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561  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 has a draconian limited activation DRM? on: October 31, 2008, 04:33:13 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 30, 2008, 06:43:46 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 30, 2008, 06:22:08 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on October 30, 2008, 06:12:29 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 30, 2008, 03:57:05 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on October 30, 2008, 02:35:29 PM

Obviously people care or we won't have this thread or other sites where people accused Bethesda for lying.

As for not expecting Bethesda to know the rumor that was spread by fans? Just try this, google "Fallout 3 DRM" today. Check the result on the first several pages, more than one hit is from article that claim that Fallout 3 has no DRM. Or go to amazon site and read about what people post about Fallout 3 before release.





It has a CD Check.  Whether you consider that DRM or not, I don't know but Bethesda was up front about it. 

Should that CD check check whether I have emulation software? Is that part of checking for the disk?

Ale




AFAIK, CD Checks that detect Alcohol and Daemon Tools have been pretty standard for many years now so I would assume the answer is yes. 
Lesse... if I were going to hire a security guard service for a wedding, am I going to hire:

A) A nazi SS guard so anal he does full body cavity checks on every guest and all the members of the party
B) Barney Fife
C) John McClane (Die Hard) who knows who the bad guys are and acts when he needs to but not before.

Yeah. People are upset that it's not Don Knots asleep in the corner; apparently Bethsoft is interested in letting people enjoy their product whilst deterring casual piracy.

If you hire a guard at a wedding to make sure no one crashes it, and he ends up doing cavity searches, you definitely hired the wrong guard and the guests sure aren't going to dig it.

Ale
562  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 has a draconian limited activation DRM? on: October 31, 2008, 04:30:42 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 30, 2008, 06:22:08 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on October 30, 2008, 06:12:29 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 30, 2008, 03:57:05 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on October 30, 2008, 02:35:29 PM

Obviously people care or we won't have this thread or other sites where people accused Bethesda for lying.

As for not expecting Bethesda to know the rumor that was spread by fans? Just try this, google "Fallout 3 DRM" today. Check the result on the first several pages, more than one hit is from article that claim that Fallout 3 has no DRM. Or go to amazon site and read about what people post about Fallout 3 before release.





It has a CD Check.  Whether you consider that DRM or not, I don't know but Bethesda was up front about it. 

Should that CD check check whether I have emulation software? Is that part of checking for the disk?

Ale




AFAIK, CD Checks that detect Alcohol and Daemon Tools have been pretty standard for many years now so I would assume the answer is yes. 

Well, then that ceases to be just a disk check, doesn't it? And I have neither of those. And it has only happened once out of about 8 starts.
563  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 has a draconian limited activation DRM? on: October 30, 2008, 06:12:29 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 30, 2008, 03:57:05 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on October 30, 2008, 02:35:29 PM

Obviously people care or we won't have this thread or other sites where people accused Bethesda for lying.

As for not expecting Bethesda to know the rumor that was spread by fans? Just try this, google "Fallout 3 DRM" today. Check the result on the first several pages, more than one hit is from article that claim that Fallout 3 has no DRM. Or go to amazon site and read about what people post about Fallout 3 before release.



It has a CD Check.  Whether you consider that DRM or not, I don't know but Bethesda was up front about it. 

Should that CD check check whether I have emulation software? Is that part of checking for the disk?

Ale


564  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I Like Mustard! on: October 30, 2008, 12:48:49 AM

Quote from: TK-421 on October 29, 2008, 07:42:15 PM

I prefer eating beaver without mustard. 

Perhaps you prefer a little mayo?

Ale
565  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 has a draconian limited activation DRM? on: October 30, 2008, 12:44:58 AM
After starting the game 3 times, the second time gave me a Windows error, I got an error message the fourth time saying something about incompatibility with emulation software, and had a Securom link for more info. I just cancelled and restarted and it worked that time. Is this just part of the cd check?

Ale
566  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: What does "drinking the Kool Aid" mean? on: October 29, 2008, 03:52:37 PM

Quote from: cheeba on October 29, 2008, 03:22:58 PM

^Guess who's been called a kool-aid drinker before  icon_lol.
567  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Damn I knew I should have voted! on: October 28, 2008, 05:19:12 AM
That's awesome!  icon_biggrin

Ale
568  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama Ineligible to be President? on: October 26, 2008, 04:54:06 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 26, 2008, 04:26:34 AM

Well to be totally honest the judge didnt rule on the merits of the case one way or the other, just to say that Berg doesnt have the standing to bring the case forward.

