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121  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: June 08, 2013, 04:05:56 PM

Quote from: msduncan on June 08, 2013, 03:09:08 AM

While the comments are still there Reddit has removed the Misty Silver post that started it.
122  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect(EDGE) on: May 22, 2013, 01:45:27 AM
I am really looking forward to hearing the spin that Larry spews forth on his podcast.

The whole confusion on what you can and cannot do has to be the most amazing gift Sony could have gotten.
123  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Soon we'll be taxed on internet purchases on: May 12, 2013, 04:50:22 PM
Because it was earth all along.
124  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: At the end of this I could very well go insane on: May 12, 2013, 04:42:39 PM
There have been numerous parodies.
Mad Men
Star Wars
Looney Toons

There are a few more listed here.
125  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: At the end of this I could very well go insane on: May 07, 2013, 06:25:26 PM

Quote from: Misguided on May 04, 2013, 03:18:03 PM

The idea that you'd use Batman:TAS in the same context just demonstrates how different our viewpoints are. But hey, if you are enjoying it, rock on! I'm not criticizing, nor would I, just strikes me as really out there.
I just used Batman as an example as it was the first thing that popped into my head that was sort of close to the age demographic of MLP, that I could also remember running home to watch. It's also something I figured a lot of the users here would remember. No other reason beyond that. In terms of quality, when you had the president of the initial animation company draw in the frost for Mr Freeze's helmet vs flash it just doesn't compare.

I suppose the discussions in this thread took me by surprise. One part because usually my topics die pretty much right away and the second because I also do not understand the objection, no that's not the right word, bafflement maybe. Hence my bringing Batman into this. I don't know if MLP is supposed to be taboo because of age/sex/or something else. Was it because I started to analyze it? I'm at a loss here.

The creators did know that some parents would watch this and threw them eggs so it wasn't all for their kids. Why else would you get a glimpse of the Dude or John de Lancie essentially reprising Q. By their own admission it was all the other adults that caught them by surprise. In making sure I spelled John's named right I discovered he helped create a documentary about the whole adult fan thing.
126  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: At the end of this I could very well go insane on: May 04, 2013, 02:41:33 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on May 03, 2013, 02:00:04 PM

Ah, so you have, in fact, gone insane.
Clearly. Though I do have to say, and yes this is probably me digging an even bigger hole, I sometimes do enjoy watching programs for a younger demographic, Franklin and Blue's Clue's as an example (I still have the planets song memorized). It's nice to just enjoy something that wears it's heart on it's sleeve. Not having to worry about deeper context. The popcorn movie, if you will, but if it had a lesson to teach.

I would ask this, what would you think of an adult that just now is watching Batman The Animated Series. I think many would consider it a classic and for myself that is the Batman that I put above all others. Conroy and Hamill are Batman and the Joker for me. Is it only okay to watch something, that is no longer in part of your demographic, but only if you watched when it was? Or does the exclusion happen because you're the wrong sex that the show is catering to. Was I not supposed to like Babar as a child because it was French? I know I'm really stretching this but the questions can still be raised.

Moving on.

I really got into the plot holes for MLP because it was one time that I really thought about it. Normally I just accept whatever the explanation is. I'll bring in another MST3K reference as an example. The hands of two characters are stuck to metal bars. The reasoning that was given was because the bars were magnetized. It took Crow, I believe, to bring up the stupidity of this for me to go oh yeah that is silly. Otherwise I simply wouldn't have given it a thought. Really it boils down to being nothing more than a thought experiment to see how many I could come up with (And there were others). I would add that I have a fear that the Rarity character and maybe a few lessons fall into the Eric the Barbarian character from Dungeons & Dragons catagory. That being they are there not because the writers want them but because outside forces do.

