My main issue with prequels is that generally speaking, they're attempting to build suspense when the audience already knows how it ends. It's like, you know how Star Wars Episode III ends, and it wasn't like it was going to have a twist ending or surprise you in the end (twirling/leaping CGI Yoda or not). I'm sure Rogue One will attempt to be an interesting journey but the destination (stealing Death Star plans) seems pretty set in stone.
And really, the Death Star? Again? For a third movie essentially?
And if you remember the beginning of Star Wars, none of the Rebel forces can hit the broad side of a barn at 5 paces with a blaster anyway. Though maybe the Rogue One guys actually know how to aim and lead their targets.
And sure, I'll watch it anyway. I guess I'm more keen on the possible Bobba Fett and maybe even a Darth Maul spin off movie, something where they build back story for an interesting, cool-but-marginalized/underdeveloped character.
I wish we could talk about the show more without every single word in spoiler codes. Has anyone else watched the whole season yet?
My brother was texting me about it and asked me if I was grossed out by some particularly violent scene, which made me think he'd watched the whole season. Which he hadn't. Now I guess I have to learn how to put spoiler codes in texting -- is that even possible?
My problem is, Snyder is cynically deciding that a 2nd Man of Steel both needs to be "the dark sequel" (Empire Strikes Back) and must single handedly be the springboard for several other new films (Wonder Woman, Aqua Man) and reboots (Affleck-Batman, apparently with his own Iron Man suit borrowed from Miller's The Dark Knight Returns). It's so overstuffed, it makes Spider-Man 3 seem like it didn't have enough plotlines.
To me, this movie makes sense if you give the Superman reboot its own trilogy and then revisit it as "Batman v Superman" maybe 20 years down the road. As "Superman Awakens."
Instead, you've got one Man of Steel film that was essentially a rebooted origin movie, and now BOOM, we're supposed to buy Superman already as an aging, hated, figure of suspicion -- shtick already explored in Hancock (2008) and arguably all the X-Men films.
I just go back to that first, imho, great trailer for Man of Steel. Of course later I read in Hans Zimmer's interviews that the trailer took all his music out of sequence and used it in a way that made the trailer seem like for a more "traditional" uplifting comic book movie. I liked the theme in the MoS trailer that Superman would initially be feared, the government wanted to destroy him, and then he'd proved what his motives were. And then of course instead we got mass building destruction, neck breaking and big flying penises (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V69cbB-NaQ). Which is fine. It's Zack's baby now.
Can you re-post your Falcon photos? I'm just seeing IMGUR error images instead of the photos on page 1 of the thread.
The thing of it is, if I'd gotten a Falcon, I probably would've upgraded the video card to 970 or 980 GTX, and these are apparently considered fairly common "coil whine" committers (the cheaper 970 more often). I'm pretty sure that's what's doing it for me, but I love the card's performance. The buzzy only bothers me when I'm doing anything but gaming.
Anyway, would love to see how the Falcon looks inside and stuff. Maybe it'll give me some cable-routing ideas for my own system.
Dice’s Ingvarsdottir acknowledged that the title must also appeal to less experienced gamers to be considered a success.
To that end, she highlighted “Battlefront’s” single-player missions, which are essentially one-off battles that seek to re-create famed sequences from the original trilogy. They can be played alone or with a friend via split screen or online. The game is taking a vignette approach rather than building an extended single-player narrative.
DICE wants players to focus on creating an experience that is fun to share with friends. Battlefront's Partner feature is core to this idea: Once a friend is invited to be a partner, you become a tag team that plays together, spawns together and can even share unlocks with each other. Have a friend lagging behind in progression? This feature helps bring you closer.
They can customize their gameplay style, playing in franchise-classic third-person mode or in first-person and switching on the fly.
I've been ignoring this, but being able to play in 3rd person (I guess I thought the other iterations were FPSs) and the one-off single player missions, and the Partner feature give me some hope I might enjoy it. Well, a lot of even 3rd person games give me motion sickness now, so hopefully there'll be demo by year's end.
