the demo lets you play through the entirety of World 2.
No spoilers but I will say that it is possible to collect all the puzzle pieces in the demo.

Very important point.

This is an amazing, beautiful game.  Reminds me of the Orsinal games, but with more depth.  http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/  Similar beauty and lazy sunday feel.
13044  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLA] Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 Impressions on: August 06, 2008, 03:31:36 PM

Quote from: Chaz on August 06, 2008, 02:43:25 PM

You'd think a bigger screen would help, but really it doesn't.  With my 57" screen, I have to keep my eyes moving at all times, as I can't just take in the whole screen at once.  As a result, if I focus on where I'm going/shooting, I can completely miss a threat coming from behind.

Absolutely, the ability to take in the whole screen at once is a huge plus.  Of course, I can see how too small could be a problem.
13045  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad on: August 06, 2008, 03:30:46 PM
I would only be interested if it were also a movie tie-in.
13046  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Siren: Blood Curse on: August 06, 2008, 04:36:34 AM
I'm shocked no one is talking about this game!  It's fantastic.  I just finished chapter 3, and while the story gets off to a dijointed start, there's some creepy cool stuff going on.  The game is great at building tension, but the chapter format (with multiple missions in each chapter) really keeps things moving.  It's a good balance.  The game does seem like it'll be short, but it's at a discounted price, and I think it'll be worth it.
13047  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLA] Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 Impressions on: August 06, 2008, 12:26:55 AM

Quote from: PeteRock on August 06, 2008, 12:18:29 AM

Quote from: The Grue on August 06, 2008, 12:05:15 AM

Oh, since I have all you GW experts in here, there is something I always wanted to know about the game.  Gravity Wells....are you supposed to kill them or let them kill your enemies?  If you let them kill them, do you get geomes and points?  Is there any downside to letting them kill your enemies?



The key is balance.  Obviously once you activite a gravity well it begins to swell and continues to do so until it explodes into a group of smaller, angrier, more motivated enemies hell-bent on handing you your ass.  However, if you continue to fire a few shots into the gravity well every so often you can keep it at a managable size avoiding the aforementioned explosion.  But, as it absorbs enemies it grows at a faster rate, and the larger it gets the faster it absorbs enemies, and so the more maintenance you have to provide (shooting into the gravity well enough to shrink it back to a safer size).  The more you are able to maintain a gravity well, the more enemies it can absorb, and once you finally destroy the well you earn a ridiculously high score for the work it has done for you.  However, if it explodes into the herd of pissed off blue circles on its own then you lose that score you worked so hard to obtain. 

In short, use bullets to keep the well at a managable size so that it continues to absorb enemies.  The more enemies it absorbs, the higher the value of destroying the well will become.  Once safety becomes a concern then you can blow up the gravity well and marvel at the score it was able to amass on your behalf.  But if it explodes on its own you lose any chance of a score bonus.  The key is getting it to suck up as many enemies as possible until you are ready to blow it up. 

I've always wanted to ask this question myself.  Thank you, Grue!  And thanks, Pete, for answering so clearly.
13048  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3]Uncharted:Drakes Fortune on: August 05, 2008, 03:53:47 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on August 05, 2008, 02:33:42 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 05, 2008, 02:28:07 PM

I understand the trophies aren't retro-active (though it seems like they should be, since the award system is already in the game, but what do I know), but do you have to start a whole game over to get any trophies?  The ones from wherever you are going forward aren't available?

Evidently the reason you have to redo them is to avoid cheating- otherwise you could just load up someone's existing save game and automatically get all of the achievements they received. 

I guess that makes some sense.  Lame, though.

