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« Reply #160 on: November 28, 2016, 08:00:38 PM »

Too many locations for my taste, can't get a decent grip on any story

1) The Saviors compound
2) Alexandria
3) Hilltop
4) The Kingdom
5) Oceanside
6) Carol out in her own house
7) Probably missing some place somewhere....

I didn't mind this episode but the ending where Rosita is asking Tara about where to find guns seemed a bit clumsy, why would she think Tara knows where a bunch of guns are?  Why is a female asking this when we know a whole group (coven?  hehe sorry) of women have a stockpile of them?  If Tara knew where guns where why would Rosita think she was hiding that information? 
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« Reply #161 on: November 28, 2016, 08:43:48 PM »

Quote from: Zinfan on November 28, 2016, 08:00:38 PM

Too many locations for my taste, can't get a decent grip on any story

1) The Saviors compound
2) Alexandria
3) Hilltop
4) The Kingdom
5) Oceanside
6) Carol out in her own house
7) Probably missing some place somewhere....

I didn't mind this episode but the ending where Rosita is asking Tara about where to find guns seemed a bit clumsy, why would she think Tara knows where a bunch of guns are?  Why is a female asking this when we know a whole group (coven?  hehe sorry) of women have a stockpile of them?  If Tara knew where guns where why would Rosita think she was hiding that information? 

That had more to do with Rosita's desperation for ammunition (which was referenced previously).
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« Reply #162 on: November 28, 2016, 11:22:55 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on November 28, 2016, 08:43:48 PM

Quote from: Zinfan on November 28, 2016, 08:00:38 PM

Too many locations for my taste, can't get a decent grip on any story

1) The Saviors compound
2) Alexandria
3) Hilltop
4) The Kingdom
5) Oceanside
6) Carol out in her own house
7) Probably missing some place somewhere....

I didn't mind this episode but the ending where Rosita is asking Tara about where to find guns seemed a bit clumsy, why would she think Tara knows where a bunch of guns are?  Why is a female asking this when we know a whole group (coven?  hehe sorry) of women have a stockpile of them?  If Tara knew where guns where why would Rosita think she was hiding that information? 

That had more to do with Rosita's desperation for ammunition (which was referenced previously).

I think it had more to do with whether Tara keeps her promise about not telling them about her discovery.  Don't know why it matters now that they tried to kill her.
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« Reply #163 on: November 29, 2016, 05:46:54 AM »

Quote from: naednek on November 28, 2016, 11:22:55 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on November 28, 2016, 08:43:48 PM

Quote from: Zinfan on November 28, 2016, 08:00:38 PM

Too many locations for my taste, can't get a decent grip on any story

1) The Saviors compound
2) Alexandria
3) Hilltop
4) The Kingdom
5) Oceanside
6) Carol out in her own house
7) Probably missing some place somewhere....

I didn't mind this episode but the ending where Rosita is asking Tara about where to find guns seemed a bit clumsy, why would she think Tara knows where a bunch of guns are?  Why is a female asking this when we know a whole group (coven?  hehe sorry) of women have a stockpile of them?  If Tara knew where guns where why would Rosita think she was hiding that information? 

That had more to do with Rosita's desperation for ammunition (which was referenced previously).

I think it had more to do with whether Tara keeps her promise about not telling them about her discovery.  Don't know why it matters now that they tried to kill her.

That was Tara's end of it, but I was explaining why Rosita was so intense about asking for the weapon info.  It wasn't so much that she assumed Tara had found it as she was just desperate for a lead of any kind.

And the reason Tara keeping the secret still matters is at the core of the show: Holding onto humanity in the face of increasing inhumanity.  Tara tried to avoid it, but in the end she made a promise (to the one who didn't try to kill her, by the way, and, in fact, saved her life at least three times).  Instead of discarding all of that when faced with a need to survive (which has been proven again and again [most recently at Oceanside itself] to be a slippery slope), she is clinging to what makes a society more than just humans killing each other.  We'll see how that decision plays out, but it's pretty damned important, so I suspect the gang will find their way there themselves (or vice versa), and Tara will be able to prove she kept her promise.  At the least, they'll gain a new member, but they may even find themselves with a small army and an armory.
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« Reply #164 on: November 29, 2016, 05:56:50 PM »

I think it was said or implied that the whole reason Heath and Tara were out scouting was primarily for weapons, so Rosita's desperation for a lead was fairly justified (though it did seem a bit too specific when she phrased it).  Food of course too, but I thought one of them was specifically talking about ammo.  Then again, from their perspective they should have just got a bunch of crap from the Saviours, plus Eugene has his factory, so it doesn't make that much sense.

