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« on: July 28, 2014, 12:23:14 PM »

I saw an article last week (I cannot remember where and my google fu is failing me) that stated some court ruled that carriers will no longer be allowed to dictate which phones can and can't be used on their networks.

Anyone see this? And does it mean that we can now use any phone on any network?

I'd like your guys' analysis on this as my Droid 4 is sloooowllly losing the battle with time and I'd like to get whichever phone I think is the best one.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 06:12:04 PM »

It still needs to go through the Senate, where they will attach more crap to it and then pass it on the President for approval. Anything could happen with this government, so who knows if it will make it through.

One thing though, aren't At&T and Verizon on two different network types? So you still couldn't switch easily, at least between those two.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2014, 08:36:53 PM »

Quote from: Lee on July 28, 2014, 06:12:04 PM

One thing though, aren't At&T and Verizon on two different network types? So you still couldn't switch easily, at least between those two.
You can't switch at all with that.

Verizon/Sprint is mostly US (with some Mexico and Canada access) based. And then there's AT&T/T-Mobile (worldwide availability). The frequencies used are not compatible with each other at all.

So technically you could go from Verizon to Sprint and back. Or you could go from AT&T to T-Mobile and back. But that's it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 08:44:56 PM »

In 3g areas, that's the case.  4G is the same tech for all the major US carriers.  But of course, 4G is still in the rollout stages, so it's not reliable to attempt to cross over between different 3G systems.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 03:47:12 AM »

I'm pretty sure that different carriers use different parts of the 4G spectrum though. Not all 4G phones operate on the same frequency, and the variation is how carriers restrict you to their phones.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 04:07:29 AM »

So in the end it means we will be able to buy and use whatever phone we want, for use on our network of choice. We won't have to go through the network's store to get the phone. BUT, since phones will only work with one or two of the networks you are still very limited in that you can't just keep one phone and switch networks. Also, since phone companies charge the same monthly charges regardless of your contract status, it would be cheapest to buy it through your network and just get the contract. The latter being really important if you like to have the newest and greatest phones that run $500+.

It's an improvement sure, it gives the consumer some choices, but it doesn't seem like it really matter in the near future. Maybe it will shake things up in the long run?

Edit: After reading some, this only means you can unlock a phone you bought from a carrier, which seems almost pointless. It's good they are changing it, but it really seems to mean very little to the average person.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 04:38:00 PM »

yeah, I've never understood the drive to buy a phone full price either unless you travel out of the country a lot.  Otherwise, you pay the same monthly rate I do as a subscriber but paid more for your phone.  I know it's due to the companies not wanting to cut profits though. 

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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 05:59:03 PM »

Quote from: Caine on July 30, 2014, 04:38:00 PM

yeah, I've never understood the drive to buy a phone full price either unless you travel out of the country a lot.  Otherwise, you pay the same monthly rate I do as a subscriber but paid more for your phone.  I know it's due to the companies not wanting to cut profits though. 



Actually, I use a out-of-contract phone and paying $35 per month for unlimited everything. Is that the same price as your in-contract plan?

I generally keep my phone for 3-4 years, so it balances out in about 20 months, then it's pure savings after that.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 06:03:31 PM »

Quote from: Caine on July 30, 2014, 04:38:00 PM

yeah, I've never understood the drive to buy a phone full price either unless you travel out of the country a lot.  Otherwise, you pay the same monthly rate I do as a subscriber but paid more for your phone.  I know it's due to the companies not wanting to cut profits though. 

I buy mine because none of the carriers sell a subsidized phone without a data plan.  I don't use data at all.  At work and home I have wi-fi and I can live without the times between.  A plan without data is $20 less than one with data.  Over the course of two years that is $480.  My Google Nexus 5 was $350.  So I saved $130 by not getting a "subsidized" phone. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2014, 07:29:23 PM »

Quote from: ravenvii on July 30, 2014, 05:59:03 PM

Quote from: Caine on July 30, 2014, 04:38:00 PM

yeah, I've never understood the drive to buy a phone full price either unless you travel out of the country a lot.  Otherwise, you pay the same monthly rate I do as a subscriber but paid more for your phone.  I know it's due to the companies not wanting to cut profits though. 



Actually, I use a out-of-contract phone and paying $35 per month for unlimited everything. Is that the same price as your in-contract plan?

I generally keep my phone for 3-4 years, so it balances out in about 20 months, then it's pure savings after that.

Who are you using? Do you have data? Verizon I pay the same $90 whether my contract is up or not. And use the same phone for 3-4 years? Why?! I would have a new phone every year if I could.  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2014, 02:14:53 PM »

Quote from: ravenvii on July 30, 2014, 05:59:03 PM

Quote from: Caine on July 30, 2014, 04:38:00 PM

yeah, I've never understood the drive to buy a phone full price either unless you travel out of the country a lot.  Otherwise, you pay the same monthly rate I do as a subscriber but paid more for your phone.  I know it's due to the companies not wanting to cut profits though. 



Actually, I use a out-of-contract phone and paying $35 per month for unlimited everything. Is that the same price as your in-contract plan?

I generally keep my phone for 3-4 years, so it balances out in about 20 months, then it's pure savings after that.
Yeah, there must be a lot of people like me who want a high end phone but want to be able to save money by not using the high cost contracts which comes with high end phones. I don't mind spending $400 for a unlocked phone if it allows me to use a service where I only have to pay $20 a month which suits my needs.
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2014, 05:25:24 PM »

But don't those cheap services have limited networks? And what about 4G/LTE? I have Verizon and seem to get service no matter how far out in the middle of no where it am.
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