Any word on restarting versus collecting trophies from where you are?
13049  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3]Uncharted:Drakes Fortune on: August 05, 2008, 02:28:07 PM
I understand the trophies aren't retro-active (though it seems like they should be, since the award system is already in the game, but what do I know), but do you have to start a whole game over to get any trophies?  The ones from wherever you are going forward aren't available?
13050  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/4) on: August 05, 2008, 01:11:30 AM
Anyone try that wiiware wild west shooing game yet?
13051  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLA] Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 Impressions on: August 02, 2008, 04:50:14 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on August 02, 2008, 06:27:58 AM

Pacifism:  71,438,425

Overall Rank:  1,319

And that is after five hours of pool and about 20 Sam Adams Light.  I think I'm going to bed now. 

What happened to first place?  Loser.
13052  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLA] Ticket to Ride Discussion on: August 02, 2008, 12:41:22 AM
Just a heads up the Europe pack is online, according to Major Nelson.  600 points.
13053  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PixelJunk Eden looks awesome. Any demo impressions? on: August 01, 2008, 04:54:37 PM

Quote from: depward on August 01, 2008, 03:44:54 PM

Spent a good 1.5 hours last night tinkering around with this puppy - gathered all the spectre in Garden 1 and unlocked the "open all seeds" trophy for it as well.

What an awesome gem of a game this is.  Simplicity matched with stellar sound & images.  I'm sure difficulty ramps up (like their previous Pixeljunk titles, Racers & Monsters, I'm assuming it'll get hardcore hard), it's just an easy will to chill out for an evening.

Turn the volume up, the light down, and play some Eden   icon_cool

I hope it doesn't get hardcore hard, as that'll spoil the vibe of it, to me. 
13054  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Soul Calibur IV Release Thread on: August 01, 2008, 02:48:35 PM
I will say that, though I've been compelled to play for a couple of hours, I'm not nearly as engrossed as I was by SC2.  It feels like a chore more than fun (not that it's not fun, it's just more like 60/40 now). 

Honestly, the character creation mode is overwhelming.  That'll probably be good for some folks, but its not a clear as it should be, and the number of things to unlock is going to turn the fighting into a grind before you can get any use out of it.

The lack of a Quest mode is extremely irritating.  And the amount of text at the start of story mode is laborious.

I tried to play a match online for about twenty minutes and was able to get into exactly one.  The guy quit the second before I was going to kick his ass with Schadenfreud or whatever her name is.

It sounds like I hate the game, I know, but I don't (well, maybe I hate the m-fing Apprentice).  However, I can see I'm not going to be playing this for months to come.
13055  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Pixel Junk Racers- that bad? on: August 01, 2008, 05:51:16 AM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on August 01, 2008, 05:02:14 AM

Certainly not a BAD game, but not up to snuff with Monsters and (ESPECIALLY) Eden.  Check out the demo Tongue

I didn't see a demo.  Found it now, though.  Thanks.
13056  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Pixel Junk Racers- that bad? on: August 01, 2008, 04:58:11 AM
Spent some enjoyable time in Eden recently.  And of course I like Monsters.  I'm wondering if PJ Racers is really as bad as reviews make it out to be.
13057  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PixelJunk Eden looks awesome. Any demo impressions? on: July 31, 2008, 07:48:08 PM

Quote from: Razgon on July 31, 2008, 06:12:41 PM

Okay, bought the game, and tried it..eh....

I have no clue whats going on! no manual, no tutorial, no nothing... Am I supposed to swing and then somehow use another rope to go higher? I cant seem to make a rope, unless I'm on ground/plants... and whats that thing I have to find on the first level? and how is it hidden? And how do I Unhide it?

I'm flabbergasted!!

The game is supposed to be out, right?  I don't see it on PSN.
13058  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Playing Metal Gear Solid 1 - 3 before MGS 4 - who is with me?! on: July 30, 2008, 03:24:41 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on July 30, 2008, 01:14:20 PM

I don't know how well MGS 2&3 play on software BC, but MGS1 should be perfect. 

