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Ah, the Birthers. I would love to see how they got a friggin' book out of this topic. wow, click on the filter for Birther Nonsense at the bottom of that page and marvel at some of the conspiracy tomes out there.
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2011, 03:43:48 PM » |
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That's what Obama gets for just not producing an actual birth certificate. The way he has handled it has been absolutely ridiculous. Unless of course he really can't provide proof 
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 03:51:45 PM » |
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That's what Obama gets for just not producing an actual birth certificate. The way he has handled it has been absolutely ridiculous. Unless of course he really can't provide proof  In Hawaii and other states, original birth certificates are not released when requested later. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/15/debunking-the-birther-claim/They provided the proof that the state will give.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 03:52:36 PM » |
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I just wish he would show the damn thing just to shut all the birthers the F up. It would also be interesting to see what their next big conspiracy would be.
I suspect he doesn't release it because it is such a non-issue to him and releasing it would just allow them to latch onto something else that could actually turn into an issue.
The best thing to do with fake conspiracies is to ignore them and allow them to be a distraction for the people who want to believe it, because politically you aren't going to win them over anyway.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 03:56:08 PM » |
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Yup, just show the damn thing.
I also think Jamie Lee Curtis needs to just show her damn thing too, and stop all the rumors
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 03:58:19 PM » |
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Yup, just show the damn thing.
I also think Jamie Lee Curtis needs to just show her damn thing too, and stop all the rumors
Why haven't you shown YOURS? I have my doubts about your citizenship because of that. (p.s. glad to see even you understand this issue is worthy of nothing but ridicule. maybe there's hope for you yet.  )
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 04:03:36 PM » |
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Perhaps it won't be long before Obama gets his very own conspiracy generator
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 04:07:10 PM » |
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I never hated Bush, I just thought he surrounded himself with people who weren't acting in the best interests of the U.S.. I think he honestly felt he was doing the right thing and I can appreciate that. Unfortunately, we disagree on what the right thing was at that time.
Folks who believed that Bush was motivated by some grand plan cooked up by U.S. oil companies to conquer all oil producing nations (amongst other conspiracy theories) were simply nut jobs and they did little to draw attention to the policies that were wrong.
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I still want to see Jamie Lee's poo-nana
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 04:14:08 PM » |
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I still want to see Jamie Lee's poo-nana
As she does yours, my friend...as she does yours.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2011, 04:33:57 PM » |
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I'll show you mine if she shows me hers
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2011, 04:34:29 PM » |
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I just wish he would show the damn thing just to shut all the birthers the F up. He has already requested form the state of Hawai'i, received and posted on the Internet the only document the state will issue to someone requested a copy of their birth certificate. His "original" birth certificate is not his property, he can't just go to the bank and pull it out of a safe deposit box and show it to people -- it belongs to the State of Hawai'i, and he can only get a copy based on their laws and policies, which he has done. What more can reasonably be asked of him in this regard?
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2011, 04:40:06 PM » |
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I just wish he would show the damn thing just to shut all the birthers the F up. He has already requested form the state of Hawai'i, received and posted on the Internet the only document the state will issue to someone requested a copy of their birth certificate. His "original" birth certificate is not his property, he can't just go to the bank and pull it out of a safe deposit box and show it to people -- it belongs to the State of Hawai'i, and he can only get a copy based on their laws and policies, which he has done. What more can reasonably be asked of him in this regard? Nothing, but that won't stop them from cooking up all kinds of conspiracy theories to try and sway voters.
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I'll show you mine if she shows me hers
I think you misread what hep said. I don't recall a request for HIM to see your wedding tackle. Also, Ew.
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I want to see Trig Palin's birth certificate. And Donald Trump's. 
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2011, 06:26:46 PM » |
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I'll show you mine if she shows me hers
I think you misread what hep said. I don't recall a request for HIM to see your wedding tackle. Also, Ew. Zeke has been trying to force his junk into everyone's view since the day he created an online profile.
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There is absolutely no reason for Obama to "end the controversy" by arranging to show his "original" birth certificate.
First, it's ridiculous to assume that any amount of evidence will satisfy his critics.
Second, it's beneficial for Obama to be criticized loudly by unbalanced people. He hopes, not unreasonably, that folks will focus on the loony-tune criticisms of him rather than the more reasonable criticisms that he's a spendthrift, an oathbreaker, and an unapologetic adopter of policies he once criticized.
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2011, 06:34:36 PM » |
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I'll show you mine if she shows me hers
I think you misread what hep said. I don't recall a request for HIM to see your wedding tackle. Also, Ew. Zeke has been trying to force his junk into everyone's view since the day he created an online profile. Is this going to turn into a 300 page thread about Zeke's junk? I imagine there are a lot of twist and turns, and the climax might not be suitable for pubic knowledge.
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2011, 06:36:32 PM » |
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Is this going to turn into a 300 page thread about Zeke's junk? hep is hoping so
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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2011, 06:39:58 PM » |
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Second, it's beneficial for Obama to be criticized loudly by unbalanced people. He hopes, not unreasonably, that folks will focus on the loony-tune criticisms of him rather than the more reasonable criticisms that he's a spendthrift, an oathbreaker, and an unapologetic adopter of policies he once criticized. Thats the lamest excuse i've heard so far. And also the most convenient. He's the mutha-effin President.....I think he can override Hawaii's rule regarding his birth certificate. JUST SHOW THE FUCKING THING ALREADY  .
