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13041  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Puzzle Arcade XBLA on: December 27, 2008, 05:33:59 PM
For Christmas MS gave us Puzzle Arcade, where you put together virtual jigsaw puzzles.  I wasn't even going to try the demo, as I figured it would be lame.  I tried it anyway, though, and I have to say, if you're going to do a virtual jigsaw game, this would be the way to do it.  The graphics are very nice.  The music/sounds are appropriate, but what really astounded me were the number of play modes and options.  You've got standard, multiplayer, dynamic puzzles (where the pictures change as you put the puzzle together), fractal puzzles (described as large, multilevel puzzles), XBL Vision puzzles (ie create your own), challenge puzzles (which seem to throw twists in like pieces that rotate as you build or a bomb that will blow up your puzzle if you don't add a piece every 15 seconds or the classic missing piece) and weekly puzzles.  On top of that, the modes give you set-up choices.  You choose how you want your pieces set up (scattered on the table or in racks at the side - the first requires you to click the piece in place, the second-called Turbo mode-drops it in automatically).  You also set your experience level, how many pieces you want (16 - 1330), and what shape you want your pieces to be in (4 different styles, including just a square).  Frankly, the whole thing is a little staggering.  It's clear that a lot of care went into putting this game together, and it all goes back to what I said earlier: "...if you're going to do a virtual jigsaw game, this would be the way to do it."  The question is, do you really want a virtual jigsaw game?  And is it worth 800 points for you?  I'm a little on the fence, as far as that last part goes, but I'm definitely interested.
13042  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] littlebigplanet impressions (& mgs level pack info!)... on: December 27, 2008, 05:16:16 PM

Quote from: Chaz on December 27, 2008, 03:25:08 PM

Amazon has had it for $40 several times in the past few weeks.  Also, the co-op parts are entirely optional.

Optional if you don't mind not collecting everything.  And there are some that require 4 players!  That bummed me out.

On an unrelated note, has anyone tried my level?
13043  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: World of Goo - Wii GOTY, IGN... on: December 26, 2008, 03:52:09 PM

Quote from: Tebunker on December 26, 2008, 12:44:09 AM

Quote from: Godzilla Blitz on December 25, 2008, 06:15:37 PM

I'd agree that while I liked WoG a lot, I don't think it had enough meat on it for a Game of the Year.

Happy to see that they got the award, though. Very stylish game.
Why does a game have to have enough "meat" to be Game of the Year. Some of the greatest games I've played, whether video game, card game or board game have sometimes taken minutes to play/complete. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I would like to know why you feel you need more stuff/length/meat etc.

Agree wholeheartedly.  Especially after Portal last year.  That was my GOTY last year, and it took 4 - 6 hours.
13044  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 25, 2008, 03:44:33 AM

Quote from: jblank on December 25, 2008, 01:22:03 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 23, 2008, 07:05:03 PM

Quote from: jblank on December 23, 2008, 06:44:40 PM

Quote from: JCC on December 23, 2008, 06:25:32 PM

Quote from: msteelers on December 23, 2008, 06:05:04 PM

That's fine, but unless there is a new stat that I haven't seen, most Americans don't even own an HDTV. Why spend the money to buy a new player and movies when there is no visual difference between the two?

I believe a recent article I skimmed said that now 1 in 4 homes owns an HDTV. So yes, the majority of Americans do not own HDTVs.

Sounds about right. I never once said that anyone without an HDTV should go 100% Blu-Ray. If someone with 0 HDTV's in their house asked if they should buy a Blu-Ray player, my answer would be a resounding "no".

Are you saying that everyone with an HDTV should buy a Blu-Ray player?

How you got that from the post you quoted is beyond me. I'm speechless.

You're clearly not speechless, and it's the culmination of the posts that led me to that.
13045  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Guitar Hero World Tour - First Review Out - 7.9 on: December 25, 2008, 12:38:38 AM

Quote from: Tals on December 25, 2008, 12:21:14 AM

We got world tour for Christmas for the wii.

