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1  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 25, 2014, 11:34:00 PM

Quote from: Zekester on June 25, 2014, 10:34:07 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on June 25, 2014, 06:07:20 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 24, 2014, 01:27:36 PM

Have I mentioned how much I enjoy everything that Zeke writes?   icon_lol

It's like having our own private cautionary tale right here on GT.  We really need to get his words out there so that we can start showing the right what's happening.

I feel guilty for enjoying watching him implode, but it couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

who are you again??  icon_confused

and who's imploding???  icon_confused icon_confused retard

They call me mellow yellow.
2  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 25, 2014, 06:10:49 PM

Quote from: Zekester on June 24, 2014, 01:51:14 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 24, 2014, 01:45:57 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on June 24, 2014, 01:37:01 PM

Quote from: Zekester on June 24, 2014, 01:31:33 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 24, 2014, 01:27:36 PM

Have I mentioned how much I enjoy everything that Zeke writes?   icon_lol


Just because we are the minority on this forum does not mean that we are wrong on the issue.


So you are saying the Native American's are right then.  stirthepot

Side note on the Native American / Indian.  Upon moving to New Mexico I learned that the Indians here prefer to be called Indians.  All the references you see around here pretty much all say Indian, from Indian tacos to Indian dances to the Indian Culture Center.  Generally, they think "Native American" is a stupid term.  Using just "Native" is acceptable.

I prefer whitebread over whitey. Whitey has a negative connotation.
I also prefer just "pale" as opposed to "paleskin".
Caucasian is just a bizarre word. Don't use it to describe me, thank you.

I wonder if these "Natives" care about my concerns?

Your persecution complex is about to achieve orbit.
3  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 25, 2014, 06:07:20 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 24, 2014, 01:27:36 PM

Have I mentioned how much I enjoy everything that Zeke writes?   icon_lol

It's like having our own private cautionary tale right here on GT.  We really need to get his words out there so that we can start showing the right what's happening.

I feel guilty for enjoying watching him implode, but it couldn't happen to a more deserving person.
4  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 25, 2014, 06:05:24 PM

Quote from: Zekester on June 24, 2014, 01:21:30 PM


The fans that don't care what the name of the team is, and just want to watch their team play, are being assumed to be racist if they disagree with any attempt to change the name.


If it doesn't matter to them what the name is, what's wrong with using something that isn't a slur?

5  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Re: Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 25, 2014, 05:27:45 PM

Quote from: Scraper on June 19, 2014, 02:15:19 PM

Quote from: Canuck on June 19, 2014, 02:03:58 PM

Quote from: Scraper on June 19, 2014, 01:46:12 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 19, 2014, 01:05:33 PM

Quote from: Scraper on June 19, 2014, 12:50:21 PM

The biggest problem I have with it is that we have a branch of the government deciding what is and isn't "offensive" based on speech. If you guys so clearly want to believe in the free market then why can't the USPTO sit back and watch the trademark wither away because the American people don't buy the products it's associated with?  

Why is it is so difficult to understand that this is out and out racism.  Redskin is NOT a tribal name, nor is it a person's name.  It's a racist slur.  Indians have been trying to get it banned for ages.  This isn't a new endeavor created by a "PC crowd".  If there was a team called the New York Kikes or the San Diego Tar Babies, would that be okay?  

And the American people have repeatedly proven that they aren't ALWAYS going to do the right thing.  As a matter of fact, if the government DIDN'T step in from time to time, we'd still have lynchings, whites only water fountains and segregation in many areas.

1. I never denied that it's offensive or racist.

2. Lynchings, whites only water fountains, and segregation are a far cry from a corporate logo and team name. In fact they're not even in the same ball park. We're not talking about basic human rights here, what we're talking about is hurting people's feelings. It's a slippery slope when the government starts making decisions based off of hurt feelings.
I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but the fact that Zeke agrees with you could be a hint that you might be wrong on this one. smile

I'm not so sure that Zeke does agree with me. His opinion from what I can tell is "Damn liberals are trying to force change on us again". My opinion is more rooted in the fact that I don't think the Government should decide what "hurts people feelings". The free market should do that in this case because it is a company selling a product. In this case the product name just happens to be offensive.

I know there are limits to the "Free Market" principle. We can't let companies do whatever they want all the time. In this case though we seem to be saying "it's ok for the government to deny trademark protection because the trademark hurts people's feelings". Which to me is a huge difference from a company that is actively denying people's rights or actively hurting the community. "Feelings" can be tricky.

In a free market, trademarks wouldn't exist.
6  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 25, 2014, 04:30:03 PM

Quote from: Zekester on June 19, 2014, 01:23:52 AM

Complete absurdity.

This honky cracker privileged white bread knuckle dragger wouldn't give 2 shits if a team was called "Palefaces"

Get over yourselves.

