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« on: December 14, 2008, 05:42:24 PM »

Here it comes: the first winter blast to hit the Portland area this year. It was 33 when I got up this morning, and that's supposedly going to be the warmest it will be for about five days.

It's currently snowing big fluffy flakes and the temperature is supposed to drop to below 20 tonight.

Snowmen in a few hours? We'll see...

I'm sure the natural gas company is behind this - they upped their rates 14% last month.  mad
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2008, 06:46:59 PM »

Pfff. Amateurs.

It is currently -8 here.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2008, 07:07:23 PM »

it's 45 here.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2008, 07:47:00 PM »

We got caught in the snow last night coming back from a party. We were in my wife's front wheel drive CRV and couldn't make it up the two separate hills that would have gotten us home. Just kept spinning out and sliding back down. Luckily we didn't end up in a ditch or hit something. We parked the car at our local market and hiked a bit to the volunteer fire station. They called security who gave us a ride home. Fun stuff.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2008, 07:49:23 PM »

I had to turn on my air conditioner last night  ninja
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2008, 11:15:38 PM »

please keep it up there.  In Sacramento it's in the low 40's and rainy with wind.  It's cold.
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2008, 11:39:33 PM »

Quote from: naednek on December 14, 2008, 11:15:38 PM

please keep it up there.  In Sacramento it's in the low 40's and rainy with wind.  It's cold.

Cold is relative. Low 40's sound nice about now. But then if it was -8, 30 would sound nice.

I think it's coming your way in a few days. It's gotta go somewhere when we've had enough of it  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2008, 11:50:14 PM »

They're not keeping it, they sent it to TX.  Current temp is 73 just after sundown.  Tonight's low is expected to be tomorrow's high.   mad
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2008, 12:01:18 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 14, 2008, 11:50:14 PM

They're not keeping it, they sent it to TX.  Current temp is 73 just after sundown.  Tonight's low is expected to be tomorrow's high.   mad

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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2008, 02:11:57 AM »

I just went and shoveled the walk again... it's -13 now.
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2008, 02:19:01 AM »

ugh... tomorrow we're supposed to have a high of 51 degrees, which we are supposed to hit at 9am and then it drops for the rest of the day.  doesn't look like it's going to be a white X-mas either.
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2008, 02:23:28 AM »

50 degrees in Chicago right now.

Feels like summer.  (not Chicago summer)
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2008, 03:46:12 AM »

The "normal winter for the rest of the US" weather is in Seattle as well.  The problem in this region with this kind of weather is that you get rain/slush that then freezes and gets snowed on, with is worse than the normal winter stuff other parts of the country get.  Plus, the native borns and the Californians in this area have little clue on how to drive in this, particularly since most don't have any reason to own actual snow tires.

Tommorrow's commute will be fun.  I'm glad I can watch and don't have to participate.
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2008, 04:06:37 AM »

Wah Wah.

Welcome to Winnipeg:
Code:
Wind chill warning in effect.

Tonight
    Periods of light snow and local blowing snow ending overnight then cloudy. Wind north 30 km/h. Low minus 30. Extreme wind chill minus 44.
     
Monday
    Day: Clearing early in the morning. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the morning. High minus 28. Extreme wind chill minus 43.
    Night: Clear. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low minus 31. Extreme wind chill minus 43.
     
Tuesday
    Sunny. High minus 27.
     
Wednesday
    Sunny. Low minus 30. High minus 26.
     
Thursday
    A mix of sun and cloud with 40 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 28. High minus 23.
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2008, 04:19:06 AM »

We're having a nice mild global-warming winter so far. We're looking at temps near 60 and sunshine tomorrow, and we haven't had any snow or miserable temperatures at all yet.
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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2008, 04:20:18 AM »

Quote from: Purge on December 15, 2008, 04:06:37 AM

Wah Wah.

Welcome to Winnipeg:
Code:
Wind chill warning in effect.

Tonight
    Periods of light snow and local blowing snow ending overnight then cloudy. Wind north 30 km/h. Low minus 30. Extreme wind chill minus 44.
     
Monday
    Day: Clearing early in the morning. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the morning. High minus 28. Extreme wind chill minus 43.
    Night: Clear. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low minus 31. Extreme wind chill minus 43.
     
Tuesday
    Sunny. High minus 27.
     
Wednesday
    Sunny. Low minus 30. High minus 26.
     
Thursday
    A mix of sun and cloud with 40 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 28. High minus 23.

you and your whacky Celsius temperatures making it sound worse than it actually is  Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2008, 10:09:29 AM »

Quote from: Sarkus on December 15, 2008, 03:46:12 AM

The "normal winter for the rest of the US" weather is in Seattle as well.  The problem in this region with this kind of weather is that you get rain/slush that then freezes and gets snowed on, with is worse than the normal winter stuff other parts of the country get.  Plus, the native borns and the Californians in this area have little clue on how to drive in this, particularly since most don't have any reason to own actual snow tires.

