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1  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Serenity Trailer - HOLY CRAP!!!! on: June 29, 2005, 05:21:17 AM
I originally posted these impression at OO but figured you guys might be interested in case you don't visit over there or missed them. I'll quote my original post from seeing the movie the first time (in May) and then the rest is from following the most recent screening. It's long, but spoiler-free.

My brother, my wife and I saw Serenity last week (May) in Denver and Kaylee (Jewel Staite) was there. She looks a bit different lacking the aforementioned 20 pounds but she's still quite the attractive woman, and when she was doing her Q&A thing afterward, I caught my heart beating pretty heard as she answered one of my questions.

As for the movie, I'd pretty much have to go with unfreakingbelievable. As TO put it, I can't bear the wait till Sept. and I'm deperate for more of these unorthodox preview screenings, which I'll drag as many friends as possible to. I'm not sure exactly what I was expecting but it was certainly some degree of sanitation/commercialization so as to make the whole thing a bit more palatable to the outsider. As it was, I'm in absolute awe of Joss' script. He managed to set things up adequately for newcomers while still plopping you down in the middle of major plotlines from the series and really not simplifying any of the stories, characters, or relationships. A lot will be lost on outsiders but for those of us that are already fans, there's so much richness to the situations and dialogue that I guess I had assumed would be missing. Essentially what we're getting is a bigger, darker, higher-stakes 2 hour episode; a season finale with a monster budget. And what a ride it is. Not a single person in the theater (which sounds like it was quite a bit bigger than the Vegas one) wasn't laughing, screaming, or crying (or at least almost) at times. It's a real rollercoaster.

Jewel was amazing. She really is Kaylee. She answered questions for about 45 minutes and as you guys have said, is just cute as a button. I felt pretty bad for her with a lot of the questions because at times the nerd factor was almost sickeningly through the roof and when I was talking to her at the autograph table, it took all I had not to apologize for all the non-showering freaks who gave 10 minute speeches on the differences between Serenity and Ep. III. Still, she didn't seem to mind as much as I did and seemed extremely gracious, humble, and most of all grateful that they had the opportunity to get the movie made.

For those of us that are fans I think we feel the same way. My brother and I talked all weekend about it and came to the conclusion that the movie's basically perfect. I don't know how it turned out as good as it did but now we just all have to do our part to spread the word. I know I'll be loaning my DVDs out a lot in the next few months and for those of you that have been on the fence, put Firefly on your Netflix, NOW dammit! You know what the chain of command is?   

I failed to get tickets to this round (June) of screenings but on a whim last night went by the theater to see if anyone was selling extras. Plenty were and about 30 seconds later I was in a line that stretched all through the lobby still two hours before the screening. This time Universal guys were handing out some very official surveys, gathering demographic information, details about our tastes, whether we're fans or were dragged to the movie by someone, what or who (actor-wise) made us want to see the movie, whether or now we're familiar with and fans of Joss' work, etc. on the front side.

The back side was supposed to be for after the movie was over but since I'd seen it, I figured I'd get it done. Those questions had to do with how you'd rate it, whether or not you'd recommend it, who you'd recommend it to, and then some very detailed choices on your thoughts about the movie: Exciting? Too Confusing? Emotional? Too Silly/Stupid? Too Violent? Too predictable? This section scared me since I know these types of things have an inpact on the final cut.

While we were in line a ton of theater patrons kept asking what the line was for which allowed plenty of Firefly freaks the opportunity to spread the word. I guarantee you the movie title'll be on the minds of a lot of kids thanks to what a spectacle it was with all the Universal people and vid cameras about. They had reps going through the line meeting kids, asking if people drove out of state, writing down stories, etc. I took the opportunity to try to validate a rumor I've been hearing and here's the part of the post that you might be most interested in.

News: Lately on some Serenity boards there have been rumors of a pushed up release date due to the overwhelming success of these preview screenings. The Universal rep I talked to said this is absolutely true. They're blown away by them and kicking themselves for not having run this all summer. She said this could've been their Star Wars, which I laughed at. I said "probably not quite" but apparently they all have a lot of faith in this movie now. It's a very low budget movie by Hollywood standards and she said it has something most movies don't: a rabid fanbase that's willing to drag everyone they know to it. I argued that as Joss Whedon says in his intro to the screenings, it lacks a saleable premise and a star. She thinks the former with more than make up for the latter. In any case, hearing that the release date would be moved up direct from a Universal exec was cool. Later as we sat in the theater, a bunch of merch was handed out, among it the same poster we got last time (and Jewel [Kaylee] signed). I noticed though that where the last one said "In theaters September 30th", this one now says simply "Coming Soon". That they would print up a whole new batch of posters replacing the release date with an ambiguous "Coming Soon" lends a lot of credence to the rumor.

