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« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2013, 03:47:53 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on July 25, 2013, 03:44:24 PM

As I mentioned earlier, I'm also guilty of some name calling and insults.  So I would feel rather bad if someone else were to be banned for it in this section of GT. 

Unless you were too.  We'd all be okay with that I think.  nod
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« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2013, 03:52:53 PM »

I'm pretty sure that was the subtext of my post.  But honestly, you'd be going out the door with me (along with a bunch of others) were we to do so.  We all lose our cool or get sarcastic with one another from time to time.
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« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2013, 04:00:36 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on July 25, 2013, 03:32:18 PM

Quote from: Purge on July 25, 2013, 01:38:44 PM

I just read through the Code of Conduct, and I think that if people want to have the issue addressed it needs to be reported to the moderators. The topic itself is "are there any right-wing groups responsible?" but it's a pretty thin veneer for a left-wing trolling session. Some folks have tried to bring the conversation to an intelligent high-point (as in discussing the Detroit thing and the people responsible).

I'm not a mod here. My suggestion would be to start a thread with a broader scope on the Detroit bankruptcy and speak there, and let this one die. If you have a problem with a post or demeanor, you can also report it directly using the report post.

The problem in this case is that if it's a given that EcoLogic as nothing but a troll, then everyone here has been feeding him. slywink
Ive asked for his banning several times both on the forums, by pm's and by reporting his posts. I dont know of any other sites that would put up with the blatant trolling and namecalling. There is no good outcome for anyone from him being here, nor his posts.

You have?  That's strange, I show no PM's (to me at least) or threads being reported by you regarding Eco-Logic...

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« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2013, 04:01:22 PM »

Check under his other board alias:  ThorJr
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« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2013, 04:13:33 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on July 25, 2013, 03:52:53 PM

 But honestly, you'd be going out the door with me (along with a bunch of others) were we to do so. 

How dare you! I am a GT institution!

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« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2013, 04:39:24 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on July 25, 2013, 03:47:23 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 25, 2013, 03:44:24 PM

I think banning is a bit extreme.  He seems reasonable enough in the Off-Topic forum.  It's only here in the political forum that he comes across as a bit troubled.  The resulting melt downs are always so ludicrous that you have to laugh at them though.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm also guilty of some name calling and insults.  So I would feel rather bad if someone else were to be banned for it in this section of GT. 

I agree. Plus I actually enjoy a good Eco blow up thread. Of course I loved the Zeke ones too back in the day so my opinion probably doesn't count for much.

I'm in this camp.  I love me a good trainwreck.
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« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2013, 04:42:27 PM »

While Eco and Zeke threads are amusing in their own way, I really do wish we could had someone providing a conservative viewpoint that wasn't "OBAMA EVIL" or "anyone who disagrees with me is a fucking idiot".  I actually want to hear both sides of the issues so I can come to an educated opinion, but it's tough to take anything from those guys seriously.  We do see opposing viewpoints pop up from time to time, but not very consistently.

Will one of you folks who PM'd Eco asking him to post this picture please speak up next time?  slywink
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« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2013, 04:49:25 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on July 25, 2013, 03:44:24 PM

I think banning is a bit extreme.  He seems reasonable enough in the Off-Topic forum.  It's only here in the political forum that he comes across as a bit troubled.  The resulting melt downs are always so ludicrous that you have to laugh at them though.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm also guilty of some name calling and insults.  So I would feel rather bad if someone else were to be banned for it in this section of GT. 

So its okay to have him not follow the CoC and sprout hatred at everyone, because you guys enjoy it? thats...pretty strange but okay - Its one of the reasons I don't come here much, so I guess its you guys playground then. Just don't complain about him blowing up, when its actually something you seem to enjoy and have fun with. Personally, I find that somewhat nasty.
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« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2013, 04:51:09 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on July 25, 2013, 04:42:27 PM

While Eco and Zeke threads are amusing in their own way, I really do wish we could had someone providing a conservative viewpoint that wasn't "OBAMA EVIL" or "anyone who disagrees with me is a fucking idiot".  I actually want to hear both sides of the issues so I can come to an educated opinion, but it's tough to take anything from those guys seriously.  We do see opposing viewpoints pop up from time to time, but not very consistently.

So two things:  1) You can't take him seriously so why bother even trying?  2) There is very little reasonable counter viewpoint here on GT.  I'd suggest you look elsewhere for that.

Eco is what he is.  GT is what it is.  Expecting different out of either isn't going to work out well.
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« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2013, 04:55:11 PM »

I can't imagine what Eco-Logic gets out of this sort of behavior.  He talks about "rattling the cage" and enjoying the spectacle of all the loony liberals getting stirred up...but that increasingly means that everyone has seen right through whatever thinly-veiled talking point he's tried to recreate and is just laughing at how poor his execution was.  It's the forum equivalent of watching someone give himself a swirlie and then claim victory because he secretly washed the toilet bowl out beforehand.