Tommorrow's commute will be fun.  I'm glad I can watch and don't have to participate.

You just described Vancouver, Canada to a 'T'. Luckily the blast that hit Portland missed us and nailed Victoria instead. However, were in the midst of the same Pac NW cold front and I'm betting it gets down around -10 C tonight (about 15 F) Still relatively balmy compared to the rest of Canada. slywink
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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2008, 10:21:42 AM »

Quote from: Purge on December 15, 2008, 04:06:37 AM

Wah Wah.

Welcome to Winnipeg:
Code:
Wind chill warning in effect.

Tonight
    Periods of light snow and local blowing snow ending overnight then cloudy. Wind north 30 km/h. Low minus 30. Extreme wind chill minus 44.
     
Monday
    Day: Clearing early in the morning. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the morning. High minus 28. Extreme wind chill minus 43.
    Night: Clear. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low minus 31. Extreme wind chill minus 43.
     
Tuesday
    Sunny. High minus 27.
     
Wednesday
    Sunny. Low minus 30. High minus 26.
     
Thursday
    A mix of sun and cloud with 40 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 28. High minus 23.

What I find interesting is that when I was growing up here in Indiana, we often had temperatures similar though not quite as drastic.  We had many winters with -20 or so and lots of snow from Oct to March.  Now we rarely get below zero and snow doesn't show until Dec.

Summers are also much more tame though.  Used to have 90+ a lot, now we get one, maybe two weeks of 90+.

As much as I now dislike cold weather (used to love it), I do miss the extreme variety we used to have here.  We do still sometimes have snow in the morning, 70 at midday and snow at night though.

edit: heh, forgot you are in C.....   My comments are all in F, the CORRECT way to measure temperature... slywink
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2008, 11:38:55 AM »

What is minus-44 in Fahrenheit anyways? Like minus-105?  It was 10C here in Tokyo today-whatever that is in Fahrenheit.

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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2008, 12:10:22 PM »

Quote from: Canuck on December 15, 2008, 11:38:55 AM

What is minus-44 in Fahrenheit anyways? Like minus-105?  It was 10C here in Tokyo today-whatever that is in Fahrenheit.



-44) degrees Celsius = -47.2 degrees Fahrenheit

just type in -44 c in f into google.
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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2008, 03:27:37 PM »

Both temperature scales are linear, but with different slopes.  The intersection of both is at -40 degrees.  So -40 C = -40 F.

F = (C * 1.8 ) + 32

C= (F - 32) * (5 / 9)
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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2008, 03:31:02 PM »

Quote from: kratz on December 14, 2008, 06:46:59 PM

Pfff. Amateurs.

It is currently -8 here.

Same here.
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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2008, 03:36:08 PM »

It was 80 here yesterday and we were out working in the back yard in shorts. This morning the wind chill is 30.

Gotta love South Texas!

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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2008, 04:34:25 PM »

We just broke 0 this morning.  Up to 5!
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« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2008, 07:05:26 PM »

It is rather amusing how Portland totally shuts down due to a little bit of snow. While it's snowed almost a foot here and I still have work and a final to get to.
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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2008, 07:36:16 PM »

Guys, I had changed www.weatheroffice.com (Environment Canada) results to Fahrenheit before posting it.

 -40F = -40C
  32F =    0C  (temp at which water freezes)
104F =    40C

So look at it again:

Code:
Wind chill warning in effect.

Tonight
    Periods of light snow and local blowing snow ending overnight then cloudy. Wind north 30 km/h. Low minus 30. Extreme wind chill minus 44.
     
Monday
    Day: Clearing early in the morning. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the morning. High minus 28. Extreme wind chill minus 43.
    Night: Clear. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low minus 31. Extreme wind chill minus 43.
     
Tuesday
    Sunny. High minus 27.
     
Wednesday
    Sunny. Low minus 30. High minus 26.
     
Thursday
    A mix of sun and cloud with 40 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 28. High minus 23.

Oh, and this is what WindChill is. In case you were wondering.
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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2008, 07:44:15 PM »

Quote from: SkyLander on December 15, 2008, 07:05:26 PM

It is rather amusing how Portland totally shuts down due to a little bit of snow. While it's snowed almost a foot here and I still have work and a final to get to.

The same is true here in Vancouver, Canada and from what Sarkus describes; Seattle too. I'm amazed at some of the amazing driving antics I get to witness when they white stuff has fallen. Panicked, dead-break lockups on black ice is one of my favorites. The asshats owner's of SUV's-that-never-leave-city-limits are my favorites though, prooving that just because you own one doesn't mean you have a clue how to drive it.  icon_twisted
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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2008, 07:54:00 PM »

All of the californian transplants in colorado used to drive me nuts when it snowed... couldn't go up hills, couldn't brake, couldn't drive in a straight line... it once took me THREE HOURS to get from my office to my house, 9 miles away, because of about 4 inches of snow.  People were just abandoning their cars and walking away.  With the car still in the middle of the street.  It was unreal.