Anyway, the cut we saw this time was to my eyes very finished, save for lacking a final credits sequence. The color, sound, and picture issues from last time had all been remedied and it looked and sounded great. The FX shots that were unfinished now likewise were polished and looked awesome. In addition, a lot of new FX shots were added, mostly to place scenes (i.e. a shot of an alliance ship flying through space, then showing the characters on board so you now know where they are) which helped a lot in knowing what's going on and where. One of the most signifigant additions was the music, which was perfect. The placeholder music last time was pretty generic but for anyone that was a fan of the world/western/asian score of the series, it's there and it's great.

The first time I saw the movie, I was really overwhelmed. It's a lot to take in, and it absolutely barrages the senses and the emotions. The second time really wasn't much different. I was far more aware of what was going on in certain frantic scenes. I caught a lot more of the witty (awesome) dialogue, and obviously certain things resonated more. Overall though, went the lights went up I was still absolutely overwhelmed, drained, and blown away. I can't remember the last time I saw a movie and felt this way. I know a great deal of it has to with my feelings about the series and how grateful I am just to have new Firefly. But that should've worn off after the first time around. TV series or no TV series, the movie's absolutely amazing. I'm already dying to see it again. Hopefully we all won't have to wait as long as we thought.

As a side point, after the screening last night my brother and I both agreed that it's almost too much to take in plot-wise even for someone familiar with the characters. After seeing it twice we were having trouble working out some of the details of stuff. Someone new to the universe struggling to remember names and faces and such will likely have no idea what's going on a lot of the time. It's just the nature of the movie. It doesn't move slow and it doesn't pander to the newbie very much. All you could hope is that they're impressed enough with what they do take away from it that they want to go back and see it again. Then maybe if it clicks, a fan'll be born. For your unitiated friends and family though, I highly recommend at least showing them the pilot episode "Serenity" from the DVDs. That'll go a long way toward establishing a lot of things for them and allowing them to focus their efforts on the movie.

As to this thread, I'm seriously baffled by your reaction wbs. Except for people that took severe issue with certain specific events or plot points in the movie, I have yet to encounter anyone that was a fan of the TV show and was underwhelmed by the movie. This is after tons of discussions with a lot of friends, people at the screenings, and a lot of internet and forum perusing. The example of Harry Knowles is hardly comparable, as he wasn't a fan of the show and hasn't seen the movie at all. To each his own I guess. Maybe on a second viewing it'll hit home a bit more. Still, outside of the darker tone I fail to see how we're getting anything a Firefly fan could dislike.
2  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Post your Ride! Car pics! [56k Warning] on: April 21, 2005, 08:53:00 PM
Yep, I love it (and my wife Tongue).
3  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Post your Ride! Car pics! [56k Warning] on: April 21, 2005, 08:32:16 PM
4  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / I was dyeing yo-yo strings this afternoon - and you? on: April 11, 2005, 01:58:58 AM
Hmm, woke up to a foot of snow so it's been a slow day. Set up the TiVo to tape a few movies, and basically played WoW all day (almost got my Onyxia key!). Made some margaritas a little while ago which were great and now I'm about to go watch one of the aforementioned TiVo'd movies with the wife (what do you guys think: Pulp Fiction, an Imax movie form the HD channel on volcanos, or Once Upon a Time in the West?).
5  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Horror Novel Recommendations on: April 11, 2005, 01:43:32 AM
I'm a sucker for the horror genre in whatever medium. I prefer the more psychological, subtle take over the gore/slasher/typical haunted house stuff. For instance, some of the stuff in 2001 with Gygory Ligeti's Requiem playing gets to me far more than anything like Halloween or Friday the 13th. While I've found a few movies and games that do that quite effectively (The Ring, System Shock 2, etc.), I've yet to find a book that does. The short stories of Thomas Ligotti have come the closest to really getting under my skin. And House of Leaves did a good job of creeping me out intermittently. Other than that though, nothing really has. I love reading and I know there's got to be some good scary stuff out there but outside of the above exceptions I've yet to find it. I've read several Steven King novels and while I've found them compelling mainstream stuff I've never really been scared by them.

