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« on: June 06, 2008, 04:40:39 PM »

Just not in the way the administration's always talking about.

Wow.  The fucking irony.

Michael Ledeen, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Dick Cheney, and George W. Bush, your legacies are sealed.  And it all connects back to fucking Iran-Contra.  Thanks Reagan!
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 10:21:04 PM »

It makes sense I guess.  I think the biggest beneficiary of Saddam being deposed is Iran.  Clearly there have been many intelligence blunders in the last 8 years, 9-11 included.  The Bush administration suppressing intelligence which was contrary to their positions only made things worse. 
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 10:49:21 PM »

So this is what $44 billion a year gets you?  Perhaps we should consult Livy to relearn the ancient art of augury.  It would probably match the results of our intelligence community in the last 7 years.  Is Iran pursuing The Bomb?  Someone grab a chicken and a knife.   
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2008, 11:41:52 PM »

So basically they told the US what the US wanted to hear?
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2008, 11:53:06 PM »

Quote from: Canuck on June 06, 2008, 11:41:52 PM

So basically they told the US what the US wanted to hear?

Essentially - but specifically, they worked through the incompetent and warmongering neocon faction guys in the VP's office, who then shared their "intelligence" with each other and their allies in the department of defense, but not with the actual American intelligence services, who had dismissed the Iranian contact as "nefarious and unreliable."

All of these idiots belong in jail.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2008, 11:57:03 PM »

Quote from: helot2000 on June 06, 2008, 10:49:21 PM

So this is what $44 billion a year gets you?  Perhaps we should consult Livy to relearn the ancient art of augury.  It would probably match the results of our intelligence community in the last 7 years.  Is Iran pursuing The Bomb?  Someone grab a chicken and a knife.   

To be fair, the intelligence guys got it right here:

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"First," the report said, "State Department and CIA officials attempted to determine what Mr. Ledeen and the DOD representatives had done in Rome, and second, DOD officials debated the next course of action."

When the CIA and the State Department discovered that Ledeen and Ghorbanifar were involved, they opposed any further contact with the two. Ledeen's contacts, the Defense Human Intelligence Service concluded, were "nefarious and unreliable," the Senate committee reported.

It's the DOD and the DIA, as well as the VP's office, of course, that're specifically at fault in this case.
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