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« on: September 15, 2005, 05:52:30 PM »

So, I have two "favorites" that I detest.  

One is somewhat general, in that it involves any stupid scenes with diabetics in them, where the tiniest amount of research would have fixed it.  Like, when diabetics are shown shooting up like a heroin junkie - we don't take shots in veins, only just under the skin, or rarely into a muscle, but never in the area inside the elbow.  Also, if you're suddenly sweating and incoherent - it's an insulin reaction, you need sugar - not another shot.  I've seen these flaws in numerous movies and a few TV shows.  WTF? It just takes you out of the scene when you see simple stuff like that.

Here's one that's more specific - although there are plenty of police work flaws in shows, this is my personal makes-me-crazy one:  Officer Joe Blow is approaching a suspect, usually in plain clothes.  When he (sigh, or she) is 50 feet away, he identifies himself as "Police!" - or he shouts out the suspect's name...  Oh, what a surprise, they run!  Why on earth would anyone do it that way?  Get as close as possible without alerting the person, unless you really need the exercise, or a work-related disability!  Crimeny!!!  :evil:

So, which ones haven't I noticed cz I have no experience in the particular subject...?
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2005, 06:00:24 PM »

When the cop gets 'too close' to the case and has to be re-assigned or turn in his gun and badge then somehow gets more help than when he was on the case.

Worst EVER!!
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2005, 06:04:30 PM »

I just detest when my favorite shows suddenly have to have a music-centric show.  My wife was watching Charmed (and she loves that show) and just turned it off when they did a musical.  They did it to Buffy, to Angel, to Star Trek...ugh, just aweful.

As for mistakes, its gunplay.  Why bother carrying a gun if you are THAT bad of a shot??  If our police force was THAT bad we'd be in a world of hurt.
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2005, 06:04:59 PM »

Woman gets chased by bad guy inside her house.  Is able to run around and avoid him, running RIGHT PAST THE FRONT DOOR long enough to run.....  INTO HER BEDROOM!

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2005, 06:05:59 PM »

If I see another TV or movie psychiatrist, psychotherapist or counselor sleep with one of their patients/clients I'm going to have to hurt somebody.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2005, 06:12:21 PM »

I can top all others: whatever jackass decided that if we want to watch American Football on Monday night, we must like listening to talentless rednecks.

 :evil: I want to kill the ass who decided this.  Just. Play. The. Damn. Game.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2005, 06:36:46 PM »

I... don't watch enough television to have any pet peeves about it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2005, 07:34:08 PM »

banana or gun
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2005, 07:45:58 PM »

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I can top all others: whatever jackass decided that if we want to watch American Football on Monday night, we must like listening to talentless rednecks


Madden?  :wink:
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2005, 07:49:59 PM »

I have lots of pet peeves about this stuff.

One that came to mind right away:

When a character on a show suddenly has this obsession over something we've NEVER heard this character mention before.   It is usually done when there is a certain plotliine or guest star that they want on the show.  

For instance,  a character will start talking about a supermodel like he's a stalker or something, then what do you know?  That exact supermodel shows up in the episode! Who would've thought? Of course, we've never heard that character refer to her before, and we never will again(unless she wants to guest again), but he is obsessed with her dammit!

Or how about the 'Every character on this show will have to talk to a shrink' episode?    That's obviously done only to make the actors happy, since they will each get their big dramatic moment when they spill their guts to the shrink.  

Finally, characters never use a mouse when operating a computer.  The cops ask a tech to run a search on 'John Doe', you'd think the only typing involved would be seven keypresses.  But no!  We get a bunch of typing, the screen flashes, then he starts typing like crazy again.  The screen flashes again and the tech points and says "there's your man" as he pushes ONE more button for a printout.   Where's all the mouse clicks?
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2005, 07:57:20 PM »

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Finally, characters never use a mouse when operating a computer. The cops ask a tech to run a search on 'John Doe', you'd think the only typing involved would be seven keypresses. But no! We get a bunch of typing, the screen flashes, then he starts typing like crazy again. The screen flashes again and the tech points and says "there's your man" as he pushes ONE more button for a printout. Where's all the mouse clicks?

Oh, yeah, didn't think of that one - great example!

