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« Reply #80 on: January 23, 2009, 08:02:39 PM »

Quote from: Simon on January 22, 2009, 08:31:22 PM

What I've really liked recently:

Jekyll

Ooo, I thought I was the only person who had seen this one.  I watched it about a year ago and really enjoyed it. 
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« Reply #81 on: January 23, 2009, 08:05:04 PM »

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I've never really gotten into anime, and my wife is definitely not a fan.  Although I did watch a lot of Liquid Television on MTV as a kid and I loved the Aeon Flux series, but beyond that I've never really paid much attention to the genre.  Our most recent experience was with the film "Grave of the Fireflies", and while it was an amazing film, it's difficult for both of us to accept animated features being so depressing and grim.  As a film it was stellar, but for entertainment value we both were left feeling a bit down. 

I'm just apprehensive of anime in general because it is very stylized visually and the stories can be a bit unusual.  After "Grave of the Fireflies" I doubt I'll get my wife to try anime again. 

If you're using Grave of the Fireflies as your basis for all anime, you're doing it all wrong.  Animation in Japan covers vastly more ground and subject matter than it does in the US; here, that story would have been told using real actors.  There, pretty much anything is fair game for animation.

For instance, a movie like Spirited Away or a show like Cowboy Bebop are as far away from the subject matter of Grave of the Fireflies as you can possibly get, and to dismiss them simply because of one movie is unwise.
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« Reply #82 on: January 23, 2009, 08:07:19 PM »

I'd say watch Firefly first since you already said you were picking it up.  If you like it, give Cowboy Bebop a try.
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« Reply #83 on: January 23, 2009, 08:11:25 PM »

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Quote from: PeteRock on January 23, 2009, 07:50:48 PM


I've never really gotten into anime, and my wife is definitely not a fan.  Although I did watch a lot of Liquid Television on MTV as a kid and I loved the Aeon Flux series, but beyond that I've never really paid much attention to the genre.  Our most recent experience was with the film "Grave of the Fireflies", and while it was an amazing film, it's difficult for both of us to accept animated features being so depressing and grim.  As a film it was stellar, but for entertainment value we both were left feeling a bit down. 

I'm just apprehensive of anime in general because it is very stylized visually and the stories can be a bit unusual.  After "Grave of the Fireflies" I doubt I'll get my wife to try anime again. 

If you're using Grave of the Fireflies as your basis for all anime, you're doing it all wrong.  Animation in Japan covers vastly more ground and subject matter than it does in the US; here, that story would have been told using real actors.  There, pretty much anything is fair game for animation.

For instance, a movie like Spirited Away or a show like Cowboy Bebop are as far away from the subject matter of Grave of the Fireflies as you can possibly get, and to dismiss them simply because of one movie is unwise.

It's not that I'm dismissing anime in general, but it has never really interested me.  And it is difficult to jump into such a stylized and extensive genre with minimal familiarity or experience.  I can't keep up with prime-time television programs, and I'm just not quite ready to make the jump to anime.  It seems to be a bit overwhelming. 
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« Reply #84 on: January 23, 2009, 08:11:35 PM »

And don't forget the Serenity movie after you've finished Firefly.
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« Reply #85 on: January 23, 2009, 08:20:39 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on January 23, 2009, 08:11:35 PM

And don't forget the Serenity movie after you've finished Firefly.

I now have both the series and the film.  I wouldn't dream of watching one without the other.  I'm a completionist when it comes to TV series and films.  Regardless of whether later seasons of 24 are any better or worse than prior, I will have to see them all. 
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« Reply #86 on: January 23, 2009, 08:21:06 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on January 23, 2009, 08:07:19 PM

I'd say watch Firefly first since you already said you were picking it up.  If you like it, give Cowboy Bebop a try.

Cowboy Bebop > Firefly.  And this comes from someone who watched both.
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« Reply #87 on: January 24, 2009, 12:19:30 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on January 23, 2009, 08:11:35 PM

And don't forget the Serenity movie after you've finished Firefly.

I disagree vehemently with this statement.  Following a great series with 'Buffy in Space' was a terrible choice, period.

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« Reply #88 on: January 24, 2009, 01:57:23 AM »

Quote from: pr0ner on January 23, 2009, 08:21:06 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on January 23, 2009, 08:07:19 PM

I'd say watch Firefly first since you already said you were picking it up.  If you like it, give Cowboy Bebop a try.

Cowboy Bebop > Firefly.  And this comes from someone who watched both.

I watched both and loved Firefly but didn't think Cowboy Bebop was all that.
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« Reply #89 on: January 24, 2009, 04:51:30 AM »

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Quote from: Simon on January 22, 2009, 08:31:22 PM

What I've really liked recently:

Jekyll

Ooo, I thought I was the only person who had seen this one.  I watched it about a year ago and really enjoyed it. 

Nope.  I loved it as well.  Though the last episode wasn't quite as good as the previous ones.

BTW - Michelle Ryan from Jekyll will be the Doctor's companion for at least one of the upcoming Doctor Who specials.

Also BTW - Pete watch Doctor who (the new series).
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« Reply #90 on: January 24, 2009, 01:53:31 PM »

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« Reply #91 on: January 27, 2009, 05:51:52 PM »

Anyone have any thoughts on Rescue Me?
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« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2009, 06:10:05 PM »

Quote from: corruptrelic on January 23, 2009, 12:44:49 AM

Someone recommended Deep Space Nine, I'd take it a step further to something better and recommend Star Trek Voyager! I've tried watching DS9 but just never cared for it.
Voyager on the other hand, just about every episode I've enjoyed. Always something new and interesting happening with the crew.