I’m not sure I would have thought the new Daredevil show was possible before I’d seen the new Daredevil. ... We allow for qualifiers to scaffold that which is connected with our passions; a show may be “good for a comic show,” which is another way of saying “bad.” ... You have Netflix, I feel very confident of this. If not, you know someone who does. Here’s what’s going on with Daredevil. I don’t really have to say much, and after I say it, I’m just going to step back. Daredevil is a comic show that you can watch without feeling like an asshole.
For Business News Nerds, read the reaction globally was so positive that it boosted Disney's stock share prices. Thought it looked more like just a half day blip Thursday: https://www.nyse.com/quote/XNYS:DIS
What? No breathless hyperventilation about the leaked "shaky cam" trailer? Finally got removed last night I think. It's the one that's to debut in theaters before Mad Max Fury Road. Rumor is that it may have been taken by someone invited to an early screening of Avengers: Age of Ultron.
It starts out extremely shaky (Blair Witch Project/Cloverfield shaky), then presumably whomever snuck a camera into a theater found a way to stabilize it. Although the trailer audio was in English, it had subtitles on, which I found peculiar. I dunno, maybe that was added later.
I watched it at one of the various news sites embedding the video, and found it very serious, ponderous and dark and grim (by design, so, not really a criticism per se). Affleck looked fine imho as Batman, very neat suit, but the trailer really doesn't give much insight onto his Batman-take or why he's so doggone mad at Superman. Supposedly it's over the devastation in Man of Steel, I just didn't really Get That from this trailer. Visually it's in line with all of Zak Snyder's stuff, very green screen-focused.
Didn't see Wonder Woman or Aqua Man, or maybe the trailer was so dark I couldn't make them out.
Also puzzling was the movie title clearly had "vs." not "v." So it'll be interesting to see if the theatrical trailer reflects that revision.
Basically the trailer is, "Batman Hates Superman" or "Batman Thinks Superman is a Putz." But that fits the title, right?
I'm wondering if the sphere "puppet" tech is anything like the Sphero toy: http://www.gosphero.com/sphero/ *Obviously that doesn't have a head sliding around its surface.
The world does actually have people (not I) who prefer SW episodes I-III to the original trilogy, as hard as that may be to believe. I have witnessed them at various forums. An opinion's an opinion, right? A lot of youngsters grew up with that most recent trilogy. I suspect they wouldn't be impressed by practical effects or seeing their favorite 72 year old action star of yore back in gear (Harrison Ford).
I, on the other hand, was re-watching the teaser trailer 2 on my iPhone at like 4:30 a.m. when I was having trouble getting back to sleep.
For me it boils down to the screenplay, and while I'm not always keen on JJ's screenwriting (see Ford in "Regarding Henry"), I was excited about Lawrence Kasdan co-writing SW:TFA, so even if LK is not the Empire-Raiders-Jedi screenwriter that he once was, I have faith he can give the story the right mix of drama, humor, action and pathos and that he has the right feel for the original trilogy characters. Plus, JJ won't let him write Boring. Though only time will tell if JJ reigned in his Lens Flare Addiction.
So I went ahead and kept it. It's fast, runs cool, has been bulletproof in pretty much every game I've run on it so far. I think that's what's important.
While now I'm thinking maybe the annoying sound was just GTX 970 coil whine afterall (and really, when I'm gaming, I don't notice anything, so I'll live), I did go ahead and replace the 500W Delta power supply. It's marketed as "Silence defined," so it seemed made for me, right? Of course now essentially I'm flushing away the Antec system warranty. Maybe I'll regret it, but I've never gotten warranty service done on store-bought PCs in 23 years, and generally have been upgrading them (more often video cards, hard drives etc.) soon after getting them, over that time.
*While it has these cool "anti-vibration" rubber gaskets (red and black colors included), I had to skip it -- just not quite enough room (as the Antec manual warned). The PSU has the same slot dimension as the 500W Delta, just a bit longer. The case has a little side lip to support the PSU so it's not "dangling by the mounting screws."