I thought of another:  how many people order a drink, take two sips, then leave it on the table or counter?  Finish the damn thing, you paid for it!  I don't care if it's soda, coffee, or liquor - drink it damnit!  :roll:
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2005, 08:08:24 PM »

Talking a solid, albeit fantastical show and introducing elements that not only don't add anything, but actually compound existing problems to the point where the show can never recover. Ex: Alias-post Season 2 finale; X-Files post introduction of the Black Oil.

This is why I have hope fo LOST's second season - JJ Abrams is going to be very busy with Mission Impossible 3 so will have little time for the show beyond cursory touches here and there. I trust in show runners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse more than him.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2005, 08:41:42 PM »

99% of stuff in TV and movies involving computers is bullshit.  Especially on those cop shows.

Fortunately, Ive learned to suspend my disbelief, since 99% of people who I tell the about the discrepancy could care less.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2005, 08:47:29 PM »

Nobody hardly ever picks up a gun or ammo.
People see blood on the ground and they have to taste it.
They hear a noise outside in the dark.They have to go look.Unually only armed with a banana.
On those rare occasions when somebody does use a gun they've found and it's a machine pistol,machine gun,bazooka,antiaircraft weapon,nuclear bomb....they always know how to use it.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2005, 09:12:20 PM »

To follow up on the gun thing, there is this:

The hero, who we have seen use a gun, is captured and defenseless.  Though some clever means, he escapes and grabs a gun- even though he has time, he doesn't bother to check it to see if it is loaded or even operable.  

Later he runs into the bad guy, who laughs and says 'go ahead, shoot me'(because of course the bad guy knows darn well the state of that gun).  At that point the hero finds out that the gun is A)unloaded or B)doesn't work at all.  I'm not even gonna bring up the whole 'is the safety on or off' issue.

Sayid, on Lost, did this last season when he grabbed the French woman's rifle.  ARGH!  He was even in the military for crying out loud!
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2005, 09:47:59 PM »

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Finally, characters never use a mouse when operating a computer.  The cops ask a tech to run a search on 'John Doe', you'd think the only typing involved would be seven keypresses.  But no!  We get a bunch of typing, the screen flashes, then he starts typing like crazy again.  The screen flashes again and the tech points and says "there's your man" as he pushes ONE more button for a printout.   Where's all the mouse clicks?

"Hello, computer."

"Use the mouse."

*talks into the mouse* "Hello, computer."

"Use the keyboard..."

"Ah, the keyboard..." *goes nuts* biggrin
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2005, 10:36:04 PM »

I hate hearing someone on tv say 'littlest' Its not a word people! or it was'nt when I was in school. For gods sake say smallest.

Also the word 'learnt' everyone uses that. It was'nt a word and still does'nt look or sound like one to me..its learned not learnt.
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2005, 10:48:03 PM »

Daehawk, the reason I wouldn't list something like that is because in real life people don't always use correct language.  So why should we expect characters to?

So while it's a good general peeve, I don't know that it falls into the 'flaw' category.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2005, 11:03:01 PM »

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I hate hearing someone on tv say 'littlest' Its not a word people! or it was'nt when I was in school. For gods sake say smallest.

Also the word 'learnt' everyone uses that. It was'nt a word and still does'nt look or sound like one to me..its learned not learnt.


"littlest" and "learnt" are both proper words.
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2005, 11:04:54 PM »

I really hate in movies when the boom mic comes down to just kill the scene.

Example: Spiderman: When uncle Ben and aunt May are first seen, in the kitchen, as Ben walks out into the dining area, just above the door frame the boom mike is just visible. At first I thought it was a spider crawling up the wall, but then it came back down again, just a bit. It bobs up and down several times during this scene.
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2005, 11:55:48 PM »

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Finally, characters never use a mouse when operating a computer. The cops ask a tech to run a search on 'John Doe', you'd think the only typing involved would be seven keypresses. But no! We get a bunch of typing, the screen flashes, then he starts typing like crazy again. The screen flashes again and the tech points and says "there's your man" as he pushes ONE more button for a printout. Where's all the mouse clicks?