Quote from: Lordnine on May 03, 2013, 08:04:39 PM

Quote from: Andrew Wonser on May 03, 2013, 04:36:21 AM

My problem with the show besides being so random is the over-arching story (Which I was surprised there even was one) is given to you piecemeal.
First, Finn doesn’t matter much at all; he’s basically just a means to an ends to tell the more interesting story.  

Everything starts in the modern day or shortly thereafter.  A man named Simon finds a magic crown.  Not long after, World War III breaks out and nuclear and mutagenic bombs wipe out the majority of the world.  Simon survives and finds a young girl in the wreckage.  His crown gives him the power to protect her but it has a price.  Every time he puts on the crown and uses its power he loses a bit of his memories.  Finally he starts to go insane.  Knowing he soon won’t remember who he is or even the girl he is trying to protect, he uses his magic to create a kingdom where she will be protected.  His last act as Simon is to create the Candy Kingdom and once it is done he becomes the Ice King.

The girl was Marceline, who is the vampire in the current timeframe, which is roughly 1,000 years after the war.

I did, briefly, see the scene where she remembers part of her past and the one where Fin & Jake are real. Believe me if there was more of that I would enjoy it more. But to reference Case Closed again the actual plot of the show takes a far far back seat to the weekly adventures.

I do wonder why then Marceline does have a person she views as a father. Is it a reflex of a young persons psyche to protect that person from the truth. Maybe Fin & Jake are real in that they were soldiers (dying?) and Simon gave them a chance to live but only if they promised to protect the kingdom from both the evils within and himself. Maybe in agreeing to do so they were given the chance to wear the crown and wish for an ability (Or first thing that came to mind) with the price being they would forget who Marceline was. The powers being Jake's stretchiness and Fin's spit.

[I hope you guys are getting affiliated for those Batman links because I sure didn't put them in there]
127  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: At the end of this I could very well go insane on: May 03, 2013, 04:36:21 AM
So I ended up watching three seasons of My Little Pony and two of Adventure Time. I would say that my initial leaning towards liking MLP more that AT held throughout. Of course both series had episodes that I didn't care for and AT had episodes that I liked. Have some random thoughts for each. Also I will quote a line from MST3K to preface this whole thing "If you're wondering how he eats and breathes / And other science facts / Then repeat to yourself 'It's just a show, / I should really just relax."

My Little Pony

  • Rarity is actually quite selfish and self-centered which is odd since her element is supposed to be generosity. Time and time again the lesson that she supposedly learns is to take the feelings of others in to account or appreciate what you have.
  • Why do they need to make it rain, other than to refill/filtrate what they use on a personal basis, if plants do not grow where they live (Exception being the forest)?
  • Slavery exists in this world. Cows and sheep can talk (I'm going to disregard dogs as it might be an evolution thing) but both are kept in enclosures and used for their respective goods.
  • Fluttershy despite being presented as the guardian of the animals must know that in order to have a lot of the sweets that are sold in the cake shop they need eggs. Which they probably get from her chicken coup.
  • The old are cast out or killed Carrousel style. There is one elderly and three middle aged characters that I can think of. We also see only two sets of parents.
  • The meaning of a cutie mark is not consistent. Most are based on talents or passions which is what they are portrayed as supposed to be but then there are others that based on personality or physical characteristics. How would a character know which way to go to get a mark? Do you wake up one morning and say hey I like to be an ass and get a /b/ mark?
  • Bigotry exists in the form of ponies vs donkeys/mules. With the later looked down upon as ugly or un-talented.
  • How can non-unicorn ponies write or do anything really?
  • Pinkie Pie is mentally handicapped, possibly also possessed.
  • Bronie is still a stupid designation.