The sole reason I didn't even consider rockband for the qui was the lwck of wireless support. I don't care how they do it but wires were not an option
Tals

Hww doe you lkke wreting from yyr cel phwne?>   slywink
13046  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 23, 2008, 07:05:03 PM

Quote from: jblank on December 23, 2008, 06:44:40 PM

Quote from: JCC on December 23, 2008, 06:25:32 PM

Quote from: msteelers on December 23, 2008, 06:05:04 PM

That's fine, but unless there is a new stat that I haven't seen, most Americans don't even own an HDTV. Why spend the money to buy a new player and movies when there is no visual difference between the two?

I believe a recent article I skimmed said that now 1 in 4 homes owns an HDTV. So yes, the majority of Americans do not own HDTVs.

Sounds about right. I never once said that anyone without an HDTV should go 100% Blu-Ray. If someone with 0 HDTV's in their house asked if they should buy a Blu-Ray player, my answer would be a resounding "no".

Are you saying that everyone with an HDTV should buy a Blu-Ray player?
13047  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 23, 2008, 04:36:13 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 23, 2008, 04:06:05 PM

Quote from: jblank on December 23, 2008, 03:54:56 PM

175 or so BRD's later, I am glad I made the jump,


slightly OT, but isn't it nice how much less space the BRD packaging takes up?  I wish regular DVD's had switched over to the smaller packaginging- comparing how much space my blu rays take up to my DVD's on the shelf under them I figure you can fit 1.5 BRD cases into the space that 1 DVD case takes up.  sure, it seems like a small number but it adds up and saves space quickly.

The size of the cases are great, the material is not.  In a stack, they slide all over the place.  I've heard they're fixing that, though.
13048  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Community Games XBLM on: December 23, 2008, 06:49:02 AM
I'm still easing my toe into the community games, but I did buy my first one.

Carneyvale Showtime is very well polished and a lot of addictive fun.  You send a ragdoll clown around a balloon-filled field, grabbing him with hooks that spin, then using the momentum to propel him further upfield.  You get stars for getting all the balloons, doing it in a certain time, not dying, finding the secret star and popping all the balloons, which adds to the replay value.  That said, it looks to be incredibly short - 9 levels, I think.  Still, it's only 400 points.
13049  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 23, 2008, 04:22:29 AM
I will say this 3D functionality they've been talking up lately could help.  It could also be a gimmick.
13050  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 23, 2008, 04:14:36 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on December 23, 2008, 03:04:29 AM

Quote from: jblank on December 23, 2008, 02:29:21 AM

I get the feeling many of you actually WANT it to fail. Why that is, I don't know. I have always been of the opinion that more HD is better, but maybe thats because home theater is my #2 hobby behind gaming.

This.

The Sony/BD hate is just as obvious in this thread as the Nintendo hate is in the monthly NPD threads and the Microsoft hate is in the RROD threads.

I think you guys are being defensive.  Maybe because you're hearing things you don't want to hear.  I don't hate Blu-Ray at all.  I don't see the visual difference on my 720p set- and I don't think banging your head on a desk will make people see something they don't see (though I think the sound quality can be remarkable), but the PS3 is my main movie player.  However, I don't see how you can ignore digital distribution as writing on the wall.
13051  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 22, 2008, 09:54:13 PM

Quote from: jblank on December 22, 2008, 04:28:49 PM

Quote from: Jumangi on December 20, 2008, 01:35:17 AM

Quote from: jblank on December 19, 2008, 06:55:06 PM


Blu-Ray is doing fine. The Dark Knight is over 2 million sold and regardless of whether your TV is 720p. 1080i, or 1080p, the differences between Blu-Ray and DVD are easily apparent.

Depends on your point of view. If you look at sales this year the expected bump many proclaimed hasn't really happened. Blu-Ray sales are increasing but at a pretty slow rate. It will be years before it approaches DVD sales, even as they start to decline some.

