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« on: October 07, 2008, 05:24:43 PM »

And that's not all.

The following piece was written by Bobby May, the official chairman of the McCain campaign in Bucanan County, Virginia, as well as the treasurer for the Republican Party there.  You can read the entire article here.

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In response to criticism that I favor John McCain for President and only present "one side of the issues," I am listing for your consideration the platform of Barack Hussein Obama as best as I can figure it out after venting all the hot air, straining out the honey and removing the smelly substance similar to what the old bull left behind.

I think I've did (sic) a pretty good job of boiling his positions down to their very essence for the sake of clarity.

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Reparations to Black Community: Opposes before Election Day and supports after Election Day.

Freedom of Religion: Mandatory Black Liberation Theology courses taught in all churches -- raise taxes to pay for this mandate.  Put Rev. Jeremiah Wright in charge.  Condemnation of homosexuality from the pulpit will become a Class I Felony.

Homosexual Marriage:Raise taxes.  And coddle sexual perverts.  Give tax breaks for NAMBLA membership fees.

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Drug Crisis: Raise taxes to pay for free drugs to pay for Obama's inner-city political base.

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2nd Ammendment: Under Obama will only apply to gang-bambers, illegal aliens, Islamo-Fascist terrorists and Senator Jim Webb's aide.

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The White House: Hire rapper Ludacris to "paint it black."  Taxes to be increased to buy enough paint to do the job plus spray-paint for graffititi.

Third World Countries: Raise taxes to send $845 billion, send most to Africa so the Obama family there can skim off enough to allow them to free their goats and life the American Dream.

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National Anthem: Change to the "Black National Anthem" by James Weldon Johnson.  And raise taxes.

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U.S. Flag: Replace 50 stars with a star and crescent logo; red stripes changed to green to represent Obama's tree-hugging radical environmentalism and his lack of experience.  Flag label (sic) pins, having become a substitute for "real patriotism" will henceforth be banned.  And raise taxes.

U.S. Military: Confiscate all weapons, substitute water pistols, pea shooters, and bows with suction cup arrows.  Replace U.S. flag on uniforms with peace symbols changing uniform color from green to pink and abolishing the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy, replacing it with "A queer in every foxhole and a camouflage sex toy in every backpack" requirement.  Condoms will be issued instead of bullets and brotherly love encouraged.

EDIT: Fixed typo in link.

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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008, 05:39:36 PM »

if this guy officially in charge of anything more critical than holding john mc cain's toilet paper, then they have well and truly F'ed themselves by hiring him. 

does he not know how fast the internet tubes are these days? 
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 06:07:19 PM »

Here is a link that works. You failed to mention that this was a joke. You also didn't mention that the second the McCain campaign saw this dumb spoof, they axed the guy. What's more, calling him a "Campaign Official" is a bit of a stretch. He was a county scrub.

So was it really worth a thread?
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2008, 06:15:26 PM »

You knew the igorant would play the race card when the chips really got down for McCain.  

Provided it's true, it's probably Buchanan County, which is the ass-end of VA and probably one of the most backwards places in the nation. 

Of course, to call him a "county scrub" is, again, intellectually dishonest.  He was the rep for his county to the McCain Campaign - he WAS a campaign official.  I don't hold McCain nor his camp responsible, but this isn't any joke.  Anyone who has any knowledge of the area would know that this is a semi-serious attempt at racial fearmongering.  They're just not that bright in Grundy...

But it wasn't worth a thread.  There's better things to be outraged out.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 06:54:00 PM »

Quote from: Blackadar on October 07, 2008, 06:15:26 PM


But it wasn't worth a thread.  There's better things to be outraged out.

I'm sure that had it been the other way around, some of the more outspoken Republicans on the boards would be up in arms about it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 07:38:02 PM »

I'm not particularly outraged by the published opinions of one campaign member who, in reality, was speaking solely for himself.

The part I find interesting is that right-wing pundits like Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Rush Limbaugh will often try to insinuate that some random blog posting or anonymous comment thread is somehow representative of what liberals are secretly thinking.  As we speak, the official strategy of the McCain campaign is to repeatedly attack Barack Obama over whether or not he's done enough to repudiate the actions of William Ayers, a man he barely knows.

Here's a man that John McCain barely knows.  In fact, I'd wager he's never even heard of Bobby May.  He was, however, an official member of his campaign at the time he published this racist, gay-baiting screed.