What do you think of the merits of the case?

Ale
569  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Joe Biden's stock goes up on: October 26, 2008, 04:46:35 PM
Yeah, good responses. I kept thinking it was WTFTV, not WFTV.

Ale
570  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Knightshade Tonsilectomy on: October 25, 2008, 10:16:23 PM
At least it wasn't lupus.

Ale
571  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Ready? Go! Debate what Socialism really is. on: October 25, 2008, 07:28:50 PM
Haven't we been redistributing wealth to the super-rich for a while now?

Ale
572  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: What's Behind (and Ahead for) the Plunging Price of Oil on: October 25, 2008, 03:32:53 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on October 25, 2008, 03:05:28 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on October 25, 2008, 01:23:53 PM

Notice gas prices aren't dropping as quickly as they go up.  And no one elected office is doing anything about it...

Maybe because a gas station owner wants/needs to sell his older gas he bought at a higher price somewhere near that price so he doesn't take a total bath on it?  So he, you know, can attempt to make a profit and keep his station open?

And your defense for why he raised the price so eagerly on gas he'd already bought for less?

Ale
573  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin as President on: October 24, 2008, 06:16:51 PM

Quote from: Brendan on October 24, 2008, 04:20:53 PM

Any word on the cost of haircuts?

edit:

She did an interview with People magazine that's out on newstands today that reveals the next baby name she'd use:

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Palin said if she and husband Todd had had a sixth child, they had already picked a name for a boy joining siblings Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.

"I always wanted a son named Zamboni," she said.

I have to admire her creativity.

Seeing as that's the machine that grooms hockey rinks, I'm hoping that's humor, not creativity.

Ale
574  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: It's a lock. Obama will win 60% to McCain's 40%. on: October 24, 2008, 02:59:13 PM

Quote from: cheeba on October 24, 2008, 02:39:25 PM

Unfair poll. We all know the liberal elite sip a ton of over-priced coffee while reading their Nietzsche!

Apparently so does Joe the Plumber, considering the poll involves 7-11 coffee.

Ale
575  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin as President on: October 23, 2008, 08:39:18 PM

Quote from: msduncan on October 23, 2008, 07:51:02 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on October 21, 2008, 07:10:45 PM

Quote from: msduncan on October 21, 2008, 06:21:23 PM


Same ol' Democrat character assassination on Palin.      I'm not suprised.

Same ol' Duncan hypocrisy.

Ale



Your side paints Palin as either stupid, or insane (relative to her religious beliefs).

My side paints Obama as a socialist.   And he is.    Redistribution of wealth is socalist.    This tax plan of Obama's is redistribution of wealth.   38% of those he would give a tax cut to already get full refunds.

I never have advocated or subscribed to the idea that Obama was anti-American, muslim, or any of the blogger smears.   Liberal bloggers, on the other hand, are just as out of control as some on the right.

You're kidding, wright?

Ale
576  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: John McCain's Hypocrisy on: October 22, 2008, 09:35:53 PM

Quote from: cheeba on October 22, 2008, 08:35:13 PM

Quote from: rickfc on October 22, 2008, 07:36:49 PM

John McCain's spiritual guide.  Scary as fuck...
And Jeremiah Wright isn't scary?

Edit - See, this is why y'all think I'm pro-McCain and/or anti-Obama. The minister linked in the video is scary as hell. But so is Jeremiah Wright. Some of the hypocritical points in that video about McCain are bad. But Obama has changed his views as well, and has been hypocritical as well. For example, first he was against drilling, now he seems to be for it. He promised to take public funding, but realized how dumb that was and went back on it. Politicians are hypocrites by their very nature.

No, the reason we think you're right-wing is because whenever someone posts anything critical of a conservative, you always say, "But the democrats are just as bad". I've never seen you do anything similar when a liberal is criticized. It's ok to have a critical discussion of someone. We don't constantly need to be reminded that someone else is guilty also.

Ale
577  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin as President on: October 21, 2008, 07:10:45 PM

Quote from: msduncan on October 21, 2008, 06:21:23 PM


Same ol' Democrat character assassination on Palin.      I'm not suprised.

Same ol' Duncan hypocrisy.

Ale

578  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [Presidential Election] Undecided? on: October 16, 2008, 05:01:46 AM
McKinney 93
Nader 85
Obama 68
McCain 48

I guess the most liberal senator evar! is not liberal enough for me.