As weird as the drive bracket may be, having such a roomy case and small motherboard actually made the PSU removal and installation relatively easy. I won't call it a "snap," but I did it Sunday afternoon and really wasn't anything scary. Just been 8 years since I've done it before.
No, I won't get the Tidy Cable Routing of the Year Award. I may eventually try to tidy it up a bit; mostly I just wanted to keep the cables away from the fans. As does the Corsair I was considering, the Antec uses flat black modular cables rather than round/cylindrical cables. The GPU cable had dual six-pin connectors on one cable, and the SATA cable had three connectors. So it's not so much I have too many cables, I just didn't have ties to tidy up the spaghetti.
Replacing the PSU was pretty satisfying, whether it was really necessary or not. Everything booted up and worked fine afterwards. I think maybe next time, whenever that is, I'll finally Build My Own. I guess I've been most intimidated by motherboard-installation, and the thermal paste that was required (maybe still is) for CPU installation, and the PSU. It doesn't look like the latest CPUs requiring messing with paste (or maybe they still do), and certainly a motherboard like this one essentially just screws in with 4 screws. And of course the PSU is not brain surgery. I did find it useful to stick Post-It notes labeling some of the cables on the old PSU before I removed it.
I'm betting one practical reason for the Stormtrooper helmet visor change -- seems to be much wider, wraparound dark lenses -- is so the poor folks wearing them can actually see where they're going.
While I've of course already seen this trailer 57 times at work , it'll be fun to see it on the Avengers double feature date... well, I wonder if maybe we won't have trailers before the Thursday night show. All the more reason I'll have to run back and see it again per my custom.
Sounds like a great rig. I too was considering Falcon (Talon or the ultra-compact Tiki). Just couldn't configure it to my tastes without ending up with a $3,000+ system that presumably would still be obsolete in 3 years.
Of course I ended up with the Asus gaming PC and the neverending Search for the Buzz, which now appears to just have been the video card coil whine (NVIDIA 970 GTX) so many others online complain about. Or maybe it's a malfunctioning Flux Capacitator on my motherboard.
So best wishes on the Falcon, and I hope it's free of any weird noises or what-not.
The "droid mechanics" is a great story from the broadcast -- apparently two die-hard fans who had made amazing R2-D2 replicas were recruited to build droids and droid-domes for the new movie, and perform "on the fly" maintenance on the sets (one guy, w/ specs, in the 5th photo above ).
I assume the BB-8 "puppet" is some sort of mix of gyroscope and magnets - still quite magical to see it in operation.
The campaign format, an influx of trolls/team-killers, and the cross-platform friends stuff not working -- all pretty much snuffed out my initial enthusiasm for Helldivers. I also canned the idea of finally getting an HDTV and PS4 just to play it.
While Patch 1.04 is not quite out yet, we thought we’d give you an update about some of the best things it will feature. There will of course be an updated complete set of patch notes as the patch goes live.
We don’t know exactly when it will be out, as it will need to be approved in the QA process, but it shouldn’t be too long now!
Highlights: -DLC Packs (entitlements) can now be shared with local users. -Further improved cross-friends discoverability. -Fix for receiving missing trophies from participating in the last war. -People you have played with will show up in ‘recent players met’. -Improved colourblind support. -A multitude of fixes for community reported bugs.
Balancing: -Rebalanced Illuminate. -Rebalanced several stratagems. -Increased available number of Commends and Reports.
So a couple of things might finally let me play with folks that I've enjoyed playing with. In its current state, at least as a Vita player, it's just not been possible. Many of us still want a simple "invite a friend into my game" feature, and for whatever reason, still doesn't seem to be in the works.
The rebalancing probably amounts to "Illuminates are a ginormous pain in the ass for many players," and many stratagems seem Too Powerful while others essentially seem useless. So it'll be interesting to see what the rebalancing does. Like any game, it inevitably won't please anybody, especially since they have no big test server where they can try changes out for player feedback first.
I finally ordered my Avengers double feature ticket for an AMC showing Thursday, April 30. Avengers is on at 4 p.m., and I'd guess Ultron shows around 7. Supposed to end about 9:50 p.m.