I don't have current statistics (they may not even be out yet), but as of Spring 2008, Blu-Ray sales were more at this point in its life, than DVD was at the same time in its life. It's doing better than you think. smile

But, and this is a huge, Sir-Mix-A-Lot but, DVD didn't have another format looming perceptibly on the the horizon.  There has already been a consumer mind-shift to downloadable media.  HD downloads are already happening, and it won't be too long before they are manageable.
13052  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/22) on: December 22, 2008, 03:08:48 PM

Quote from: Destructor on December 22, 2008, 01:21:53 PM

Twas the night before Christmas, and all throughout game land, not a videogame was releasing, not even...

...not even ones that use a mouse!

VC: Phantasy Star IV [Sega Mega Drive]

Wiiware: Tiki Towers and Fun! Fun! Minigolf
13053  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 21, 2008, 09:52:24 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 21, 2008, 08:51:12 PM

Blu Ray compared against Standard DVD using the Die Hard movies.

Incredible...when I'm sitting inches away looking at blown up images.
13054  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 21, 2008, 07:49:17 PM

Quote from: naednek on December 20, 2008, 07:59:07 PM

Quote from: Destructor on December 20, 2008, 07:33:42 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on December 20, 2008, 04:13:15 PM

Quote from: naednek on December 20, 2008, 04:10:59 PM

man, i'm could be getting this for xmas, and if not i've been seriously thinking of buying one if I don't.  Am I going to regret it?  I mainly want it as a blu-ray player.
No you won't regret it. It's the best bluray player you can buy and there's some good games for it.

Unfortunately, because you waited, you're getting the 'gimped' non-PS2 playing edition (or semi-PS2 playing edition based on which model). In return, you got a bigger HD! Yay?

That said - it is a fantastic Blu-ray player. And yes, there are some great games for it. So, if you think of it as a Blu-ray player that can play some games if you want, you're getting a great gift.

That doesn't matter to me since I don't have a PS2 or their games.

I don't get that.  It seems like even more of a reason to want the BC version.
13055  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Community Games XBLM on: December 21, 2008, 07:45:01 PM

Quote from: Barkers Crest on December 21, 2008, 07:43:30 AM

Just to let you know the update has gone live.  You can now download other peoples courses to your hard drive and play them whenever you want.  I also added a bonus course so now the game comes with 3 courses.  You can see a list of the updates on www.barkerscrest.com.

- Matt

I saw that this was updated.  I will give it a try.  I think you've got a good program here.
13056  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 21, 2008, 01:39:07 AM

Quote from: depward on December 21, 2008, 01:31:11 AM

Quote from: Fellow on December 20, 2008, 07:49:42 PM

To me right now the Playstation 3 is a backwards compatible PS2, a top of the line Blu-ray player, and of course a PS game console for some exclusive/multi-platform titles. If I dropped the interest for Blu-rays, and eliminated the PS2 backwards compatibility, then yeah, I'd be left with a pretty hohumm machine. But with all of that together, I really have no regrets.

Of course, Fellow is spot on.  If you're looking for a gaming machine only?  A PS3 probably won't cut it.  If you're looking for a blu-ray player that plays PS2 / PSX games with media capabilities as well as having some great exclusives?  The older, obsolete version proves to be an excellent machine.

FTFY.
13057  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] littlebigplanet impressions (& mgs level pack info!)... on: December 21, 2008, 12:40:44 AM

Quote from: The Grue on December 20, 2008, 11:41:05 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 20, 2008, 08:57:34 PM

Quote from: The Grue on December 20, 2008, 08:35:46 PM

Finally got around to beating all the levels that came with the game.  The Indian-themed stuff was probably my favorite in the game.  I have been putting off trying to create my own stuff, but I think I will take a shot at it soon.

I've tried to get through one of the last Collector levels at least a dozen times. 
Spoiler for Hiden:
The one with the wheel of doom.  Ugh.

I will say that creation, for as big as a pain in the ass as it is, is very satisfying when it comes together.

You'll hate me, but I didn't have that much trouble with it.  I think I made it through the level the first time I tried.

I hate you.

Although I figured out one of the tricks which is, on the final section, instead of barely-controllable running and jumping, you more or less stay in place and jump.  It clicked when I started doing that.  Still didn't get it in one, but I see completion on the horizon.