Ale
579  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Waterboard Obama! on: October 16, 2008, 04:57:11 AM

Quote from: cheeba on October 15, 2008, 09:39:10 PM

Quote from: Jaddison on October 15, 2008, 04:22:17 PM

The hits just keep on coming.  We, as a country, have not progressed as far as we might like to think.
I love quotes like this.

We, as a country, for the first time in our history have a black man running as one of the major candidates for President.
We, as a country, for the first time in our history are very likely to elect that black man into the highest office one can attain in our country.

But you don't hear that much do you? Instead, you hear junk like, "we are not as progressed as we might like to think" because some idiot county chairman is being an idiot.

No doubt there's still a lot of progress to be made, but this should be a time of celebration. Look at the 50 some million or whatever people who are going to vote for the first time for a black candidate, rather than the 1 idiot county chairman who thought he was being clever with stupid slogans.

"We, as a country, have not progressed as far as we might like to think."

How are these two statements different?

Ale
580  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Video on: October 11, 2008, 04:55:28 PM

Quote from: cheeba on October 11, 2008, 01:32:04 PM

Quote from: Jeff Jones on October 11, 2008, 12:22:03 PM

What's next? you're voting for Obama?!  icon_lol
Roll Eyes retard

Actually I am voting for Obama. This would not surprise you if little things like facts mattered in your reasoning.

Little tip for ya: arguing against the far-left insanity often displayed on this forum does not make me far right.

Maybe people wouldn't think you so conservative if you spent any time arguing against the far-right insanity.

Ale
581  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Video on: October 11, 2008, 04:52:27 PM

Quote from: cheeba on October 11, 2008, 04:16:19 AM

Quote from: Jeff Jones on October 11, 2008, 02:41:25 AM

Holy christ. These people make Cheeba seem like a flaming liberal in comparison.
You talk as if I'm ultra-conservative, when I'm closer to the middle than you are Tongue.

How do you know that? Do you know where he stands on nearly every issue?

Ale
582  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: After failing to block potentially damaging report, Palin releases own repor on: October 11, 2008, 01:40:59 AM
I'm so shocked the Alaska legislature came to a different conclusion than the McCain campaign.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7662820.stm

4 more years, baby!

Ale
583  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: McCain Campaign Official: Obama to Give Tax Breaks to NAMBLA Members on: October 08, 2008, 02:54:15 AM

Quote from: cheeba on October 08, 2008, 12:47:47 AM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on October 08, 2008, 12:30:30 AM

Yes.  In that thread, an outspoken Republican started a thread because he took personal umbrage at the suggestion that any other Republican, anywhere, would ever mount a race-based attack.  You didn't have a problem with that.

In this thread, an outspoken Democrat has started a thread about a particularly explicit race-based attack made by a Republican working on McCain's campaign and, after dismissing it as a "joke" by a "county scrub," you've started objecting to the very existence of the topic.
Context matters. It matters who says what. Everyone cares what Barack Obama says. No one cares what some idiot county chairman says.
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what *exactly* was your point?  Does overt, vitriolic racism not count so long as the campaign official spewing it eventually remembers to say, "Kidding!"


You don't get to make that call, and, you've been proven wrong.

Ale
584  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin opens mouth, useless comes out. on: October 06, 2008, 04:09:16 AM

Quote from: cheeba on October 06, 2008, 03:17:13 AM

Quote from: Lee on October 06, 2008, 02:51:24 AM

So if two people serve on a board, of a charitable group, it means they have some sort of relationship that a voter needs to be concerned about?
Don't forget that Obama went to Ayers' home to kick off his senate run.
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I am certainly not friends with everyone I work closely with on a daily basis.
Have you gone to the home of anyone you worked with who was not your friend?
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Why should it reflect badly on Obama that someone who supports him has a bad history but is now a community leader?
That "bad history" is more like "radical, terrorist history." Personally, I can't blame people for asking the questions about his ties to this guy. Whether or not those questions are satisfactorily answered is up to each person to decide for himself. For me, someone who is very likely to vote for Obama, this doesn't change that. It does add a pause in there, though, and it is worth criticism.

What exactly is the pause? Do you think maybe under Obama's leadership, the Weather Underground will be resurgent? Again, what gives you pause?

