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521  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Congress giving themselves another pay raise.. on: January 08, 2009, 04:46:45 PM
Meridian 59? I don't think Vic is saying it hasn't been done before, but that it is a silly premise for a patent.

Ale
522  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: The OT god (YHWH) - a good guy? on: January 06, 2009, 09:17:45 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on January 05, 2009, 10:08:34 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on January 05, 2009, 09:54:01 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on January 05, 2009, 05:03:16 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on January 05, 2009, 04:55:41 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on January 05, 2009, 04:25:14 PM


What's your answer?

Ale

I think it's apparent that he's not going to really try to join this discussion with any kind of seriousness.  Then again, it's impossible to debate belief, so I can see why he'd avoid it.

Indeed. You believe one way I believe another. As I said pointless.

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I'm listing specific points, which no one has yet addressed.

I guess you win.


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What's your answer?

Ale

No. What's your answer!?

I don't believe any act committed in the name of good automatically becomes good.

Ale

What if that act is ordered by the creator of good?

Then I'd probably start to doubt that creator.

Ale
523  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: The OT god (YHWH) - a good guy? on: January 05, 2009, 09:54:01 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on January 05, 2009, 05:03:16 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on January 05, 2009, 04:55:41 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on January 05, 2009, 04:25:14 PM


What's your answer?

Ale

I think it's apparent that he's not going to really try to join this discussion with any kind of seriousness.  Then again, it's impossible to debate belief, so I can see why he'd avoid it.

Indeed. You believe one way I believe another. As I said pointless.

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I'm listing specific points, which no one has yet addressed.

I guess you win.


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What's your answer?

Ale

No. What's your answer!?

I don't believe any act committed in the name of good automatically becomes good.

Ale
524  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: The OT god (YHWH) - a good guy? on: January 05, 2009, 04:25:14 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on January 05, 2009, 03:46:58 PM

Quote from: Jeff on January 05, 2009, 03:21:02 PM

It's very, very difficult to defend,

Let's distill it to its simplest point.

Is the act of destroying evil, evil?

If your answer is no, then there's your solution.

If your answer is yes, well then that's a whole different discussion.



What's your answer?

Ale
525  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: At What Point is it Stealing? on: December 23, 2008, 06:07:26 PM

Quote from: morlac on December 03, 2008, 05:06:06 PM

I have actually had this very thing happen to me and not some odd named friend of mine.  It was Diablo 2 at launch from a little Mom and Pop game store.  The owner forgot to charge me as we were chatting away.  I came back the next day and asked him if he was $60 short the day before.  He was, I paid him and we had a good laugh about it.  He even gave a few free rentals.  If had been a big chain store I more than likely would have said, oh well.  Why?  Well they can likely afford the loss and my conciense can as well.  

How did he know he was $60 short? Does he do inventory every night? Or did he ring it up and you didn't pay? In that case, whose responsibility is it to make sure the currency changes hands? If he were to remember once you were outside the store, could you be charged with shoplifting?

Ale
526  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Congress giving themselves another pay raise.. on: December 23, 2008, 12:33:24 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on December 22, 2008, 02:24:56 PM

I have no problem with them giving themselves a COL raise. I do have a problem with them giving it to themselves when they've achieved pretty much nothing over the past few years.

Wouldn't that then be a merit raise, not a COL raise?

Ale
527  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Lost another of my little dog buddies today on: December 18, 2008, 11:56:17 PM
So sorry for you and your wife, Daehawk.

Ale


528  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Drinking habits and me on: December 18, 2008, 11:40:50 PM

Quote from: Sarkus on December 18, 2008, 11:23:22 PM

Quote from: kratz on December 18, 2008, 11:03:12 PM

Why, exactly, is getting drunk alone worse than getting drunk socially?  Everyone says that, like it's the social aspect that makes it okay or not okay...

I love having a few beers and playing SP video games.  That doesn't make that alcoholic intake worse than when I drink the same amount out with friends (it usually just makes it way cheaper).

