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« on: June 04, 2008, 01:18:56 PM »

It's getting kind of tricky to know what you can and can't say in France anymore. Pretty sad to see free speech in a supposedly 'enlightened' country take such a hit.

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Another Conviction for Brigitte Bardot

A Paris court on Tuesday found Brigitte Bardot, right, guilty of provoking discrimination and racial hatred for writing that Muslims are destroying France, The Associated Press reported. It was her fifth conviction for inciting racial hatred. Ms. Bardot, the film star turned animal rights campaigner, was also fined $23,325 and ordered to pay $1,555 to the French group Movement Against Racism and for Friendship of People. The group filed a lawsuit last year over a letter Ms. Bardot sent in December 2006 to Nicolas Sarkozy, then the interior minister and now the president of France. In that letter, published in her animal rights foundation’s journal, Ms. Bardot said that France was “tired of being led by the nose by this population that is destroying us, destroying our country by imposing its acts.” She was referring to the Muslim feast of Aid el-Kebir, which is celebrated by slaughtering sheep.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/arts/04arts-ANOTHERCONVI_BRF.html?ref=arts

I personally don't care what she said. She could that Jews, Muslims or Christians are destroying France. The abomination was that she was found guilty of saying it.
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2008, 02:36:04 PM »

It still amazes me that there is that level of racial hatred out there.  Why not just hate everyone equally? 
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2008, 02:44:29 PM »

I wasn't aware that Muslims were a race.

Good point.  Race or religion.  Honestly, why does anyone else care who/what anyone else looks like / worships?
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2008, 03:38:02 PM »

Quote from: Laner on June 04, 2008, 02:44:29 PM


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Now I am curious what Laner originally said...
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 03:48:49 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on June 04, 2008, 02:36:04 PM

It still amazes me that there is that level of racial hatred out there.  Why not just hate everyone equally? 

yeah, really.  I have better things to waste my hate on, like the Teletubbies.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2008, 03:52:11 PM »

Quote from: Moliere on June 04, 2008, 03:38:02 PM

Quote from: Laner on June 04, 2008, 02:44:29 PM


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Now I am curious what Laner originally said...

I caught it before the edit.  All he said was

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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2008, 03:55:20 PM »


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Ms. Bardot, the film star turned animal rights campaigner, was also fined $23,325 and ordered to pay $1,555 to the French group Movement Against Racism and for Friendship of People.

I finally realized the real reason they call it free speech.  icon_idea
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2008, 04:04:07 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on June 04, 2008, 03:52:11 PM

Quote from: Moliere on June 04, 2008, 03:38:02 PM

Quote from: Laner on June 04, 2008, 02:44:29 PM


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Now I am curious what Laner originally said...

I caught it before the edit.  All he said was

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I can't believe he said

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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2008, 04:06:34 PM »

Aww bloody hell.  It says "Quote" right next to "Modify"

Good point.  Race or religion.  Honestly, why does anyone else care who/what anyone else looks like / worships?

That's what I said.  I added it to Laners post.   First the DS Lite request in the Steals/deals forum, and now this?  What the hell is wrong with me today?!  Geeeze...
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2008, 04:10:42 PM »

If I understand things correctly, the French thought police laws aren't limited to race and/or religion.  I think you can get in trouble for saying negative things about sexual orientation.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2008, 04:22:09 PM »

Quote from: Laner on June 04, 2008, 02:44:29 PM

I wasn't aware that Muslims were a race.

Good point.  Race or religion.  Honestly, why does anyone else care who/what anyone else looks like / worships?

What's your opinion of the FLDS?
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2008, 04:36:28 PM »

Quote from: Laner on June 04, 2008, 02:44:29 PM

I wasn't aware that Muslims were a race.

Good point.  Race or religion.  Honestly, why does anyone else care who/what anyone else looks like / worships?

I begin to care when a religion seeks to incorporate it's rulebook into our government and public schools.
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2008, 04:51:24 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on June 04, 2008, 04:10:42 PM

If I understand things correctly, the French thought police laws aren't limited to race and/or religion.  I think you can get in trouble for saying negative things about sexual orientation.

That's gay.

What's more offensive, the fact that she's being censored from expressing her opinion, or Knightshade censoring Laner in a thread about censorship? slywink

Irony, you know no bounds.
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2008, 05:11:03 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on June 04, 2008, 04:22:09 PM

Quote from: Laner on June 04, 2008, 02:44:29 PM

I wasn't aware that Muslims were a race.

Good point.  Race or religion.  Honestly, why does anyone else care who/what anyone else looks like / worships?

What's your opinion of the FLDS?

I live in Phoenix.  There are plenty of them around.  I don't care about them any more or less than I do anyone else.  Religious folks just need to keep their distance.  I have about an 8' kicking radius, so 9' is safe.
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2008, 05:21:54 PM »

Quote from: Moliere on June 04, 2008, 03:38:02 PM

Quote from: Laner on June 04, 2008, 02:44:29 PM


« Last Edit: Today at 07:58:50 AM by Knightshade Dragon »
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Now I am curious what Laner originally said...
The first sentence was it.  KD needs to lay off the alcohol so early in the day slywink
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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 09:52:06 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on June 04, 2008, 04:10:42 PM

If I understand things correctly, the French thought police laws aren't limited to race and/or religion.  I think you can get in trouble for saying negative things about sexual orientation.

So if a religion says negative things about sexual orientation, do the French thought police enter a catatonic state?
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2008, 10:03:55 PM »

Quote from: Gwar21 on June 04, 2008, 09:52:06 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 04, 2008, 04:10:42 PM

If I understand things correctly, the French thought police laws aren't limited to race and/or religion.  I think you can get in trouble for saying negative things about sexual orientation.

So if a religion says negative things about sexual orientation, do the French thought police enter a catatonic state?

I'm pretty sure that's how they bring down HAL in the French version of 2001.
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2008, 12:50:26 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on June 04, 2008, 04:06:34 PM

Aww bloody hell.  It says "Quote" right next to "Modify"

Good point.  Race or religion.  Honestly, why does anyone else care who/what anyone else looks like / worships?

That's what I said.  I added it to Laners post.   First the DS Lite request in the Steals/deals forum, and now this?  What the hell is wrong with me today?!  Geeeze...

you're turning into Austin  eek
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