If the McCain campaign is going to "unleash" Sarah Palin on a national campaign to whip up conservatives into a rabid frenzy over Obama's "palling around with terrorists", I think it's fair to point out that guilt by association is a self-destructive standard to set.

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 10:01:01 PM »

Quote from: rickfc on October 07, 2008, 06:54:00 PM

I'm sure that had it been the other way around, some of the more outspoken Republicans on the boards would be up in arms about it.
Exactly what are you basing that opinion on?

The "more outspoken Republicans on the boards" didn't make a new thread and get all outraged at that Democratic representative who said that Palin "doesn't care what they do with blacks and jews" did they? Hell, I don't even think there are any threads about the Obama Youth, of which I think there may just be a few members here, lol.

Perhaps the "more outspoken Republicans on the boards" are more level-headed about such matters? smile
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 10:46:01 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on October 07, 2008, 10:01:01 PM

Quote from: rickfc on October 07, 2008, 06:54:00 PM

I'm sure that had it been the other way around, some of the more outspoken Republicans on the boards would be up in arms about it.
Exactly what are you basing that opinion on?

As I recall, one of the more outspoken Republicans here took great personal offense when Barack Obama warned supporters that his opponents would employ racially-charged attacks against him.  There was quite a back and forth over whether or not such outrage was warranted, but I can't find any posts where you were arguing that the topic shouldn't have been allowed.

If msduncan gets to vent anger over the very suggestion that race-based attacks might occur, certainly we should have a chance to discuss them when they do.

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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2008, 11:04:43 PM »

Quote from: Autistic Angel on October 07, 2008, 10:46:01 PM

There was quite a back and forth over whether or not such outrage was warranted, but I can't find any posts where you were arguing that the topic shouldn't have been allowed.
I never said this topic shouldn't be allowed and I don't know why you would use that word for it. I said it was not worthwhile. But there's a big difference between that thread and this one...
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If msduncan gets to vent anger over the very suggestion that race-based attacks might occur, certainly we should have a chance to discuss them when they do.
...tell ya what: when McCain uses racial politics like Obama did, you can call him out on it without me saying it's not worthwhile. Until then, keep going after those county heads. There are no doubt hundreds if not thousands of them, so maybe you'll get lucky and find another idiot racist out of them.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 12:30:30 AM »

Quote from: cheeba on October 07, 2008, 11:04:43 PM

But there's a big difference between that thread and this one...

Yes.  In that thread, an outspoken Republican started a thread because he took personal umbrage at the suggestion that any other Republican, anywhere, would ever mount a race-based attack.  You didn't have a problem with that.

In this thread, an outspoken Democrat has started a thread about a particularly explicit race-based attack made by a Republican working on McCain's campaign and, after dismissing it as a "joke" by a "county scrub," you've started objecting to the very existence of the topic.

By the way, when you said

Quote from: cheeba on October 07, 2008, 06:07:19 PM

You failed to mention that this was a joke.

what *exactly* was your point?  Does overt, vitriolic racism not count so long as the campaign official spewing it eventually remembers to say, "Kidding!"

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2008, 12:47:47 AM »

Quote from: Autistic Angel on October 08, 2008, 12:30:30 AM

Yes.  In that thread, an outspoken Republican started a thread because he took personal umbrage at the suggestion that any other Republican, anywhere, would ever mount a race-based attack.  You didn't have a problem with that.

In this thread, an outspoken Democrat has started a thread about a particularly explicit race-based attack made by a Republican working on McCain's campaign and, after dismissing it as a "joke" by a "county scrub," you've started objecting to the very existence of the topic.
Context matters. It matters who says what. Everyone cares what Barack Obama says. No one cares what some idiot county chairman says.
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what *exactly* was your point?  Does overt, vitriolic racism not count so long as the campaign official spewing it eventually remembers to say, "Kidding!"
Yes, that's exactly what I was saying - because you know any time you interpret my words you get it 100% perfect every single time!   retard

It was important because I was hoping it wasn't another stupid thing where the McCain campaign says Obama wants to teach kindergartners how to bump little uglies.

And to say this was made by a Republican working on McCain's campaign is only half accurate. It's much more accurate to say Republican who formerly worked on McCain's campaign. But of course you didn't mention that, did you?