I will say that level highlights a lot of the control frustrations I have with the game.  The conveyor belt is harder than it should be because it is not a smooth change to go from one direction to the other, for example.
13058  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] littlebigplanet impressions (& mgs level pack info!)... on: December 20, 2008, 08:57:34 PM

Quote from: The Grue on December 20, 2008, 08:35:46 PM

Finally got around to beating all the levels that came with the game.  The Indian-themed stuff was probably my favorite in the game.  I have been putting off trying to create my own stuff, but I think I will take a shot at it soon.

I've tried to get through one of the last Collector levels at least a dozen times. 
Spoiler for Hiden:
The one with the wheel of doom.  Ugh.

I will say that creation, for as big as a pain in the ass as it is, is very satisfying when it comes together.
13059  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] littlebigplanet impressions (& mgs level pack info!)... on: December 20, 2008, 05:10:30 PM

Quote from: maccwerk on December 20, 2008, 04:36:09 PM

Any word on whether the new patch addresses the 1080i scaling issue?

I didn't see anything on that.  It did add a LBP Store to the menus, though, letting you buy stuff without going to the PSN Store.

Isn't the 1080i thing an issue with the PS3 overall?
13060  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 20, 2008, 03:48:46 PM

Quote from: Turtle on December 20, 2008, 01:41:06 PM

Yeah, people are a bit too quick to bandy around terms like sinking ship, and sealed fate.  I mean, earlier this year we were talking about how MS completely lost steam in early 2008, now look at the 360.  If the PS3 can recapture early 2009 again, and this time keep the momentum going, it'll be on much better footing.

So, for 2009 we need:

Lower manufacturing costs for the PS3, which should be helped by bluray acceptance and bluray players reducing in price.

Lowered price for the PS3, hopefully to at least $300.

A good set of new games, which it looks like we'll get with inFamous, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, White Knight Chronicles (maybe), God of War 3, Heavy Rain, and more.

More community features, such as cross game friend invites.  Ditching Home overall and making it some kind of party/avatar system.

Restore backwards compatibility so game buying PS2 users can more easily transition to the PS3.

Can the idiot execs and unite under one vision, preferably not Japanese.

Now, if only someone could tell Sony execs to do these things.

No kidding.  And almost none of the things you've mentioned will happen in the first half of 2009.

Obviously, these "sinking ship" articles are just projections, but they are based on what's happening and what's planned for the coming months.  I just saw an article where Sony apparently said there will be no price drop before Summer 2009 at the earliest.  Whoever the jackass is that's "sticking to his guns" needs to be disposed of with extreme corporate prejudice.

The fact that third party developers aren't making everything cross-platform anymore is an early warning that the rats are leaving the ship, too.

Quote from: Canuck on December 20, 2008, 10:13:16 AM

I can't see Sony finishing better than 3rd this time around but that doesn't necessarily mean they're a sinking ship.

The point isn't that Sony is a sinking ship, it's that the PS3 is one.  Of course it's possible for them to come back strong next go 'round.  They may even bail on the PS3 to focus on that.  I will say they haven't shown any indication that they even have an interest in what gamers want, though.  That's a problem of their heirarcy.  It's like a wig corporation running a TV network.

Quote from: CeeKay on December 20, 2008, 06:02:47 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 19, 2008, 09:02:37 PM

Quote from: The Grue on December 19, 2008, 08:57:59 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on December 19, 2008, 07:50:53 PM

Quote from: jblank on December 19, 2008, 06:55:06 PM

the differences between Blu-Ray and DVD are easily apparent.

No, it's not.


I think it is.  Which one of us is right?

I think it's the one of you who doesn't live entirely in the dark.

I;d rather trust a somewhat sentient thing that lives in the dark than an erotic vegetable....

Good point.
13061  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Zombie Blasting Safe House Crashing Vomit Dodging Friday Night December 19 on: December 20, 2008, 03:43:20 PM

Quote from: Turtle on December 20, 2008, 01:55:29 PM

A usualy strategy goes like this:  One hunter goes in to distract, by either leaping around or pouncing on someone.  The boomer spawns and vomits, don't spawn early as the boomer makes so much noise no one will pay attention to the hunter.  The rest of the infected close in.