On second thought, maybe I will give 2 shits.......two can always play this stupid game.

Easy to say when there aren't any.
7  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Great Cable Purge of 2014 on: April 10, 2014, 06:33:12 AM
Anyone using Aereo?
8  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Elder Scrolls Online on: February 27, 2014, 10:41:16 PM
I've got a code if any one wants it.
9  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: So, I've been in the hostpital - A warning on: February 26, 2014, 08:22:23 PM
Dang, Turtle. Hoping for your recovery.
10  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Ted Cruz: The Alienator on: February 19, 2014, 04:40:52 PM

Quote from: Mystic95Z on February 17, 2014, 12:13:37 PM

Edited and replaced with stupid, or is that to harsh for you guys too???

Edit: I had told Mystic to grow up, but decided that was uncool.
11  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Soft drinks? on: February 16, 2014, 07:07:28 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on February 10, 2014, 05:09:54 PM

I guess my beer bill works out to $40/wk. Was spending closer to $55 before I cut back last month. 

Seltzer is far cheaper in 2-liter bottles than in single-serving cans. My seltzer habit only costs me 40 cents a day.

Have you ever thought about getting a kegerator? I've built two out of old refrigerators and it's not as difficult as it seems. A 5 gallon keg from the local brewery is $75 and a 7.5g is $90. The 5 gal one lasts my wife and I just about a month drinking one or two beers per night each.
12  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Soft drinks? on: February 16, 2014, 07:04:17 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on February 07, 2014, 02:43:04 PM

Yeah, count me as another seltzer / club soda convert.  I used to not like it at all, but I've now acquired the taste and it's such a great guilt-free not-water thing to drink.  I keep considering joining the soda stream bandwagon because I like it so much.

Do it! I've been using one for 6 or 7 years and I've got nothing bad to say about it. Just replaced our original at the end of last year with one that holds the bigger canister.
13  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Marijuana. Just watched a documentary. on: February 06, 2014, 11:39:44 PM

Quote from: Razgon on February 06, 2014, 06:58:05 AM

Well, I honestly don't know how long you are under any kind of influence, but as long as its detectable in your system, you are liable to lose your license here in Denmark so..Don't do drugs and drive is the message :-)

That's basically how it is here in Washington state now. The legalization bill made it a crime to have a minuscule amount in your system while driving, even if you haven't consumed any in days or weeks. It really angered the medical users.
14  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Suggestions for a great mattress on: February 05, 2014, 11:10:50 PM
Have had a Dormia memory foam for about 5 years and I think it's great. It really helped with some back aches I was having.
15  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Marijuana. Just watched a documentary. on: February 05, 2014, 11:04:47 PM

Quote from: Razgon on February 05, 2014, 07:28:34 AM

In Denmark its illegal to drive in up to a week after ingesting any kind of weed. It stays in the body for a long time. Cannabis can be in the body up til several weeks after ingesting it, and if you are driving while that can be found, your drivers license will be revoked immediately.

Driving while under any kind of influence is both dangerous and stupid.

You aren't implying that because it can be detected after weeks, that you're under the influence for that long, are you?
16  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Elder Scrolls Online on: February 05, 2014, 11:01:19 PM
I'll be trying it out this weekend for the first time.
17  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Elder Scrolls Online on: February 05, 2014, 08:04:24 PM

Quote from: Razgon on January 14, 2014, 01:24:51 PM

Quote from: Purge on January 14, 2014, 01:20:30 PM

I consider "No Free to Play (F2P) elements" a bullet point in the pro's column. Hell, that's a selling feature in and of itself and should be plastered on the front of the box.

"All required parts contained within" would be an alternative slogan. Tongue

Thats actually pretty damn good! I just doubt any MMO's will go for it these days. I'm pretty sure ESO will featuer an in-game shop of sorts as well.

There isn't an F2P game that couldn't say the same thing. You get everything required for free.
18  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Signing up for Obamacare on: January 29, 2014, 01:23:53 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on January 27, 2014, 09:54:43 PM

I hope you are wrong with that, single payer government run health care would be an absolute disaster for most americans.   The insurance I have now is excellent insurance and costs far less then the massive taxes that would be needed to pay for single payer coverage.   It would be the same for a majority of americans.   And if you try to tell me that we will get pay increases from not having employers paying for coverage that will make up for that I will have to laugh for about 3 days at the absurdity of such a statement.   Companies will cut the coverage and keep the savings for profit, that is what companies do.

I don't think you understand single payer. Single payer does not equal government run health care, nor does it mean free health care. To boil it down, it basically means government run health insurance. Think Medicare for everyone.
19  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Elder Scrolls Online on: November 23, 2013, 12:10:14 AM

Quote from: Gratch on November 22, 2013, 11:36:00 PM

Tried logging on for about 10 minutes, just kept getting an "Unable to connect to the server" message. Shouldn't be terribly surprised, I suppose.