Ale
585  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin opens mouth, useless comes out. on: October 05, 2008, 09:51:22 PM

Quote from: cheeba on October 05, 2008, 09:47:36 PM

Quote from: Jeff Jones on October 05, 2008, 08:24:04 PM

most recently by slandering Obama as one who hangs out with terrorists.
You're saying it's untrue he hung around with Ayers? Or that Ayers is not a terrorist?

Ummm.... both. If he's a terrorist, why is he still on the loose? He's got to be easier to find than bin Laden , don't you think?

Ale
586  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: O.J. GUILTY on all counts on: October 05, 2008, 06:30:55 PM

Quote from: Xmann on October 05, 2008, 11:36:34 AM

OJ knew exactly what the hell he was doing, however setup it might seem or been.   he's a lowlife scum who got away with murder and thought he was above the law.  he could have simply went to the proper authorities and went through the proper channels to get his property.   but instead he chose to go along with this plan, which included guns btw.

hell ya he deserves to go down.   karma is a bitch....won't find one drop of sympathy or second guessing with this for me.   i personally don't care how he went down....just that he did.

Except where you second guess the jury that acquitted him.

Ale
587  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin opens mouth, useless comes out. on: October 05, 2008, 06:28:49 PM

Quote from: mikeg on October 05, 2008, 01:27:43 PM

For me personally, I don't give a rat's ass what they think on how old the earth is.  Their opinion on that matter has no affect on me.  What does is their opinion on these terrorist motherfuckers and our economy.  I want every last one of them, and their supporters, dead dead dead.  That and someone in office who doesn't think stealing more of my hard-earned money to make gov't bigger is the answer to America's problems.  Those are the ONLY two things I care about.  On every other subject I will take care of myself.   



So who do you think best addresses your two criteria?

Ale
588  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: O.J. GUILTY on all counts on: October 04, 2008, 07:38:37 PM

Quote from: Jeff Jones on October 04, 2008, 05:41:36 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on October 04, 2008, 05:26:10 PM



LOL,yeah he's famous isnt he,so i reckon a fine and some community service

Correction. He was famous. He's now infamous. I'm hoping the sentencing judge was really pissed at the outcome of the "trial of the century", and doesn't mind setting things right.

It would be sad if that happened. Judges aren't supposed to have vendettas.

Ale


589  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Budweiser American Ale - Actually good on: October 02, 2008, 10:09:09 PM

Quote from: Lee on October 02, 2008, 10:03:07 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on October 02, 2008, 09:57:38 PM

Another reason rice is popular in American lagers is that it is cheaper than barley malt.

Do all the big guys use it? I always thought it was a Bud thing.

Speaking of AB, how is ShockTop? I have never tried it.

I think some of them do, and some also use corn in the form of starch or syrup (especially malt liquors).

I didn't know Shock Top was AB. That's the orangey wheat or belgian-style one, isn't it? I smelled one someone was drinking out of a bottle and it didn't smell very good.

Ale
590  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Budweiser American Ale - Actually good on: October 02, 2008, 09:57:38 PM

Quote from: mori on October 02, 2008, 09:32:44 PM

Rice adds no flavor to the beer. It is used to lighten the body and dryness to the beer. It gives the so-called "crispness" that Bud has marketed to us for generations.

While technically rice may contribute no flavor of it's own, you can't say brewing with it doesn't influence the flavor of the beer. You could use plain white sugar as an adjunct, and while you wouldn't be able to taste the sugar, the flavor would be noticeably different.

Another reason rice is popular in American lagers is that it is cheaper than barley malt.

Ale
591  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Budweiser American Ale - Actually good on: October 02, 2008, 09:53:06 PM

Quote from: Lee on October 02, 2008, 08:23:39 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on October 02, 2008, 08:13:18 PM

Quote from: Lee on October 01, 2008, 10:31:37 PM

I strongly disagree. While it is drinkable compared to the rest of the stuff they call beer, it is still quite weak flavored and has this Budweiser like after taste that I didn't like it all (maybe from the rice?). It tastes like a water downed amber to me. I would buy it only if my choices were it or Bud. For that price ($7 here) I expect a lot more from a beer.

I'd be surprised if it contained rice or corn. Have you seen an ingredient list?



Ale

No, but Budweiser uses rice in their other beers, why would this be different? It has a similar taste to Bud I think.

Because this is a different kind of beer? The whole point is to mimic a craft brew, isn't it?

I wonder if they are 'aging' it on beechwood, and if that might give it a distinctive Bud taste.