Anyway, if anyone can recommend some good (possibly obscure) stuff that leans toward the psychological side of the scale (tho that's not required, if it's really scary generic horror stuff let me know) I'd love to hear some recommendations.
6  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Vanguard: Saga of Heroes on: April 02, 2005, 09:21:01 PM
Check out their website and look at who's on the dev team. This isn't just another Microsoft MMO.
7  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / What Im listening to right this moment on: January 31, 2005, 10:46:48 PM
8  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Need some TV recommendations on: January 10, 2005, 09:24:30 PM
Between work, a family, and WoW, time has become a valuable commodity and with that in mind, I think TV on DVD (or TiVo) is my favorite form of entertainment these days; short doses, flexibility, variety. I was hoping to get some recommendations for some good TV that I've missed out on over the last few years. I'll give you a rundown of the shows I love as well as shows I think might have been good but I only caught a few episodes.

Firefly - Love everything about this show. Can't wait for the movie. I'm a sucker for Sci-Fi but find most of it to be laughable. When a solid show like this comes along with good writing, acting, and an original premise I'm all over it. I'm a fan of Star Trek TOS and TNG as well, but besides Firefly, there's been nothing Sci-Fi that's caught my attention.

Alias - This one needs to be qualified because I loved the first season, liked the second season, was pretty pissed off by the third, and tepid so far on the fourth. Despite the overall decline, I love the characters (espeically Marshall, Jack, and Sloane), Obviously Jennifer's easy on the eyes, and I love the Rimbaldi stuff.

Sopranos - A couple years ago I figured I'd check into the hype and got the first two seasons on Netflix. I really enoyed them, then decided to take a break and I can't really explain why I never went back to it.

Lost - I'm totally enjoying this mainly because I find the characters interesting and the premise has enough Twilight Zone going on that I'm hooked.

Twlight Zone (the old one) - Probably my favorite show ever. I love good stories and I love the subtler more esoteric take on the paranormal (as opposed to blatant and IMO boring stuff like Ghost Hhunters, Medium, etc).

Nowhere Man - Does anyone else remember this? Like Firefly, I feel this show deserved way more acclaim, and I'd kill to see a DVD release but it's so under the radar I doubt that'll ever happen. Great premise, excellent writing, and I like Bruce Greenwood. Got wrapped up way too hasilty but I'm still kicking myself for not taping every episode cuz I'd be all over it today if I had it.

Carnivale - I saw the first half of the first season and loved it. Then we moved and in an effort to save money and time, we didn't get cable so I was left hanging. I've thought about getting the first season on DVD and trying to watch the second season live but like Lost, I'm not sure how well they'll deliver on their premise.

Anyway, there are a lot of shows I've missed out on over the years that I'm pretty sure would be up my alley. Unfortunately I've really only got time for one or two shows at a time. What shows would you recommend? What seasons?

Some shows in a similar vein I've never really watched and feel like I may be missing out on: Buffy & Angel, newer Star Treks (like Ds9), 24, X-Files, etc.

Thanks in advance. smile
9  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What's the truly scariest pc gaming experience you've had? on: November 18, 2004, 03:12:06 PM
All of SShock 2
Return to the Cathedral - Thief 1
Shalebridge Cradle - Thief 3
Ravenholm - HL2
Special mention for certain parts of Undying
10  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 11:18:00 PM
Farley, are you installing Counterstrike too?
11  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half-Life 2 Impressions (Possible Spoilers) on: November 16, 2004, 10:16:58 PM
Quote from: "lildrgn"
Quote from: "Caine"
i love that the game has widescreen settings.  looks awesome on this laptop and plays great.  i haven't been able to get very far in this as sleep grabbed me early last night after the unlock and work has me in it's claws now, but the game runs very smoothly and does not have any hitches in performance.  i hope to see it this well during heavy action sequences.  

glad that my laptop can handle the game as well as it does.  i was curious if the 9700 would be enough to cut it.

dell xps
3.4 p4 800fsb
1gb 3200 dual channel
mobile 9700 pro 128mb.  

also, how does steam handle multiple installs?  if i put this on my pc, can i run hl2 there as well?  obviosly not going to work any mp like cs this way, but if i want to use the bigger machine, will it let me have two instances of steam at the same time?

