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« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2015, 10:10:32 PM »

ATB's uncredited quote is from Chief Justice John Roberts' dissent.

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Hard questions arise when people of faith exercise religion in ways that may be seen to conflict with the new right to same-sex marriage—when, for example, a religious college provides married student housing only to opposite-sex married couples, or a religious adoption agency declines to place children with same-sex married couples… Unfortunately, people of faith can take no comfort in the treatment they receive from the majority today.


The questions aren't that hard: Bob Jones University v. United States set a clear precedent that religious universities enforcing racially discriminatory policies based on "biblical interpretation" could lose their tax exempt status.  It turned out that when financial interests conflicted with the Word of God, the fine scholars at BJU looked again and discovered God was totally cool with interracial dating after all.

This is very simple: if you believe same-sex marriage is sinful, don't get married to someone of the same sex.  But if you believe your religion empowers you to seize basic civil rights away from other people who have nothing to do with you by the way, that's not piety.  You're just an asshole.

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« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2015, 10:18:53 PM »

Quote from: Autistic Angel on June 30, 2015, 10:10:32 PM

This is very simple: if you believe same-sex marriage is sinful, don't get married to someone of the same sex.  But if you believe your religion empowers you to seize basic civil rights away from other people who have nothing to do with you by the way, that's not piety.  You're just an asshole.

Judging from my class last night, many seem to wrongly think that this forces churches to marry gay people. They were also upset that a businesses cannot refuse to serve gay people. I argued that it was no different than refusing to serve people of race, but they disagreed because being gay is a sin. To which I compared it to all the other sins, they are ok with the others. They had no argument, but were firmly entrenched that a business should be able to refuse gay people.
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« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2015, 01:03:51 PM »

Quote from: ATB on June 30, 2015, 05:39:16 PM


Perhaps the most discouraging aspect of today’s decision is the extent to which the majority feels compelled to sully those on the other side of the debate. The majority offers a cursory assurance that it does not intend to disparage people who, as a matter of conscience, cannot accept samesex marriage. That disclaimer is hard to square with the very next sentence, in which the majority explains that “the necessary consequence” of laws codifying the traditional definition of marriage is to “demea[n] or stigmatiz[e]” same-sex couples… It is one thing for the majority to conclude that the Constitution protects a right to same-sex marriage; it is something  else to portray everyone who does not share the majority’s ‘better informed understanding’ as bigoted.”

It's called karma.  Deal with it.   icon_biggrin

But in all seriousness, a growing section of this country has had enough of being portrayed as immoral components in the downfall of what some wrongfully perceive as a christian nation.  So when they fight back by letting them know that they truly believe they're the harmful force, you shouldn't be surprised.

They don't want to be called bigots?  Prove it by taking the bible to heart and turning the other cheek.
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« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2015, 05:17:48 PM »

Jimmy Carter Says Jesus Would Approve Of Gay Marriage
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