He shouldn't be banned, though.  Repeatedly commiting social hari-kiri in one subforum is not like dumping sexually explicit pictures into condolence threads, or shitting up movie discussions with racial insults.  Eco-Logic is a self-described troll, but he's a low key and easily ignored one by internet standards.

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« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2013, 04:56:42 PM »

Indeed, except for the fact that a lot of people here are egging him on once he posts, which isn't pretty, and probably not very healthy for him either, which is why I suggested the banning, actually.

Edit: Nevermind - I think I'm pretty alone in my concerns, and thats fine - Its not like R&P is a place that I love anyways, so I'll just stay away from it I guess.
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« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2013, 05:00:44 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on July 25, 2013, 04:56:42 PM

Indeed, except for the fact that a lot of people here are egging him on once he posts, which isn't pretty, and probably not very healthy for him either, which is why I suggested the banning, actually.

Edit: Nevermind - I think I'm pretty alone in my concerns, and thats fine - Its not like R&P is a place that I love anyways, so I'll just stay away from it I guess.

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« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2013, 05:02:24 PM »

Quote from: gellar on July 25, 2013, 04:51:09 PM

Quote from: Gratch on July 25, 2013, 04:42:27 PM

While Eco and Zeke threads are amusing in their own way, I really do wish we could had someone providing a conservative viewpoint that wasn't "OBAMA EVIL" or "anyone who disagrees with me is a fucking idiot".  I actually want to hear both sides of the issues so I can come to an educated opinion, but it's tough to take anything from those guys seriously.  We do see opposing viewpoints pop up from time to time, but not very consistently.

So two things:  1) You can't take him seriously so why bother even trying?  2) There is very little reasonable counter viewpoint here on GT.  I'd suggest you look elsewhere for that.

Eco is what he is.  GT is what it is.  Expecting different out of either isn't going to work out well.

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« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2013, 05:16:18 PM »

Quote from: Autistic Angel on July 25, 2013, 04:55:11 PM

He shouldn't be banned, though.  Repeatedly commiting social hari-kiri in one subforum is not like dumping sexually explicit pictures into condolence threads, or shitting up movie discussions with racial insults.  Eco-Logic is a self-described troll, but he's a low key and easily ignored one by internet standards.

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« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2013, 05:25:39 PM »

Quote from: gellar on July 25, 2013, 04:51:09 PM

So two things:  1) You can't take him seriously so why bother even trying?  2) There is very little reasonable counter viewpoint here on GT.  I'd suggest you look elsewhere for that.

It is odd that the I can count the number of hardline conservative republicans on one hand...with three fingers missing.  At least actively posting ones.  OO has a few more, but not many.

I wonder if it's because most of them aren't gamers in any applicable capacity and thus aren't present?  Or because they are present, but don't actively post on the subject of politics because they feel outnumbered and thus voiceless?  

I will say that I find it annoying when the complaint comes up that there ARE more left leaning posters on either board when anyone disagrees with someone from the right.  Are forum sites now supposed to put forth some kind of qualification for joining explicitly seeking a balance in political beliefs?
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« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2013, 05:35:46 PM »

Quote from: gellar on July 25, 2013, 04:39:24 PM

Quote from: Scraper on July 25, 2013, 03:47:23 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 25, 2013, 03:44:24 PM

I think banning is a bit extreme.  He seems reasonable enough in the Off-Topic forum.  It's only here in the political forum that he comes across as a bit troubled.  The resulting melt downs are always so ludicrous that you have to laugh at them though.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm also guilty of some name calling and insults.  So I would feel rather bad if someone else were to be banned for it in this section of GT. 

I agree. Plus I actually enjoy a good Eco blow up thread. Of course I loved the Zeke ones too back in the day so my opinion probably doesn't count for much.

I'm in this camp.  I love me a good trainwreck.

It gets tiresome when every thread ends in a shouting match between the same 3 or 4 people. OTOH, no thread would ever go 2 pages without the personal dustups.
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« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2013, 05:49:34 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on July 25, 2013, 05:25:39 PM

Quote from: gellar on July 25, 2013, 04:51:09 PM

So two things:  1) You can't take him seriously so why bother even trying?  2) There is very little reasonable counter viewpoint here on GT.  I'd suggest you look elsewhere for that.

It is odd that the I can count the number of hardline conservative republicans on one hand...with three fingers missing.  At least actively posting ones.  OO has a few more, but not many.

