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« on: August 29, 2014, 04:34:39 PM »

Well, this is unlike Nintendo.  New versions of the 3DS and XL have been announced in Japan but this time they are not just cosmetic upgrades.  The new versions include a second analogue stick, an improved processor, and at-least one exclusive game in the form of Xenoblade Chronicles.

I'm actually very surprised by this, since in the past, Nintendo has gone out of its way to ensure that hardware redesigns do not invalidate the previous releases.  That said, I'm extremely excited for this upgrade.  Maybe I will finally be able to play and finish Kid Icarus...

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better 3D
second stick
NFC built-in
coloured buttons
more buttons
better battery (up to 7h)
now compatible with microSDCard
you can back up data on your PC via wireless.
browser improved, now works with HTML5
CPU improved, makes browsing Miiverse / eShop much faster.
you can switch designs now (covers)
4.88 inch screen 3DS LL
3.88 inch screen 3DS OG
ABXY Buttons color coded

There is also some speculation/rumors that, with the inclusion of the new buttons, the new models will function in conjunction with the WiiU.  Basically giving the option of an extra game pad for WiiU games that supports it.  While definitely just a rumor at the moment, if that is true, it will be huge.
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 05:45:05 PM »

What the heck, why not just wait and make a new thing so that all games made for it can take full advantage of it's new features?
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2014, 06:51:46 PM »

It took two years for the 3DS to gain speed, abandoning it already would cause a riot.

Besides, while the new processor is better, I do not believe it’s enough of an improvement to constitute a whole new generation.  The other improvements, 2nd analogue stick notwithstanding, are not going to make much of a difference for games.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2014, 09:15:11 PM »

Even with this I feel like rioting a bit. ; )

I mean, there have been some really awesome 3DS games, but overall I'm disappointed with the pace of good releases coming out. It just feels like we're so far from the onslaught of great games we had with the last few Nintendo handhelds. I'd rather see them squeeze more life out of the current platform until it's time for a whole new one, rather than this mini-upgrade. The more games take advantage of the upgrades, the more I'll be grumpy about needing to upgrade.  <cantfindthecolbertsmiley>
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2014, 09:59:37 PM »

I swear, Nintendo has the worst marketing department on the planet. This is even worse than the name "Wii U". I'm sure there won't be any confusion at all when games that can't be played on the 3DS and 2DS but can be played on the "New 3DS" come out.

What I really want to know is what happens to all of your games if you upgrade? Aren't Nintendo accounts tied to the physical hardware?
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2014, 10:10:22 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on August 29, 2014, 09:59:37 PM

What I really want to know is what happens to all of your games if you upgrade? Aren't Nintendo accounts tied to the physical hardware?
You’ve always been able to do a system transfer from one device to another.  You activate the transfer and once the system verifies the data on the new system, all data on the old is deleted.  It is the worst possible way of keeping your data but it does work.  The fact that the new functionality is the ability to backup to PC makes me wonder if they finally improving this.  The new network ID's already keep track of the games you own so the fact that it is not consistent with PSN or Steam is just stubbornness on their part.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2014, 12:05:36 AM »

Being able to play Xenoblade Chronicles on a handheld is almost worth it by itself.  I just bought my first 3DS XL last holiday season.  I guess I could give that one to my kids if I pick up the new one.  It depends on how much it is.  We have time though.  We probably won't see it in NA until 2015.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2014, 08:24:07 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on August 29, 2014, 09:59:37 PM

I swear, Nintendo has the worst marketing department on the planet. This is even worse than the name "Wii U". I'm sure there won't be any confusion at all when games that can't be played on the 3DS and 2DS but can be played on the "New 3DS" come out.

I agree. As one of my mottoes goes:

"The average person is a complete idiot."

This is going to bomb and going to bomb hard. Either consumers will never understand what the difference between the 3DS and the New 3DS are (especially on game purchases), or the people themselves will rebel over this 'new and improved' version and drop Nintendo.