Perhaps the OP needs to clarify, but from what he said what he is doing by himself is more than just "having a few beers."   If you are sitting down once a week and getting shit-faced by yourself then the question becomes "why do you need to do that?"  If you are going out once a week and getting shit-faced with friends, it still may be a problem but it also could be an activity that you and your friends enjoy doing together.



Me and my friends all like to get shit-faced alone.

Ale
529  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Drinking habits and me on: December 18, 2008, 11:36:01 PM

Quote from: Sarkus on December 18, 2008, 06:32:49 AM

Whether what you are describing is alchoholism or not is irrelevant and will vary by who you ask.  That said, my opinion is that if you can't go a week without having a drink, you have a problem of some sort.  I have a bottle of beer in my refrigerator that I bought three weeks ago and still haven't drank, and I haven't had any other alcohol in that time.  If you can do the same, then you still have control over your drinking.  If you can't, then you should look at what you can do to change things.



Hoarding alcohol is a sign of sickness.

Ale
530  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Is it Unreasonable to Fear for Obama's Safety? on: December 13, 2008, 01:28:40 AM

I think the fear is somewhat exaggerated. It would take quite an effort I believe, to pull it off, and I just don't see most hate mongering racists having the ability to do so. It's one thing to send racist cartoons, and another to actually commit to and succeed in assassinating a president.

There was a lot of hate for Bush, and I don't think there was any sort of attempt or plan, even.

Ale

Edit- Not sure why I quoted Blackadar
531  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: No Bailout for GM please. Let em die. on: December 12, 2008, 04:40:12 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on December 11, 2008, 12:39:05 PM

For those who are against the bailout...

I've heard some rumblings of discontent about the financial bailout, but I've heard it far louder about the auto manufacturers.  So why are you so against giving the auto industry $15 (and it'll probably end up being $50) billion dollars but you remain silent when Wall Street gets a blank check approaching $2 trillion dollars?

Because Wall Street is full of hard-working, underpaid folks, just like us?

Ale
532  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: A new poll to illuminate the dark chasms in our lives. on: November 22, 2008, 07:57:15 PM

Quote from: Boudreaux on November 21, 2008, 11:08:46 PM

Both. 

No, really.

Likewise.

How do blind people know when they are done?

Ale
533  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Heathens Caused the Market Meltdown! on: November 21, 2008, 04:49:53 PM

Quote from: Scuzz on November 21, 2008, 04:35:10 PM

Wow, people love to generalize on these boards. I don't know how many times I see the word "majority" thrown around without any real knowledge.

Christians are no different than any other group. There are your nice quiet Christians who worship on Sundays and never bother anybody. They follow their God and go about their business just trying to do the best for their families.

The same can be said about any group. Most gays are good people who just want the best for themselves and their families.

It is the fringes, the wacko edges of each group that create all the hulla ballo and then give the "majority" a bad name.

There seems to be a belief on the internet that all chrsitians receive their instructions via prayer every night telling them what they should do. You young ones may not know that when JFK ran for president many people argued that he would be told how to run the country by the pope.

I am not christian, I am not anything. I don't care for religion. But I don't mind Christmas or any other religious holiday.

Really? Every single one of us?

Ale
534  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Almost makes me wish I had voted for Obama on: November 21, 2008, 04:20:40 AM

Quote from: PaulBot on November 21, 2008, 01:18:50 AM

Quote from: Moliere on November 09, 2008, 05:14:56 AM

the death penalty

So he's going to stop abortions?

It took 11 days to come up with that?

Ale
535  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: No Bailout for GM please. Let em die. on: November 20, 2008, 07:59:49 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on November 20, 2008, 04:08:45 AM

Quote from: Brendan on November 20, 2008, 03:52:05 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on November 20, 2008, 02:32:25 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on November 20, 2008, 02:02:36 AM

Quote from: the Nightbreeze on November 20, 2008, 01:51:39 AM

You're looking for bogeymen Brett. Every proposal to date has clearly said that those in health plans with which they are satisfied will be able to opt to keep them.

Yes and you really think companies will keep paying for health care plans when they know they can save money by not doing it and letting people go on the national health care????    Yes companies live to spend money they dont have to like that.     Roll Eyes

Right...and companies haven't been dropping their health care coverage left and right already.  