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2008, 02:54:15 AM »

Quote from: cheeba on October 08, 2008, 12:47:47 AM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on October 08, 2008, 12:30:30 AM

Yes.  In that thread, an outspoken Republican started a thread because he took personal umbrage at the suggestion that any other Republican, anywhere, would ever mount a race-based attack.  You didn't have a problem with that.

In this thread, an outspoken Democrat has started a thread about a particularly explicit race-based attack made by a Republican working on McCain's campaign and, after dismissing it as a "joke" by a "county scrub," you've started objecting to the very existence of the topic.
Context matters. It matters who says what. Everyone cares what Barack Obama says. No one cares what some idiot county chairman says.
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what *exactly* was your point?  Does overt, vitriolic racism not count so long as the campaign official spewing it eventually remembers to say, "Kidding!"


You don't get to make that call, and, you've been proven wrong.

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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2008, 02:06:40 PM »

Quote from: Blackadar on October 07, 2008, 06:15:26 PM

You knew the igorant would play the race card when the chips really got down for McCain.  

Provided it's true, it's probably Buchanan County, which is the ass-end of VA and probably one of the most backwards places in the nation. 

Of course, to call him a "county scrub" is, again, intellectually dishonest.  He was the rep for his county to the McCain Campaign - he WAS a campaign official.  I don't hold McCain nor his camp responsible, but this isn't any joke.  Anyone who has any knowledge of the area would know that this is a semi-serious attempt at racial fearmongering.  They're just not that bright in Grundy...

But it wasn't worth a thread.  There's better things to be outraged out.

I live about 95 miles south of Buchanan County and the wonderful metropolis within it, Grundy, Virginia, and I can say that yes, it indeed is one of the most backwards, and racist places in the country. I vividly recall playing Grundy High School in Basketball when I was in High School and seeing a sign posted in someones yard near the county line that said, "Nigger don't let the sun shine on you in Buchanan County". That wasn't 1962, it was in 1992.

Amazingly, it is big time union country, the UMWA is very powerful up there and Obama probably will do pretty good there based solely on the support of the UMWA. Kerry and Gore both won it.
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2008, 03:45:59 PM »

Quote from: Autistic Angel on October 07, 2008, 07:38:02 PM

If the McCain campaign is going to "unleash" Sarah Palin on a national campaign to whip up conservatives into a rabid frenzy over Obama's "palling around with terrorists", I think it's fair to point out that guilt by association is a self-destructive standard to set.

Well, it's not like she has any loose ties to someone who she barely knows that hates America and wanted to secede from the Union or anything.  I mean, she's only married to the guy so it's not like she once had to attend a political event at his house or anything so involved as that.
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2008, 05:45:51 PM »

Quote from: joeyjazz on October 08, 2008, 03:45:59 PM

Well, it's not like she has any loose ties to someone who she barely knows that hates America and wanted to secede from the Union or anything.  I mean, she's only married to the guy so it's not like she once had to attend a political event at his house or anything so involved as that.
What evidence do you have that he hates America? That he wants to secede? Have you ever had a break-up with a woman that you did not hate?

This whole secession stuff is nonsense. Of course Alaskans entertain thoughts of seceding. So does any land which feels segregated - Quebec, Hawaii... hell the upper peninsula of Michigan wants to become its own state called Superior. It's natural, and it does not require hatred. It just requires separation.
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2008, 06:04:06 PM »

Uh huh.

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"When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red coats. They make better targets. In the federal government are the biggest liars in the United States, and I hate them with a passion. They think they own [Alaska]. There comes a time when people will choose to die with honor rather than live with dishonor. That time may be coming here. Our goal is ultimate independence by peaceful means under a minimal government fully responsive to the people. I hope we don't have to take human life, but if they go on tramping on our property rights, look out, we're ready to die."

Vogler wasn't just a blowhard either. He put his secessionist ideas into action, working to build AIP membership to 20,000 -- an impressive figure by Alaska standards -- and to elect party member Walter Hickel as governor in 1990.

How would you/msduncan/brettmcd have responded in this hypothetical case?

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Imagine the uproar if Michelle Obama was revealed to have joined a black nationalist party whose founder preached armed secession from the United States and who enlisted the government of Iran in his cause? The Obama campaign would probably not have survived such an explosive revelation. Particularly if Barack Obama himself was videotaped giving the anti-American secessionists his wholehearted support just months ago.
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2008, 06:05:31 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on October 08, 2008, 05:45:51 PM


What evidence do you have that he hates America?