2 & 3 play great.  I finished 1 on the Wii (I had the PC version kicking around somewhere, too), finished 2 and am half way through 3.  There have been no problems whatsoever.
13059  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: WTF? Activision Drops Ghostbusters, Brutal Legend, Riddick and Others for... on: July 30, 2008, 03:21:05 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 30, 2008, 03:01:02 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 30, 2008, 05:55:19 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 30, 2008, 03:27:12 AM

Quote from: Big Jake on July 30, 2008, 02:30:26 AM

Quote from: The Grue on July 29, 2008, 10:54:26 PM

Quote from: Big Jake on July 29, 2008, 10:52:34 PM

First of all, I still don't get the love for the Ghostbusters game.  A licensed movie property (average failure rate in gaming: >85%)...from a movie from 2 decades ago?  And this is supposed to be good, why?  If Harold Ramis wants to tread on past glory, at least go REALLY out of left field and do something from SCTV years.  Hell, do a Guy Caballero game.


Yes, it's true....this man has no dick.

Funny...but again, 20 years old.  Remember how 'funny' the Coneheads movie in the 90's was?

well, there's the problem-  you thought Coneheads was funny  Tongue

I think his point was that the Coneheads movie came out 20 years after the original sketch, and it wasn't funny.

I like my interpretation better  Tongue   either way, even the original Coneheads skits don't hold up but the original Ghostbusters does.

I agree with you there.  We're also talking about a one-joke sketch being turned into a movie versus Ghostbusters which is ripe for all kinds of ideas (as long as one of them isn't pink happy ooze).
13060  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: WTF? Activision Drops Ghostbusters, Brutal Legend, Riddick and Others for... on: July 30, 2008, 05:55:19 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 30, 2008, 03:27:12 AM

Quote from: Big Jake on July 30, 2008, 02:30:26 AM

Quote from: The Grue on July 29, 2008, 10:54:26 PM

Quote from: Big Jake on July 29, 2008, 10:52:34 PM

First of all, I still don't get the love for the Ghostbusters game.  A licensed movie property (average failure rate in gaming: >85%)...from a movie from 2 decades ago?  And this is supposed to be good, why?  If Harold Ramis wants to tread on past glory, at least go REALLY out of left field and do something from SCTV years.  Hell, do a Guy Caballero game.


Yes, it's true....this man has no dick.

Funny...but again, 20 years old.  Remember how 'funny' the Coneheads movie in the 90's was?

well, there's the problem-  you thought Coneheads was funny  Tongue

I think his point was that the Coneheads movie came out 20 years after the original sketch, and it wasn't funny.
13061  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Summer 08 PSN game sale! on: July 28, 2008, 02:20:26 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on July 27, 2008, 09:19:25 PM

I got Pain at this price...it's totally worth the 5 bucks.

I just reread my Pain comment and realized that it may have sounded like I wasn't liking the game.  I think it's a lot of fun, and if there were some more levels, it would be worth $10 or maybe even more, but with just the one city block, $5 is a reasonable price.

Sounds like Poker may be worth the $5, too, even if it is bare bones.  I don't have the Eye yet, and I have a hunch I wouldn't use it for Poker even if I did, but I like that it's there.

Anyone have any fun with Bowling?
13062  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Summer 08 PSN game sale! on: July 27, 2008, 09:03:19 PM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on July 25, 2008, 03:46:50 AM

One week only!  The following titles (normally $9.99) are only $4.99:

PAIN
PixelJunk Monsters
High Velocity Bowling
High Stakes on the Vegas Strip: Poker Edition
Rocketmen: Axis of Evil

PAIN is a fun diversion for $5 (and online play, trophy support & a crazy new stage is coming soon), PixelJunk Monsters is pretty much the pinnacle of tower defense games, High Velocity Bowling is fun and High Stakes is sort of a bare-bones Poker experience, but does utilize an audio/video feed using the Eyetoy Camera.

And, as I'm sure 360 owners can attest to, feel free to skip Rocketman biggrin

While you're downloading one (or two, PAIN and PixelJunk Monsters is a fantastic combo) of the games above, queue up the PixelJunk Eden demo.  It's outstanding!

Rocketman is pretty awful.

