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« on: September 25, 2008, 01:58:24 PM »

http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/this-is-why-mccain-canceled-debates.html

Watch the video below.  It's one thing to say she has nothing to say, it's another thing to see it in action.  According to her, we are waiting on John McCain to weigh in on issues, and nobody is waiting on Obama.  It's 5 minutes long and is very light on actual answers. 

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Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

Heartbeat away folks...heartbeat away...
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 02:08:49 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on September 25, 2008, 01:58:24 PM


Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.


Nice.  /shudder
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 02:27:48 PM »

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I'll try ta find ya some an' I'll bring 'em to ya.

Fixed. That Fargo accent is really getting on my nerves. Politicians are supposed to sound like Southern hicks.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 07:02:29 PM »

I love the excerpts that CBS keeps releasing.  The latest:

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COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? … Instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN: Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions.

Wait - what?  Health care reform?  Does anyone have any idea what she's referring to in the context of the bailout negotiations??

Also delightful:  you can see her looking at her notes while she answers the question.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 08:19:17 PM »

Palin receives prayer for protection from .... witchcraft?

MSNBC on same subject: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26880901/

Palin's own adviser warns her firing of brother in law raises grave concern

Palin = Pentacostal nutjob

More religious extremism

It's very evident the GOP is keeping this Young Earth Creationist holy-roller nut under tight wraps. Since being nominated she's been out-interviewed by Biden something like 30 to 1 ratio. They are clearly trying to suppress her extreme inexperience. (Biden has been a US Senator since '72, and is head of the Senate Foreign Relations committee. Palin got her passport for the first time 2 years ago). They are clearly trying to subvert the debates (Biden would annihilate and embarrass her). They are clearly trying to postpone and delay the Alaskan investigations into her unlawful firing of her sister's ex.

It really just drop-jaw amazes me that people think that this woman is ready to lead the U.S. Like Brendan said, one heartbeat away from taking the reins to the most powerful military on earth.

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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2008, 10:21:17 AM »

I stole this off of QT3-it's just so funny!

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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2008, 12:53:33 PM »

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Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

Dear god.  It's like they are acting out a P&RN thread.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2008, 01:21:30 PM »

For those looking for the reference for that picture above....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/palin-talks-russia-with-k_n_129318.html

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COURIC: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?


PALIN: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land-- boundary that we have with-- Canada. It-- it's funny that a comment like that was-- kind of made to-- cari-- I don't know, you know? Reporters--

COURIC: Mock?

PALIN: Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah.

COURIC: Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.

PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our-- our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia--

COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?

PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We-- we do-- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state.

This one time, I went to Tijuana and brought back a nice leather jacket.  I have foreign trade experience.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2008, 01:58:42 PM »

Quote from: Hiccup on September 26, 2008, 12:53:33 PM

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Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

Dear god.  It's like they are acting out a P&RN thread.

Seriously ... Republicans ... do you not see a serious, serious problem with the above exchange? The woman is clueless.

Bring on the VP debates. I can't freakin' wait.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2008, 02:06:31 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on September 26, 2008, 01:21:30 PM

This one time, I went to Tijuana and brought back a nice leather jacket.  I have foreign trade experience.

What's particularly galling about her response is that she's deprioritized Alaska's dealings with Russia, cutting funding for the existing diplomatic initiatives:

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Opportunities abound for Alaska governors to engage in Russian diplomacy, with the state host to several organizations focusing on Arctic issues. Anchorage is the seat of the Northern Forum, an 18-year-old organization that represents the leaders of regional governments in Russia, as well as Finland, Iceland and Canada, Japan, China and South Korea.

Yet under Palin, the state government — without consultation — reduced its annual financial support to the Northern Forum to $15,000 from $75,000, according to Priscilla Wohl, the group's executive director. That forced the forum's Anchorage office to go without pay for two months.

Palin — unlike the previous administrations of Gov. Frank Murkowski and Gov. Tony Knowles — also stopped sending representatives to Northern Forum's annual meetings, including one last year for regional governors held in the heart of Russia's oil territory.

"It was an opportunity for the Alaska governor to take a delegation of business leaders to the largest oil-producing region in Russia, and she would have been shaking hands with major leaders in Russia," Wohl said.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2008, 02:40:53 PM »

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Seriously ... Republicans ... do you not see a serious, serious problem with the above exchange? The woman is clueless.
They seem to be shockingly quiet and absent on this issue...

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Bring on the VP debates. I can't freakin' wait.
Oh no doubt. 

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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 03:31:46 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on September 26, 2008, 01:21:30 PM

This one time, I went to Tijuana and brought back a nice leather jacket.  I have foreign trade experience.

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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2008, 04:20:54 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on September 26, 2008, 02:40:53 PM

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Seriously ... Republicans ... do you not see a serious, serious problem with the above exchange? The woman is clueless.
They seem to be shockingly quiet and absent on this issue...

They know. I mean, they have to know, right? When high-ranking Republicans are commenting that McCain made a poor choice, you have to know something is very wrong.