Adventure Time

No bullet-points this time. It really feels like the show could be seen a few different ways. My personal opinion is that Fin is downright crazy and this is all happening in his mind. With several real world people being represented as other beings. He possibly murdered whomever Princess Bubblegum is supposed to be (Love obsession maybe). My problem with the show besides being so random is the over-arching story (Which I was surprised there even was one) is given to you piecemeal. Not as bad as say Dragonball Z but closer to a Case Closed or How I Met Your Mother. Also maybe I'm forgetting something but there doesn't appear to be any rules to the world. The only constants are Princess Bubblegum and the Ice King. Everyone else can do whatever the situation calls for. I wouldn't be surprised that as some point Jake can fly. Nothing else really besides I may watch a random episode but it's definitely not a must see for me like say Avatar The Last Airbender was.

Real brief I will say that I've re-watched the first two seasons of Gargoyles but hit a wall with the third. The focus from adventures to an enemy that is able to harm the protagonists from their position (See Senator Kinsey from SG-1) hampers my enjoyment a bit and I'm not a bit fan of racism in stories.
128  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [odd news] Priorities...we all have them. on: May 03, 2013, 01:52:34 AM
I really wish he had said all those things in the story.
129  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: April 25, 2013, 01:24:05 AM

Quote from: kratz on April 24, 2013, 06:47:49 PM

I was going to make a quip about it having an anal bead, but thought better of it.
130  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Crowd funding to save Homeworld on: April 23, 2013, 12:40:02 AM
Wish I could agree with that. Looking at their list of games the only one I think I liked was Brothers in Arms. My guess is they grabbed Homeworld to just re-release it and make a little profit.
131  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Administration moves $500M in Palestinian aid as agencies scramble to delay cuts on: April 01, 2013, 12:57:04 AM
It involves meat and potatoes, right?
132  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Robertson: ‘Demonic Spirits’ May Lurk In Your Newly-Purchased Clothing on: March 26, 2013, 05:57:19 PM
We have people already dealing with that.
Spoiler for Hiden:
133  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors begin. on: March 24, 2013, 04:49:20 PM
Since this is coming from Randy I'm guessing that in the end we'll find out the PS4 is not really a console but a piece of toast.
134  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Edgar Wright's Ant-Man movie test footage finally revealed! on: March 23, 2013, 02:55:47 AM
It's too bad Disney doesn't like you getting excited for one of their movies. It's been yanked from everywhere.
135  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Robertson: ‘Demonic Spirits’ May Lurk In Your Newly-Purchased Clothing on: March 23, 2013, 01:28:15 AM
I'm not surprised this is coming from Pat Robertson. The man probably thinks ghosts are communicating to him through his cheerios.
136  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's Find Kato Something To Do! on: February 22, 2013, 01:38:53 AM
There's always scrapbooking.
137  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PC/PS3/WiiU]Aliens Colonial Marines on: February 22, 2013, 01:25:22 AM
Review sent from Tom's iPhone using Tapatalk
138  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [?] Buying an iPad Soon[ on: February 17, 2013, 05:19:28 PM
Have nothing to add other than Dante Rising has essentially a brand new 64GB one for sale.
139  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3/Vita] Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time on: February 17, 2013, 12:16:39 AM
For those that have played the previous games which would you say this one most resembles?
140  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / At the end of this I could very well go insane on: January 27, 2013, 12:08:07 AM
I'm currently devoting some of each day to get through the first seasons of both Adventure Time and My Little Pony in the hopes of understanding what is supposed to be so great about either.
Thankfully I'm also watching Gargoyles to keep me grounded.

 My current assessment after about six episodes of each, is that My Little Pony is winning. Insofar as it at least teaches a lesson, albeit that lesson is interlaced with a full package of pixie stix.
Adventure Time though I just don't get. With the exception of the second appearance of Marceline I really haven't liked an episode. If I could compare it's feel to another show I would say Ren & Stimpy. The problem was that I didn't like that one either for the same reason that both are so random.