Yeah, and, predictably, brettmcd's particular fears are something that, y'know, have been anticipated already:

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Q. Won’t my employer drop coverage?

A. No. Employers who do not offer meaningful coverage to their employees will have to
contribute a percentage of their payroll to help offset the cost of providing coverage to all
Americans. In most cases, this will eliminate an employer’s incentive to drop coverage.
Some small employers will be exempt from this requirement.

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Q. I like my current insurance coverage. Will I have to change plans?

A. No, you will not have to change plans. For those who have insurance now, nothing
will change under the Obama plan – except that you will pay less. Obama’s plan will
save a typical family up to $2,500 on premiums by bringing the health care system into
the 21st century: cutting waste, improving technology, expanding coverage to all
Americans, and paying for some high-cost cases.

That is the most amusing thing ive ever read, saying that nationalizing something will cut costs is the most laughable lie ive read in many many years.    But if you want to believe that fairy tale go ahead, ill stay here in the real world.    Also assuming that companies wont get things changed so that their interests are protected and they can shift the cost of health care to the government and tax payers to give them more money is naive.

Having such blind faith in companies is naive, especially now.

Ale
536  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: No Bailout for GM please. Let em die. on: November 20, 2008, 07:57:33 PM

Quote from: cheeba on November 20, 2008, 06:19:37 PM

Quote from: cheeba on November 20, 2008, 03:01:20 AM

What has the government done better than private industry? Anything? Serious question here, not a challenge.
I'm not seeing many responses on this.

Let's go with bailing out private industry.

Ale
537  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Franken/Coleman - predictions? on: November 15, 2008, 05:06:28 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 15, 2008, 04:35:00 PM

Prediction:   They will steal it for Franken.    They've already managed to find 400+ votes for him even before the recount.     

Do you think they should have ignored those?

Ale
538  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Just print more money on: November 12, 2008, 03:08:19 AM

Quote from: Moliere on November 12, 2008, 01:55:06 AM

Quote from: Alefroth on November 12, 2008, 01:16:31 AM

Quote from: Moliere on November 09, 2008, 07:37:11 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on November 09, 2008, 05:50:25 PM

So you would never consider increasing your income as part of your plan? That's pretty silly.

The government doesn't have income. Taxes are removing money from one part of the economy, taking some out to cover bureaucracy and then moving it to another part of the economy.

Isn't that what we all do? In your scenario, they don't have any expenses either. I can't believe you'd argue taxes aren't government income.

No, that's not what we all do. Private citizens generate income through productively providing a product or service that people want and can afford. We don't forcibly take money from the system and put it somewhere else. And yes, the government has expenses known as bureaucracy.

I'm not an Anarchist. I think there is a proper and moral role for government to take. Unfortunately 99% of all politicians rate their success by how much they grow the size and power of government.

So taking it from another area of the economy in other words. Governments provide services we need and want. Governments have budgets. Hopefully the amount they have to spend (i.e fire dept. salary) is less than the amount they take in (i.e. property taxes). Why are you so reluctant to call what they take in income?

Ale
539  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Just print more money on: November 12, 2008, 01:16:31 AM

Quote from: Moliere on November 09, 2008, 07:37:11 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on November 09, 2008, 05:50:25 PM

So you would never consider increasing your income as part of your plan? That's pretty silly.

The government doesn't have income. Taxes are removing money from one part of the economy, taking some out to cover bureaucracy and then moving it to another part of the economy.

Isn't that what we all do? In your scenario, they don't have any expenses either. I can't believe you'd argue taxes aren't government income.

Ale






540  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Just print more money on: November 09, 2008, 05:50:25 PM

Quote from: mikeg on November 09, 2008, 02:38:22 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on November 09, 2008, 05:59:52 AM

Quote from: CSL on November 09, 2008, 05:28:23 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on November 09, 2008, 01:08:26 AM

I know, that total is insane, and not one cent of it should be spent in those ways.