I wonder if it's because most of them aren't gamers in any applicable capacity and thus aren't present?  Or because they are present, but don't actively post on the subject of politics because they feel outnumbered and thus voiceless? 

I will say that I find it annoying when the complaint comes up that there ARE more left leaning posters on either board when anyone disagrees with someone from the right.  Are forum sites now supposed to put forth some kind of qualification for joining explicitly seeking a balance in political beliefs?

It's a demographic issue and a self-selection issue.

Demographically, hard line Republicans aren't of the age where a gaming message board is something they would frequent.  The Republicans totally missed that age group, which is evident in the national election results.

The other part is self-selection - even if I was a hard line Republican gamer in my mid 30s, why would I post my opinion on a board where 99% of the populace would disagree with me?  It's pointless.
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« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2013, 05:49:36 PM »

so Eco is like the village drunk, he gets all loud after a bunch of drinks and the neighborhood kids proceed to kick him around as he is face down in the gutter?
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« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2013, 05:52:31 PM »

Jesus, Cee...you grew up in one tough ass village.   icon_eek
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« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2013, 06:16:48 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on July 25, 2013, 05:52:31 PM

Jesus, Cee...you grew up in one tough ass village.   icon_eek

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« Reply #60 on: July 25, 2013, 06:52:02 PM »

Does the forum software allow for banning him from just this subforum?
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« Reply #61 on: July 25, 2013, 06:58:47 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on July 25, 2013, 06:52:02 PM

Does the forum software allow for banning him from just this subforum?

yes, and it's been done before.
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« Reply #62 on: July 25, 2013, 07:34:28 PM »

Quote from: naednek on July 25, 2013, 06:58:47 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on July 25, 2013, 06:52:02 PM

Does the forum software allow for banning him from just this subforum?

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« Reply #63 on: July 25, 2013, 08:18:54 PM »

Whatever... don't ban me, despite all this shit, I do like this forum and I have fond memories gaming with many of you.  I've said it before and it was bullshit, but this time it's actually true.  I'll leave this forum (R&P)  for good.  Quote masters, feel free to hold me to it.

My final soliloquy:

I wish you all the best in whatever you do.  I hope to God our country rights the ship returns to a more conservative platform as I think anything else is absolutely crazy, I don't see that happening though do  to the welfare state we've been drug into.  That's all irrelevant, as I hope to have more gaming memories with you all.  I will be on the PS4, for what it's worth.  Take care, and God bless.

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« Reply #64 on: July 25, 2013, 08:34:04 PM »

Eco, you're more than welcome to post in R&P.  Just do so respectfully.

Also, are you jblank's brother?  I thought I heard that you were a long time ago, but I can't remember.  I know jblank has a brother who posts on GT/OO.
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« Reply #65 on: July 25, 2013, 08:35:03 PM »

Eco sent me a nice enough pm (although he did happen to mention that our country needs to become a conservative nation again.  icon_lol ) so I think he feels badly about the angry outbursts.  Let's let bygones be bygones....

....until we actually encounter a bygone.  Then it's go time.  Those sons of bitches are filth.  The only good bygone is a dead bygone, you ask me.
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« Reply #66 on: July 25, 2013, 08:35:47 PM »

I contemplated how to end my time here, and honestly feel my message to hep applies to many of you.


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« Reply #67 on: July 25, 2013, 08:38:12 PM »

What's with the carrot top avatar?   icon_confused

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« Reply #68 on: July 25, 2013, 09:40:46 PM »

At two points in my life, my best friend or friend(s) have been my polar opposites as far as political beliefs.  My best friends circa 1998 had a bumper sticker that said "dual airbags" next to caricatures of of the Clintons.  My best friend today has political views possibly around 80-90% compatible with Eco's.

Mostly we just avoid talking about politics with each other, but it does come up.  When we do, we just seem to know that there's little to no chance that we'll completely change the other's opinion, so it's instead it becomes a discussion to better understand how/why the other could possibly have whatever opinion we're talking about.  "How can you think Policy X would work better than Policy Y?  Don't you think ABC will happen?!" "Well ABC might happen but it will be mitigated by DEF."  "DEF?  That's a pipe dream!"  "DEF would work if we'd just change GHI!" and so forth.  It can be really interesting and rewarding when the discussion leads us to find some single fundamental small seed of opinion we disagree on that leads to all the rest of the more complex aspects of the issue. 

While there may be some friendly teasing or ribbing, it's all respectful.  We know there's more to each other than just political views, because of course there's something or other that makes us want to be friends.   
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« Reply #69 on: July 25, 2013, 11:13:05 PM »

Quote from: naednek on July 25, 2013, 08:34:04 PM

Eco, you're more than welcome to post in R&P.  Just do so respectfully.