Here, people get around pretty well in it... everyone is used to it, or has enough good examples on what to do that they catch on.
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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2008, 08:00:23 PM »

one of the few benefits to living in the south end of the metro area.  no snow or icy roads, and although it's cold, i had a clear drive to work.  from the look of the parking lot, most of the locals had decent accumulation and tougher drives to work.  poor babies and their 30 minutes or less commute. 
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« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2008, 12:49:02 AM »

I skated home last night in my car - four miles of complete ice. What fun! Just drive slow - no biggie. Hardly anyone on the road when the weather is this bad. Today it's in the mid 20's and the wind is blowing - BBRR!! My new winter coat works great, but my pants don't anything to stop that chill - yikes! Luckily I'm in it for about 10 seconds. This evening I'm driving my wife to the grocery store - she won't drive in it. Should be a piece of cake.

Now for Wednesday: possible precipitation and we may just peek above freezing. That will probably mean more iced over skating rink type driving conditions as the sun goes down - what fun!
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« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2008, 04:49:33 AM »

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F = (C * 1.8 ) + 32

C= (F - 32) * (5 / 9)

Don't go all mathy on us. That stuff is powerless here.

It was 62 this afternoon. I drove with the top down.
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« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2008, 04:57:37 AM »

Quote from: Ironrod on December 16, 2008, 04:49:33 AM

It was 62 this afternoon. I drove with the top down.

now was that Fahrenheit or Celsius?  did you drive in MPH or KPH?
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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2008, 06:30:56 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on December 16, 2008, 04:57:37 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on December 16, 2008, 04:49:33 AM

It was 62 this afternoon. I drove with the top down.

now was that Fahrenheit or Celsius?  did you drive in MPH or KPH?

He drove in fathoms per fortnight.
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2008, 06:35:24 PM »

Quote from: Ironrod on December 16, 2008, 04:49:33 AM

It was 62 this afternoon. I drove with the top down.

That's just mean posting that here!! Our seven day forecast in Portland contains no numbers above freezing. I might as well just give my bank account balance to the natural gas company now.....
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« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2008, 05:23:15 AM »

Quote from: PaulBot on December 16, 2008, 06:35:24 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on December 16, 2008, 04:49:33 AM

It was 62 this afternoon. I drove with the top down.

That's just mean posting that here!! Our seven day forecast in Portland contains no numbers above freezing. I might as well just give my bank account balance to the natural gas company now.....


If it's any consolation we are back to our miserable normal weather again: Temps in the 30s and 40s with intermittent rain, sleet, and snow showers. At least it hasn't snowed much this year. I'm hoping it won't.
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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2008, 05:51:34 AM »

Its 23 here in Vermont.  I’ve been sad all week because my snow is all melting!  We had 6 inches last week.
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2008, 08:52:23 AM »

The forecast in Seattle is for freezing or below as the high all the way through this weekend, which will make it more than a week.  It has apparently been over 50 years since this area has had a stretch of consecutive days this cold for this long.  Plus we are getting more snow.

If I hadn't slipped and fell on the ice the other day and sprained my elbow (because no one de-iced the sidewalks the first day), I would find this all amusing.  icon_wink



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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2008, 09:26:00 PM »

Quote from: Sarkus on December 17, 2008, 08:52:23 AM

The forecast in Seattle is for freezing or below as the high all the way through this weekend, which will make it more than a week.  It has apparently been over 50 years since this area has had a stretch of consecutive days this cold for this long.  Plus we are getting more snow.

If I hadn't slipped and fell on the ice the other day and sprained my elbow (because no one de-iced the sidewalks the first day), I would find this all amusing.  icon_wink

It's the same up here in Greater Vancouver and the snowfalls been quite heavy; snowed for a good part of last night and all today. If it keeps up into the night the city will be shutdown tomorrow. To make it worse, I'm in a twin city immediately adjacent to Vancouver and for some reason we get far more snowfall; usually 1-1/2 to twice the amount in inches. All in all, it's not the typical picture you'd expect of the temperate 'wet coast.' slywink

I guess it's the 150 mile or so difference between Seattle and Vancouver, but we usually get a 2 week cold spell once or twice a decade and it's not uncommon for temperatures to be in the 10 - 15 F range during them.
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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2008, 09:34:37 PM »

i am watching the roads and the weather reports.  if the conditions that shut down olympia migrate any further north, i am out of here.  they can use me as off site support, those who remain that is.  the office is about 2/3rds empty right now.
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« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2008, 09:45:12 PM »

This is good:

We here in San Antonio were supposed to have freezing drizzle and rain Monday night. Not good with all of the elevated highways we have. So TXDot decided to be smart and put down this anti-freezing chemical they use to usually good effect. Only this time they didn't bother with putting a nice layer of sand down first.

No freezing rain or drizzle but the chemical did cause several hundred accidents and the closure of several highways the next morning.  icon_biggrin

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