Yeah, maybe not all of it was needed, but I think its pretty clear the way things were heading that a very large stimulus package was needed. I know you'll disagree with me, and thats fine, but you're wrong. All these billions to my knowledge have kept the credit market from collapsing and getting us into a worse mess than the Great Depression.

We should be pillorying Bush and Clinton advisors over this. Hopefull Obama can dig us out of the hole, though it will probably take two terms to do. At least I live in the industrial country least affected by this crisis.

The only thing I'm worried about is the fact that Obama will need to probably do some general tax increases and they'll be needed, but Americans don't seem to realize yet that having the lowest tax levels in the post-industrial world has got to end if the government is going to remain able to pay bills in the long term. Again, you can disagree with me on this as cutting some of the social programs would largely solve these issues (and we could have a discussion about that), but that doesn't seem realistic or even feasible.

Yes yes tax increases when in an economic downturn, thats a recipe for recovery   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cutting programs is the only way to make up any of this money, unless you just want to increase the length of the recession or even turn it into a depression with idiotic tax increases.

I agree.  Increasing taxes as a way to boost the economy-the concept is so flawed it's laughable.  It is the SIZE and WASTE of government spending that has got us here.  The ONLY way to fix it is to do what you, me, and ANYONE else with even the teeniest sense on how to stay within a budget would do,  stop spending money on things you don't absolutely need and pay off your debt. 

Let me tell you why raising taxes won't lower our national debt.  Because, get ready for it, the government won't spend a fucking dime on paying off the debt.  They will just continue to spend money on bad, wasteful programs, and even start a few more.  They are like a person whose credit card is completely charged up to the max and then someone is stupid enough to give them money so they can go buy a new stereo.  How fucking dumb is that??!!!


Mark my words, giving them another red cent more than they are getting will       not      fix      anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you would never consider increasing your income as part of your plan? That's pretty silly.

Ale
541  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: McCain's Concession Speech on: November 07, 2008, 06:11:56 PM

Quote from: cheeba on November 07, 2008, 03:34:02 PM

Quote from: Jaddison on November 07, 2008, 11:19:54 AM

I have to say Cheeba you are the one that brought it up as an example and now you are saying no one can know what happened.
That would not be a correct interpretation. Words mean things. Quoth me:
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None of these articles we cited even know the full extent of what happened.
We know stuff happened. W's removed from keyboards, lewd photos left in copiers, phone lines cut - at least some of that stuff happened.
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If you have been around the government and worked inside the Capitol beltway you would know that GSA, especially with a brand new incoming administration would never just flat out say the White House staff made it up.
Weird sentence. You think "being around government" or proximity to Washington DC gives one special insight into the White House General Services Administration?

And the oddly described lettuce is right. This is a stupid argument. Can we end this, or are you guys really so desperate to say, "omgz we won!"?

Why have none of you commented on these booing democrats? You really think democrats don't boo? Or show lack of class?

The thread is called McCain's Concession Speech. Why would we talk about booing Democrats?
542  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: McCain's Concession Speech on: November 07, 2008, 06:05:34 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 07, 2008, 12:10:54 PM

This thread is a great example of why politics doesn't work. You guys are arguing about nonsense just like the Repubs and the Dems do.  If you'd quit trying to figure out whose d*** is bigger and try to find a common ground, maybe this country would get somewhere and you and your annointed ones woundn't be Party first, country a DISTANT 2nd.

It's not about whose deck is bigger, it's about someone making accusations based on facts they admit we know nothing about, all the while claiming to be non-partisan.

Ale
543  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 has a draconian limited activation DRM? on: October 31, 2008, 04:33:13 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 30, 2008, 06:43:46 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 30, 2008, 06:22:08 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on October 30, 2008, 06:12:29 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 30, 2008, 03:57:05 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on October 30, 2008, 02:35:29 PM

Obviously people care or we won't have this thread or other sites where people accused Bethesda for lying.

As for not expecting Bethesda to know the rumor that was spread by fans? Just try this, google "Fallout 3 DRM" today. Check the result on the first several pages, more than one hit is from article that claim that Fallout 3 has no DRM. Or go to amazon site and read about what people post about Fallout 3 before release.





It has a CD Check.  Whether you consider that DRM or not, I don't know but Bethesda was up front about it. 