It's at a decent size ETX screen, though certainly I'll have to run back and see it on IMAX later.
Poor Joss has sounded utterly exhausted and burned out in interviews though he certainly seems to love the characters, cast, crew, Marvel Studio folks etc. Sounds like he simply wants time with his family again, vacation and maybe do something Tiny next time, and I don't mean an Ant-Man sequel. I suspect - reading between the lines - if they only wanted a 3rd Avengers film he might be willing but the idea of tackling back-to-back (3 and 4) sequels probably isn't something he wants to tackle at this point.
While I certainly loved Captain America: Winter Soldier, and essentially the directing duo and screenwriting duo of that film will be handling Avengers 3 & 4, the Russo brothers and the Marcus/McFeely writing team (Cap 1 & 2, Thor: The Dark World) aren't Joss Whedon. So those sequels won't be like the first two precisely no matter what they do. The Russos seem of the "in your face" zoomed in style of action scenes much of the time, whereas Joss seems great at pulling back a bit so you can see clearly what's happening.
While 3 and 4 are years away, I'll certainly be curious to see if those four gents can take the baton from Whedon and successfully run with it. It says something for Joss that Marvel essentially is hiring 4 people to succeed him in what he did solo.
Customers who bring their Taco Bell receipt to McDonald's before April 17 will get a free Egg McMuffin sandwich at participating locations in Pennsylvania. The gimmick started on April 3, according to the Twitter account for McDonald's of Northeast Pennsylvania.
Can't say the promo makes much sense to me. Since Taco Bell is now hawking various breakfast items, I guess McD's is trying to force a taste comparison or something?
I binged through the whole season by Saturday afternoon.
I was surprised by one two storyline developments. And the violence in a couple places left me a bit agog. Not in a controversial way (this is an MA rated show), just in a "did they really just do that?" way.
I certainly hope they get to do more DD seasons and look forward to his role in The Defenders at some point.
As far as the costume...
Spoiler for Hiden:
I like it -- both its practical advantages and its look; and we get to see some cool billy club stuff -- but you don't get to see it til the last episode. At least that means DD gets to wear it for The Defenders.
This is based on my horrific experience at a Carls Jr. by my hotel in Mississippi on a business trip last summer. It was the worst business trip meal I've ever had the misfortune to eat. And I loved Hardee's to death growing up. Maybe it was just a poorly run location and I'm not being fair, but I plan to stay away from that chain the rest of my life.
I fell asleep early and got up too early this morning, so I caught the first couple episodes on my iPad this morning. I give it a thumbs up -- just the characters clicked with me right away, and the casting seemed to fit the gritty vibe and the comics well, rather than the "pretty boy/girl" casting of Agents of SHIELD.
While Drew Goddard left after the first two episodes to tackle a Sinister Six movie for Sony instead, he wrote the first two episodes and gets a "created by" credit. Maybe akin to Frank Darabont on The Walking Dead. Goddard seemed to really set things up well.
While it's dark and grim, there's humor and some light here and there, as per the comic. Most of the episodes appear to be in the 51-53 minute category length-wise.
Guess I can't say much else without veering into spoilers -- I'm eager to get home and binge on the rest.
All episodes finally launch tomorrow (April 10). Although I've read a lot of good reviews/impressions, Marvel only made the first five episodes of the 13-episode season available for review. All episodes are supposed to be available for view at launch tomorrow.
Quote from: Mystic95Z on April 05, 2015, 12:42:47 PM
Does it buzz all the time or only when stressing the 970? They are notorious for coil whine and it should just like what you described. I have a Corsair 550D silent case and I can only barely hear it, but take the side panel off and its annoying.
It's all the time.
It's stupid funny but if I turn on my Brookstone desktop fan, that pretty much takes my mind off the buzz altogether. Warm weather to the rescue!
I did a headset mic test tonight, and it certainly seemed like the slight buzzing's there when the mic's next to the PSU. When I moved it down towards the case bottom and video card, it was simply some normal fan noise which doesn't really bother me. Now at least I have a recording of it for posterity/proof.
