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Sam is the Man
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« on: October 20, 2004, 05:00:55 PM »

Have any of you seen it? My wife and I did, and my wife was pissed at me for taking her to it...she thought it would have a happy ending.

It put both of us in a bad mood for the rest of the day. I'd describe it as effective, but unpleasant. Not an enjoyable experience. It didn't need to be set in an ocean, since all it really is is 90min of watching people go through psychological torture. It would have had the same effect had it been set in, say, a collapsed mine.

I wouldn't recommend it. It's not like horror movies or suspense movies where there is an overall goal or purpose...it's like 'Passion of the Christ' but if the Christ were just some random dude getting beat up.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2004, 05:20:18 PM »

We had a discussion about this film at GG when it came out. The movie looks to be to much of a downer for my taste. The one interesting thing about the movie is that it's based on an actual incident. However, the real story is a little more grey in that many are saying it may have been  a murder suicide instead of simply tow people left at sea.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2004, 05:37:35 PM »

I went and watched it.  I'm not going to get into a big review post since I have to leave in 10 minutes, but I will say I was pissed when I went.


I was pissed because theaters don't refund your money.  It got great reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.  I went to watch it, hoping for an amazing movie.  And it was completely unenjoyable.  


I heard a few people grumble/giggle when the ending came.  I was able to keep it to myself.  And I actually saw people outside of the theater warning people in line not to watch it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2004, 05:40:57 PM »

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It put both of us in a bad mood for the rest of the day. I'd describe it as effective, but unpleasant. Not an enjoyable experience. It didn't need to be set in an ocean, since all it really is is 90min of watching people go through psychological torture. It would have had the same effect had it been set in, say, a collapsed mine.

I wouldn't recommend it. It's not like horror movies or suspense movies where there is an overall goal or purpose...it's like 'Passion of the Christ' but if the Christ were just some random dude getting beat up.


Well, the filmmaker wasn't aiming to create an enjoyable experience... they wanted to create a suspenseful, sobering depiction of a couple's fate at sea.

Also, why do you feel all movies should have a happy ending? Do all situations in life end in a happy ending? No.. Then why should all movies?

I think the movie did justice to the real-life events that inspired by going with the ending it had. It's a scary film--It's a film about how easy it is to lose it all, including your life, by an unfortuitous turn of events. Not all horror films are about a monster or a killer predating on unsuspecting people. Sometimes nature decides to play a nasty trick on you.  Cool
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2004, 06:09:35 PM »

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Well, the filmmaker wasn't aiming to create an enjoyable experience... they wanted to create a suspenseful, sobering depiction of a couple's fate at sea.

Also, why do you feel all movies should have a happy ending? Do all situations in life end in a happy ending? No.. Then why should all movies?


Whoa, I'm really not sure where I even came close to implying that 'all movies should have a happy ending'. Where you got that from is beyond me.

I said my wife was pissed, because she likes happy endings, and this movie was particularly disturbing. But she doesn't think all movies should have them.  We both loved Blair Witch, but that didn't have a happy ending...we just felt it told a more intriguing scary tale.

Anyway, my post was merely out of curiosity about how others felt. My opinion was that the movie was effective but not enjoyable. In fact, I agree with you that the filmmaker wasn't aiming to create an enjoyable experience, and they succeeded...hence, I found the film unenjoyable! Imagine that.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2004, 06:13:32 PM »

Not that I'll ever watch it, but thanks for the spoiler warning...  :roll:

Edit: Thanks! smile

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2004, 06:15:37 PM »

oops :shock: ..my bad. fixed.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2004, 06:50:12 PM »

Sort've the same way I feel about Requiem For A Dream. Great reviews for a movie that makes you feel wretched throughout.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2004, 09:53:30 PM »

I was very impressed with it and 'enjoyed' it that way.  For me it was more a meditation on man's place in the scheme of things, and how we kid ourselves about our own importance.

I mean, here's a couple of good looking, healthy, successful Americans, surely as favored as humans get- and it means absolutely nothing when you're drifting around in the ocean.

I don't think it would be the same story in a collapsed mine or something like that. Then, it would be a matter if they could dig themselves out or not, a simple survival story in other words. There's something about the ocean that parallels outer space in isolation. If you're in the desert, a mine, on land in any way- you are in your element on some level, on Earth. If you are in the ocean, you are very close to as vulnerable as you'd be if you were on the Moon.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2004, 09:59:30 PM »

Good points...I see what you mean when you look at it as a statement about man's place in the world/universe.

I guess I just meant that the overall emotional purpose of the movie seemed to me to be based on human suffering in a hopeless situation, so I guess my mine idea would only work if there was simply nothing the trapped miners could do to escape...the psychological suffering being the predominant feeling.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2004, 10:11:04 PM »

For me, the emotional resonance comes from my empathy with that couple. They are 'normal' people, doing a very common, seemingly fun activity- a group dive. It is something I can see myself doing, that draws me in.  So when I see what is happening to them, especially that last night(AHHH!),  it is happening to me and there is all the horror I need from that movie right there. I'm not just watching it, I'm experiencing it.

Blair Witch, for example, is weakened by having the characters behave in stupid ways when they get lost.  I don't know about you but I didn't relate to them at all after that, I was just watching them.
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