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« Reply #120 on: June 19, 2014, 07:38:59 PM »

Someone on Quartertothree described the whole thing thusly:

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Most of the folks who I've seen most ardently opposed to the name are super white folks who seem like they really, really, really want to be as totally un-racist as they possibly can be.

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Everything you just said right there is a good thing.

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« Reply #121 on: June 19, 2014, 08:04:57 PM »

Quote from: Zekester on June 19, 2014, 06:58:52 PM



we're not living in the 19th century anymore. no one has been using 'redskin' in a derogatory manner.


OK, you seriously must be trolling now. I really hope you are.

It's not that no one uses it in a derogatory manner anymore. It's that no one uses it any more, period, unless they are referring to the football team. Because if they used it in reference to Native Americans it would be extremely offensive.
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« Reply #122 on: June 19, 2014, 08:15:35 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on June 19, 2014, 08:04:57 PM

OK, you seriously must be trolling now. I really hope you are.

Is this at question?
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« Reply #123 on: June 19, 2014, 08:20:42 PM »

Quote from: Fireball on June 19, 2014, 08:15:35 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 19, 2014, 08:04:57 PM

OK, you seriously must be trolling now. I really hope you are.

Is this at question?

I think it's me slowly losing my mind.
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« Reply #124 on: June 19, 2014, 11:34:18 PM »

We've been long overdue for a good Zeke thread.   The guy is such an perfect parody of the uber-conservative, "evil libruls", "AMURICA FUCK YEAH!" stereotype that I can't help but laugh.  The fact he's dead serious about it makes it all the more funny.
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« Reply #125 on: June 19, 2014, 11:50:52 PM »

Rush is blaming the president apparently.
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« Reply #126 on: June 20, 2014, 01:16:57 AM »

Rush needs another trip to the Dominican Republic with a suitcase full of Viagra.
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« Reply #127 on: June 20, 2014, 04:48:55 AM »

According to my Facebook friends, the new argument is that Oklahoma means "red people," so we better change the state's name now too.
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« Reply #128 on: June 20, 2014, 05:11:29 AM »

I don't care about football. When I hear "redskins" I think of peanuts.
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« Reply #129 on: June 20, 2014, 08:50:03 AM »

Quote from: Lee on June 20, 2014, 04:48:55 AM

According to my Facebook friends, the new argument is that Oklahoma means "red people," so we better change the state's name now too.
Tell your friends that they don't need to change the name, then just lose their trademark rights to Oklahoma. smile
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« Reply #130 on: June 20, 2014, 11:01:48 AM »

Quote from: Ironrod on June 20, 2014, 05:11:29 AM

I don't care about football. When I hear "redskins" I think of peanuts.

Aren't you happy that you were reminded that it's a derogatory word? Closet racist bastard, you.
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« Reply #131 on: June 20, 2014, 11:05:58 AM »

Quote from: Lee on June 20, 2014, 04:48:55 AM

According to my Facebook friends, the new argument is that Oklahoma means "red people," so we better change the state's name now too.


Are they trolling, or are they misinterpreting other people's trolling as a sincere initiative?

I have a friend who misunderstands trolling all the time.  For example, something like this:

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While we are on the subject of how ‘offensive’ the name of the football team is, do we have to change the name of Oklahoma too to not ‘offend’ people? The name Oklahoma comes from the Choctaw phrase okla humma, which literally means red people. Obviously, this must be offensive.


This is really obvious trolling, but somehow it gets entered in his head as, "Wow, some people are trying to force Oklahoma to change its name!  These liberals are out of control!"  It's practically a weekly thing where he'll come around with some new outrage, and I'll have to methodically show him that it's completely fictional.

I recommend asking your friends to Google variations on "Oklahoma means red people" or "change name of Oklahoma" and see if they can find any examples of people who aren't knocking down strawmen.  If so, they're having more luck on the internet than I am.

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« Reply #132 on: June 20, 2014, 04:39:45 PM »

It's probably trolling sure. But having lived in the Midwest, working in an overwhelmingly conservative profession, I can tell you people honestly feel like Zeke and Rip. This whole thing is just liberal silliness to them.

And I am not getting involved in the FB crap. I have learned that it's pointless.
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« Reply #133 on: June 20, 2014, 04:46:07 PM »

Quote from: Lee on June 20, 2014, 04:39:45 PM

I have learned that it's pointless.