I already picked up Pain, which is worth about $5 (hopefully they won't charge much for that second map-the game is fun, there's just not enough content).  PJM is worth $20, easily, so $5 is beyond a steal.

I'm curious to hear more opinions on High Velocity Bowling and the poker game.  I was planning to plunge on Bowling for $5, but I wasn't so sure about poker. 
13063  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: (360) Puzzle Quest Expansion 7/23? on: July 24, 2008, 11:45:02 PM

Quote from: Farscry on July 24, 2008, 02:48:58 PM

Fortunately I play this exclusively on the 360 anyway, so I'll be picking up this DLC. I've recently been getting near the end of the regular campaign, so the new content will extend the quest nicely for me. icon_biggrin

How long did it take to get near the end?

13064  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: rock band 2 announced! on: July 19, 2008, 01:08:43 PM
The no fail mode will be a godsend when playing with my 5 year old.  I hope it doesn't take forever to unlock.  It may be the feature my wife and I are most looking forward to.
13065  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My last reason to keep the Wii: destroyed and pooped on on: July 19, 2008, 03:22:48 AM

Quote from: msduncan on July 19, 2008, 01:29:29 AM

Quote from: semiconscious on July 18, 2008, 06:08:27 PM

Quote from: Canuck on July 18, 2008, 04:31:47 PM

What do you want, a different way to harvest apples?

smile

classic...

Canuck continues his self-amusing humor under the delusion that other people are impressed with him.

Is it a delusion when someone like semiconscious is impressed with him?
13066  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 08 Coverage Begins! on: July 19, 2008, 01:23:08 AM
Well, it turns out MS is held back more than just the Bungie announcement.  Alan Wake will be coming to the Tokyo Game Show.  http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/18/alan-wake-to-show-its-face-at-tokyo-game-show/

This is what I was saying, people.  Sony and Nintendo all but announced it.  Microsoft's last minute pull of the Bungie news showed they got the message.  E3 is dead.

13067  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS2] Primal on: July 18, 2008, 07:00:04 PM

Quote from: mytocles on July 18, 2008, 04:41:57 PM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on July 15, 2008, 01:36:40 AM

I thought it was fabulous when I first played it and reviewed it for the site (back when we were Console Gold). I loved it and was absolutely blindsided by it, which I love. It's a game that came out of nowhere for me, and just knocked me out. Wonderful times.

Same here.  I don't have a PS3, so dunno how it translates to that, but I loved this game on the PS2.  Seemed to me, at the time anyway, to be very innovative and unique.  It is one of my favorite games for the console.

And, yeah, people talk about it a lot like BG & E and other sleepers.  Since you can buy it for the price of a Big Mac, it might be a good one to try.  No guarantees - it could be a love-it-or-hate-it game, like Ico, but it won't cost you much to see whether you love it or not.

 icon_razz

I didn't know you were a reviewer for Console Gold, too.
13068  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: rock band 2 announced! on: July 18, 2008, 04:11:49 PM

Quote from: Purge on July 18, 2008, 02:13:04 PM

... including to Rockband players.

Well, true, but I'm mostly talking about the bundle.  I'm sure the game will sell okay, maybe even well, but if there wasn't cross usage, it would be less (I know I wouldn't be buying it).  But I think they're hoping to sell at least some of the bundles.
13069  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My last reason to keep the Wii: destroyed and pooped on on: July 18, 2008, 04:07:10 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on July 18, 2008, 04:03:50 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 18, 2008, 03:59:58 AM

Just because they didn't announce anything at E3 doesn't necessarily mean they don't have anything in store.  On the other hand, that list they released feels a little final.

True, but I find it hard to imagine that they'll have something significant to release by Christmas and not already have announced it. 

Quote from: The Grue on July 18, 2008, 03:37:11 PM

I keep hoping that they aren't showing something fantastic, but I don't hold out hope for it.

This E3 felt like the Japanese companies were sending a message that this hampered E3 was dead.  Granted, there's not a big time frame left for announcing stuff for Christmas, and I don't know what other events might be coming up, if any (maybe they're trying to highjack Comicon), but part of the reason this seems like the time to make announcements is because that's the way it's been.