Should that CD check check whether I have emulation software? Is that part of checking for the disk?

Ale




AFAIK, CD Checks that detect Alcohol and Daemon Tools have been pretty standard for many years now so I would assume the answer is yes. 
Lesse... if I were going to hire a security guard service for a wedding, am I going to hire:

A) A nazi SS guard so anal he does full body cavity checks on every guest and all the members of the party
B) Barney Fife
C) John McClane (Die Hard) who knows who the bad guys are and acts when he needs to but not before.

Yeah. People are upset that it's not Don Knots asleep in the corner; apparently Bethsoft is interested in letting people enjoy their product whilst deterring casual piracy.

If you hire a guard at a wedding to make sure no one crashes it, and he ends up doing cavity searches, you definitely hired the wrong guard and the guests sure aren't going to dig it.

Ale
544  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 has a draconian limited activation DRM? on: October 31, 2008, 04:30:42 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 30, 2008, 06:22:08 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on October 30, 2008, 06:12:29 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 30, 2008, 03:57:05 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on October 30, 2008, 02:35:29 PM

Obviously people care or we won't have this thread or other sites where people accused Bethesda for lying.

As for not expecting Bethesda to know the rumor that was spread by fans? Just try this, google "Fallout 3 DRM" today. Check the result on the first several pages, more than one hit is from article that claim that Fallout 3 has no DRM. Or go to amazon site and read about what people post about Fallout 3 before release.





It has a CD Check.  Whether you consider that DRM or not, I don't know but Bethesda was up front about it. 

Should that CD check check whether I have emulation software? Is that part of checking for the disk?

Ale




AFAIK, CD Checks that detect Alcohol and Daemon Tools have been pretty standard for many years now so I would assume the answer is yes. 

Well, then that ceases to be just a disk check, doesn't it? And I have neither of those. And it has only happened once out of about 8 starts.
545  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 has a draconian limited activation DRM? on: October 30, 2008, 06:12:29 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 30, 2008, 03:57:05 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on October 30, 2008, 02:35:29 PM

Obviously people care or we won't have this thread or other sites where people accused Bethesda for lying.

As for not expecting Bethesda to know the rumor that was spread by fans? Just try this, google "Fallout 3 DRM" today. Check the result on the first several pages, more than one hit is from article that claim that Fallout 3 has no DRM. Or go to amazon site and read about what people post about Fallout 3 before release.



It has a CD Check.  Whether you consider that DRM or not, I don't know but Bethesda was up front about it. 

Should that CD check check whether I have emulation software? Is that part of checking for the disk?

Ale


546  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I Like Mustard! on: October 30, 2008, 12:48:49 AM

Quote from: TK-421 on October 29, 2008, 07:42:15 PM

I prefer eating beaver without mustard. 

Perhaps you prefer a little mayo?

Ale
547  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 has a draconian limited activation DRM? on: October 30, 2008, 12:44:58 AM
After starting the game 3 times, the second time gave me a Windows error, I got an error message the fourth time saying something about incompatibility with emulation software, and had a Securom link for more info. I just cancelled and restarted and it worked that time. Is this just part of the cd check?

Ale
548  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: What does "drinking the Kool Aid" mean? on: October 29, 2008, 03:52:37 PM

Quote from: cheeba on October 29, 2008, 03:22:58 PM

^Guess who's been called a kool-aid drinker before  icon_lol.
549  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Damn I knew I should have voted! on: October 28, 2008, 05:19:12 AM
That's awesome!  icon_biggrin

Ale
550  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama Ineligible to be President? on: October 26, 2008, 04:54:06 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 26, 2008, 04:26:34 AM

Well to be totally honest the judge didnt rule on the merits of the case one way or the other, just to say that Berg doesnt have the standing to bring the case forward.

What do you think of the merits of the case?

Ale
551  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Joe Biden's stock goes up on: October 26, 2008, 04:46:35 PM
Yeah, good responses. I kept thinking it was WTFTV, not WFTV.

Ale
552  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Knightshade Tonsilectomy on: October 25, 2008, 10:16:23 PM
At least it wasn't lupus.