Are beta characters being carried over or wiped?  I assume wiped, but sometimes they let you bring them with.  Spending a ton of time in beta then having to redo all the quests when it officially launches is a path to an early burnout for me.  Don't want to make that mistake again.  smile

I doubt they'll be saved this early on. It will probably be clear when there are no more wipes. Open beta, usually.
20  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / LotRO: Helm's Deep on: November 22, 2013, 09:05:19 PM
Is anyone else playing this? I just came back to it. Haven't played since the end of Isengard. Supposedly a really large expansion including Epic Battles (the ability to have hundreds of models on screen at once), and a major overhaul of the trait system. Naturally the change has produced a ton of controversy, but I like the way it feels.
21  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Harry Reid Leaning Toward Filibuster Reform Vote This Week on: November 22, 2013, 08:30:46 PM

Quote from: Scraper on November 22, 2013, 05:06:58 PM

That's great but what are the Dems going to do when Republicans hold the majority? I suspect they will be asking themselves WTF were we thinking?

Shouldn't affect them as they didn't really try to block every nomination for no reason in the past.
22  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [food] Holiday Pringles on: November 16, 2013, 02:08:27 AM

Quote from: metallicorphan on November 15, 2013, 07:41:23 PM

which S+V ones?,if you mean Chipsticks then i will let you off



but if you mean Walkers(or as you guys call them,Lays),then i will turn my nose up to you



and anyway,once you start one of those packet of crisps they are gone in 5 minutes,whereas a tube of Pringles last for ages*


*5 minutes longer than the packet of crisps the way i eat them

http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2013/04/british-crisps/
23  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: November 12, 2013, 02:47:25 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on November 11, 2013, 02:51:00 AM



Take The L
24  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: October 25, 2013, 04:28:37 PM
How long should I "Wait for it..."?
25  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 11, 2013, 02:48:36 AM

Quote from: msduncan on October 11, 2013, 12:25:34 AM



Yes. Yes.   Democrats are benevolent angels that only cast votes in the best interest of the 'Murican people.    Republicans are evil greedy devils that cast votes in their own selfish personal interests.

Said no one ever.
26  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 10, 2013, 08:18:30 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 10, 2013, 08:12:11 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on October 10, 2013, 03:09:58 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 10, 2013, 02:40:08 AM

Of course your party gains politically by people being hurt as much they can be by the shutdown as you can blame the opposing party for everything.

We don't gain politically. We don't want people to be hurt. That's why the Senate has passed four bills to reopen the budget, and House Democrats are standing in the rain right now calling for Boehner to allow a vote.

Quote
The people don't matter to anyone in DC anymore, whatever gains the most power over the opposition is all that matters.

The American people matter a great deal to me and the people I work with.

Getting reelected is what matters to people in DC, anything else is second place, and a very very very distant second place at that.

Doubling down on the lie.
27  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 10, 2013, 05:05:13 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on October 10, 2013, 03:09:58 PM


Quote
The people don't matter to anyone in DC anymore, whatever gains the most power over the opposition is all that matters.

The American people matter a great deal to me and the people I work with.

So in other words, brettmcd was lying.
28  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Sheriff Joe institutes vegetarian meals for inmates on: October 08, 2013, 08:15:23 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on September 28, 2013, 02:10:18 AM

A plant-based diet is both cheaper and healthier. If you take it to extremes (yeah vegans, I'm talking about you) you need to worry about protein and various micronutrients that Sheriff Joe isn't going to be interested in. But they'll be fine if they're getting cheese, eggs, fish, etc.

It is very easy to get enough protein, as long as you are getting enough calories, even as a vegan.
29  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Sheriff Joe institutes vegetarian meals for inmates on: October 08, 2013, 08:10:33 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on September 29, 2013, 05:19:31 PM

Check harder.

-Autistic Angel

Not sure what we are supposed to get from your link, but eating fish is definitely not vegetarian.

Ale
30  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Ventura/Stern in 2016? on: October 01, 2013, 10:07:01 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 01, 2013, 09:03:18 PM

Don't care much for either of them, but could they really any worse then the current president or anyone the dems or repubs will put forward in 2016?

Without even trying.
31  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 30, 2013, 06:35:49 AM

Quote from: Rip on September 29, 2013, 09:05:23 PM

When you say I won't give an inch they will do the most hostile thing they have.


Why? Are they psychopaths?
32  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Marijuana. Just watched a documentary. on: September 27, 2013, 12:06:20 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on September 26, 2013, 11:04:06 PM

Quote from: rshetts2 on September 26, 2013, 09:13:59 PM

Drug enforcement isnt a job, its an industry that is siphoning tax dollars in incredible amounts.  In truth the war on marijuana is a criminal act perpetrated against the taxpayers by the federal govt.  The rest is just a smokescreen to help them hold on to that money siphon.

