Good job Obama! Now we're in three wars!  

Who could have HOPED for this?!

This is hardly OUR war. If anything we are providing (with the co-operation of several other world powers) the much needed support that the Lybian figthers need and cannot possibly get on their own.

This is not Iraq or Afghan, we invaded those countries. This time the Lybian people started the war and are in it for their freedom. I would much rather support our intervention in Lybia than in Iraq. As I've said before, you cannot force democracy on people who do not want it. In this case the Lybians want it and they deserve our help getting it.

No this is a civil war that we have no place choosing sides in.   If a group starts a civil war hoping that someone will bail them out because they took on more then they could handle then they should lose.

I think you may want to read up on the background for the current conflict. The world isn't choosing sides between two armed factions. The UN went to the step it did because Gadhafi was bombing civilians who tried to demonstrate peacefully. This is a human right. It was clear that this would have turned into a massacre of unarmed civilians without intervention, so the UN stepped in. The stated goal so far is to keep the skies clear of bombers so that civilians will be safe, but there is also select bombing of military targets that are convening upon these same civilians.

The Libyan rebels didn't start a civil war. They protested peacefully and were killed for it, and are now merely protecting their own lives. Gadhafi started this war.

So when do you propose the air strikes start in North Korea, Bahrain, Russia and other countries that either treat their citizens worse then what is happening in Libya or their citizens have been shot for protesting their government?

Who says air strikes need to happen in those countries at all?

Ale

The logic being used by people to support air strikes in Libya says they should start immediately.

That argument is old and simplistic, and I'm sure you know that.

Just because you can't solve all problems with the same tool, doesn't mean you should do nothing.


Ale

Oops you did it again.

Ale

Good job Obama! Now we're in three wars!  

Who could have HOPED for this?!

This is hardly OUR war. If anything we are providing (with the co-operation of several other world powers) the much needed support that the Lybian figthers need and cannot possibly get on their own.

This is not Iraq or Afghan, we invaded those countries. This time the Lybian people started the war and are in it for their freedom. I would much rather support our intervention in Lybia than in Iraq. As I've said before, you cannot force democracy on people who do not want it. In this case the Lybians want it and they deserve our help getting it.

No this is a civil war that we have no place choosing sides in.   If a group starts a civil war hoping that someone will bail them out because they took on more then they could handle then they should lose.

I think you may want to read up on the background for the current conflict. The world isn't choosing sides between two armed factions. The UN went to the step it did because Gadhafi was bombing civilians who tried to demonstrate peacefully. This is a human right. It was clear that this would have turned into a massacre of unarmed civilians without intervention, so the UN stepped in. The stated goal so far is to keep the skies clear of bombers so that civilians will be safe, but there is also select bombing of military targets that are convening upon these same civilians.

The Libyan rebels didn't start a civil war. They protested peacefully and were killed for it, and are now merely protecting their own lives. Gadhafi started this war.

So when do you propose the air strikes start in North Korea, Bahrain, Russia and other countries that either treat their citizens worse then what is happening in Libya or their citizens have been shot for protesting their government?

Who says air strikes need to happen in those countries at all?

Ale

Way to miss that little joke.

As far as laws being broke, why dont we start with government-forced health care first?

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Way to prove my point. You did all right too, Brett.

Ale

Are you disputing a law was violated?

Ale

It's not breaking the law when conservatives get what they want, only when liberals do.

Ale

True enough. Plus my brain hurts.

Let's twist the knife, then!  Shall we?

You're sitting on a bus stop bench that is just sitting there in one spot as benches are known to do.

I, on the other hand, am driving the finest in Hyundai nuclear powered rocket cars and I zoom past you at a ridiculous pace.

Due to special relativity and time dilation, you observe that the Rolex watch I am wearing is advancing much more slowly than your own timepiece.

Naturally, as I look out my Hyundai window I would see your Casio moving much faster than my Rolex, right?  If my time is moving slower, then yours should be faster?

Nope.  To me it looks as if your Casio is moving much more slowly than my Rolex.

That's because your Hyundai is actually a piece of junk, and his bench is zooming past you.

Ale

We had to drive 90 miles to Seattle (twice, because it was an overnight) for that same treatment, but it only cost $700. I would definitely see if you can get it cheaper.

We also had the option of the lifetime medication, but didn't relish the idea of giving a pill every day (for our sake, and Kleine's).

The treatment was successful, but we lost her about a year later to a tumor in her intestine, which one vet thinks was just another manifestation of the thyroid issue.

Ale

And potassium iodide does nothing against Cesium-137.

Ale

I beat the game.

Feels good to hit 50 finally. I fucking ran out of quests half way through 48. So i basically grinded on rifts.

I'm confused how you could run out of quests.  I've been 50 for a couple days and still have a zone and a half of quests plus dailies to do.  Also, 50 isn't 'beating the game' but I have a feeling you know that.

cause there are so many broken quests in this game. it's fucking insane.