Ugh...or even worse, they are supposed to be the mechauber-hacker and you hear a thousand key presses but you get this on the screen:

S         e           a           r         c          h
(with like 3 seconds between each letter)
Then they go on to explain it like its not painfully obvious at this point.  Also of note, despite Interpol having literally millions people in their database it takes but seconds to find the appropriate person, randomly of course.
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2005, 12:09:23 AM »

Chekov's Gun

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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2005, 01:26:34 AM »

I guess one of my peeves is the opposite of Chekov's gun.  The one where something we've never heard a character mention before, at all, is suddenly presented to us as something he is obsessed with/is an expert on/can't get enough off.

How hard can it be to work in a quick line early in the season for a character, like "Hey Bob, playing softball this weekend?"?  That way we understand Bob is into sports.

Then later, if they get an athlete to guest star on the show, when Bob acts all excited viewers understand why.  Instead of the viewer thinking "Gee, Bob was that much of a sports nut? I would've never figured that."

I think alot of these problems are related to the show's producers not planning it out in advance.  Joss Whedon always had Buffy sketched out a year or so in advance, so BTVS always had great foreshadowing and references.

Lost's first season was obviously made up as they went along, so we had goofy stuff like a trained elite soldier (Sayid) holding a useless rifle in a key moment.
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2005, 02:00:43 AM »

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Finally, characters never use a mouse when operating a computer.  The cops ask a tech to run a search on 'John Doe', you'd think the only typing involved would be seven keypresses.  But no!  We get a bunch of typing, the screen flashes, then he starts typing like crazy again.  The screen flashes again and the tech points and says "there's your man" as he pushes ONE more button for a printout.   Where's all the mouse clicks?

"Hello, computer."

"Use the mouse."

*talks into the mouse* "Hello, computer."

"Use the keyboard..."

"Ah, the keyboard..." *goes nuts* biggrin


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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2005, 02:26:41 AM »

Cars that explode after going off a cliff,even before hitting the ground.
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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2005, 03:15:40 AM »

i hate in gunfights where the hero can pull off a perfect headshot everytime against an overwhelming group of enemy, while the bad guys are firing off an ungodly amount of shots with automatic weapons, and none of them hit the hero, who's hiding behind a cardboard box......

well, I'm exaggerating about the cardboard box...

that and also how TV crime shows can now take a fuzzy, pixelated frame from a surveillance camera and "enhance" it so they can read the license plate off some car that's in the background...
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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2005, 03:23:00 AM »

Most TV shows and movies should just have the badguys yell "Cobra!!!!!" while they shoot at the good guys.
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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2005, 04:14:58 AM »

I hate it when shows and movies don't show enough booty.

Totally nude isn't always necessary neither.....bikini's work  :twisted:
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« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2005, 04:28:19 AM »

Ok how about this one. When theres a car chase and cars spin thier wheels in the dirt they have a screeching sound like they are peeling out on asphalt.
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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2005, 04:44:43 AM »

Or how people drive on sidewalks and EVERYONE jumps out of the way.
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« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2005, 06:39:59 AM »

Fragment grenades that explode into huge fireballs.


In driving scenes, people who never look at the road. That, or they rock the steering wheel back and forth thinking that it looks like they're driving. I'm looking at your crappy driving performance in Cliffhanger Sly. :roll:


And because I'm a mechanic, anything inaccurate related to vehicle operation that a little bit of research would have corrected.
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« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2005, 01:26:12 PM »

I hate the fact that nudity is completely taboo, however excessive violence is considered ok for kids, well, maybe for 14year olds. A nipple?? DEAR GOD WHY?! Only 18+ can enjoy that, and then they're perverts and dregs.

 :roll:

I'm not talking porn here, I'm talking about using tasteful expression to convey whatever flavor they're trying to bring across. I mean, just because you like to season your eggs doesn't mean you're saddling up to a salt-lick.

The other pet peeve I have is the "suspend disbelief on X premise" and then they go and fuck with Y and Z for no apparent reason.

Deep Blue Sea, for instance. I mean, COME ON! Michael Bay isn't that bad in comparison.
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« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2005, 01:59:16 PM »

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One is somewhat general, in that it involves any stupid scenes with diabetics in them, where the tiniest amount of research would have fixed it.