I am just favoring keeping it at this point. And when when I'm up to tackling it, I'll probably try a PSU replacement -- I'm fairly confident that's all I'd need to do. I'm eyeing now maybe something like a 750W, still probably that Corsair RM line. I suspect it's just some coil whine or capacitator whine in the Delta PSU, top notch OEM power supply or not. There's relatively few PSU connectors to worry about it in the case, so it should be pretty straightforward if/when I do it.
I did find this thread interesting/comforting/worrying in that so many people complain about weird PSU noises:
Noisy PSU? Read this first! http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=85166 *I tried the op's various Bios tweaks but had no effect. I don't think my buzz is even in the ballpark of some of the complaints there. Some complain about a buzzing sound driving them insane, others say they're getting tinnitus from it.
My Delta? A minor annoyance. My only problem right now is my head. The stuff I really want to play because they push this system (Shadows of Mordor, Ryse of Rome) are giving me motion sickness fits for some reason. So great, I finally have a powerful gaming PC but no real burning desire to play anything at the moment. At least I'll be ready when I do.
*I know Miller said it wasn't possible or maybe even a good idea at this point for Gibson to have a cameo appearance. It's just, that visage seemed similar to me. Maybe it's a millisecond homage? Or it's nothing.
As for Thunderdome, I did actually see it in a theater in late summer 1985 (I'm turning 50 this month so do the math! ). It opened about mid-July, I caught it in August I think. My recollection of my initial impression was I loved about the first third (including the actual Thunderdome battle), and the last third. I wasn't a big fan of the middle third which felt like "Mad Max and the island of misfit kids." The film did so-so box office ($36M or so in North America).
In retrospect, The Road Warrior/Mad Max 2 had such a perfect, haunting ending, I don't really know any more was necessary:
And the Road Warrior?
That was the last we ever saw of him.
He lives now
only in my memories.
At least, maybe for Gibson's take on the character. That said, of course I'd recommend any new fan go see all three movies. It's just kind of fascinating that even with the same director/start on all three films and of course the focus on vehicular mayhem being in common, they're each very different takes.
While I kinda wish theaters would do quadruple feature with those 3 films and the new one, maybe it's not fair to Tom Hardy, and it's just better to go watch Fury Road and enjoy it as its own thing. I'm sure one or more of the basic cable channels will be showing all the Mad Max films around the time Fury Road opens.
I was glad to finally see the first film Mad Max without any terrible "English dubbing." The film was of course in English but because some studio numbnuts thought Aussie accents were too thick, it was originally dubbed for U.S. release in almost comical form. With the original voices intact, it felt like a much better movie experience to me. The first film to me is almost like a Death Wish/Road Warrior hybrid, downright vicious at times, albeit like a speeding bullet of entertaining viciousness.
Lethal Weapon (1987) had not yet established Mel as a global box office star/draw. I think part of that was finally revealing he had a sense of humor, since the movies from Mad Max (1979) through about 1986 never let Gibson show any sense of humor at all. I think if they'd been able to pull together a Mad Max 4 around 1988-2000, that maybe was about the apex of Mel's box office drawing power/popularity. So I think that matches what Miller said, that they were within about 4 months of starting a MM4 with Gibson in place in 2001, but 9-11 hit and then Gibson's problems/issues hit, and then so went that possibility.
I think if the only thing bothering me is power supply buzz, and I can relatively easily fix that, I'd like to hang onto it. My thread makes it sound like I'm complaining about everything on the G10. Now I know that one specific noise is the only thing bothering me as far as day-to-day use. It's by far the best performing PC I've ever owned, really the only semblance of a gaming PC I ever owned. It also does seem to run noticeably cooler than my previous HP.
I do appreciate all the PSU insights and suggestions.
I'll return the case fan today, and maybe look at power supplies a bit. While Micro Center has a decent selection, certainly there's more brand/model variety online.