I would think multiple installs are a no-no. Uninstall from first cpu, reinstall to second, no problem. But at the same time? Expect a call from Gabe himself.

Multiple installs are fine; here's the line direct from Steam's website:

Yes, you can use your Steam account on as many different computers as you like - but only one at a time!

For example, you could use your account on your work computer during the day, and on your home computer at night.  On the weekend, you could even use it at a friend's house. Steam will automatically download all of your games to whatever computer you are currently logged in on, and your Friends list will be automatically duplicated on that machine.

If you have multiple Steam accounts on one computer, they will all share the core set of downloaded games, but each user's game configurations and any custom content will have to be copied or transferred.

You just can't use a single Steam account on two or more computers simultaneously.
12  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half-Life 2 Impressions (Possible Spoilers) on: November 16, 2004, 10:14:53 PM
Alright, tried the install again with CSS included and it worked fine. If anyone's getting that cab error on the 4th disc and you weren't installing CSS, give that a try. Now if freakin Steam would work.  :evil:
13  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half-Life 2 Impressions (Possible Spoilers) on: November 16, 2004, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: "whiteboyskim"
Was it looking for a specific .cab file and if so which one?

"Cannot find hl2.ico1 in" or something worded like that. I found something in Sierra's tech support that indiciates this happens when you try to install w/out CS Source, which I was doing (lack of HD space). Says you have to install both then go back and remove CSS through Steam. Trying to clear enough room now and will report back...
14  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half-Life 2 Impressions (Possible Spoilers) on: November 16, 2004, 09:28:14 PM
Grr. Fourth disc is crapping out on me too. Tried it on my older (crappier) computer and it works so I'm not sure it's the disc. I've tried it three times on the one I want to install it on and every time get the error on disc 4. Is this some kind of known error...?
15  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / National Treasure on: November 12, 2004, 02:44:47 PM
Then again you can usually tell by the director, and the same guy that directed The Mummy is doing National Treasure so prepare yourself accordingly.

I don't know where you guys are getting all this mummy talk. The director of National Treasure is [url]Jon Turteltaub[/url] of Disney's The Kid fame. Not Stephem Sommers, the Mummy and Van Helsing hack. Far superior pedigree. Tongue
16  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / World of Warcraft -- SERVER ROLL CALL on: November 04, 2004, 05:57:06 AM
Animus lvl 13 Undead Warlock (with my brother, Absentia 13 Mage)
Test 12 PvP MST
Varoius times throughout the day and evening
17  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Wanted: Spooky Music on: October 29, 2004, 08:10:37 PM
If you've got Everquest installed or your old EQ disks, the .mp3s for a lot of the dungeons and planes are abolutely perfect. I went on a hunt for the same thing a year or so ago and after a couple weeks of googling, soulseeking, and asking arround they were the best I found. Additionally, a lot of instrumental tracks in gothic metal, black metal, or industrial, can serve well (think early Skinny Puppy). Also, look for pretty much any classical pieces that have "Requiem" in the title; the best being Gyorgy Ligeti's Requiem from the 2001 soundtrack (the monolith music).

Hope that helps.
18  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / New EQ2 Beta Keys at FilePlanet on: October 22, 2004, 11:05:08 PM
Got mine. Hurry.
19  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / What's the last thing you've copied and pasted? on: October 21, 2004, 12:39:08 AM
20  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / EQ 2 Beta - am I being paranoid? on: October 19, 2004, 02:15:26 PM
I don't think we're talking about voiceovers when you engage an NPC in conversation. In nearly every beta post or journal I've read they say it's the random ones that test the nerves. Stuff like 'if I hear "Qeynos is a shining beacon of light!' or 'Come and browse the finest wares in Qeynos!" again I'm throwing my computer out the window.' Apparently even if they're voiced by different actors, there's about 4 lines that are endlessly repeated verbatim as you travel through the towns. I've even seen videos that confirm this (as well as a worrisome lack of diminishing volume even as you turn three corners and get 200 ft. away from the offending NPC. Now obviously this could change, or may already have but I assume that's the annoying part.
21  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / EQ 2 Beta - am I being paranoid? on: October 19, 2004, 04:04:10 AM
Man, up until WoW and EQ2 I've always had the best luck with betas. Now I'm suprised I even could get in the WoW stress test.  :?
22  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Riddick on PC looks purty on: October 19, 2004, 01:07:25 AM
That's an appropriate price. It's a great game but barely 5 or 6 hours worth. Of course, plenty of other games have got away with slappin' a $50 tag on something that like (i.e. Max Payne 2).
23  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Rate X-Men Legends for single player on: October 18, 2004, 10:50:40 PM
The babysitting really gets on my nerves. It's hard to buy into fighting alongside your favorite heroes when they're dropping like flies the second you stop paying attn. to them. As was said though, add a friend and it's a blast.
24  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Any reviews, yet, of HL2? on: October 18, 2004, 10:48:58 PM
I never really had any doubt the game would be great. Unfortunately, the delays and the soap opera have redered me numb to excitement. I don't think I'll get excited till I'm actually playing the damn game.
25  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Some very interesting WoW and EQ2 reads on: October 18, 2004, 06:40:44 PM
Here's an addition to the above post about EQ2 that's fairly interesting:

