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Author Topic: Oh and by the way, Posse Comitatus ends Wednesday  (Read 1029 times)
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« on: September 27, 2008, 04:19:48 PM »

You would think that a federal law which has largely been observed for 130 years would be given a little bit more of a celebratory sendoff, but just try to find this mentioned anywhere:

Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1

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Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.

But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

...The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.

Well, there goes a little piece of history.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 05:30:20 PM »

just in time for the election....
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 07:09:05 PM »

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

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HR5122 also known as the John Warner Defense Authorization Act was signed by the president on Oct 17, 2006 John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007. Section 1076 Text of Hr5122 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". Removing the legalese from the text, and combining multiple sentences, it provides that: The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. The actual text is on page 322-323 of the legislation. As of 2008, these changes were repealed, changing the text of the law back to the original 1807 wording, under Public Law 110-181 (H.R. 4986, Section 1068,) however in signing H.R. 4986 into law President Bush attached a signing statement which indicated that the Executive Branch did not feel bound by the changes enacted by the repeal.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 07:25:22 PM »

The next president needs to go through all the executive orders signed by Bush and strip out all of the signing statements if that's even possible/legal. Prior presidents had used them... what? 15 times total? Less? How many now has he used? Tons?

I still think he did a lot of good in office but there were some genuinely epic fails and the overuse of signing statements is chief among them for me. The President is to be held accountable to the public, not the other way 'round. I'm not planning on living to see a take-over ala Babylon 5. smile
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2008, 11:59:40 PM »

This doesn't sound out of line with the course of American history.

Nope. Not at all.
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