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14681  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The 360 Killed the previous Generation on: September 13, 2006, 10:46:02 AM

Quote from: Graham on September 13, 2006, 12:18:04 AM

ATB, you are still in the "honeymoon" stage of your PS2 days.  If you had all the systems, I believe you'd think differently.  It's hard to go to the PS2 after playing the Xbox 360.  Not to mention that the Xbox 360 wireless controllers are so good that I don't want to get out the PS2 wired controllers.  Not to mention the Xbox Live experience and the achievements.  If I can play something on my own free time, I go for the Xbox 360.

Bah! I'm not in the honeymoon stage anymore. I reserve that for my precious....my DS (oh how I love you Polar White).

Your last sentence is the one I'll focus on.  Purge makes many good points, obviously, and mentions multi-platform games as well to good effect.  However-

It seems that we're missing a key factor here: does the 360 prevent you from wanting to play great games on different systems?

For example: One of the first games I played on the PS2 was Chrono Trigger.  Now, I could easily make the assertion that the PS2/XBOX effectively killed alll previous gaming generations. However, Chrono Trigger as a gameplay experience and story far surpasses much of any generation.   I did the same thing for MGS1. Oh and Shadow Hearts, and Devil May Cry...

Why are so many people chomping at the bit to get the virtual arcade on the Wii if previous gens are no longer playable?  Are any of you 360 owners even interested in the Wii? It's not exactly 'next gen' on the graphics front.

What about other classic games? There are no game points in those! You mean to tell me you'll never go back to play any of the Zeldas, Marios, Fallouts, Jagged Alliances, Warcrafts, Starcrafts, Mike Tyson Punchouts, Kid Icaruses, etc because of the 360? 

So the 360 has basically shut the door on every game ever made prior to the 360s release?  I find that claim very hard to believe.

Someday I'll probably have a 360-  If I haven't played through my backlog, I don't see how it's possible for me not be able to go back to the PS2/DS. But then again, maybe I'm missing the point.
14682  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Skin Forum? on: September 13, 2006, 10:32:53 AM
Now if that isn't an overreaching conclusion I don't know what is.
14683  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: "You have already made a post." on: September 13, 2006, 10:30:07 AM
Well now it's affecting me! I must have gotten it 1/2 dozen times yesterday. I demand compensation!
14684  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New 9/11 Footage on: September 13, 2006, 10:28:38 AM
wow. that's the clearest footage of the event that I have seen.  Anticipating what was to come made it all the more difficult.

zounds.
14685  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo DS 9/11-9/12 releases. on: September 13, 2006, 08:09:41 AM
No Mario Hoops for me frown
14686  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: BBs New Rewardzone Benefit Point Structure? on: September 12, 2006, 08:14:24 PM

Quote from: Laner on September 12, 2006, 07:02:48 PM

Quote from: JLu on September 12, 2006, 06:31:54 PM

I actually paid my $9.95 back in May.  I'm ahead of the game but I am annoyed that the reward certificates come in $5 increment coupons which I was told you can only use one at a time, and only for items over $10.  (I'd rather hoped I could've combined the 3 I had for a CD or something)
You can't use more than one at a time?  That certainly wasn't the case with the old plan... I've used $200 worth of reward zone coupons at a time.

That's the first I've heard of it too. I've got a bunch saved up for my impending Wii purchase...
14687  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBox vs PS2 on: September 12, 2006, 06:53:33 PM
PS2 hands down.

I had the Xbox for 4 years before getting one and it's great. However, the PS2 has a far better selection of all types of games and is still being supported with many blockbuster releases still due out.

MS has abandoned the xbox like Arkon is abandoning pants sizes.
14688  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Rocket to the Sun - These Actors Need to go on: September 12, 2006, 03:48:52 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on September 12, 2006, 03:40:12 PM

Denzel Washington:  He just annoys me.

 disgust

Pistols. At dawn, sir!

 disgust
14689  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo DS 9/11-9/12 releases. on: September 12, 2006, 03:47:25 PM
Right now Mario Hoops is getting killed. 73% on game rankings...true it's based on only a few sites, but man!?
14690  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Playstation 4 won't have a physical disc drive? on: September 12, 2006, 03:45:52 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on September 12, 2006, 03:41:33 PM

PS4 won't have a physical disc drive, or anything else for that matter, 'cause Sony abandons the market after the PS3 crashes and burns.

But the PS3 is gonna win this generation!  icon_wink I kid. I kid...because I love.

Anyhoo-  If the PS3 does live 10 years and there is a PS4, I don't think a non-physical drive is going to be that big of a deal.  It has been said that Bluray and HD-DVD is the last format war...the thinking being that everything will go digital.  Why wouldn't gaming follow suit?
14691  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / BBs New Rewardzone Benefit Point Structure? on: September 12, 2006, 03:20:51 PM
Any reward zone members out there?  Is the new structure better or worse?