Nektropos Castle

I believe this will change, but here's an interesting issue that I'm facing in EQ2 at the moment that I dislike. Nektropos Castle is an instanced zone with a reentry timer. 8 hours on failure, 6 days on success. There's a quest update for the Fishbone Earring quest that you get by killing the end boss, Lord Everling, of the zone. To get to him, you need to do a few quests and gain access to the basement. Some of this is saved as quest info, and some of it is done every time you enter the zone. One part that is done every time is you read a particular book on a stand, and this spawns a Guard Captain. When he dies, you take his sword, and put it in a holder to open a bookcase to reveal the secret staircase down to the basement. The problem is with the level of this guard captain. If anyone in the party is level 37 or higher, he goes grey (trivial) and no longer drops any loot (his sword, the key to the basement).

I'm currently level 36.8, and have been trying to get this update for 2 weeks, in particular over this weekend. Both Saturday and Sunday, I got groups together that could handle it no problem, and went in, but both times, the zone crashed, locking us out for another 8 hours.
26  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Some very interesting WoW and EQ2 reads on: October 18, 2004, 05:32:26 PM
While I started this thread with the specific intention of temporarily abating the arguing, I have to say I agree.  Tongue

I love the idea of a lot of the old world being there. I absolutely hate the idea of everyone starting in one of the two cities, then advancing in a very linear fashion throughout the gameworld. The best part of EQ for me was the world, and it's something that hasn't been matched since. There were zones for your level scattered throughout the world and of course things like the famed trip from Qeynos to Freeport by way of Highpass is the stuff of great memories. Giving me a linear path with bottlenecks sucks.

Granted, WoW advances you in a fairly linear fasion as well but at least you can make different characters and see different places through the early levels. That's most of the fun of making alts, and something I've done extensively in other MMOG's. If I get my bard to 50 in EQ and want to make a good-race alt, am I really going to want to start in Qeynos again and do the exact same things for hundreds of hours (minus the class-specific stuff of course)? I think Freeport, Qeynos, the Commonlands, and Antonica are going to start looking really old after a while.

EDIT: I know there are a lot in favor of instant travel (I've heard plenty of complaints even on the Wanderers boards about the griffon rides, which blows my mind) but I have to say it also drives me nuts that the boat travel is instant. PoP books pissed me off a lot too but it made some sense considering most of us had travelled the world back and forth countless times. But the whole fishing on the docks while waiting for the boat, getting drunk while on board and falling into the water thing is another set of fond memories that SOE apparently think will just bother people. Bleh.
27  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Some very interesting WoW and EQ2 reads on: October 18, 2004, 05:02:37 PM
Yea, on low settings it looks pretty terrible, lots of awful textures like this.

It also can look pretty damn good, like this. I still like WoW's style better, and I still abhor the models, but I can definitely see the appeal of EQ2's engine.
28  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Some very interesting WoW and EQ2 reads on: October 18, 2004, 04:52:56 PM
Figured we could take a break from debating the merits of each game and do with some interesting info.

First of all, I've been hearing all these horror stories about Scholomance being impossible. Well this guy has a nice (albeit, unfinished) account of his trek with a 5-man group through the instance that I thought was extremely detailed and well done. Should get anyone's mouth watering over some of the tactics involved in the higher-level instances.