? I haven't seen a single broken quest and I've only heard of one possible one (monster wasn't respawning) through 33 levels. I've done every single quest in Freemarch, Stonefield and Scarlet Gorge, including the epic story quests.

Jersoc always has problems with MMOs. He's one of the unluckiest guys I've seen.

Ale

Those must be Mazda 6's.

Ale

well...i guess that's one way of...well...i'm not quite sure what you're intent there was....but i'm sure that's one way of doing it.

at least you didn't post

That's Chinese, you insensitive bastard.

Ale

You guys do know the posting history of the OP, right?

Don't feed the troll, homies.

I actually checked it out after I posted. Seems like most of his forays outside of the trade forum are somewhat trollish and bigoted.

Ale

Well, it says so right in the thread title what you're getting. If you didn't want tasteless Japan quake humor, you shouldn't have gone into the thread.

Tasteless doesn't bother me.  It simply wasn't funny.

Exactly. If you're going to go the tasteless route, and it least do it well.

This joke was unoriginal and pedestrian, as well as being tasteless. Major fail.

And since when is it PC to have respect for those killed and affected by a major tragedy?

Ale

Maybe instead of drawing Aragorn as a comparison I should've just said "a Warrior that uses a 2 hand sword most of the time."  

You'll want to consider the warrior soul champion, then. They get bonuses for 2-handed weapon. They are an offensive soul, so you'll want to look at a defensive one as well. Void Knight or Warlord maybe.

Ale

Is it just me or it is annoying that mobs many levels below you will still attack and knock you off your mount easily?

I just complained about this yesterday lol!  Seriously, if they are grey con (presumably no xp) they should really just ignore you, especially mounted.  Isn't that how pretty much every other game handled it?

LotRO yes, WoW no. Forget how EQ2 is.

Ale

The first amendment does not give you the right to be a troll in real life.

I can't wait for the next time these assholes come to Saint Louis.

You got a 2nd amendment solution?

Ale

My PC is around 3 years old.  Don't remember the processor (dual-core), 2G RAM (not enough) and an old 8800GT card.  It runs ok, but with Rift coming out I'd like to get more than 25FPS and turn up the graphics a bit.

So, what are the best cards in the $125-$175 price range?  I was thinking about the ATI 5770 ($140), though Rift isn't very fond of ATI cards right now.  What else is out there that can give me a substantial speed boost from my old 8800GT? 

What is the problem with ATI cards? I've got a 5750 and run on max settings. I get 30-40 fps, which seems OK to me. I have been considering using that DX9 dll tweak I've heard about to see if I can squeeze some more out of it.

Ale

I'm gonna try this one last time.....I am now leaving to go get my kids at school. When I return I hope to not visit this R&P forum again for a long while.

So whatever you guys say after this I hope to be quite oblivious to  

I can't believe you're allowed near children.

Ale

Wow, man...that was way beyond the line.

Why? He has a heck of a temper and very little patience.

Ale

I think I'm already seeing a slow down of participation in public events, at least in Freemarch. I passed by a lot of uncontested invasions and rifts. Maybe I'm just in a leveling blindspot. If I go back and seal rifts that I can solo, I wonder how that will affect my reward.

Ale

I'm gonna try this one last time.....I am now leaving to go get my kids at school. When I return I hope to not visit this R&P forum again for a long while.

So whatever you guys say after this I hope to be quite oblivious to  

I can't believe you're allowed near children.

Ale

SHADDAP THE BOTH OF YA!!! Don't make me pull this car over or I'm crackin' skulls!  

Plus, I'm hoping someone is dumb enough to take that $100 wager so don't get this thread locked.

You're going to have to give a lot better odds.

Ale

But we all know there is nothing to be cut in government, and only tax increases can solve our budget problems.   This report must just be all a right wing lie.

This is needlessly argumentative...

It is argumentative. But needlessly? No.That's what this board is for.

And Ale. WTF? He was making a point that raising taxes isn't necessarily the answer. Sure he did it in a argumentative way, but you're reply was far more juvenile than his post, as it was the first one to insult someone.

The bottom line is our governments need to stop spending like they have the money to burn. Because they don't. And raising taxes is really just a short term fix to the problem.

It's not my fault if you can't see his post is antagonistic. He comes across as wanting to rub liberal's noses in something, rather than wanting a discourse. You managed to convey the idea without being inflammatory.

Ale

While your post came across as even more juvenile, while having the double bonus of adding absolutely nothing to the discussion.

So you counter that by calling me juvenile and adding nothing to the discussion. We can do this all day.

Ale

But we all know there is nothing to be cut in government, and only tax increases can solve our budget problems.   This report must just be all a right wing lie.

This is needlessly argumentative...

It is argumentative. But needlessly? No.That's what this board is for.

And Ale. WTF? He was making a point that raising taxes isn't necessarily the answer. Sure he did it in a argumentative way, but you're reply was far more juvenile than his post, as it was the first one to insult someone.