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With one point for nearly every one dollar spent as a Reward Zone program member, it's easier than ever to keep track of your rewards.

Eligible Purchase Points Reward Certificates
$250 250 $5
$500 500 $10
$750 750 $15
$1,000 1,000 $20
$1,250 1,250 $25
$1,500 1,500 $30
$1,750 1,750 $35
$2,000 2,000 $40
$2,250 2,250 $45
$2,500 2,500 $50
 

You now get $5.00 for every 250.00 you spend or 2% back.  Previously, as best as I can tell (math is my achilles heel), it was better...but I can't get my head around the math as I can't remember what the point to dollar values used to be...

Thoughts?
14692  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Skin Forum? on: September 12, 2006, 03:06:26 PM
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Mytocles

is a girl?  eek

Uh. Since when? slywink

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Don't click it. Is that really hard?

You'd be surprised how difficult it is to stay out of those threads. 
14693  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Rocket to the Sun - These Actors Need to go on: September 12, 2006, 03:03:39 PM
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Martin Short - You ceased being funny when you ceased to be Ed Grimley. 

Apparently the Broadway (?) show he wrote and stars in is hilarious.

Paris Hilton technically qualifies, though I'd prefer if she was strapped to the launch pad beneath the booster rocket.

Eva Longoria- I've never seen her in anything but she annoys the crap out of me.

Michael Madsen - NO MORE VOICE WORK!

Beyonce - She's in some movie coming out. Overexposed.

Clive Owen- So overrated. Every one loves him for some reason. But he's not a good actor and he's not as cool as everyone says he is.  Ok ok. I'm kidding. He may be the coolest guy on the planet and the guy can act like nobody's business.  icon_smile


14694  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Weight tracking, feel free to join in! on: September 12, 2006, 02:57:48 PM
My breakfast today at 9:30 AM: 4 pieces of green pepper deep dish pizza from Dominos. Chips, goldfish, grapes and a Mt. Dew....

For...um.. dessert (for breakfast!?) I ate a large star crunch...  followed almost immediately by 3 TUMS.

So basically I had my daily intake of calories prior to 10 AM....and it was all crap (though pizza isn't that bad).

Fortunately, I ran 10.4 miles this morning so the calories aren't going to have that great of an impact as long as I go light the rest of the day and eat cereal for dinner.

Oh...I had two pieces of toast and a banana prior to the run...and an energy gel during.

Gah. Not my best day...and it's 11 AM!  retard
14695  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me pick a portable console system on: September 12, 2006, 01:04:08 PM
Yeppirs. Remember: take your time and clean the screen really well prior to application.
14696  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The 360 Killed the previous Generation on: September 12, 2006, 01:02:12 PM

Quote from: Purge on September 12, 2006, 02:51:44 AM


saywhat 1st gen Ps2 games were not even CLOSE to the quality that the 360 games are.

Irrelevant.  The point of the thread is that the PS2 Generation is 'dead' because of the shiny new graphics charged 360.  I countered saying that the releases for the PS2 in the next six months are at least is strong if not stronger than that of the 360. 

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The cross-platform games delivered to the PS2 are generally cut down. For instance, some of the Tom Clancy titles (R6 IIRC) couldn't have working doors with the size of it.

Again, irrelevent. Sure the technical capability of the PS2 and even the XBOX is well behind the 360, but I see lots of classic cars still on the road and they're no less marvelous because of the technology incorporated into modern ones.  And they're not 'OMG DEAD. KILLT!' 

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So in terms of quality, the PS2 is lagging behind the xbox1, which is behind the 360.

Quality of processor? Quality of workmanship? Quality of Games? No, just technologically.  I've not read nor heard about any game on the 360 comparing to any of the blockbuster classics on the PS2.  Not even a whisper. Sure 360 is in it's first year so there's no chance of that happening though progress will hopefully be made with some of the larger releases due within the next six months.  This fact should also preclude hyperbolic statements like the previous gen being dead from being made also.

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There is a fluidity in the 360 implementation. The Live integration, achievement points and the marketplace all have wormed their way into the hearts of gamers. Having demos available for free (silver requires no cost) means that ANY 360 owner can reap the benefits of online gameplay.

And that's fine.  I definitely applaud MS' implementation of the online features for the 360. No doubt it's brilliant (with some flaws to still be worked out). However, there are still far more SP gamers than MP gamers (and don't ask me for a source cause I don't have one- I think it's indisputable though).  I would bet this is even true of those with a 360. 
14697  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Weight tracking, feel free to join in! on: September 12, 2006, 01:08:37 AM

Quote from: Kobra on September 11, 2006, 08:18:03 PM


Although I doubt I can match ATB's losses, he's really workin' it.