Which sort of breaks down if marijuana starts generating tax dollars instead of siphoning them off. I guess the trick will be to cut Unc Sam in on the party, because as long as legalization is a state initiative the states get all of that new revenue.

Does anybody here live in CO or WA? I'm curious how recreational marijuana is priced and how much of the price is taxes.

I live in WA. Recreational mj isn't for sale yet, and probably won't be for nearly a year. Production is broken down into three tiers; production, processing, and retail. Each tier will need permits, and the product will be taxed at each level. If they aren't careful, black market mj will continue to be a thriving industry. The medical industry manages to keep the price at about $10 per gram (not including extracts and edibles).

They are putting a cap on production and are just about finished estimating demand. Their outcome assumes each dope smoker consumes about 123 joints per year.

Ale

33  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC] Shadowrun Returns (official review on Page 3) on: September 26, 2013, 11:03:54 PM
For some reason I thought Kickstarters got the tablet version included. Maybe that was just for higher tiers.

Ale
34  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Marijuana. Just watched a documentary. on: September 20, 2013, 06:54:04 PM
That's just to counteract the CBD and ensure you stay productive.
35  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Marijuana. Just watched a documentary. on: September 20, 2013, 06:30:30 PM
Arclight, I assume you live in a state with marijuana dispensaries. If so, when you get a recommendation from your doctor (or any doctor), go to the dispensary and lay out everything you've got going on and what results you'd like to see. If it's a good dispensary, they should be able to recommend a product best suited to your condition and desires. I haven't really heard of doctors being involved beyond the recommendation, as far as dosage, etc., goes.

Tinctures and edibles are also a good alternative to smoking.

Ale
36  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: September 18, 2013, 01:10:45 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on September 16, 2013, 10:06:54 AM



He never should have made his 'don't cross this line' bullshit to begin with.     That is the problem.   

You don't really understand foreign policy at all, do you?
37  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [News] Shooting at the Navy Yard on: September 18, 2013, 12:58:22 AM

Quote from: metallicorphan on September 17, 2013, 06:15:21 PM

The news report i saw said that Washington D.C. isn't really a big city(which is rich coming from a UK news report),but its listed as the 24th biggest city in the U.S with 630k population so perhaps the news reporter was just going off the usual cities like New York or L.A. but anyhow from what he said, I suddenly remembered the Washington Sniper case about 10 years ago(That was DC as well and not State,right?)

sad story anyway



Yep, the sniper was in D.C, but they did actually live in Washington State (my city even).

Ale
38  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: September 14, 2013, 06:59:28 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on September 14, 2013, 06:47:07 PM

Quote from: hepcat on September 12, 2013, 01:30:02 PM

I'm fairly confident we would've lost just as much face had we gone any other route.  If anything, this may be the start of a restorative process for the US in the realm of foreign diplomacy.

Really?   Making a threat of if you cross this line (using chemical weapons) we will take action, and then we don't take action and really don't do anything at all is going to restore things?    Highly doubtful, it will just make people laugh at anything we say we are going to do in the future.

Some people are going to laugh no matter what we do, and there is no contenting them. You should be familiar with that. To think any of the other presidential hopefuls would have handled it any better is ludicrous.
39  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Is our children learning? on: September 13, 2013, 10:47:24 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on September 13, 2013, 08:17:51 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on September 13, 2013, 08:09:31 PM

Quote from: naednek on September 13, 2013, 06:09:41 PM

"Hey class, this is what science believes and why, now here are some other beliefs/ideas that other people have and why."   From there depending on the teacher and more than likely they probably don't believe in creationism, you can explain/teach why they believe science is right.  But at least your teaching students different view points not for the sake of right and wrong, but because you know what, people in the world have different views on the same topic, whether you deem it right or wrong and it's always good to understand people's viewpoints.   [/color]


That isn't the point of a science class. And saying "This is what science believes" makes it sound like the other viewpoints may be valid.


Ale

+1

What naednek is describing might be a class, but it's not a science class.

It'd be perfect for a cultural anthropology class studying various creation myths. In fact, I think I had a class just like that.

40  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Is our children learning? on: September 13, 2013, 08:09:31 PM

Quote from: naednek on September 13, 2013, 06:09:41 PM

"Hey class, this is what science believes and why, now here are some other beliefs/ideas that other people have and why."   From there depending on the teacher and more than likely they probably don't believe in creationism, you can explain/teach why they believe science is right.  But at least your teaching students different view points not for the sake of right and wrong, but because you know what, people in the world have different views on the same topic, whether you deem it right or wrong and it's always good to understand people's viewpoints.   [/color]


That isn't the point of a science class. And saying "This is what science believes" makes it sound like the other viewpoints may be valid.


Ale
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