They are not Apple. They can't pull a 'new and improved' device every year like they do.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2014, 09:55:33 PM »

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This is going to bomb and going to bomb hard.
My guess is that they will recall the old models in stores and start to only sell the new ones similarly to what they did with the non-premium WiiU’s.  The original press release really only noted that the eShop and browser would benefit from the extra processor power anyways.  Xenoblade Chronicles is likely to be an anomaly instead of the norm since developers will not want to limit their install base.  In that way, it will be an upgrade that is nice to have instead of something that is mandatory.

As someone who purchased the original 3DS on launch, but not the XL, I am very happy to pick this upgrade up once it comes out.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2014, 03:21:25 AM »

Quote from: Lordnine on August 30, 2014, 09:55:33 PM

Xenoblade Chronicles is likely to be an anomaly instead of the norm since developers will not want to limit their install base.  In that way, it will be an upgrade that is nice to have instead of something that is mandatory.

Except now developers not only have more system power to use, but a second analog stick built in, AND an extra pair of L and R buttons.

So either all the functions will get used, and alienate the old users, or none of the functions will get used, because the install base won't have the consoles.

This is EXACTLY like Kinect on the XB1 and 360. Not everybody will have one, so NOBODY will make a game that requires it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2014, 04:56:13 AM »

Quote from: Destructor on September 01, 2014, 03:21:25 AM

Quote from: Lordnine on August 30, 2014, 09:55:33 PM

Xenoblade Chronicles is likely to be an anomaly instead of the norm since developers will not want to limit their install base.  In that way, it will be an upgrade that is nice to have instead of something that is mandatory.

Except now developers not only have more system power to use, but a second analog stick built in, AND an extra pair of L and R buttons.

So either all the functions will get used, and alienate the old users, or none of the functions will get used, because the install base won't have the consoles.

This is EXACTLY like Kinect on the XB1 and 360. Not everybody will have one, so NOBODY will make a game that requires it.
I would hope we see things similar to Resident Evil on the 3DS, which had multiple control scheme options you could use in the option menu.  One of which supported the 2nd analogue stick attachment.

The base 3DS also already has multiple graphics settings (in a sense) when you consider many games drop in frame rate if you try to play with 3D enabled.  The new processor may just mean that you will be able to leave the 3D on AND keep your smooth frame rate.

PC’s have multiple control and graphics options, why shouldn’t console games?
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2014, 10:04:24 AM »

Better processor but the same sh!tty screen resolution.  thumbsdown
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2014, 08:42:26 PM »

Quote from: Dante Rising on September 01, 2014, 10:04:24 AM

Better processor but the same sh!tty screen resolution.  thumbsdown

Super low rez. Love the system but yep.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2014, 08:58:23 PM »

Quote from: Destructor on August 30, 2014, 08:24:07 PM

This is going to bomb and going to bomb hard. Either consumers will never understand what the difference between the 3DS and the New 3DS are (especially on game purchases), or the people themselves will rebel over this 'new and improved' version and drop Nintendo.

It's kind of interesting actually, because this new 3DS model gives credence to Nintendo's very recent claims that they're going to stop focusing on casual players, considering them lost to cell phones and tablets. I don't think they're releasing this to sell to their traditional DS market, but are instead giving "hardcore" Nintendo fans something to play with. It's pointing towards a new direction for Nintendo, and one that could be very good for the kind of people who, well, frequent this kind of forum. slywink

So in other words, I'm not so certain it's going to bomb. It's unlikely to sell in huge amounts to casual players, but it could lure in the core gamers while they're waiting for the next console release from Nintendo, and I suspect that this is Nintendo's intention. They probably don't expect to sell tens of millions of it.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2014, 07:56:49 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on September 01, 2014, 08:58:23 PM

It's kind of interesting actually, because this new 3DS model gives credence to Nintendo's very recent claims that they're going to stop focusing on casual players, considering them lost to cell phones and tablets.
That's an interesting thought.  Tighten up their demographic aim and concede the casuals to tablets/phones.  Sony has been succesfull in NA and Europe with that approach for the PS4.   
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2014, 02:03:36 PM »

I'm irrationally excited for this. I've played Xenoblade for about 200 hours and I'm probably going to go back to the well AGAIN for this. I hope there's new content included.
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