Prison Break's pilot has the main character registered as a Type I diabetic.  He isn't, so he was reacting poorly to the insulin injections.  Nice bit of accuracty there.  However, it appears that he only goes in for injectons every three or four days.  Doh!  And when the doc noticed he was reacting like someone who isn't a Type I, she decides she'll "run a test" the next time he's in.  What was the test?  Your standard finger-prick blood glucose test.  Double-Doh!  With diabetes more and more common, you'd think SOMEBODY connected to the show could've pulled the writer or director aside and said, "Not to be an ass, but..."

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i hate in gunfights where the hero can pull off a perfect headshot everytime against an overwhelming group of enemy, while the bad guys are firing off an ungodly amount of shots with automatic weapons, and none of them hit the hero, who's hiding behind a cardboard box......


The Punisher (Dolph Lundgren version) has my favorite example of this.  I'm a little fuzzy on the details, but I remember a shit-ton of machine guns firing at a boat full of ninjas.  The machine guns couldn't hit anything, but the ninjas were throwing caltrops into peoples eyes from 50 yards away.

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that and also how TV crime shows can now take a fuzzy, pixelated frame from a surveillance camera and "enhance" it so they can read the license plate off some car that's in the background...


This one is also on my personal list.  Yet I continue to watch Las Vegas...  :?  biggrin
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« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2005, 05:45:00 PM »

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This one is also on my personal list. Yet I continue to watch Las Vegas...  


Reason Number One:



Reason Number Two:



Reason Number Three:



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« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2005, 06:26:14 PM »

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I hate the fact that nudity is completely taboo, however excessive violence is considered ok for kids, well, maybe for 14year olds. A nipple?? DEAR GOD WHY?! Only 18+ can enjoy that, and then they're perverts and dregs.

 :roll:

I'm not talking porn here, I'm talking about using tasteful expression to convey whatever flavor they're trying to bring across. I mean, just because you like to season your eggs doesn't mean you're saddling up to a salt-lick.


Good grief, not this worn out gripe yet again...
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2005, 06:32:30 PM »

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I hate the fact that nudity is completely taboo, however excessive violence is considered ok for kids, well, maybe for 14year olds. A nipple?? DEAR GOD WHY?! Only 18+ can enjoy that, and then they're perverts and dregs.

 :roll:

I'm not talking porn here, I'm talking about using tasteful expression to convey whatever flavor they're trying to bring across. I mean, just because you like to season your eggs doesn't mean you're saddling up to a salt-lick.


Good grief, not this worn out gripe yet again...


Good grief, not the people trying to convince us that this isn't completely and utterly hypocritical again!!
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2005, 07:32:01 PM »

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Good grief, not this worn out gripe yet again...


Well Charlie Brown, have you ever watched european television? They tend to do things a little differently :

1) they don't avoid nudity where appropriate.
2) when the series is over they end it.

And as far as WORN OUT, no one else has mentioned this point in this thread. If I'm to understand the point of this topic, it's to share, not drop one-line complaints about other people's posted gripe. You obviously have an opinion on the topic; I'm guessing it rests in the puritan camp.

BOOBIES!!!  :shock: Is that what you expect of us? I'd rather look at a well-put-together love scene over a grizzly murder scene any day.
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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2005, 08:16:12 PM »



The Power Glove! That thing was worthless (I know, I got it as a present).


More generally though, I hate it when they show people playing video games. The kids are always mashing crazy buttons and twisting the controller around like mad. There are few shows that present it accurately (The Sopranos did, if I remember correctly).
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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2005, 07:14:19 AM »

You mean game players don't really look constipated while using an NGage?
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« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2005, 02:10:43 PM »

I watched the tv show "Bones" last night, since I'm a CSI addict (except the Miami one, can's handle the Capt. Kirk acting of the lead)...

It was pretty bad, but they also tossed in two of my pet peeves.  One's been noted already, but wow, did they overdo it:: the passenger shows the driver of the car something, and the rest of the scene was as if it was taking place in a living room.  He didn't even look up from the item often enough to be polite in company, let alone to see what  his car might be barreling into. :?

The other one just makes me laugh - ever notice when people pull up in a car, in no particular frenzy, then leave the headlights on when they leave the car?  "Bones" did it one better - she drove up with the full set of bright rooftop "spotlights" (four or five bright lights across the top front of the cab roof) AND the headlights.  Then left the car, in a little haste, but not running.  WTH? To boot, they usually turn the car off!  :roll:
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