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« on: May 18, 2013, 03:34:20 AM »

That's what conservatives call Obama, and they really believe it. But I don't think so. The center drifted way to the right from the 1980s through the 2000s. The pendulum is swinging back now, but the center is still farther right than it was when I grew up. Jimmy Carter was more liberal than Obama. JFK might have been, too, although his presidency didn't last long enough to find out. LBJ's Great Society was certainly to the left of Obama. Obama gave us a conservative-designed, market-based healthcare reform, but I don't see a War on Poverty or Civil Rights Act or anything similarly transformative.

So who do you think was the most liberal president of all time?

I would say FDR, with the proviso that his foundational social welfare programs were more of a pragmatic response to the Depression and the threat of American communism than an ideology.
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2013, 03:36:28 AM »

Gotta go with Nixon. Fuckin' EPA!
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2013, 04:04:48 AM »

Nope.  Clinton.  He was pretty liberal when it came to the ladies.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2013, 06:13:47 AM »

Quote from: Captain Caveman on May 18, 2013, 03:36:28 AM

Gotta go with Nixon. Fuckin' EPA!

Have we ever had a more socialist experiment in the market economy than Nixon's wage/price controls?
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2013, 01:25:01 PM »

Not even sure why we're having this discussion.  It's well established fact that Obama is the libbiest lib that ever libbed.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2013, 10:20:10 PM »

I was kind of hoping that somebody would try to make that case.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2013, 03:23:26 PM »

You could almost argue that all Presidents before Reagan, whether Republican or Democrat were more liberal than Obama.
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