Well, there's this money quote:

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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2008, 06:07:46 PM »

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What evidence do you have that he hates America? That he wants to secede? Have you ever had a break-up with a woman that you did not hate?

right - and all ayers did was slap her in the face during a night of rough sex - but its okay he took her out to dinner the next day

(i personally dont care about either "issue," and think its just a sideshow to the really important stuff; but i thought my line was too delicious and funny so i HAD to use it - please tell me it got a laugh or two? - and wasnt in terribly poor taste? - and if ayers killed anyone then i completely apologize in advance)
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2008, 06:22:58 PM »

Quote from: Brendan on October 08, 2008, 06:04:06 PM

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Imagine the uproar if Michelle Obama was revealed to have joined a black nationalist party whose founder preached armed secession from the United States and who enlisted the government of Iran in his cause? The Obama campaign would probably not have survived such an explosive revelation. Particularly if Barack Obama himself was videotaped giving the anti-American secessionists his wholehearted support just months ago.
Race is different than region. Regional differences are accepted, even celebrated. People in Ann Arbor, Michigan, hate people in Columbus, Ohio, and vice versa. My city is better than your neighboring city. My school is better than your school.

If Michelle Obama thought that Chicago should be separated from Illinois, I'd think she's off her rocker but harmless, just like I think this Alaska secession crap is.

Besides, have you ever been to Alaska? They have like 7 men for every woman. Of course they are batshit crazy.
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2008, 06:25:09 PM »

Quote from: Crux on October 08, 2008, 06:05:31 PM

Well, there's this money quote:

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"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. ... And I won't be buried under their damn flag."
That's that crazy bitch Vogler, not Palin's husband.
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2008, 06:39:00 PM »

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Besides, have you ever been to Alaska? They have like 7 men for every woman. Of course they are batshit crazy.

hehehe - and now we know the REAL reason the polar bear is fleeing

*polar bear bill to polar bear steve* gees man i dont know, its just humiliating - i mean it was bad enough when they hunted us, but this is too much.  no matter how long i stay in that frigid water, i still feel dirty, you know?
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2008, 06:52:25 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on October 08, 2008, 06:25:09 PM

Quote from: Crux on October 08, 2008, 06:05:31 PM

Well, there's this money quote:

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That's that crazy bitch Vogler, not Palin's husband.

Right. He just listened intently while she was saying these kinds of things. No reason at all to expect that he was accepting of or shared her views in any way, shape or form  retard
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2008, 07:03:27 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on October 08, 2008, 05:45:51 PM

What evidence do you have that he hates America? That he wants to secede? Have you ever had a break-up with a woman that you did not hate?

As much evidence as people seem to have that Obama wants to hang out with terrorists who are plotting against America.  Both lines of thought are stretching the truth way beyond what it actually is.
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2008, 08:56:06 PM »

Quote from: Crux on October 08, 2008, 06:52:25 PM

Right. He just listened intently while she was saying these kinds of things. No reason at all to expect that he was accepting of or shared her views in any way, shape or form  retard
Oh come now you make it too easy. First, Vogel wasn't a "she" so I'm not sure you understand what you're talking about. Second, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, hello?   retard
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2008, 11:26:26 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on October 08, 2008, 08:56:06 PM

Quote from: Crux on October 08, 2008, 06:52:25 PM

Right. He just listened intently while she was saying these kinds of things. No reason at all to expect that he was accepting of or shared her views in any way, shape or form  retard
Oh come now you make it too easy. First, Vogel wasn't a "she" so I'm not sure you understand what you're talking about. Second, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, hello?   retard

I think Crux just followed your words where you refer to Vogel as a crazy bitch. I think bitch is supposed to be female.
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2008, 05:57:48 AM »

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I live about 95 miles south of Buchanan County and the wonderful metropolis within it, Grundy, Virginia, and I can say that yes, it indeed is one of the most backwards, and racist places in the country. I vividly recall playing Grundy High School in Basketball when I was in High School and seeing a sign posted in someones yard near the county line that said, "Nigger don't let the sun shine on you in Buchanan County". That wasn't 1962, it was in 1992.

Amazingly, it is big time union country, the UMWA is very powerful up there and Obama probably will do pretty good there based solely on the support of the UMWA. Kerry and Gore both won it.

What I find amazing, yet not at all surprising, is the assumption that a region that is heavily democratic/unionized can't be heavily racist as well. 
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