Hunters and Smokers should wait for any horde to right on top of the suvivors before doing their thing, but with boomer hordes look for the ones with vomit on them because the horde will only go after them.  If you pin or snare someone with a horde right on top of them, the horde will add to your own attacks, multiplying the damage you do in one go, not to mention shielding you from gunfire.

Is there any sort of specific trigger for when a horde is set loose?  Sometimes it feels like you could wait the whole game for one.
13062  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] littlebigplanet impressions (& mgs level pack info!)... on: December 20, 2008, 05:29:04 AM
LBP's new, improved search engine is up!
13063  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 19, 2008, 10:39:52 PM

Quote from: Laner on December 19, 2008, 10:25:30 PM

Quote from: Sarkus on December 19, 2008, 10:22:41 PM

At this point I don't think backwards compatibility means much.  Have you looked at the PS2 offerings at major retailers recently?  It's going away fast.  Sure, GameStop will continue to offer tons of used PS2 games but outside of their customers it's not that important.
"recently" doesn't really matter to me.  But there's 8 years worth of good PS2 games that I never managed to play the first time around, so I went out of my way to find a BC-capable PS3 a couple of months ago.

BC is huge.  Especially for PS3.  I went far, far out of my way to make sure my PS3 had hardware BC.  I spend most of my time on the PS3 playing PS2 games (and watching movies). 

For someone who already has a PS2, it saves space.  For everyone else, it opens up your catalogue to a staggering degree.  Plus it gives parents many cheap options in the bargain bins.
13064  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 19, 2008, 09:02:37 PM

Quote from: The Grue on December 19, 2008, 08:57:59 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on December 19, 2008, 07:50:53 PM

Quote from: jblank on December 19, 2008, 06:55:06 PM

the differences between Blu-Ray and DVD are easily apparent.

No, it's not.


I think it is.  Which one of us is right?

I think it's the one of you who doesn't live entirely in the dark.
13065  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Crash Commandos on PSN on: December 19, 2008, 08:40:38 PM

Quote from: Canuck on December 19, 2008, 04:45:56 AM

Where's the video? I clicked on it but there was no demo and no preview.

I found it in the Playstation Store.

IGN's review is up: 8.5.

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Crash Commando is a really fun multiplayer-focused title that should appeal to pretty much anyone with a pulse. I wish there were more modes included with the shipping version, and I think the sniper rifle will prove to be a little unbalanced, but what's there is an extremely addictive experience that will serve you well during the coldest part of the year.

I've heard elsewhere that the controls are a little wonky, but the word "addictive" keeps coming up.

GamesRadar used it in their review, too, but only gave it a 6.

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You'll love
Curious combo of influences
Whole-heartedly addictive
Lots of guns and vehicles
You'll hate
Not very deep
Fiddly to control
Needs more levels
13066  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Crash Commandos on PSN on: December 19, 2008, 04:12:17 AM
Anyone try Crash Commandos on PSN?  The video looks kind of fun, and the one review I saw is pretty positive (but it does seem like more of a preview).
13067  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 18, 2008, 06:31:25 PM

Quote from: JayDee on December 18, 2008, 06:17:24 PM

I think #2 is way off of the mark. It's not so much that no one cares about hi-def DVD's it's that there are numerous Blu-Ray players on the market of equal quality to the PS3 for much less money. Heck, I bought a Blu-Ray player made by Sony themselves that was $160 cheaper than a PS3. I have no desire to play PS3 games since I already have a 360, so why would I buy one just for Blu-Ray when there are cheaper options available?

It was a major deciding factor for me.  And now Blu-Ray is not gaining the momentum they'd hoped it would, and the economy plus the inevitability of downloadable HD media will drive the nail in the coffin.  My TV only does 720p (early adopter, me), so I don't really see the difference between DVD and BR.  Additionally, I think even a lot of the less expensive 1080p sets don't show much of a difference.  And less expensive is what people have been buying.