Ale
553  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Ready? Go! Debate what Socialism really is. on: October 25, 2008, 07:28:50 PM
Haven't we been redistributing wealth to the super-rich for a while now?

Ale
554  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: What's Behind (and Ahead for) the Plunging Price of Oil on: October 25, 2008, 03:32:53 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on October 25, 2008, 03:05:28 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on October 25, 2008, 01:23:53 PM

Notice gas prices aren't dropping as quickly as they go up.  And no one elected office is doing anything about it...

Maybe because a gas station owner wants/needs to sell his older gas he bought at a higher price somewhere near that price so he doesn't take a total bath on it?  So he, you know, can attempt to make a profit and keep his station open?

And your defense for why he raised the price so eagerly on gas he'd already bought for less?

Ale
555  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin as President on: October 24, 2008, 06:16:51 PM

Quote from: Brendan on October 24, 2008, 04:20:53 PM

Any word on the cost of haircuts?

edit:

She did an interview with People magazine that's out on newstands today that reveals the next baby name she'd use:

Quote
Palin said if she and husband Todd had had a sixth child, they had already picked a name for a boy joining siblings Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.

"I always wanted a son named Zamboni," she said.

I have to admire her creativity.

Seeing as that's the machine that grooms hockey rinks, I'm hoping that's humor, not creativity.

Ale
556  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: It's a lock. Obama will win 60% to McCain's 40%. on: October 24, 2008, 02:59:13 PM

Quote from: cheeba on October 24, 2008, 02:39:25 PM

Unfair poll. We all know the liberal elite sip a ton of over-priced coffee while reading their Nietzsche!

Apparently so does Joe the Plumber, considering the poll involves 7-11 coffee.

Ale
557  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin as President on: October 23, 2008, 08:39:18 PM

Quote from: msduncan on October 23, 2008, 07:51:02 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on October 21, 2008, 07:10:45 PM

Quote from: msduncan on October 21, 2008, 06:21:23 PM


Same ol' Democrat character assassination on Palin.      I'm not suprised.

Same ol' Duncan hypocrisy.

Ale



Your side paints Palin as either stupid, or insane (relative to her religious beliefs).

My side paints Obama as a socialist.   And he is.    Redistribution of wealth is socalist.    This tax plan of Obama's is redistribution of wealth.   38% of those he would give a tax cut to already get full refunds.

I never have advocated or subscribed to the idea that Obama was anti-American, muslim, or any of the blogger smears.   Liberal bloggers, on the other hand, are just as out of control as some on the right.

You're kidding, wright?

Ale
558  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: John McCain's Hypocrisy on: October 22, 2008, 09:35:53 PM

Quote from: cheeba on October 22, 2008, 08:35:13 PM

Quote from: rickfc on October 22, 2008, 07:36:49 PM

John McCain's spiritual guide.  Scary as fuck...
And Jeremiah Wright isn't scary?

Edit - See, this is why y'all think I'm pro-McCain and/or anti-Obama. The minister linked in the video is scary as hell. But so is Jeremiah Wright. Some of the hypocritical points in that video about McCain are bad. But Obama has changed his views as well, and has been hypocritical as well. For example, first he was against drilling, now he seems to be for it. He promised to take public funding, but realized how dumb that was and went back on it. Politicians are hypocrites by their very nature.

No, the reason we think you're right-wing is because whenever someone posts anything critical of a conservative, you always say, "But the democrats are just as bad". I've never seen you do anything similar when a liberal is criticized. It's ok to have a critical discussion of someone. We don't constantly need to be reminded that someone else is guilty also.

Ale
559  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin as President on: October 21, 2008, 07:10:45 PM

Quote from: msduncan on October 21, 2008, 06:21:23 PM


Same ol' Democrat character assassination on Palin.      I'm not suprised.

Same ol' Duncan hypocrisy.

Ale

560  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [Presidential Election] Undecided? on: October 16, 2008, 05:01:46 AM
McKinney 93
Nader 85
Obama 68
McCain 48

I guess the most liberal senator evar! is not liberal enough for me.

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