Don't get me wrong.  I suspect that there's not a lot more coming, but that's the hope I'm holding out.
13070  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My girlfriend's a dirty pirate! on: July 18, 2008, 04:02:08 PM
Someone said that 80% of Americans are playing pirated games on the DS, which is a figure that cannot be correct, but that number would grow if this convenience were something so easy to come by here.  I would happily do that, too, BUT only for the games I already own.  That way I can cut down on the little baggies I take with the DS, and I might even play games that I'd forgotten about.
13071  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My last reason to keep the Wii: destroyed and pooped on on: July 18, 2008, 03:59:58 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on July 18, 2008, 03:09:12 AM

Quote from: JCC on July 18, 2008, 01:52:51 AM

My wife still says she can't wait for the new AC game. But I agree, all they did was add a city for shopping? That's really lame. It's ok for your portable version to ape the first game, but it looks like they put no effort into this at all. I think they really shot their first party wad in the first 18 months of the Wii's life, and now they were desperate to get something out for the holidays.

I'm relatively shocked that Nintendo didn't have a bigger surprised title for this holiday season like the rumored Kid Icarus.  Frankly, there really wasn't any need to release SSMB, Mario Kart, and Wii Fit in such close proximity, especially with them selling every piece of hardware they produce anyway.  When they did release them like that, I assumed they had something really big in the wings for a holiday release.  Otherwise they could easily have held back Mario Kart for six months and no one would have batted an eye.

Just because they didn't announce anything at E3 doesn't necessarily mean they don't have anything in store.  On the other hand, that list they released feels a little final.
13072  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 08 Coverage Begins! on: July 17, 2008, 11:11:36 PM
I just wish this Wiimotion plus thing were coming out now, or at least at the holidays.  Assuming it works with all games (and it would be ridiculous for it not to, but I suppose it's possible), it's going to be hard to keep playing knowing finer control is possible.
13073  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 08 Coverage Begins! on: July 17, 2008, 08:39:04 PM

Quote from: TC Weidner on July 17, 2008, 06:08:24 PM

Hell the difference between vhs and dvd was less then the difference between dvd and blueray.  Vhs and dvd basically had same picture quality, you paid and switched content due to some "extras".  The difference between dvd and even "upgraded dvd" picture quality and blue ray 1080 is NIGHT and DAY plus you get even more content now with blueray as if it mattered.

Now I think you're just insane.

Seriously, you think VHS was comparable to DVD?  I am utterly flabbergasted by that statement.

I have a 720p HD set.  I hope to get a 1080p set in the future, but for now I can only compare what I've seen on other sets and in stores.  Some titles are nauseatingly clear, yes (seriously, for some people it can be a turn off), but many of them are not.  But here's the point, 1080p HDTVs are still a niche market.  Growing, yes, but not mainstream.  DVDs worked with every TV and made a significant difference in quality, ease of use, durability, bonus content, etc.  Blu Ray on a standard TV is just not that impressive.  By the time most Americans have HDTV sets, we will be heavily into high def digital distribution.
13074  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: rock band 2 announced! on: July 17, 2008, 08:28:14 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on July 17, 2008, 07:59:15 PM

Quote from: jersoc on July 17, 2008, 06:57:43 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on July 17, 2008, 05:22:09 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 17, 2008, 04:11:13 PM

Looks like this was a necessary move on Activision's part to sell any copies of GH:WT at all.

Are you serious?  Look, we all love RB here but let's be honest here- GH3 sold a SHIT-TON of copies, regardless of the vitriol that poured forth from this and many other gaming boards.  It will sell like crazy.




no he's right. i've been seeing tons of people posting they are going to get the stand alone GH4 because of this change. They didn't want to buy any extra instruments. I don't think GH4 is the definitive band game. They are fighting an uphill battle and they need every edge they can. You are comparing apples to oranges here. A one instrument game is vastly different than a 4 one. Activision has also shown to drop the ball on the DLC front as well. This makes these games straight up. You can include a billion features but if i'm playing the same 60 songs. well you're game goes to the shelf very, very fast. HMX can keep it fresh, they've proven it.