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Bring on the VP debates. I can't freakin' wait.
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Oh no doubt. 



We should probably wait & see if the GOP doesn't use some crazy tactics to somehow get her out of the debates. I'm guessing that even if she does participate, she'll be heavily trained to avoid direct answers and just keep parroting the cliches she's been giving so far. I'm betting she'll basically just be a mindless cheerleader for the party.

Kind of like this:

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today!!! Go Republicans! Go McCain!! wooohoo!! yay team!
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2008, 06:31:38 PM »

Well, Joe Biden said FDR got on TV when the stock market crashed in 1929 and explained to the country what's going on, so Palin's not the only one who says dumb things.
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2008, 07:07:31 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on September 26, 2008, 06:31:38 PM

Well, Joe Biden said FDR got on TV when the stock market crashed in 1929 and explained to the country what's going on, so Palin's not the only one who says dumb things.

If Palin had done as many interviews as Biden at this point, I think she would win the foot in mouth contest by a long shot.  There is a reason why the McCain campaign is hiding her. 
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2008, 07:16:55 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on September 26, 2008, 06:31:38 PM

Well, Joe Biden said FDR got on TV when the stock market crashed in 1929 and explained to the country what's going on, so Palin's not the only one who says dumb things.

I'll grant ya that one.  That was dumb on several levels. smile
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2008, 07:19:29 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on September 26, 2008, 06:31:38 PM

...so Palin's not the only one who says dumb things.

That's a fact.

I think there is probably a distinction to be made between saying dumb things because of lack of thought or focus and saying dumb things because of being a dumbass whose out of their league.

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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2008, 07:21:39 PM »

Seriously this is a comedy that only Disney could come up with:

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2008, 07:22:48 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on September 26, 2008, 07:16:55 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on September 26, 2008, 06:31:38 PM

Well, Joe Biden said FDR got on TV when the stock market crashed in 1929 and explained to the country what's going on, so Palin's not the only one who says dumb things.

I'll grant ya that one.  That was dumb on several levels. smile

If FDR were alive today, Biden may even have asked him to stand up and retell his experience.
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2008, 08:10:35 PM »

Quote from: WalkingFumble on September 26, 2008, 07:07:31 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on September 26, 2008, 06:31:38 PM

Well, Joe Biden said FDR got on TV when the stock market crashed in 1929 and explained to the country what's going on, so Palin's not the only one who says dumb things.

If Palin had done as many interviews as Biden at this point, I think she would win the foot in mouth contest by a long shot.  There is a reason why the McCain campaign is hiding her. 

I don't know...Pailn still hasn't said anything quite like this Biden gem about Obama:  "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man."

As Forrest Gump would say, stupid is as stupid does.  And all political candidates say stupid shit.

Note: I'm not defending Palin.  Just pointing out that I think every politician has a case of foot-in-mouth disease.
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2008, 08:22:11 PM »

I'm really looking forward to the Biden/Palin debate.  That could be a gaff fest of epic proportions.  Both campaign managers will be sweating it out.
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2008, 08:36:12 PM »

Quote from: denoginizer on September 26, 2008, 08:22:11 PM

I'm really looking forward to the Biden/Palin debate.  That could be a gaff fest of epic proportions.  Both campaign managers will be sweating it out.

I wonder if the "winner" of that debate will be the person who says the least number of stupid things.
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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2008, 08:59:55 PM »

They're both idiots.  My favorite Biden video, btw:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q1z532U7hE

Around 1:10 is the best part.

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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2008, 10:34:06 PM »

I need to stop making fun of Canada.  At this rate I could wind up moving there.
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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2008, 11:02:49 PM »

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"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man."

i know this is an internet forum and were sort of loose with grammar but i have to believe this is a case of improper punctuation:

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American, who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man."

this means something much different - and if it isnt this - biden is a cardcarrying ignorant racist - and theres no way hed be on the ticket

its sort of the difference between, at the end of a date, hearing:

dont stop!
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dont! stop!
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« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2008, 11:33:37 PM »

Quote from: Doopri on September 26, 2008, 11:02:49 PM

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"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man."

i know this is an internet forum and were sort of loose with grammar but i have to believe this is a case of improper punctuation:

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American, who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man."

That's definitely better, but still pretty damn offensive. And by the way, with me it's always Don't Stop!  unibrow
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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2008, 12:24:17 AM »

There's only one thing left for all of us to do. Stand up for Chuck!
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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2008, 01:25:17 AM »

Quote from: VynlSol on September 26, 2008, 07:19:29 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on September 26, 2008, 06:31:38 PM

...so Palin's not the only one who says dumb things.

That's a fact.

I think there is probably a distinction to be made between saying dumb things because of lack of thought or focus and saying dumb things because of being a dumbass whose out of their league.



You win. There's a big difference between making a verbal gaffe, anyone is capable of that (except Chuck Norris) and not having a fucking clue what you're talking about.