But #3 is the kicker.  LBP was the only exclusive worth writing home about, and it's just not designed to be the crowd-pleaser Sony wanted it to be.  I know there are some others that people liked (Valkyria Chronicles being one of them), but I don't see any of those selling consoles.
13068  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Williams Pinball Classics News Post on: December 18, 2008, 06:15:51 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 18, 2008, 05:20:49 PM

I just can't get into computer pinball.  There's not enough of a feedback to scratch that itch.

If you've got a Wii, give it a try.  It's got a little more sensory feedback in the way the controls are set up.  Still not the same as a real table, of course, but there's more to it for sure.
13069  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Free Radical Shuts Down on: December 18, 2008, 04:52:21 PM
Bummer.  I always liked them.  Both TimeSplitters and Second Sight.

I guess TS 4 is not happening now.

Is Haze cheap now? 

EDIT TO ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION:  Yes.  Yes, it is.  http://www.amazon.com/Haze-Playstation-3/dp/B000SQ5LQE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1229619153&sr=8-1
13070  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rise of the Argonauts on: December 18, 2008, 04:16:30 PM

Quote from: ibdoomed on December 18, 2008, 04:05:32 PM

Quote from: Pharaoh on December 18, 2008, 04:02:12 PM

Everyone seems to forget these days that the only reason Achievements were even invented is Microsoft had this proposed plan where you were rewarded for how well you did in games at the Microsoft Store. You could trade in your achievement points for other games, gears, software, crap like that. Of course, none of this ever happened, but the intention was never e-peen.  icon_lol

Ha, right. M$ give away free stuff? Sorry but that sounds far fetched. I'm not saying it's not true, just that I don't believe M$ would ever intend on following through.

I think this was what people were projecting on the gamerscore thing when it was announced.  I don't believe this was ever put forth by Microsoft.  It would be a terrible business model.
13071  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rise of the Argonauts on: December 18, 2008, 03:36:28 PM

Quote from: ibdoomed on December 18, 2008, 03:04:20 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 18, 2008, 01:48:19 PM

Achievements have nothing to do with Xbox Live.  However, I'm pretty sure you can turn off all notifications somewhere in the 360 settings.

Ah ok, I thought the whole point of achievements/trophies was to stroke you're ego and/or show off your epeen, so I assumed being networked was the whole point. I'm quite sure the 360 gives the option to turn them off so Sony better follow suit or I'm done buying games for it.

Just a technical note:  I don't think the 360 turns off the achievements, so much as the notification about them, but I imagine that's what would bug you anyway.

Also, there is something under the PS3 Settings/System Settings called Notification Messages which you can set to Display or Do Not Display.  Even though it doesn't list trophies specifically, this sounds like the exact thing that the 360 has.
13072  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Williams Pinball Classics News Post on: December 18, 2008, 03:34:10 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 18, 2008, 02:10:39 PM

Doh!  I don't have a Wii, so I never payed any attention to the previous titles.

Thanks, I'll make the change.

No worries!  I don't know that PHoF is worth getting a Wii for, but if you happen to get one, it's a well done game.
13073  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rise of the Argonauts on: December 18, 2008, 01:48:19 PM

Quote from: ibdoomed on December 18, 2008, 01:33:14 PM

Quote from: Canuck on December 18, 2008, 06:15:49 AM

Poor PS3 just can't win.  People complained when there were no trophies and now it has trophies and people still complain.  You're playing a game where you can't die-how immersive is that?

How difficult would it be to add a switch to turn trophies off, I sure as hell never asked for them. The 360 turns them off doesn't it? I don't recall ever being annoyed by them anyway. It probably doesn't show them because I don't keep the consoles plugged into the network so how would that even work?

???

Achievements have nothing to do with Xbox Live.  However, I'm pretty sure you can turn off all notifications somewhere in the 360 settings.
13074  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official Rock Band DLC News, Impressions, and Comments Thread on: December 18, 2008, 01:19:01 PM

Quote from: Malificent on December 18, 2008, 12:59:21 PM

I know it probably sucks for guitar and drums but I can't resist a free download of Jonathan Coulton's Still Alive. I'm going to have lots of fun vocally mangling that one.