So yes. activision needs whatever edge they can to sell more copies, even if it's 1.

Nonsense.  You overestimate the bubble we as the more 'hardcore' gamers live in.  Care for a friendly wager on the outcome?  I'll take anybody on.

You may be right on the bubble aspect, but I think the same casual market that buys GH over RB won't be making that $150 plunge.  The people who buy those high ticket items (and this is the reason I brought up Steel Battalion - I get that they're two very different games) are the more hardcore of gamers (like those of us in the bubble).  I don't think GH:WT will have nearly as huge an impact as the original games did.  I will be interested to see how many copies of the non-bundle game sell, but that full kit is going into an uphill battle, IMO.

Of course, if Activision can get the whole experience out for $80 or even just sub $100, they may have a shot.

EDIT TO ADD:

Also, I think the GH crowd will be intimidated as hell by all of those cymbals.
13075  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 08 Coverage Begins! on: July 17, 2008, 05:58:23 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on July 17, 2008, 04:42:23 PM

Quote from: TC Weidner on July 17, 2008, 04:14:48 PM

Quote
Exactly.  Blu Ray hasn't really made a dent in the overall movie renting/buying marketplace.  And there's an excellent chance that the next format of choice will be downloadable, skipping right over physical high def movies, well before the next decade arrives
  you guys crack me up.  Go watch a blue ray movie and then say that.  Come on your being silly. I have high def on demand movies and they are CRAP compared to blue ray.  Sorry, its just the truth.

even my wife who like most wives dont really care about pixels and so forth, upon watching our first blue ray a few months actually uttered' "wholly crap" while referring to clarity and almost 3d like image while watching spiderman3 on a big screen in 1080.

In all honesty, I don't think anyone is suggesting that Blu Ray films don't look impressive.  The point is that Blu Ray is far from replacing the existing DVD market.  I am a perfect example of the general unwillingness to abandon existing technology for a "new hotness" that hasn't established a cost-effective position as of yet.  I have two upscaling 400-disc dvd changers loaded with dvds, and while Blu Ray may be an impressive video format, it is more expensive, and I don't believe the upgrade in quality justifies the asking price or complete replacement of an existing library.  


Yeah, TC, I think you're missing the point.  I wasn't talking about quality, I was talking about market share.  Blu Ray won the format war against HD DVD, but DVD is still kicking its ass and may well continue to do so until digital distribution catches up to Blu Ray, quality-wise.  Laser Disc was leaps and bounds better than VHS in terms of quality, but that format died quickly and wound up being just for the elite (perhaps for the simple reason that no one wanted to turn a disc over mid-movie).  Blu Ray could very well go the same way.
13076  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: rock band 2 announced! on: July 17, 2008, 05:52:21 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on July 17, 2008, 05:25:58 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on July 17, 2008, 05:22:09 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 17, 2008, 04:11:13 PM

Looks like this was a necessary move on Activision's part to sell any copies of GH:WT at all.

Are you serious?  Look, we all love RB here but let's be honest here- GH3 sold a SHIT-TON of copies, regardless of the vitriol that poured forth from this and many other gaming boards.  It will sell like crazy.

I agree.

I expect a GH4 bundle with a drum kit will sell like hotcakes to all of the GH3 owners who already have the guitars.

Yeah, but they're going from a one instrument game to a complete band system in a rough economy.  And word of mouth on Rock Band is incredible.  Basically, GH has abandonded what they're known for in favor of something someone else is doing.  Asking someone to shell out big bucks again for a lot of equipment that would take up even more space in the living room just wouldn't cut it.  I don't think it will sell like crazy.  I think it'll sell slowly.  If it's good (better than RB and RB2), then it may hope to have the slow but steady growth RB seems to have.   Let's face it, these games are pricing themselves out.