I'm guessing you mean Arkon. Only thing I'm really working is the mileage I'm running. I'm hoping to do over 40 miles this week.
14698  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me pick a portable console system on: September 11, 2006, 06:21:58 PM
I hope you made sure there were no dead pixels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14699  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Skin Forum? on: September 11, 2006, 04:41:48 PM
At BC they have a separate user group only forum for stuff like Sunday Skin and other NSFW stuff. Any chance of getting one of those here? It's like a landmine sitting there waiting me for to click on...and I have regrettably.
14700  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Weight tracking, feel free to join in! on: September 11, 2006, 04:39:11 PM

Quote from: warning on September 11, 2006, 02:12:54 PM

238 this morning.  That's 9 pounds down from my recent high of 247 and 14 pounds down from my all-time high of 252 which I hit a year ago.

This is also good news.  Everyone is kicking butt. woohoo!
14701  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Weight tracking, feel free to join in! on: September 11, 2006, 04:38:23 PM

Quote from: Kobra on September 10, 2006, 01:57:58 AM

I will update again soon, this "Pneumonia" bullshit I have now has put any potential diet on the back burner until I fully recover.  Not to mention, I am on Levaquin, which drastically increases chances of broken bones, ripped tendons and what not, so my exercise has ceased.

But if you're reallly that sick, hopefully you won't be eating much anyway!   Tongue Speaking of, anyone want to infect me with stomach flu  icon_twisted
14702  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Weight tracking, feel free to join in! on: September 11, 2006, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: Arkon on September 11, 2006, 11:17:52 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on September 11, 2006, 11:09:46 AM

Quote from: Arkon on September 11, 2006, 10:42:43 AM

9/11/06 - 253.0 lbs

Good weekend, Arkon!

Thanks, although it was a bit of a shock to me.  My legs were pretty sore and so I took off from walking, although I ate a bit better than usual.  I will be happy when I hit 249 as I haven't been under 250 in about 4 years.

Definitely take the time to heal and recover. Don't over do it especially since you're kicking so much butt right now. 
14703  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Your website of choice for Release Dates? on: September 11, 2006, 04:35:54 PM
Funny, but I haven't really tracked release dates since my pc days. Unless a game that I'm dying to get is coming out I don't really pay attention. As that doesn't usually happen much anymore due to my Cheap Ass tendencies, I don't track release dates much at all. Last one I cared about was the DSL.

I'm sure I'm in the minority though.
14704  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo DS 9/11-9/12 releases. on: September 11, 2006, 04:33:53 PM

Quote from: fyedaddy on September 11, 2006, 04:12:18 PM

Quote from: The Grue on September 11, 2006, 12:10:35 PM

Harvest Moon never gets good reviews, so you shouldn't base your decision on that.  I think AWL has gotten some of the best reviews for an HM game and it is considered to be one of the worst HM games by fans.

I'm taking a hard look at HM DS but the recent previews have me taking a step back. The previews are bashing poor stylus control as their main complaint. Any news on this?

Your avatar is so money.
14705  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The 360 Killed the previous Generation on: September 11, 2006, 04:32:43 PM

Quote from: jblank on September 11, 2006, 03:35:12 PM

Quote from: ATB on September 11, 2006, 02:46:09 PM

Got the PS2 in March. It has made me not desire a 360 in the least. TEHO.

Congrats, you are the newest member of a very small minority of gamers.

Oh and let's compare sales numbers of PS2 and 360. You tell me who's really in the minority.
14706  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The 360 Killed the previous Generation on: September 11, 2006, 04:31:54 PM
Of those, all but one has sold their previous console and the lone holdout is a Gran Turismo 4 addict that keeps
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his PS2 just for that game.

Foolish mistake in my opinion. There are some blockbuster releases due out before the end of this year for the PS2.  The games for the 360 cannot be better from a perspective of story, pacing, gameplay and writing than these PS2 releases...so the people you're talking about must all be about the graphics.

Wombat on CAG has a great point in one of the Cagcasts. The games coming out for 360 wouldn't be getting hardly any of the pub or buzz if they were coming out for any other system. However, because 360 is the new kid there's a disproportionate raving about anything that's even half-way good on that system.

14707  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: SUV sales TANKING big. on: September 11, 2006, 03:30:58 PM
NO ONE needs an SUV except maybe forest rangers.

Mini-vans are far more practical and get better gas mileage.

My californian neighbors have an H2.  They have 2 kids.  Reverse hippies!

I won't mourn the death of the SUV should it come. I never saw the point.
14708  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (9/11) on: September 11, 2006, 03:27:27 PM
Hoops 3 on 3 for sure. Just don't know if it'll be this week.
14709  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Post a Pic of Yourself! on: September 11, 2006, 02:47:46 PM

Quote from: DonD on September 11, 2006, 02:09:49 PM

This was taken yesterday at the NYC Century ride.