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« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2008, 01:02:19 PM »

Watch this CNN Cafferty file video

As Cafferty states "If the fact that this woman is one 72 year old's heartbeat away from the Presidency doesn't scare the hell out of you, it should"

Viewer email: "Finally, politics has given us someone who makes GW Bush look like an intellectual."

Cafferty goes on to state that the Palin-Couric interview was the most pathetic thing he's seen in all his years of covering politics.

And the real question: WTF was John McCain thinking?



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« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2008, 01:50:48 PM »

Quote from: Jeff Jones on September 27, 2008, 01:02:19 PM

Watch this CNN Cafferty file video

As Cafferty states "If the fact that this woman is one 72 year old's heartbeat away from the Presidency doesn't scare the hell out of you, it should"

Viewer email: "Finally, politics has given us someone who makes GW Bush look like an intellectual."

Cafferty goes on to state that the Palin-Couric interview was the most pathetic thing he's seen in all his years of covering politics.

And the real question: WTF was John McCain thinking?

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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2008, 08:49:36 PM »

Number of interviews done since being nominated:

Biden  100

Palin      3

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« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2008, 09:01:33 PM »

Pick your remix:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WLhVGDy-ZXc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ0xySe0uRw&NR=1

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« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2008, 10:14:05 PM »

God, the phrase "heartbeat away from the Presidency" has been so utterly run into the ground. It's the "winning hearts and minds" "boots on the ground" "hanging chad" and "Ground Zero" of 2008. Ugh. I seriously want to punch somebody in the face every time they use that phrase.
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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2008, 10:21:49 PM »

Quote from: YellowKing on September 27, 2008, 10:14:05 PM

God, the phrase "heartbeat away from the Presidency" has been so utterly run into the ground. It's the "winning hearts and minds" "boots on the ground" "hanging chad" and "Ground Zero" of 2008. Ugh. I seriously want to punch somebody in the face every time they use that phrase.

Tell you what - how about Democrats give up the "heartbeat away fro the Presidency" line if Republicans give up the "maverick" line?  That's just as overused and silly by this point.
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« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2008, 11:01:39 PM »

Quote from: YellowKing on September 27, 2008, 10:14:05 PM

God, the phrase "heartbeat away from the Presidency" has been so utterly run into the ground. It's the "winning hearts and minds" "boots on the ground" "hanging chad" and "Ground Zero" of 2008. Ugh. I seriously want to punch somebody in the face every time they use that phrase.

I'll continue to use it as long as it's true of Sarah Palin. Our national security is on the line. McCain would be 76+ by the end of his first term, and it's a very real possibility that someone so utterly clueless could take over arguably the most powerful office on earth.

Is it the phrase itself that's really bothering you, YK, or something else? I'm guessing you'd like to see the focus taken off of Palin. I won't do that, personally. I think it says a lot about McCain's judgment that he chose her.
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2008, 12:04:58 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Jones on September 27, 2008, 11:01:39 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on September 27, 2008, 10:14:05 PM

God, the phrase "heartbeat away from the Presidency" has been so utterly run into the ground. It's the "winning hearts and minds" "boots on the ground" "hanging chad" and "Ground Zero" of 2008. Ugh. I seriously want to punch somebody in the face every time they use that phrase.

I'll continue to use it as long as it's true of Sarah Palin. Our national security is on the line. McCain would be 76+ by the end of his first term, and it's a very real possibility that someone so utterly clueless could take over arguably the most powerful office on earth.

Is it the phrase itself that's really bothering you, YK, or something else? I'm guessing you'd like to see the focus taken off of Palin. I won't do that, personally. I think it says a lot about McCain's judgment that he chose her.

Why?    Its just an obvious scare tactic with no real meaning, by that logic I can say that witch Nancy Pelosi is 2 heartbeats away from the presidency.   And her being president would scare me far far more then Palin ever would.
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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2008, 02:03:20 AM »

Quote from: brettmcd on September 28, 2008, 12:04:58 AM


Its just an obvious scare tactic with no real meaning,

You believe that? You seriously, with thoughtful reflection, came to that conclusion?

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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2008, 02:31:25 AM »

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Quote from: brettmcd on September 28, 2008, 12:04:58 AM


Its just an obvious scare tactic with no real meaning,

You believe that? You seriously, with thoughtful reflection, came to that conclusion?



Yes.
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« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2008, 02:47:45 AM »

Quote from: brettmcd on September 28, 2008, 02:31:25 AM

Quote from: VynlSol on September 28, 2008, 02:03:20 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on September 28, 2008, 12:04:58 AM


Its just an obvious scare tactic with no real meaning,

You believe that? You seriously, with thoughtful reflection, came to that conclusion?



Yes.

Of course you did.

Brett, let me ask you this ... do you believe Sarah Palin was the best choice John McCain could've made for VP of the United States?
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« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2008, 02:50:04 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Jones on September 28, 2008, 02:47:45 AM

Brett, let me ask you this ... do you believe Sarah Palin was the best choice John McCain could've made for VP of the United States?

You know the response here is just going to be some variation of "No i do not but it is just the vp job not the president."
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