Think about Steel Battalion.  $200 for a cool looking cockpit simulator.  Didn't sell well at all.  Looked cool as hell.  People wanted it, but no one bought it.  Part of the reason is that it worked with 2 games total in its lifetime.  If there had been a bunch of games from different companies that used the controller, it would have sold more.  Maybe not like hotcakes, but it would have gained a slow momentum.

Honestly, there may be room for a bunch of games with, essentially, $20 guitars, but games with massive equipment that cost $150+, not so much.
13077  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: rock band 2 announced! on: July 17, 2008, 04:11:13 PM
Seems we're all in the same boat (except that I don't really care about Metallica, but I see why that would be a big seller).  Looks like this was a necessary move on Activision's part to sell any copies of GH:WT at all.

Hopefully, they've studied what worked for RB and didn't for GH and made the right changes, but I have a feeling they will have bitten off more than they can chew.
13078  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 08 Coverage Begins! on: July 17, 2008, 04:09:04 PM

Quote from: Purge on July 17, 2008, 04:03:17 PM

Quote from: TC Weidner on July 17, 2008, 03:59:55 PM

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Unfortunately as good of a Blu-Ray player as it is, Sony needs to sell games to make money on the machine.  People buying it just as a movie player aren't doing them many favors.
I dont work or own Sony so what do I care about them, I care about me, and for the price, Ps3 is by far the best blue ray player in the market. 
 As for the market, I find it hilarious that people are worked up about one title, when Sony just won a format war with hundreds of billions of dollars over the next decade.
  So you are not gonna buy the PS3 for FF13, so your arent going to watch high def movies for the next decade?  You're gonna go pay 400 bucks for a blueray only player which is worse than PS3?

comeon, sony won where it counted for them, and i I can get a great next gen movie player, and a decent console for 400 bucks, all the better.



TC, while a part of me is glad for you that you feel you got your money's worth, I'm not entirely convinced that BD is going to be replacing DVD. Even before HD-DVD/BD wars, there was debate as to whether the next optical media format was going to get market foothold.

MS has definitely thrown their lot in with digital distribution instead of formats, and to be honest I prefer watching HD movies from TV then buying them for what I consider to be insane prices.

Exactly.  Blu Ray hasn't really made a dent in the overall movie renting/buying marketplace.  And there's an excellent chance that the next format of choice will be downloadable, skipping right over physical high def movies, well before the next decade arrives.
13079  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: (360 and PS3) No Love for the Release Version of Civ: Revolution? on: July 17, 2008, 02:40:45 PM

Quote from: Torfish on July 17, 2008, 02:14:57 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 13, 2008, 02:28:07 PM

I don't think I've ever finished a game of Civ in my whole life.  This may be just what the doc ordered, but I have a feeling I'll get it and play it once.

Wow, this thread has just about sold me on getting this game.  Bullwinkle's comment is exactly how I feel about CIV games.  I have yet to buy the console version because of that fact.  I just don't like long civ games anymore because I don't have the time dedicated for 2+hour sessions.  I am about to pull the trigger.  Thanks for the impressions.

Please let me know how it goes for you.  I would have bought it this week, but my Best Buy has turned into the worst store as far as getting games in.  I had a great set of coupons, too.
13080  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: rock band 2 announced! on: July 17, 2008, 02:39:22 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 17, 2008, 12:04:30 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on July 16, 2008, 10:03:37 PM

Quote from: rickfc on July 16, 2008, 09:21:00 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on July 16, 2008, 08:34:16 PM

I'm pretty sure it's been explicitly confirmed that the Ion kit will work with GH:WT

Really?  I don't recall seeing that anywhere...Link(s)?

I've been reading too many RB and GH threads to keep track.  I'm pretty sure I saw it on one of the scorehero forums.

I feel like I heard that, too, but maybe it was in the context of someone hoping that would be the case.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53736

Not specifically about the Ion, but it does say the RB instruments will work with GH:WT.
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