I'm still sticking with each till the end and maybe into a second season where most shows really find their voice (Or in Star Trek TNG it took till Riker's beard). I am left wondering why My Little Pony has a loyal male fan base. I'm not saying they can't like it I just don't see where the appeal becomes so large that they are acknowledged by everyone as deserving a stupid name.
141  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Jail-breaking your subsidized phone is now illegal on: January 25, 2013, 08:24:25 PM
Just a little clarification. Jailbreaking your phone is still legal, unlocking it is not.
142  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NRA Blames Video Games For School Shootings on: December 24, 2012, 09:50:20 PM
BBC is saying that two firefighters are dead and another two are injured. Gunman appears to have shot himself. He has a sister that is unaccounted for and feared to have been in the fire. No mention of anyone else being injured or killed in the fire.
They also state that there were two officers killed on Monday, one inTexas and the other in Wisconsin, while on patrol.
143  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Lord of the Rings Online: Riders of Rohan on: December 11, 2012, 11:23:15 PM
Hmm I certainly don't remember there being an automatic looting of the corpse after defeat. The only option I remember there being that you could turn on was a take all items when right clicked.
144  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Paragon Studios shutting down immediately, CoX closing doors before end of year on: December 03, 2012, 03:30:26 AM
The only time I ever heard that CoH/V was not making money were from commentors on the various stories about the announced shutdown. The problem with that was that they just didn't care about the game or genre so it was easier to dismiss it out of hand.
Just to be clear the players, who were constant, were not operating under some delusion that the game was making huge amounts of money but that it was making a net profit.

As far as NCSoft is concerned yes they are a company, yes their goal is to make money but they have also consistently shown that rather than trying to work things out with a game it easier for them to just kill it. Why would a developer let alone a player want to support that? If a game is only as good as it's community why would they want to flock to something knowing that the sword of damocles is there not ready to drop when it's time has come but whenever it feels like it.

I do and don't agree that these types of games are not special. I agree that from a distance they all have the same basic mechanics of the carrot on a longer stick than that of their single player contemporaries. Where I don't agree is that what only makes them special is the community. Personally I play these games for the most part solo so what interests me is the story and the world. I can tell you I felt a sense of wonder first entering the snow covered Frostbluff or seeing Golden Giza at night. Heck when I came back to Eve after a long hiatus just the nav voice was enough to send waves of nostalgia up my spine. Even something as simple as the landing animation after flying in DCUO or the fact that I would always try to jump off something before changing form as druid in WoW would bring pleasure to me. The community never had anything to do with that. They were all simple and complex things that set each one apart. That's not to say a community doesn't have a place in the world as some players will stay or leave because of it. It's just for me a great community is icing on that already delicious confection and CoH/V managed to deliver that icing.

As an aside it does bother me when a company decides to shutter an IP and would rather let it rot than see someone else make something of it. I still remember when Nickelodeon let the copyright run out for Doug not seeing any use in keeping it and Disney not only picked it up but made it popular again. Nickelodeon vowed to never let that happen again. Not that we won't be so quick to kill something that has more life in it but rather keep your filthy hands off our stuff.

I do hope that in the future publishers figure out a better way to handle the closure of MMOs. Even if it's just retooling and reselling them as a single player or player run server product. I can tell you I would gladly pay 50-60 dollars again just to be able to go back into those worlds that have ceased to be supported. It's also one of my fears about all digital (With no backup capability) and cloud based gaming. There's no possibility for curation. We could go back and look at archived media but without being able to actually touch those worlds and the mechanics contained within you cannot really grasp what makes them so special or even what to improve or avoid in the future.