As opposed to arguing on a forum?   icon_wink
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« Reply #134 on: June 20, 2014, 05:03:10 PM »

Quote from: ATB on June 20, 2014, 04:46:07 PM

Quote from: Lee on June 20, 2014, 04:39:45 PM

I have learned that it's pointless.

As opposed to arguing on a forum?   icon_wink

Listen to ATB.  He speaks from years of experience.   icon_wink
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« Reply #135 on: June 20, 2014, 05:05:17 PM »

Quote from: ATB on June 20, 2014, 04:46:07 PM

Quote from: Lee on June 20, 2014, 04:39:45 PM

I have learned that it's pointless.

As opposed to arguing on a forum?   icon_wink

Yes, FB is much worse. Basically all the friends of my friend who I don't know jump in, and it gets worse than arguing with Zeke. It just results in one liners about how liberals are stupid and Obama is a Kenyan.
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« Reply #136 on: June 20, 2014, 05:47:40 PM »

The guy who I work with (who I started a thread about in this very forum regarding his son) is a facebook friend.  I was new to the company and figured "why not?" when he friended me.  I eventually ended up blocking his posts from appearing as facebook updates from friends when logging in as they are ALL about how evil Obama is.  ALL is not an exaggeration, by the way.

Today he's got a long diatribe about how this is an attack on the freedom of speech.   Roll Eyes

Seriously people, read the damn ruling and what it means before you start declaring that the sky is falling.
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« Reply #137 on: June 20, 2014, 06:14:56 PM »

Freedom of speech is the common rallying cry for the stupid.
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« Reply #138 on: June 20, 2014, 06:16:16 PM »



I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.
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« Reply #139 on: June 20, 2014, 09:32:49 PM »

What the hell does that have to do with the subject?

No one is showing me the door, so stop acting like elitist assholes. I know liberals get called that a lot, so do you really have to always live up to it on these forums?

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« Reply #140 on: June 20, 2014, 09:35:33 PM »

Some of you would love nothing more than to show the Redskins owner the door, as you would me here.

And you wonder why conservatives bring up free-speech concerns?

Fricken clueless backwards fools  icon_razz
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« Reply #141 on: June 20, 2014, 09:55:04 PM »

Quote from: Zekester on June 20, 2014, 09:32:49 PM

What the hell does that have to do with the subject?

Try reading other people's posts, then you might understand what it has to do with the subject.
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« Reply #142 on: June 20, 2014, 10:19:41 PM »

I absolutely love every word that comes out of Zeke's mouth.   icon_lol
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« Reply #143 on: June 20, 2014, 10:37:05 PM »

Quote from: Zekester on June 20, 2014, 09:35:33 PM

Some of you would love nothing more than to show the Redskins owner the door, as you would me here.

And you wonder why conservatives bring up free-speech concerns?

Fricken clueless backwards fools  icon_razz

Haha, way to exactly prove the point of that comic.
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« Reply #144 on: June 21, 2014, 02:03:48 AM »

Quote from: Zekester on June 20, 2014, 09:32:49 PM

What the hell does that have to do with the subject?

No one is showing me the door, so stop acting like elitist assholes. I know liberals get called that a lot, so do you really have to always live up to it on these forums?

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I don't think anyone will show you the door.  Somehow I think you'll find your way out on your own at some point.
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« Reply #145 on: June 21, 2014, 03:42:49 AM »

Yup.

But it won't be over this thread.
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« Reply #146 on: June 23, 2014, 05:26:24 PM »

If I owned the team I would just rename them.

Ladies and gentleman please welcome your Washington Coons.

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« Reply #148 on: June 23, 2014, 06:17:43 PM »

Oh come on now ATB, how can you say no to that cute little coon. do you hate animals? 
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« Reply #149 on: June 23, 2014, 07:55:31 PM »

When I wrote it earlier, it was meant as an example of how offensive the name Redskin could be to some. 

Try to guess how Rip meant it...
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« Reply #150 on: June 23, 2014, 08:21:42 PM »

Quote from: Rip on June 23, 2014, 05:26:24 PM

If I owned the team I would just rename them.

Ladies and gentleman please welcome your Washington Coons.


"I can't believe liberals are trying to paint 'Redskins' as a racist term!"