Check it out here.

Secondly, up until recently, I wasn't aware of exactly how much of the old-world EQ is in EQ2. I'm a sucker for nostalgia and I must admit the idea of seeing zones like Everfrost, Zek, Deathfist, etc. makes me want to check the game out in spite of my reservations.

It's buried in a 12 pg. thread so I'm just going to repost this from the FOH boards:

There's been a few questions about EQ2 geography that haven't been answered. I've been playing good characters, so my details on the evil part of the world are a bit more sketchy. Here's an attempt to do so, along with a picture.

This is the world map (and a picture of one of my favorite halflings to kill *grins*). As you'll notice, Norrath is now made up of lots of islands. After the Isle of Refuge, you start off in Qeynos if you're good, or Freeport if you're evil. Well, not actually in them, but in their outskirt villages, you gain access to the actual cities when you complete your citizenship quest.

Each town has a few adventure areas off it as well, and each town has a 3 zone sewer area (ideal for 5-10, 15-20, and 25-30). For Qeynos, it's The Down Below, Vermin's Snye, and Crypt of Betrayal.

The main wilderness zone off of Qeynos is Antonica, off of Freeport is The Commonlands. Each of these has three adventure zones off it, for Antonica this is Blackburrow, Stormhold, and Fyremist Gully. For Commonlands, (I think?) it is (wailing?) caves, Fallen Gate, and Bloodskull Valley. The last one on each (Fyremist and Bloodskull) are instanced event zones, with reuse timers so that you can only enter occasionally. Stormhold is "the dungeon formerly known as Befallen".

One note to make, there are lots of instanced sub-zones off of main zones. Most zones have one, for example, the Tomb of Valor is off of Stormhold.

The next tier of wilderness zones (20-30) are The Thundering Steppes off of Antonica, and Nektulos forest, off of The Commonlands. These also have their little instanced zones to get into, Cauldron Hollow for Nek Forest, and something Cove, for Thundering Steppes. Also off of Nek Forest is Nektulos Castle, a neat instanced zone that I'll mention an annoyance about later.

Thundering Steppes and Nektulos forest connect to each other by a "boat". This is acutally just a bell that you click to use and travel to the other zone.

Next, there's the Enchanted Lands. (Formerly known as Misty Thicket) There's a quest you do in Nek Forest which gives you access to a real boat, and if you complete the encounters there, you can now use a bell to move freely back and forth between Nek forest and the Enchanted Lands. Rivervale, and Drafling Tower are off of EL. (27th to do the quest, I believe)

There's also Zek, the Orcish Wastes. (Formerly know as Proudpine, (I think)). There's a quest you do starting in Thundering Steppes that also gives you access to a real boat, and if you win, you have free travel via bell from TS to Zek. Deathfist Citadel is off of Zek. (25th to do the quest, I think)

Next up, there's The Feerrott. Good and Evil characters each have different quests to go there, starting in their home towns, leading to TS for another boat to it. Win the boat, and you have access. The Obelisk of Lost Souls, and Cazic Thule are off it. (37th to do the quest).

There's also Everfrost and Lavastorm. I don't know of anyone who has finished these two quests yet. Everfrost begins in Zek, and requires access to Drafling, which people have just recently gotten in to. Not sure of the status of the Lavastorm quest.

Hope this answers some questions.

Jerrith Healerson
65th level Cleric
Guardians of Veeshan

Hopefully fans of both or either games enjoyed this. This is the kind of stuff I like to see when NDA's are dropped.
29  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / EverQuest 2 NDA Lifted on: October 16, 2004, 06:14:25 AM
Quote from: "Raven"
Early comments do not look promising.

Hmm, yea. Not good at all. That kinda bums me out. As a side note and not to sound bitchy, but when are we going to start using Road to Gold for unreleased games? That forum's nearly dead for no reason. EQ2 and WoW should give us plenty to talk about, people just keep doing it in PGBT.
30  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Excellent EQ2 Preview on: October 15, 2004, 03:24:46 PM
As the topic says, this is the best preview I've read yet. Very obective and not hesitant to point out problems.
31  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Best Game Of All Time Tournament - CG Edition on: October 12, 2004, 08:24:16 PM
1.) Thief: The Dark Project
2.) Unreal Tournament
3.) System Shock 2
4.) Half Life
5.) Everquest
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