I actually found it kind of fun on guitar.
13075  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Williams Pinball Classics News Post on: December 18, 2008, 01:16:31 PM
To Whomever posted the News post on the main page about Williams Pinball Classics hoping that Black Knight would make it to the Wii, it already has.

Pinball Hall of Fame - The Williams Collection has the following tables:

Black Knight
Firepower
Funhouse
Gorgar
Pin*Bot
Space Shuttle
Taxi
Whirlwind
Jive Time
Sorcerer

It's a pretty good collection, and it's been out for awhile now.  Probably even cheap by now!
13076  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rise of the Argonauts on: December 18, 2008, 04:03:04 AM
The IGN PS3 review is out, and it got a 6.2.

The comments are completely different, for a change:

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It's great to see original intellectual properties try things a little differently, something that could be said of Liquid Entertainment's Rise of the Argonauts. With a storyline and characters rooted firmly in Greek mythology, there's an element for those who know or admire the Classics to enjoy. The problem is how the game's put together so much has been stripped from what we traditionally think of as an RPG and an action game that the result feels like an awkward, neutered hybrid bloated by hours and hours of static dialogue sequences. Add a sloppy combat system in which the most basic moves serve you well all game long and some serious framerate issues, and the result is a frustratingly limited product that, even as it weaves an interesting tale of deceit and betrayal, fails to rise above the compromises made for its hybrid design.

Oh, wait...
13077  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rise of the Argonauts on: December 17, 2008, 04:54:16 PM

Quote from: ibdoomed on December 17, 2008, 04:19:05 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 17, 2008, 03:39:18 PM

are they that disruptive?  I have a PS3, but seeing as I haven't bought a game for it at all this year I haven't had any experience with the new trophy system yet.

I couldn't play POP for more than 10 minutes as the constant "OMG! CoNgRaTs! U PRSSD the STRT button!!!" popups completely ruined the immersion factor, which is the whole point I play games. I'm starting to regret the PS3.

The PoP achievement (and, I assume, trophy) wording was annoying.
13078  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Dash of Destruction XBLA on: December 17, 2008, 04:35:44 PM
So, this free Doritos thing came out.  It's much better than the Yaris deal, but I'm glad it's free.  I played through the dino levels in about 15 minutes.  I guess I'll try the trucks now.


EDIT: 

Well, I've done both sides now and unlocked every achievement except one.  I think I've spent a half hour total.

Of course, that one achievement is to win a multiplayer event.  The chaotic goofiness of this could make MP an amusing diversion.  However, I've been waiting online for a bit now, and no one's playing.

Overall, I never would have paid for this, but it's kind of dumb fun.
13079  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Looks like the MGS4 360 port will be announced soon on: December 17, 2008, 04:33:11 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 17, 2008, 04:26:17 PM

Quote from: Laner on December 17, 2008, 04:03:59 PM

The international power symbol is associated with Apple?  Never heard that one before.

they invented it  paranoid

I'd read that rumor online, but it appears no one actually knows where it came from. 

It's actually officially a Stand-By symbol.  It is featured in the Applegeeks webcomic, I guess, but it's also been used by Gateway computers.

EDIT:  I was just randomly surfing after this, and here it is, dressed up in the Best Buy Geek Squad Service Protection Plan logo (whew!):

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat13508&type=page&pspPrdId=1218009788457&pspSkuId=8962438&cItemId=cid&ppId=1215819591748&pSkuId=8947964&pageType=PDPPage&h=387
13080  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rise of the Argonauts on: December 17, 2008, 04:07:06 PM

Quote from: Pharaoh on December 17, 2008, 03:27:54 PM

Impressions:

Its certainly not going to win any awards for AAA polish. The tutorial phase and intro sessions do a poor job of explaining the mechanics of the game, and the characters are placed without much background. The combat is very clunky at first (which I found out is intentional, more later), and the loading times are somewhat jarring. We aren't talking 10 seconds of load times, just everyone on the screen freezes while it loads, I'll have to test with an HD install.