How'd it go?
14710  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The 360 Killed the previous Generation on: September 11, 2006, 02:46:09 PM
Got the PS2 in March. It has made me not desire a 360 in the least. TEHO.
14711  Gaming / Analog Gaming / Re: EVERYONE READ!!!! IMPORTANT!!!! PASS THE WORD!!!!!!!!!!! on: September 11, 2006, 12:20:23 PM
I actually haven't been ghost bumping anything.

IIRC, this one was still on the first page and I found it odd that:

A. It was
B. It had no responses
C. There had been no updates  icon_wink


Glad to add some fun to your day.
14712  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo DS 9/11-9/12 releases. on: September 11, 2006, 12:16:54 PM
Mario Hoops!  Probably not this week though.
14713  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Earth Quake here in Florida on: September 11, 2006, 12:43:52 AM

Quote from: Kobra on September 10, 2006, 11:16:09 PM

Get out of Florida, that place is doomed after what they did during the 2000 election, and what we've endured since.   Doomed I tell you.

That's fine. But it has to be postponed until after January of this year when we are planning a trip to disney world.
14714  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me pick a portable console system on: September 11, 2006, 12:42:20 AM

Quote from: Xmann on September 10, 2006, 11:08:16 PM

i didnt see the BB or Circuit City deals.  i guess my question is where typically does everyone have the most luck with deals on the DS?

I actually have purchased quite a few DS games on ebay, both used and new.  It's been a great boon to my cheap mentality
14715  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me pick a portable console system on: September 10, 2006, 09:42:17 PM

Quote from: Xmann on September 10, 2006, 07:14:06 PM

is there a good place that sells DS games cheap?  wal mart, target, toys r us?

I posted a place a few posts up. 2 4 1 at BB.com.

14716  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me pick a portable console system on: September 10, 2006, 06:53:53 PM

Quote from: Misguided on September 10, 2006, 02:20:17 AM

Quote from: Tebunker on September 10, 2006, 01:33:43 AM

Xmann, if you haven't decided where to buy your new DS lite yet, My wife mentioned me selling hers tonight. I'd be willing to sell it for $95 bucks or so(that's enough savings to afford a whole game!). Just let me know. It lightly used and in great condition.

Good price.

As an aside (and not to sound like a shill) but GS/EB has a promotion where you can trade in a white DSLite and get coral or onyx for 49.95 if anyone just has to have one of the new colors

What an absolute scam job.  I am starting to hate GS/EB beyond what is comfortable.
14717  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Okami? on: September 10, 2006, 04:31:02 PM

Quote from: Calvin on September 10, 2006, 02:15:29 AM

I dunno..Hetz? Hetz really likes the games though, he just doesn't give them as much time as you would think given his hype. Mytocles maybe? She hyped it up like crazy and didnt play it that much in the end.

And the game I was thinking of for TML was Gal Civ 2, which he hyped himself into buying and then hated. GG!

It was Hetz.  Yes Hetz. Where'd  he go? Or am I not paying enough attention?
14718  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Now it's an HDMI Sound Issue on: September 10, 2006, 04:27:45 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on September 10, 2006, 03:33:14 PM

Quote from: ATB on September 10, 2006, 01:19:47 PM

Well, if there's an HDMI input doesn't that mean that it should?

Also, your receiver only has two optical inputs, but does it have any digital coax inputs (usually color coded orange)?  If so, and your DVD player has the digital coax output, use that in place of the optical port, freeing up that second optical port for a console.  There isn't any difference in quality between optical and digital coax, so nothing lost. 

I'ma have to check that out.  Have I told you that you're my favorite GTer?  icon_smile
14719  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Now it's an HDMI Sound Issue on: September 10, 2006, 01:19:47 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on September 10, 2006, 01:27:29 AM

Quote from: ATB on September 10, 2006, 01:20:07 AM

Actually, now I'm trying to push the sound through the HDMI cable to the tv and from the tv to the tuner via optical...nothing's easy.

Is there a reason why you can not just have the optical go straight from the DVD player to the tuner?

Well, there's only 2 optical inputs on my tuner. So if I could route all sound (dvd and tv) through one opt from the cable to the tv, I'll be better off as right now I only get digital sound from the dvd player and whichever console is plugged in.

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What Ralph said.  It seems like your TV can't decode the sound portion of an HDMi signal. 

Well, if there's an HDMI input doesn't that mean that it should?

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did you flash the firmware?  I believe there was an issue with DTS sound that required the firmware upgrade.

This shall be my last resort.
14720  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 box art on: September 10, 2006, 01:25:21 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on September 09, 2006, 09:24:10 PM

I still can't believe they are using the Spiderman 2 font as their official font. 

Good for spiderman. Bad for this.
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