*The GTX 970 lists 500W power supply as requirement. The stock Delta seems like it is 500W max but more like 483W continous. The Corsair I was eyeing seems more like a true 550W continous, fwiw. I don't have any dual card plans but perhaps 650W would help "future proof" the system a bit?
Supposed to not spin its fan at all unless under heavy load (gaming), which would be fine. I mean, I accept a racket when I'm gaming, I just want a quiet experience when I'm web surfing and what not.
I maybe just need to do a little homework to make sure I pick a PSU that has sufficient connection-ness. I need two PCI-E connectors for the 970 GTX, and the RM550 seems to have that. I feel like then I'd have a fine PC. OK maybe the Toshiba HD brand is iffy but I'm pretty sure that's not the noise culprit afterall, at least.
I know Asus is cheap but I feel like this crappy Delta power supply maybe saved them $50 or so at most. I guess per unit, that adds up, but why not just charge $1,599 for a G10aj with a quiet, strong power supply instead of $1,499 with a buzzmeister?
Now I have to go learn the difference between a sleeve bearing, a rifle bearing, a dual ball bearing and a fluid dynamic bearing, as far as my power supply choices.
P.S. Oh yeah, the case fan is definitely exhausting air out of the case. I'll leave it alone.
This YouTube tutorial was helpful. Apparently the motor and the product label (serial #, electrical certification something, etc.) are typically on the "exhaust" side of the fan. So I'm pretty certain what's in the G10 is exhausting warm air out of the case (case ventilation).
I'm excited for MM:FR. I guess a theatrical Mad Max marathon wouldn't really make sense opening week Thursday given this is a reboot and all. Plus those films are 30-36 years old and getting digital prints (if they exist at all) for a bunch of theaters wouldn't make sense I guess. But hey, they were able to do it for Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) for the Indy marathon in 2012.
As much as I loved The Road Warrior (saw in army base theaters in Korea in the early 1980s and again at a college campus auditorium in 1983), I always felt the Amazon Woman character had promise and was prematurely killed off. So it sounds like Theron's character might be the first strong female character in a Mad Max movie to do more than just get run over or eviscerated with arrows half way through the movie.
It's good to read about director George Miller going back to his action roots. Didn't think I'd live to see the day.
OK, stupid case fan question -- is there an easy way to tell whether the lone case fan is "suction" (pulling cool air into the case) or "case ventilation" (expelling warm air outside the case)? I guess that's as simple as putting a little sheet of paper against the exterior fan opening -- I'd guess it would "suction" in place if it's pulling air inside, or just blow it away if it's exhausting.
I wanted to get a case fan today but now I read some models are better for case ventilation and others for pulling exterior air into the case and blowing it along heat sinks, radiators etc. Ron B. had helped me pick out a Noctua brand that looked promising (http://www.microcenter.com/product/405571/NF-F12_PWM_120mm_Case_Fan), but upon further reading that's meant for pulling air into the case and blowing it along heatsinks and radiators.
Noctua's pricer but in terms of low-noise seems to have a lot of enthusiastic fans... ba dump bump. And they seem to offer all sorts of noise-reduction features.
Although I really wanted to get something tonight, I feel like I need to confirm what kind of case fan it is (ventilation or drawing-air-in). I'm 90% certain it's a ventilation fan.
I just need to weigh whether replacing the case fan and maybe even the PSU (which I've done once before -- installing a nice 550W Antech quiet PSU on my old Compaq AMD PC in 2007) would remedy my sound complaints or not.
Replacing the case fan and PSU with especially low-noise stuff wouldn't be that expensive (maybe $200 tops altogether). Might even be fun. It's just, if it doesn't alleviate the buzzing, then I guess only the CPU fan would be left as culprit. I might have trouble getting the system back into a condition where Micro Center would accept a return on it.
I'm not really worried about violating Asus warranty per se (never have had a PC serviced under warranty in 23 years), but jeopardizing the 15-day MC return policy would be perhaps something to consider. I haven't quite yet gone crazy reinstalling games or restoring backed up photos, docs etc. So I haven't passed the point of no return yet.