However, past this, it really is God of War, Gladius, some Conan 360, and the Mass Effect conversation system. It tries to balance the line between basic RPG and action game, and while it never seems to excel at either, it does a respectable job bringing both genres to the table without either detracting from the experience. It has very stylized representations of many Greek myths and characters, and texture work is solid. The upgrade mechanics seem to be one of the best parts of the game, as the entire world has "deeds" hidden inside it, which are acts you perform in the world with a small clue of what they are. These deeds coincide to over 15 different constellations in the sky, each representing a part of the game. For example, after the intro level, you are placed on your home island, and can do little side quests like mourning your fallen soldiers, read info markers about Greek myths, discover flashbacks with your wife, train your city guard in a little combat tutorial, all sorts of stuff. Even conversation paths (displayed in the Mass Effect system) each place you further in a gods favor. Ares gives you Chaotic Neutral, Apollo is more Paladin Good, Hermes is Neutral, and Athena is Chaotic Good.

When these deeds are achieved, the star in the constellation is completeled, and you can then dedicate that deed to one of 4 Olympians. Ares, Hermes, Apollo, and Athena. This is turn fills up their dedication bar (think GoW soulbar) and unlocks a point you can use to fill in each gods 5 tier Diablo 2 skill tree system. Ares specializes in mace attacks, stuns, and aoe attacks, Hermes is about speed, critical, and sword combat, Apollo is about defense, healing, and shield combat, while Athena provides lightning powers, ranged combat, and spear attacks. After spending time filling up my Apollo tree, what started as clunky shield blocking and dodge combat became fluid, as I had finally upgraded it through its patron god, and therefore he rewarded me. Its a little annoying that you start out as such a scrub, but if you devote yourself to the right gods, you get powerful quick. On a side note, each god has 4 "god powers" that you can unlock, similar to GoW, except matching the theme of their deity. Your standard AoE Bomb, Heal, invincibility, Medusa head, etc.

The gameplay is structured with hub style levels. Once you acquire the Argos and start to populate its crew with the Argonauts (duh  icon_biggrin ), you can select the different islands to start on your quest for the Golden Fleece. Each island is visually unique and shows vivid colors and some great character work. In between, you can talk to your crew on the Argo (ala mass Effect) and learn more about them historically, and upon getting to your level, you can choose one of them to fight with you. So far they seem fine AI wise, I've never paid attention to Pan or Hercules, and they beat the crap out of the mobs that are near them.

Combat is different in that it really uses shields as defensive systems rather than just show. If a mob has a shield, you cant just button mash him until he dies (well, you can, but you break down his shield first, and the other mobs will break you down). You can find the weak point in the animation to strike, or use the games rock paper scissors mechanic (sword beats mace, mace beats spear, spear beats sword, etc, shield blocks and stuns). Its clunky at first like I said, but as your start to worship each weapons deity, the mechanics start to arrive.

Ragdoll items are upgradeable as well, as you start with the default Mace, Sword, Spear, and Shield and leather armor. By the end of the first island, I had upgraded all of them, and each is a full graphic overhaul, with actual stories behind the item. I didn't just find some new spear called "Heartrazor", I did a quest to honor one of the guards who died in the defense of my castle, and upon delivering it to his father to be used as a standard at his grave, the father told me my kindless (because I chose Apollo convo choices), it should go with me on my quest to find the Oracle of Delphi. I'm sure I'd get it either way, but the fact they have dialogue to react to how you speak to quest NPCs shows some passion.

Which I guess summarizes why I like it alot. Its got passion. The developers took the time to give each skill, weapon, god, constellation, deed, achievement a story you can read with the Y button. A new mace isn't a new mace, its got a story you can read that tells you where its from, etc....one of Apollos skills quotes Plato....each piece of the game obviously took alot of dedication and forethought to flush out as much as they did. Its certainly not perfect, it could have used a couple more weeks of polish, but from a content and gameplay perspective, if you are at all a fan of God of War, Greek Myth, Clash of the Titans, and some hybrid RPG/action gameplay, it could definitely be worth your time. With the Xmas season coming up, I certainly look forward to spending the couple days after Xmas to finish this bad boy up.

7.8/10



Let us know how it fairs with extended play.

It's off my Buy Now list, but it certainly is hovering in the Buy Cheap list.
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