Ale
592  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Budweiser American Ale - Actually good on: October 02, 2008, 08:13:18 PM

Quote from: Lee on October 01, 2008, 10:31:37 PM

I strongly disagree. While it is drinkable compared to the rest of the stuff they call beer, it is still quite weak flavored and has this Budweiser like after taste that I didn't like it all (maybe from the rice?). It tastes like a water downed amber to me. I would buy it only if my choices were it or Bud. For that price ($7 here) I expect a lot more from a beer.

I'd be surprised if it contained rice or corn. Have you seen an ingredient list?

Ale
593  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My kidney stone is back or something on: October 02, 2008, 07:55:11 PM
Damn. Are you sure it's the stones again? Have you ever had appendicitis?

Ale
594  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC server merge coming on: October 02, 2008, 07:05:58 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 02, 2008, 06:49:45 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on October 02, 2008, 06:42:56 PM

It's not just that he posted a new thread, it's that he loves to see something fail that he either didn't like, or couldn't play, and doesn't miss a chance to bring it up. He's been doing it for years.

And this is different from the rest of the internet, how? 

What's your point? Do you really think that's all the Internet is?

Ale
595  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC server merge coming on: October 02, 2008, 06:42:56 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 01, 2008, 01:37:17 PM

The bickering in here is ridiculous and needs to stop.  While we all might prefer tidier threads, GT doesn't have a policy about "Official" threads or anything of the sort so it's generally up to the posters' discretion if they start a new thread or put it in an existing thread.  People who are intent on criticizing the quality of others posts probably wouldn't want that same microscope applied to every one of their own posts. 

FWIW, I agree with morlac and DragonFyre- I would never have looked into AoC impressions thread but I do find news of the server merge interesting in an industry news sense and would not have known about it if it weren't for this thread. 

It's not just that he posted a new thread, it's that he loves to see something fail that he either didn't like, or couldn't play, and doesn't miss a chance to bring it up. He's been doing it for years.

Ale
596  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin opens mouth, useless comes out. on: October 01, 2008, 05:02:50 PM

Quote from: cheeba on October 01, 2008, 01:05:03 PM

I find it hilarious that we have probably the biggest financial crisis in our lifetime going on and there's only a tiny little thread with hardly any comments about it, and yet you bring up Palin and people post like it's an Apple vs. PC debate, lol.

Yeah, it's pretty funny that you're not over there fostering discussion. Just can't stay away from this thread, eh?

Ale
597  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: LOTRO - State of the game on: October 01, 2008, 02:26:00 AM

Quote from: The Grue on September 30, 2008, 02:32:31 PM

Quote from: TiLT on September 30, 2008, 01:42:39 PM

I don't really get the bonus xp stunt. If this was WoW, I'd understand, but in LOTRO, the entire point is to enjoy the leveling process, not to zoom past it. It's not like getting to level 50 is a hard task these days anyway if you really want to, considering the additions of Forochel, Evendim and the High Pass in the Misty Mountains.

I think it is because if you want to do the Moria stuff, you need to be 50.  Any XP bonus will help get you there.  I started playing a character and still haven't reached 50...I think I am 43 and this XP bonus will be great to get me the rest of the way.  Of course, it would help if I would stop logging into Warhammer.

I could have written that exact sentence.

Ale
598  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: question regarding craigs list on: September 22, 2008, 06:19:25 AM
What exactly is the scam? If drifter can wait until the check clears, what risk is he assuming?

I'd go for it.

Ale
599  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: September 21, 2008, 04:07:37 AM

Quote from: cheeba on September 21, 2008, 03:29:02 AM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on September 21, 2008, 03:23:58 AM

I don't think that treating other people as individuals and weighing their thoughts and opinions appropriately is a matter of taking the forum seriously.  That seems to me like a matter of common courtesy.
When you get your panties in a bunch over being told your panties are in a bunch, then yes, you take this forum WAY too seriously.

Big part of the problem with this forum is all the panties all bunched up.

God you're tiring.

You throw a tantrum because someone says your arguments are dumb, yet you've got no problem telling people their panties are in a bunch, or they have their head up someone's ass.

Wait, don't tell me. You were being sarcastic and I have no sense of humor. That's how it goes, right?

Ale

600  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Large Hadron Collider to Have "Practical" Spin-Offs? on: September 15, 2008, 05:26:23 AM
Wasn't Tim Berners-Lee at CERN when he created HTTP? For a nuclear research facility, they sure have had (and look to still have) a great impact on the Internet.

Ale
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