If it makes it more entertaining, please read the below in the voice of the comic book guy character from the Simpsons...

I respectively disagree. Voyager is very monster of the week oriented, while Deep Space Nine has much better character development. Plus Janeway got on my nerves real quickly.

...end comic book guy rant.

Let me echo all those recommending The Wire. I am on the 3rd season of this show and love it. It really is different from just about every other HBO or cable show I can think of. The best comparison I can make is to say it's like "NYPD Blue," but with the gloves off and more of an overarching story.

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« Reply #93 on: February 27, 2009, 04:26:25 PM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on January 27, 2009, 05:51:52 PM

Anyone have any thoughts on Rescue Me?

I'm on the third episode of season one and so far it's a very very well done show.
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« Reply #94 on: February 27, 2009, 04:36:48 PM »

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Quote from: SensuousLettuce on January 27, 2009, 05:51:52 PM

Anyone have any thoughts on Rescue Me?

I'm on the third episode of season one and so far it's a very very well done show.

the new season starts in April.  22 episodes of Rescue Me goodness  thumbsup  of course it's been so long since the last season I've forgotten how things were when it ended so I may need to Netflix it as a refresher course.
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« Reply #95 on: February 27, 2009, 05:05:01 PM »

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Quote from: Kevin Grey on January 22, 2009, 05:13:08 PM

Another one:

Generation Kill- Chronicles a group of marines during the initial part of the Iraqi invasion in 2003.  One of the best and most honest portrayals of the lower levels of the military I've ever seen.  I generally don't care for most depictions of the military in the media- it's often too sanitized and jingoistic, reflecting the ideals and stereotypes that the military wants you to believe instead of the reality of how most soldiers act.  While my service was vastly different than the marines featured here, all of these characters and their conversations rung absolutely true and authentic.  While the military would probably prefer you didn't see this side of soldiers, I think it makes them far easier to empathize with and understand.  

Perhaps not at the same level of Band of Brothers, it isn't far off IMO.  Like BoB, it's an HBO miniseries instead of an ongoing series so it's complete.  It's also by the same guys that created The Wire.  

The first disk for this series finally arrived this week and I'm through 1.5 episodes and echo KG's sentiments. Just like the Wire, this show just rings true.  It's most impressive and unflinching.

Read the book. Loved it. Saw the series, loved it. Bought the entire set when it was on sale at Best Buy. Still watch it from time to time, especially episode 1. Each time I watch I am able to 'grok' more and more of the radio chatter.
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« Reply #96 on: February 27, 2009, 05:10:34 PM »

Quote from: raydude on February 27, 2009, 05:05:01 PM

Read the book. Loved it. Saw the series, loved it.

I saw the series first then read the book. They are perfect copies of one another and a testament to Wright's dedication to getting things right.
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« Reply #97 on: February 27, 2009, 08:30:35 PM »

No mention of Corner Gas? It's one of Canada's best and I can safely say it's better than most American sitcoms on TV these days. No laugh track to remind you that you have to laugh.

Here's an episode example from one of the best episodes: World's Biggest Dirty Cracked Hoe
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« Reply #98 on: March 16, 2009, 01:48:06 AM »

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Anyone have any thoughts on Rescue Me?

I'm on the third episode of season one and so far it's a very very well done show.

And now I'm on the third disk and am hitting eject. It has slowly descended into focusing almost solely on the sex lives of the firefighters instead of what's interesting about them: firefighters dealing with the life of being one, the loss of comrades and the whole camaraderie.  A few of the scenarios were funny in isolation, but now it seems to be the main point of the show.


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« Reply #99 on: March 16, 2009, 01:52:09 AM »

Poor ATB, missing out on one of the best shows on TV because of sex.
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« Reply #100 on: March 16, 2009, 04:48:42 PM »

So this gets bumped, I'd like to add that hitting eject on Rescue Me because you think it's all about sex is naive and missing the point of the show entirely.  It's about vastly more than that.  You know, that whole stuff you want about firefighters dealing with the life of being one, the loss of comrades, and the whole camaraderie?  It's ALL THERE.  Why do you think Tommy Gavin keeps seeing his cousin's ghost?  Why do you think there are long segments of the firefighters sitting around the kitchen table and shooting the shit?  Why do you think 9-11 is brought up over and over again (there's an epic rant about this at the end of season 2, and season 5 is supposed to have a huge subplot about it)?  There's more to it than that, too.

However, I've noticed that any time sex is brought to the fore (I remember you hitting eject on The Office just a couple of episodes in because of sex), you get offended and run away.  How can you possibly handle all the profanity and violence in the things you watch and the video games you play, yet when human characters do human things, like have sex, you get so turned off?
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« Reply #101 on: March 16, 2009, 05:29:10 PM »

I'm way too lazy to skim through this looking for precedent, so I humbly offer up the genius of The Venture Bros. as my pick of a "must have" dvd tv set.  Season 3 is arriving in stores on March 24th, by the way.
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« Reply #102 on: March 16, 2009, 06:52:39 PM »

According to my find feature the term "Friday Night Lights" hasn't been used so I'm going to add that show to the discussion.  I think this is a fantastic show even if the high school kids are like 26 years old.
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« Reply #103 on: March 16, 2009, 09:51:19 PM »

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However, I've noticed that any time sex is brought to the fore (I remember you hitting eject on The Office just a couple of episodes in because of sex), you get offended and run away.  How can you possibly handle all the profanity and violence in the things you watch and the video games you play, yet when human characters do human things, like have sex, you get so turned off?

Because I have struggled with porn addiction my whole life and seeing scantily clad ladies doing or suggesting that they're doing things of such a provocative nature really gets my wheels turning on things I don't need to be thinking about.
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