"I know, race has nothing to do with it!  Looney Leftists gets so riled up about everything.  Getting offended by simple words is so ridiculous, we should come up with a bunch of fake names to show that name-calling never hurt anyone!"

"Like 'The Washington ConservaTurds?'  Or 'RepubliCan'ts.'"

"No, I really hate those for some reason.  Let's pitch a bunch of thinly disguised racial slurs instead.  It's hilarious the way they get riled up when we insult minorities!"

"Hah!  Oh, on a totally unrelated note, are those "End the War on Christmas!" bumper stickers going to be ready in time for Black Friday?"

"Absolutely!  Gah, is there any form of hate speech more offensive than 'Happy Holidays?!'"

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« Reply #151 on: June 23, 2014, 11:57:44 PM »

Quote from: Rip on June 23, 2014, 05:26:24 PM

If I owned the team I would just rename them.

Ladies and gentleman please welcome your Washington Coons.



The Cleveland Browns better watch themselves.

Titans has the word tit in it.....sexist.

Chicago Bears could have a porno reference attached.

New England Patriots. Patriots?? Oh Good Lord....they're in trouble for sure.

is the word Chiefs allowed? maybe hepcat can take that one...he seems to be the self-proclaimed forum racism expert.

Buffalo Bills? why couldn't they be the Annie Oakleys instead?
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« Reply #152 on: June 24, 2014, 12:38:32 AM »

From now on, I'm going to start calling any willfully obtuse person I meet a Zeke.

"You know, we've tried having a discussion with that guy, but he just keeps repeating the same argument over and over.  Weird thing is, his argument doesn't make any sense to begin with."

"Eh, don't waste your time.  He's just a Zeke."
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« Reply #153 on: June 24, 2014, 01:08:30 AM »

You have to admit though, it's interesting to see what he'll write next.  The moment you think he can't possibly go further down the rabbit hole, he grabs a shovel and gleefully leaps in and begins searching for a new bottom.
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« Reply #154 on: June 24, 2014, 01:32:24 AM »

Zeke, do you feel like you understand what the actual issue at hand is?  Do you feel like your joke suggestions hit the issue at hand on the nose? 
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« Reply #155 on: June 24, 2014, 02:57:40 AM »

Quote from: Zekester on June 23, 2014, 11:57:44 PM

Quote from: Rip on June 23, 2014, 05:26:24 PM

If I owned the team I would just rename them.

Ladies and gentleman please welcome your Washington Coons.



The Cleveland Browns better watch themselves.

Titans has the word tit in it.....sexist.

Chicago Bears could have a porno reference attached.

New England Patriots. Patriots?? Oh Good Lord....they're in trouble for sure.

is the word Chiefs allowed? maybe hepcat can take that one...he seems to be the self-proclaimed forum racism expert.

Buffalo Bills? why couldn't they be the Annie Oakleys instead?


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« Reply #156 on: June 24, 2014, 04:36:43 AM »

What a silly world we live in.
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« Reply #157 on: June 24, 2014, 12:08:48 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on June 24, 2014, 01:32:24 AM

Zeke, do you feel like you understand what the actual issue at hand is?  Do you feel like your joke suggestions hit the issue at hand on the nose? 

on the nose? no. it's more like a whole body shot from a semi.

of course i'm taking the issue to the extremes, to show the total absurdity of it. some of you look at the world through PC glasses, and some of us don't. some of you say this has nothing to do with control, but that is the end game...otherwise you would just live and let live.

silly world, maybe. silly country, for sure.
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« Reply #158 on: June 24, 2014, 12:15:55 PM »

and hepcat.....who is the more racist? the one who goes through life enjoying a football game, regardless of their names? or seeing racism in everything?

some of you do realize that thousands of non-Indian people have gone years never once thinking of the Washington Redskins as insulting or Native Indians as less-than, but instead just rooting for their team.

Until now.

The small group of Indians, no doubt egged-on by their idiot lawyers who have their own agenda, who pursued a name change just look like uptight idiots. Is that the more positive image they were going for when starting all of this?  Roll Eyes
 
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« Reply #159 on: June 24, 2014, 12:24:07 PM »

So if I understand you right, the issue is about control?  Government control?  Control of the liberals?  Control over what?

And it's also looking like you think someone is saying that football fans of the Redskins team are being racist.  Who do you think is saying that?

And you also think that this is all brought on by greedy lawyers with their own hidden agenda?
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