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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2011, 06:40:34 PM » |
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I still want to see Jamie Lee's poo-nana
The current vernacular is "Map of Tazmania".
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I think he can override Hawaii's rule regarding his birth certificate.
This just in. Zeke thinks we should throw out the Tenth Amendment!
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2011, 06:46:43 PM » |
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Thanks Zeke. Parodying the idiocy of Birthers by pretending to even partially support their stance is a great way of showing how ludicrous the whole thing is. I'm glad you're on the side of the sane on this matter.
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He's the mutha-effin President.....I think he can override Hawaii's rule regarding his birth certificate. By what authority can he override Hawai'i's laws on this matter? He's the President, and still a citizen and still bound by the law. JUST SHOW THE FUCKING THING ALREADY  He doesn't have it in his possession, and Hawai'i doesn't issue it when requested, they only issue the document he has made public. Period.
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He's the mutha-effin President.....I think he can override Hawaii's rule regarding his birth certificate. By what authority can he override Hawai'i's laws on this matter? He's the President, and still a citizen and still bound by the law. Couldn't he break the law then pardon himself? It won't be the first time a president has done it.
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Thanks Zeke. Parodying the idiocy of Birthers by pretending to even partially support their stance is a great way of showing how ludicrous the whole thing is. I'm glad you're on the side of the sane on this matter.
You have to admit that without Obama officially dispelling this conspiracy, it's always going to leave a shadow of doubt. He's doesn't seem to have had trouble up to this point defending against the critics over many issues, yet this one remains. And since when is it ok to follow blindly? Bush haters certainly didn't. .
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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2011, 08:09:08 PM » |
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Thanks Zeke. Parodying the idiocy of Birthers by pretending to even partially support their stance is a great way of showing how ludicrous the whole thing is. I'm glad you're on the side of the sane on this matter.
You have to admit that without Obama officially dispelling this conspiracy, it's always going to leave a shadow of doubt. He's doesn't seem to have had trouble up to this point defending against the critics over many issues, yet this one remains. And since when is it ok to follow blindly? Bush haters certainly didn't. . I like your commitment to staying in character! Keep up the good work, man!
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Thanks Zeke. Parodying the idiocy of Birthers by pretending to even partially support their stance is a great way of showing how ludicrous the whole thing is. I'm glad you're on the side of the sane on this matter.
You have to admit that without Obama officially dispelling this conspiracy, it's always going to leave a shadow of doubt. He's doesn't seem to have had trouble up to this point defending against the critics over many issues, yet this one remains. And since when is it ok to follow blindly? Bush haters certainly didn't. . I like your commitment to staying in character! Keep up the good work, man! If you mean the same character that isn't in Obama's corner, then thanks!
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Thanks Zeke. Parodying the idiocy of Birthers by pretending to even partially support their stance is a great way of showing how ludicrous the whole thing is. I'm glad you're on the side of the sane on this matter.
You have to admit that without Obama officially dispelling this conspiracy, it's always going to leave a shadow of doubt. He's doesn't seem to have had trouble up to this point defending against the critics over many issues, yet this one remains. And since when is it ok to follow blindly? Bush haters certainly didn't. . I like your commitment to staying in character! Keep up the good work, man! If you mean the same character that isn't in Obama's corner, then thanks! Why do you hate America?
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Why am I unpatriotic for liking George Bush?
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Why am I unpatriotic for liking George Bush?
Obama is president of the United States. You don't like Obama, ergo you don't like America. Why don't you move to another country if you don't like this one so much!
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You have to admit that without Obama officially dispelling this conspiracy, it's always going to leave a shadow of doubt. In the minds of everyone except for racists and complete, hopeless idiots, he dispelled this nonsense by releasing the only form legally available to him to release.
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And since when is it ok to follow blindly? Bush haters certainly didn't.
oh man, i thought zeke was being serious for a second there. but according to the above quote, he believes those who didn't like bush weren't blindly following party dogma...that they had a legitimate complaint. you almost had me, old boy.
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You have to admit that without Obama officially dispelling this conspiracy, it's always going to leave a shadow of doubt. In the minds of everyone except for racists and complete, hopeless idiots, he dispelled this nonsense by releasing the only form legally available to him to release. This. What is so hard to understand about the fact that he's presented the only document that the state of Hawai'i will release to him? He's the mutha-effin President.....I think he can override Hawaii's rule regarding his birth certificate.
Um, I think you need to read up on how the government works, Zeke. He is the president of the United States, but he is not above the law, and no matter how much you believe he can override any state's laws to do his bidding, the truth is that he cannot. I can just see the Fox headlines were he stupid enough to try that. 
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This is clearly a job for Rainbow Six. Break in there and get that birth certificate and deliver it to CNN. Then Obama has plausible deniability.
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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2011, 09:37:01 PM » |
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Here ya go, Zeke. The proof you wanted... 
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Looks legit.
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Here ya go, Zeke. The proof you wanted...  Come on, hep, admit it.....you wrote that for Obama, didn't you?
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