For the City of Villains/Heroes players there have been choices to be made beyond how can we try to resurrect our recently closed world or create one ourselves. In the immediate some have moved to other worlds, some will continue with Guild Wars 2, some will avoid all things NCSoft and some have abandoned the genre altogether. No choices are wrong as each are their own to make. Personally I will avoid NCSoft as I continue to do with Activision and any game that utilizes an always on component when it doesn't need one. Am I being a bit naive in hoping that my actions will somehow effect those companies to change in the way that I desire? Probably. But until I have the money to control a majority share in those companies, my wallet is the only voice I have.
145  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / City Sunset on: December 02, 2012, 01:12:00 AM
I think a lot of people could have. Which is what made the closure so baffling. No one, including NCSoft itself, indicated that CoH/V was not making enough money to pay its way. Hell one of the employees from Paragon was planning on presenting a proposal to buy it from them next year. The last and really only communication NCSoft made was a basic f'you we're taking our ball home. I believe at least three attempts had been made to purchase the IP from them and two were not even heard. Which makes one of their statements, "We've exhausted all options including the selling of the studio and the rights to the City of Heroes intellectual property, but in the end, efforts to do so were not successful." quite disingenuous. The price floating around that they wanted was 80 million which is frankly absurd. I think they just wanted to get out of the western market, Guild Wars not withstanding. They sunk a lot of money into GW2 and their upcoming Blade & Soul and needed to trim quickly. They may also want to shore up more resources for Aeon and Lineage II which I don't believe are performing as hoped. I could also be vindictive and point out that their stock has dropped a fair amount (From their high of 286500 on Sept 7 to 161500 Nov 30).

In the end NCSoft is well establishing itself as a place for MMO developers to stay far away from. They have proven time and again that they will not work with the community and developers to keep a franchise going even if it means staff cuts or putting it into maintenance mode like Sony has done in the past. There's probably a lot more that can be brought up, and maybe someone that was more immersed in the community can chime in.

What was incredible was the response both in game and out that happened after the initial announcement. Virtue at one point I believe had 40 instances of Atlas Park. With numerous marches and and constant sit ins. Last night with the exception of the European servers every one was yellow with Virtue being red. I personally had to wait twice in a queue of 1500 ( I want to say 2500 but rather err on the lower amount) and 900 respectively. Near the end people decided to go to another server since Virtue was having problems and that server (Triumph I believe) went red.
Capes were sent to NCSoft ala what the fans of Veronica Mars did with mars bars. Numerous letters sent and efforts to engage any media outlet were made.
Stories were shared, not just about adventures in the game but because of it. We heard of people being able to find solace from their abuse and sickness. Of parents and their kids being able to connect with something. Just last night while listening to The Cape the DJ talked about a story she received of a daughter who improved her reading skills immensely (I want to say from a 4 year old to an Cool because of the game.

I have never seen this kind of response from the players when previous games have shut down. The players that have and continue to play those games, while imploring the publisher to keep it going, usually in the end accept that it wasn't performing well enough as servers were consolidated and staff was shed. We had none of that for Heroes.

I'm already going much too long but will say that right now the community is making an effort to get Disney to purchase City. I would recommend visiting here and then here for more information.
146  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Paragon Studios shutting down immediately, CoX closing doors before end of year on: December 01, 2012, 08:22:52 AM
The last screenshot I was able to get before the shutdown.
147  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Benghazi Gate on: November 16, 2012, 11:45:35 PM

Quote from: ATB on November 16, 2012, 10:51:32 PM

Quote from: hepcat on November 16, 2012, 07:59:35 PM

The middle one.

Ha haaa! what if there are two middle ones?

Say: cats, dogs, mice, horses.

Now what!?
We can only hope it doesn't come to that.
148  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: 12 Million New Jobs in the Next 4 Years on: October 27, 2012, 04:57:57 PM
Planet Money said something similar when they did a piece about Scott Walker (They talked to him before the union thing) when he made job promises campaigning for Governor. The people running for the office promised x jobs which was in line with what the state was expected to bring in anyway.

For reference the program was called "How many jobs has Scott Walker created?". Show number was 277.
149  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Win 8 available tomorrow on: October 26, 2012, 02:28:02 AM
It doesn't help that Microsoft still hasn't released the sdk.
150  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Donald Trump says he will release 'very big news' about Obama this week on: October 24, 2012, 06:04:46 PM
So he would be happy to write a check, that goes to a charity, for information that the majority of American people don't care about.
Here's an idea how about you just happily write that check and the American people can get back to ignoring you.
151  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Dilemma with new phone on: October 15, 2012, 11:55:23 PM
I can't comment on which is better but the one thing I would suggest is to make a list of the apps that you must have and see if they are also on Android.