Also, are you jblank's brother?  I thought I heard that you were a long time ago, but I can't remember.  I know jblank has a brother who posts on GT/OO.
That was Yankeeman. I don't think he's posted in years.
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« Reply #70 on: July 25, 2013, 11:23:43 PM »

Quote from: Captain Caveman on July 25, 2013, 11:13:05 PM

Quote from: naednek on July 25, 2013, 08:34:04 PM

Eco, you're more than welcome to post in R&P.  Just do so respectfully.

Also, are you jblank's brother?  I thought I heard that you were a long time ago, but I can't remember.  I know jblank has a brother who posts on GT/OO.
That was Yankeeman. I don't think he's posted in years.

Ah that's right.  Thanks!
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« Reply #71 on: July 26, 2013, 03:14:06 AM »

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 25, 2013, 08:18:54 PM

I'll leave this forum (R&P)  for good.  Quote masters, feel free to hold me to it.

Self-deportation...it works!  nod

I never had a problem with Eco myself, although as I said earlier the predictable dynamics became tiresome after too much repetition. I won't miss the drama but I will miss the dissenting voice. 
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« Reply #72 on: July 26, 2013, 08:52:50 PM »

Quote from: Ironrod on July 26, 2013, 03:14:06 AM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 25, 2013, 08:18:54 PM

I'll leave this forum (R&P)  for good.  Quote masters, feel free to hold me to it.

Self-deportation...it works!  nod

I never had a problem with Eco myself, although as I said earlier the predictable dynamics became tiresome after too much repetition. I won't miss the drama but I will miss the dissenting voice. 

Self deprecation is better.
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« Reply #73 on: July 26, 2013, 10:12:34 PM »

Quote from: Pyperkub on July 26, 2013, 08:52:50 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on July 26, 2013, 03:14:06 AM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 25, 2013, 08:18:54 PM

I'll leave this forum (R&P)  for good.  Quote masters, feel free to hold me to it.

Self-deportation...it works!  nod

I never had a problem with Eco myself, although as I said earlier the predictable dynamics became tiresome after too much repetition. I won't miss the drama but I will miss the dissenting voice. 

Self deprecation is better.

but self flagellation is funnier.
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« Reply #74 on: July 26, 2013, 10:17:48 PM »

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Quote from: Ironrod on July 26, 2013, 03:14:06 AM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 25, 2013, 08:18:54 PM

I'll leave this forum (R&P)  for good.  Quote masters, feel free to hold me to it.

Self-deportation...it works!  nod

I never had a problem with Eco myself, although as I said earlier the predictable dynamics became tiresome after too much repetition. I won't miss the drama but I will miss the dissenting voice. 

Self deprecation is better.

I'm not clever enough to come up with a witty followup.   icon_frown
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« Reply #75 on: July 26, 2013, 11:43:27 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on July 26, 2013, 10:17:48 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on July 26, 2013, 08:52:50 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on July 26, 2013, 03:14:06 AM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 25, 2013, 08:18:54 PM

I'll leave this forum (R&P)  for good.  Quote masters, feel free to hold me to it.

Self-deportation...it works!  nod

I never had a problem with Eco myself, although as I said earlier the predictable dynamics became tiresome after too much repetition. I won't miss the drama but I will miss the dissenting voice. 

Self deprecation is better.

I'm not clever enough to come up with a witty followup.   icon_frown

but self flatulation stinks.
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« Reply #76 on: August 13, 2013, 09:18:42 AM »

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« Reply #77 on: August 13, 2013, 09:52:01 AM »

Quote from: Harpua3 on August 13, 2013, 09:18:42 AM

God bless MERICA!

MURICA!!!!
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« Reply #78 on: August 13, 2013, 12:17:34 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on August 13, 2013, 09:52:01 AM

Quote from: Harpua3 on August 13, 2013, 09:18:42 AM

God bless MERICA!

MURICA!!!!

...FUCK YEAH!!
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« Reply #79 on: August 13, 2013, 08:31:43 PM »

Ban me from this ghost town shithole of ignorant political beliefs, please.


This whole thing was reminiscent of telling my 5 year old to stop tattling on my 3 year old, and that isn't surprising.

Lol (ban me Ron please, you tried... And I even tried to help you, and In reality I enjoyed my time here especially playing COD back in the day, but this ghost town shithole isn't worth trying to keep alive and I would more consider it an insult if you don't ban me).

I pray this is my last allowed post here.  Those of you I had a great time playing COD with back in the day, thank you for a great time.

Been here since GG, and happy to get the hell out.  Good luck to you and yours.

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