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« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2008, 08:06:26 PM »

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"Speaking at a news conference in New Jersey, Mr. McCain said he believed that comments made by a Hamas leader approving Mr. Obama’s candidacy were “a legitimate point of discussion,” and he went on to accuse Mr. Obama of agreeing to negotiate with the president of Iran, who on Wednesday referred to Israel as “a stinking corpse facing annihilation.” He described that as “a distinct difference between myself and Senator Obama.”"

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For his part, Mr. McCain has taken pride in the enmity with which he regards Hamas. “I think that the people should understand that I will be Hamas’s worst nightmare,” he said late last month in a conference call with conservative bloggers.

Conversely, he has tried to portray Mr. Obama as sympathetic to Hamas.

“I think it is very clear who Hamas wants to be the next president of the United States,” Mr. McCain said to the bloggers. “If Senator Obama is favored by Hamas, I think people can make judgments accordingly.”

And in a fund-raising letter sent out in April, a spokesman for Mr. McCain wrote: “We need change in America, but not the kind of change that wins kind words from Hamas, surrenders in Iraq and will hold unconditional talks with Iranian President Ahmadinejad.”

In particular, the McCain campaign has explicitly linked Mr. Yousef’s statements to Mr. Obama’s repeatedly stated willingness to talk to so-called “rogue states” like Iran, North Korea and Cuba.

“Well, Iran is obviously an important supporter of Hamas,” Mr. McCain said Friday.

“Senator Obama wants to sit down and have negotiations and discussions with the person who just yesterday called Israel a quote ‘stinking corpse,’ ” he said, referring to Mr. Ahmadinejad, and “who continues to advocate quote ‘wiping Israel off the map.’ ”

You know what: If Obama wants to start talks with Iran, good for him. Isolation for 20+ years has done jack honkey to solve any problems.  Open up the dialogue, find a common ground, give them less reason to hate.

McCain, OTOH, wants to keep the same as usual BS that does not nothing but perpetuate the us vs them mentality.  Ooooh. He'll be Hamas' worst nightmare.  What idiotic rhetoric.

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« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2008, 09:34:46 PM »

Quote from: CSL on May 01, 2008, 06:29:18 AM

6 to 1 he's President come January when I and just about everyone else on the board is going to be stoked to hear his inaugural address.

My book had him 2 to 1 last week - now they aren't even taking any action:/.
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« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2008, 03:58:48 AM »

I don't know about Hamas but Obama as president is probably the worst case for Al Qaeda. McCain is a lot better one for them.

Hamas isn't the enemy of US, so Hamas like Obama probably not a bad thing.


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« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2008, 08:00:16 PM »

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 12, 2008, 03:58:48 AM

Hamas isn't the enemy of US, so Hamas like Obama probably not a bad thing.

Huh ???
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« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2008, 04:01:28 AM »

Quote from: denoginizer on May 12, 2008, 08:00:16 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 12, 2008, 03:58:48 AM

Hamas isn't the enemy of US, so Hamas like Obama probably not a bad thing.

Huh ???

Did Hamas send people to Iraq to kill US soldiers? Did Hamas send terrorists to US to kill Americans?
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« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2008, 04:07:11 AM »

Quote from: denoginizer on May 12, 2008, 08:00:16 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 12, 2008, 03:58:48 AM

Hamas isn't the enemy of US, so Hamas like Obama probably not a bad thing.

Huh ???

Dude... don't.  Trust me.

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« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2008, 02:21:16 PM »

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 13, 2008, 04:01:28 AM

Quote from: denoginizer on May 12, 2008, 08:00:16 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 12, 2008, 03:58:48 AM

Hamas isn't the enemy of US, so Hamas like Obama probably not a bad thing.

Huh ???

Did Hamas send people to Iraq to kill US soldiers? Did Hamas send terrorists to US to kill Americans?


Perhaps not. But they do wage a war of desired annhilation against Israel- one of the US's closest/most important allies.
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« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2008, 02:21:38 PM »

Quote from: gellar on May 13, 2008, 04:07:11 AM

Quote from: denoginizer on May 12, 2008, 08:00:16 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 12, 2008, 03:58:48 AM

Hamas isn't the enemy of US, so Hamas like Obama probably not a bad thing.

Huh ???

Dude... don't.  Trust me.

gellar

Oh no! Too late  saywhat
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« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2008, 03:26:22 AM »

Quote from: ATB on May 13, 2008, 02:21:16 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 13, 2008, 04:01:28 AM

Quote from: denoginizer on May 12, 2008, 08:00:16 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 12, 2008, 03:58:48 AM

Hamas isn't the enemy of US, so Hamas like Obama probably not a bad thing.

Huh ???

Did Hamas send people to Iraq to kill US soldiers? Did Hamas send terrorists to US to kill Americans?


Perhaps not. But they do wage a war of desired annhilation against Israel- one of the US's closest/most important allies.

Maybe Obama can persuade them to change their mind?smile

BTW, how come Israel is the closest and most important allies? I think there are more disadvantages of having Israel as allies than advantages for US. The only time US can get help from Israel is when there is a conflict in middle east but US have other allies that can help with that like Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Israel is also known to spy and steal US secrets.
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« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2008, 03:42:10 AM »

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 14, 2008, 03:26:22 AM

BTW, how come Israel is the closest and most important allies?
If you truly wish to be educated on that question, I suggest The $36 Billion Bargain: U.S. Aid to Israel and American Public Opinion by A.F.K. Organski, one of my old professors.
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« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2008, 03:53:54 AM »

Quote from: cheeba on May 14, 2008, 03:42:10 AM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 14, 2008, 03:26:22 AM

BTW, how come Israel is the closest and most important allies?
If you truly wish to be educated on that question, I suggest The $36 Billion Bargain: U.S. Aid to Israel and American Public Opinion by A.F.K. Organski, one of my old professors.

I guess then the next question is why Israel is still be closest and most important allies? Cold war is over.

Osama Bin Laden was also US's allies during cold war.smile
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