Wishy-washy is my middle name, right? For now I'm determined to at least replace the fan with something quieter. I'll maybe go ahead and unplug the fan tonight and just boot it up briefly to see if it has any effect from annoying noise standpoint.
As in the Micro Center photo, the dwarf motherboard in the honking case
The not terribly well-thought of PSU brand: *While it could be the buzzy noise culprit, I just don't quite know how to test that.
As mentioned, I now don't believe the hard drives are the culprit(s), so I probably won't mess with 'em. I still am baffled by this drives cage -- I just don't see how you can remove it, tilt it, swivel it or whatever to access both sides of the drives.
*One case fan question I had -- are larger fans generally quieter? Although the G10 case clearly has a 120mm fan opening, it seems like they put an 80mm fan instead.
No, no. It's just a tiny man inside my ear canal who buzzes when I turn the Asus PC on. That's why when I stick my iPhone mic-first in I can't record any noise. Only my ears can pick up the tiny man inside my head
Just from past experience, I don't think foam lining on the case lid alone will do it (wrapping a thick gel seat cushion around the top and sides did nothing to muffle the noise). Given the mesh on the back part of the side panels, it just won't impact the noise.
Rationally, I think unplugging the case fan and doing a quick test power-on should reveal quickly if that's the buzz/whine culprit. I'd love for that to be the issue. I've replaced those before and it's just a few bucks. I wouldn't even have an issue replacing the power supply on this because the case is pretty roomy and easy to work in. But if I mess around too much with its innards I'm afraid that might make returning the system problematic if I choose to do that.
What's funny is that back in 2004, I bought a $2,000 PowerSpec from Micro Center but the overall system noise was horrific. Like a vacuum cleaner and hair dryer simultaneously horrific. I tried surrounding it with pillows, didn't help. Bought a sound foam insulation kit and stuck it all over, didn't help (only my mom's WD-40 suggestion enabled me to remove the adhesive when I ripped the foam out before returning the PC). I ate a $200 restocking fee to return it and went with a Compaq at another store, ended up being one of my favorite PCs 2004-2008.
I'll confess I'm baffled by the hard drive cage though. Every PC case I've had before, it was pretty clear how to get at hard drive slots. Some had nice side brackets with "squeeze to remove" features. Others might require loosening a screw or two to remove the entire HD bracket.
This one, when I got up close and examined it, I just couldn't figure it out. It seemed almost as if the whole HD cage is riveted in there, and I saw no lever or screws in a position to remove the whole bracket. I mean there has to be, right? If only for warranty servicing. I just don't know yet how it works. Maybe it's moot though. I think the HD and SSD are fine and don't think I need to mess with those.
If this doesn't work out (if I need to replace every part on the G10aj to make the noise bearable, it defeats the purpose of getting it), well, hell, maybe it'll finally be "build your own damn quiet PC" time afterall. Or buying some liquid cooled, no-fans type system. But given the G10aj's performance is so awesome, I want to try to make it work, within reason. I have until I guess next Saturday (April 11) -- that's the last day I can return it to Micro Center for a full refund.
My 2nd choice there was a Dell XPS 8700. That had a lesser video card (AMD R9 270), but more RAM (24GBB) and a larger SSD (256GB). Commenters online said it's a quiet machine but eh, who knows?
OK, you guys are gonna laugh. After popping the lid off, listening closely and doing some ear and sound insulation tests (this thick folding gel seat cushion I don't use much), I don't think it's the hard drive afterall. Once the lid's off, I put my ear up to the hard drive and SSD and there's nothing.
But I still hear the annoying buzz from SOMEthing.
I'm pretty sure the culprit is either the 80 mm case fan, the CPU fan or the power supply. I don't think it's the GTX video card. But I'm just damned if I can pinpoint it. Or maybe it's some combination. I'm kind of at a lost as to how to pinpoint it without doing something dangerous (disabling the CPU fan for example).
I guess I could disable the case fan easily enough (plug on the "baby" motherboard).