The bottom line is our governments need to stop spending like they have the money to burn. Because they don't. And raising taxes is really just a short term fix to the problem.

It's not my fault if you can't see his post is antagonistic. He comes across as wanting to rub liberal's noses in something, rather than wanting a discourse. You managed to convey the idea without being inflammatory.

Ale

 Do you even realize the time factor involved in trying to debate all of you by myself? You probably couldn't do it, dude.

I imagine it would be time consuming if you were actually debating.

Ale

I wish that at some point people would be able to understand that a person disagreeing with you is NOT the same thing as them not debating you or discussing an issue in good faith.  

Thanks, but him and his kind here have an agenda. why else would they waste their time again and again posting just digs in every one of my threads? Unless that it's the only way they feel better about their own pathetic lives daily.

Zeke things like this and telling someone to go f themselves does nothing to help your cause here, whatever that cause may be.  

I know, but I figure if they're allowed to get away with their baiting of me and their personal vendettas are allowed, why shouldn't I have the luxury of telling them to piss off?

This particular "person" has been hanging around here for days just waiting. I've seen him in this forum lurking.

And just when things calmed down a bit here today, he chimes in with something to try and set me off again.

I apologize for stirring things up again. I posted before I saw things had calmed down, and there was a noticeable change in tone after Hepcat's post.

Ale

 Do you even realize the time factor involved in trying to debate all of you by myself? You probably couldn't do it, dude.

I imagine it would be time consuming if you were actually debating.

Ale

I wish that at some point people would be able to understand that a person disagreeing with you is NOT the same thing as them not debating you or discussing an issue in good faith.   

I didn't say he wasn't discussing.

Ale

But we all know there is nothing to be cut in government, and only tax increases can solve our budget problems.   This report must just be all a right wing lie.

This is needlessly argumentative...

Not at all, just trying to post in the spirit of this board, thats all.

No, you're just being juvenile. And you wonder why nobody is willing to have a discussion with you and Zeke.

Ale

 Do you even realize the time factor involved in trying to debate all of you by myself? You probably couldn't do it, dude.

I imagine it would be time consuming if you were actually debating.

Ale

These servers fucking suck and the slow response is getting ridiculous now. Can't even load back in always stuck at 99% and a quick glance at their forums shows this is wide spread. Absolutely insane. In this day and age it really is inexcusable now.

ok, apparently it's just a server cluster, so like 4 are affected. awesome. Did I mention belmont crashed 4 times earlier too? No? well there ya go.

Seems like you always have problems with a game. Must be pretty unlucky.

Ale

there's quests in the game where you siphon rage from trolls. GOTY

Better than collecting their sweat, I guess.

Ale

Ok, so we already covered war and the climate. What's next? Disease, Famine, Aliens, Godzilla?

Gay marriage?

Ale

Odd, it doesn't seem like he landed that hard.

Ale

who says FoxNews isn't fair and balanced? 

most of us here

Fixed that for ya

It was already implied.

Ale

Private businesses, it comes from profits.

And those profits just fall from thew sky?

Ale

@Blackadar

What happens if you do get wiped off the map? What would the consequences to Sanctum have been if you had lost?

Ale

And I prefer Squinty, not Slanty.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

Ale

Yeah...  the vegans I've come across generally do go through the trouble of finding vegan-friendly versions of all those products.

as far as they know anyway

I know some who try but the extent of that list makes it pretty evident that unless you build yourself a log cabin in the woods, grow all your own food and wear woven grass skirts for clothes that you just can't reliably do it all of the way.

Cow hooves used in plastics. I'm sure not all plastics but how would you ever know? The vegan friend I have owns a macbook and an iphone, either of which could have hoof plastic. Her apartment could have plywood and/or wallpaper using hooves or plaster using hair. Her car's airfilter might use hair, etc. I'm sure there are vegan websites that make their best effort to identify all of this stuff but I'm guessing that 100% success is an almost impossible to attain goal.

The good comes from eliminating as many as you can, not striving to reach some unknowable or unattainable goal. Don't let less than 100% success stop you from making the effort.

Ale

For those who love Sriracha, have any of you tried chili paste in place of the Sriracha sauce?  Being that I absolutely love Vietnamese cuisine, chili paste has become a necessary obsession, especially with pho or any other Asian dishes.  A personal favorite is Sambal Oelek.  Other brands seem to use too much garlic, but Sambal Oelek is the real deal, simply ground up chilies into paste and that's about it.  Great flavor, a decent amount of heat, and it seems to have more chili flavor rather than the garlic element of Sriracha.  Since discovering Sambal Oelek I haven't purchased Sriracha since.   

I love to put that in my pho, and had some just Friday. Mmm mmm.

A bit off topic, but are there any kim chee lovers here?

Ale

Looks like Morissey to me.

Is this poll invalid now?

Ale