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« on: June 04, 2015, 06:18:01 PM »

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[Rick] Perry, 65, joins a long list of fellow Republican candidates that includes former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, former New York Gov. George Pataki and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham.

Those debates ought to be fun. 
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2015, 01:40:08 AM »

Who do you suppose the Kochs will choose? As I read it, Rubio is the leading establishment figure because the Bush name is poison, but Walker is also a contender. Admittedly, most of what I read is filtered through liberal press.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2015, 03:05:49 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2015, 11:00:17 PM »

 ^^ About sums it up, clown car FTL..
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2015, 02:35:22 PM »

Isn't Perry in the middle of a criminal case against him? Or did he get that to go away?
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2015, 06:23:21 PM »

You're thinking of Perry Mason.  He's always in the middle of a criminal case.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2015, 08:01:41 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on June 25, 2015, 02:35:22 PM

Isn't Perry in the middle of a criminal case against him? Or did he get that to go away?

The case is slowly grinding its way along.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2016, 04:09:18 AM »

Voting starts in a couple of weeks and right now it looks like this thing is Trump's to lose. The R Party seems to be tearing itself apart over whether it hates Trump or Cruz more, while the R voters seem to feel just the opposite. None of the establishment candidates have any traction yet, but three or four of them are vying for second place.

How's it going to shake out?
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2016, 12:35:35 AM »

Quote from: Ironrod on January 23, 2016, 04:09:18 AM

Voting starts in a couple of weeks and right now it looks like this thing is Trump's to lose. The R Party seems to be tearing itself apart over whether it hates Trump or Cruz more, while the R voters seem to feel just the opposite. None of the establishment candidates have any traction yet, but three or four of them are vying for second place.

How's it going to shake out?

I'm so...so..confused.  Even my hardcore uber-republican father-in-law can't pick between those two, and is instead choosing Rand Paul. He's never voted outside of the straight-ticket Republican side.   This is gonna be a very strange election cycle.   I'm mystified by Trump.  He doesn't have to tell the truth, and even when he's called out on his bullshit, his poll numbers only rise.  Are we being punked?  Is he a secret Democrat foil set to disrupt the R party so badly that the Dems win by default?  I can't otherwise explain his buffoonery.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2016, 09:45:03 PM »

I think it might be the first time that both the general democratic and republican parties agree on who they don't want to win. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2016, 10:02:41 PM »

They should put an empty podium up at the debate for the other candidates to talk to.  It worked for Clint Eastwood.
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2016, 11:42:28 PM »

If Bush, Kasich, Rubio, and Christie are the best that the sane wing could offer, I can sort of understand why so many Republicans have decided to go with crazy. Trump is entertaining enough that he just might go all the way.

I don't understand how so many people find him charismatic.
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2016, 07:14:05 PM »

Quote from: Ironrod on January 28, 2016, 11:42:28 PM

I don't understand how so many people find him charismatic.

It's been bugging me as well, but this recent Opinion article in the LA Times I found to be as good an explanation as any.  It's a bit high brow but I felt it was well written and well thought out.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-keizer-why-blue-collar-voters-like-trump-20160131-story.html
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2016, 11:33:20 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on February 01, 2016, 07:14:05 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on January 28, 2016, 11:42:28 PM

I don't understand how so many people find him charismatic.

It's been bugging me as well, but this recent Opinion article in the LA Times I found to be as good an explanation as any.  It's a bit high brow but I felt it was well written and well thought out.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-keizer-why-blue-collar-voters-like-trump-20160131-story.html

I find that analysis less convincing than the appeal of authoritarianism, which, although strongest among Republicans, also seduces significant numbers of independents and working-class Democrats. The tougher Trump talks, the more people love him. If you're mad as hell and you aren't going to take it anymore, you gravitate to the leader who reflects and reinforces your anger. This also explains why Bernie Sanders has a shot at defeating the Clinton machine, and why Sanders polls better against Trump than Clinton does. Sanders is the anti-authoritarian, but he's as angry as Trump is. 

Still doesn't explain Trump's charisma, though. Maybe his 4th-grade vocabulary makes him likable?  
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2016, 12:22:31 AM »

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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2016, 07:04:12 AM »

Rand Paul should have gone with blue. Wouldn't you just once like to see a political logo in, say, green and orange?

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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2016, 04:21:07 PM »

All you need is Carly or Cruz to drop out and you have a Bingo!
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