A little belated searching suggested I wasn't the only one: [from a guy selling his used one]
ASUS G10AJ-US010S Desktop I like the performance and look, it is a new lil noisy nevertheless it has the better capacity fans, my only negative might be the fans have a high pinch whine and that can become irritating.
For my part, I'm not too pleased with how the over arching campaign and event stuff works and have not played as much the last few days. Dev reps poke in here and there at PS forums to say they're taking notes about all the feedback so we'll see what future updates bring.
While I gave up on flight sticks ages ago (I think a Logitech Extreme is mothballed in my closet somewhere, that was my last purchase) I do swear by the durability of CH flight sticks in the day. I have fond memories of playing stuff like Dynamix' WWII combat flight sims and various Star Wars games in the 1990s.
I could never quite in my mind justify the prices on Thrustmaster's various offerings but I always enjoyed reading about them.
And while my ears obsess about (I think) the Toshiba non-SSD drive's hard drive vibration, I must reiterate that the system performs spectacularly and quietly (while remaining cool afik) in Shadows of Mordor, Ryse of Rome and Divinity: Original Sin, all of which auto-set to the highest graphics settings available. D:OS sets to "Beautiful" graphics setting, which I found amusing. Fast loading times, fast frame rates, no weird crashes and vertical line crash antics, as my HP with AMD 5600 was doing.
That's what I wanted. I'm fairly confident I won't return it just because hard drive vibration seems to be bothering me a bit. I just feel like I need to resolve that a bit before I can put my upgrade screwdrivers away.
Thanks. I trust that the Kingston SSD isn't the noise culprit.
While I'm not sure rubber grommet screws would do the trick (per Engine No 9's suggestion), they do tout deadening vibration. So maybe it's worth a try. I read in the review comments thread on one of these type screw kits that Dell for example uses rubber grommets on its hard drive screws but certain other PC makers don't.
I agree it's an odd MB choice but given Asus's middle name is motherboards, I assume it had a reason. Whether it was a good one I can't say. Maybe it was a mistake and the design team didn't have the heart to correct it?
If nothing else, it's a very clean interior. My HP was a mini ATX with a MB taking up the whole side but it was a horrible spaghetti mess. I had tackled a power supply replacement on my previous Compaq w/o much fuss. On the HP, I just didn't feel confident I could do it because everything was crammed in so tightly, it was difficult to figure out the cables, and I just didn't enjoy working inside its case at all.
I think I broke a tiny wire reinserting/removing video cards a while back. Couldn't really even figure out what the wire did. Probably something important.
Though if alleviating my hypersensitive ears with a few rubber-grommet screws worked, I reckon I owe it to myself to try. And the grommet screws would always be useful for a new drive too. I'm thinking out loud.
Last weird thing is the G10 has a tiny sticker on the lid seal. Something to the effect of don't open the case before reading the manual or something. I really can't even read the full text, it's so tiny. I might need a magnifying glass.
I assume it's not saying opening it would void the warranty (would seem ridiculous, provided I don't alter what's inside).
Thanks for all input, I like commiserating and not feeling "alone" on pondering hardware issues.
fwiw, here's the case interior (pic from Micro Center product page). And yes it does appear to use a Shuttle PC-size motherboard in a full-size case. That does at least keep the case interior neat and tidy and seems to improve air flow. The left side has open mesh towards back presumably to let the CPU fan blow heat out that way. The video card like many of these double deckers has its own heat exhaust port out the back.
Not crazy about the RAM chips being adjacent to the CPU, but it was similar on my HP. This machine seems to run noticeably cooler (as it's marked to do). Dunno about the slanted design -- presumably it's supposed to help use gravity to ease heat out the back, and maybe help keep dust out.
*So when I yak about noise, it seems to be from the hard drive mount area up front, high. The SSD is in the lower rack, the HD two above it. Seems to be an open slot between the two.
As I mentioned, it's not the case for folks who want to add lots of drives and cards. It is what it is, and it's a tremendous performer in games. But if I wanted to go crazy with drives and have dual video cards, I would have of course skipped this.