You might want to also list the things you don't like about the iPhone and maybe someone else here can comment on those points.
152  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: The 2012 Presidential Debates Thread: Get Free Halo Armor! Second debate 10-11 on: October 13, 2012, 09:45:26 PM
Not exactly thrilled that the President sign into law the ability to indefinitely detain Americans without trial.
153  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: The 2012 Presidential Debates Thread: Get Free Halo Armor! Second debate 10-11 on: October 07, 2012, 04:10:23 PM
Clearly this is a case for
Spoiler for Hiden:
154  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bioware News: Zeschuk and Muzyka retire on: September 29, 2012, 06:34:28 PM
I'm quoting from terrible memory here but there was a question posited about why do people (It may have been Whedon specifically) continually make shows for FOX when there is an extremely good chance it will be canceled early. The answer essentially was they need to make a paycheck like everyone else and a lot of the time FOX is willing to try new things.

Having said that in a dream world I wish that publishers and developers were separate. The developer owns the IP and the only involvement that a publisher has is the initial loan, distribution, and promotion and at most first refusal rights. And even then a developer could decide to take on one or both of those tasks themselves. It's heartbreaking to see a developer being shut down because their latest game didn't quite reach the sales of a previous one or that they didn't meet expectations or that the publisher just didn't want anything to do with that world regardless of its sales (see NCSoft).

There is an offshoot of what I want, happening now with the crowd funded development. But there are perils in that as well. We all know that a high profile take the money and run will happen. One thing I also think will happen is a burnout from the newness of it all and just like now people are going to realize that if I don't have time to play all those games why should I be spending money like I do.
155  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [CBS]Elementary on: September 29, 2012, 03:11:26 AM
Caught the tail end of NPR interviewing Lucy Liu, about the show. The creator has stated that there will not be a romance but rather a bromance between the two characters.
Having said that this is an American tv show and what the audience wants they usually get. Course maybe they could introduce a love interest for Moriarty whom Holmes is also interested in. Perhaps a tragic death is what causes the two to become enemies.
156  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Did Blowing Into NES Cartridges Help? on: September 26, 2012, 04:05:36 PM
It didn't really happen that often for me. Whether it was because I was pretty good about putting the cartridge back in the sleeve or just random luck. The times that the cartridge didn't work I would blow on it though I remember using less breath and more air (Lips being in a whistle shape versus having your cheeks puff out). It is encouraging to see I was doing what was suggested in the article. When I couldn't get it to work the first time I would use isopropyl alcohol.
157  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fundraising in Israel with Romney on: July 13, 2012, 05:39:18 PM
They were talking about this on NPR. There are apparently voters living in Israel and the Jewish population, in general, votes more republican versus here. The GOP knows they cannot win the American Jewish vote but they're hoping to grab a few percentage points away from the democrats.
As far as funding goes afaic Citizens United pretty much killed any rules we had.
158  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: LTTP: Mass Effect (1) on: April 17, 2012, 02:45:38 AM
Don't buy every license. Your shop on the ship randomly picks, from the ones you have, to sell to you. So you have less of a chance to get what you want with a larger catalog being pulled from.
Recommend Kassa Fabrication, Geth Armory and Serrice Council. Pinnacle Station also rewards you with good weapons but honestly if you don't want to go through the grind I believe the Spectre ones are better.
159  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Campaign ad appears to link Obama with Ahmadinejad on: March 27, 2012, 01:40:43 AM
160  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: March 23, 2012, 05:31:25 AM

Quote from: PR_GMR on March 22, 2012, 07:56:17 PM

Ceekay's room. Link.
My first thought was marshmallow ponies. Do they have that?
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