Anyway, this period again reminds me a lot of what happened with Lost in Season 3 and 4 (or thereabout).  The writers got so enamored with back stories on new characters and spent weeks apart from the core cast, and ended up re-treading the same period in time (with different cast members) over and over.  Diehard fans might appreciate this type of storytelling and even eat this kind of thing up, but general fans tend to get impatient and annoyed.  Personally I could go either way.  As someone who has watched the entire Lost series multiple times, I do feel the show was "deeper" and more involving overall because of the additional content, but plays a whole lot better when you binge watch the whole thing over a short period of time.  I suspect TWD will feel similar.  The key difference though is Lost was always planned with a story end in mind, whereas the TWD comic/story has no end in sight thus far.

I didn't realize the ratings had dropped so much, maybe the show has really reached its peak, and as the article mentioned people were likely pissed at the double death, even more so when they realized it was just the beginning of a more arduous period of waiting for them to get their mojo back.  I still give them kudos for being willing to take chances on (possibly) one-shot character/story episodes that may or may not affect the "main" plot.
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« Reply #165 on: November 29, 2016, 11:37:22 PM »

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"Two episodes left" sucks! 

"...in 2016." I assume it's going to miss a couple of weeks because of holiday specials and sportsball games and suchlike.

I thought the Tara episode was OK, even though I'd forgotten about Tara's existence and couldn't remember her name. It's not like the cast needs to bring in more minor characters...maybe they intend to promote her to major character? Otherwise I just don't get the impetus for doing that episode, unless maybe the coven is going to crop up again.
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« Reply #166 on: November 30, 2016, 06:21:21 AM »

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Quote from: rittchard on November 28, 2016, 06:25:44 PM

"Two episodes left" sucks!  

"...in 2016." I assume it's going to miss a couple of weeks because of holiday specials and sportsball games and suchlike.


More than a couple of weeks.  It'll be back in February. I remember that being a really long wait last year.

The wait alone sucks, but the fact that there are only two episodes left was even more startling than normal because of how little progress there has been overall.  It really feels like we've just had a bunch of story set-up eps.
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« Reply #167 on: December 06, 2016, 11:52:14 PM »

Don't think that last episode did much to get people back on board, but I enjoyed seeing a Carl-centric episode.  Of course this entire side plot I find a bit ludicrous, from Carl essentially doing a suicide mission (doesn't he give a crap about his dad or sister anymore?) to Negan NOT killing him.  But... from what I recall, the episode really reflected how the entire event played out in the comics.  The big difference was Carl was much smaller/younger in the comics, so it was a little more believable that his judgment would be lacking, and that Negan would find him more amusing.  Anyway it made for a nice showcase for Carl and a little more insight into the Savior's world. 
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« Reply #168 on: December 07, 2016, 07:27:35 AM »

I guess so but why was Jesus in the van?  And why was Daryl the only one who seemed to notice him on top of the truck before it left the compound?  Still need some sort of advancement on the storyline, all I'm getting is various setups that are taking way too long to resolve IMO.
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« Reply #169 on: December 07, 2016, 02:37:32 PM »

And part of the problem is that it's technically not taking a long time in their world.  It really has only been a week or two, but we've had to go over the same chronological ground again and again because everyone is so spread out!
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« Reply #170 on: December 07, 2016, 09:02:26 PM »

Quote from: Zinfan on December 07, 2016, 07:27:35 AM

I guess so but why was Jesus in the van?  And why was Daryl the only one who seemed to notice him on top of the truck before it left the compound?  Still need some sort of advancement on the storyline, all I'm getting is various setups that are taking way too long to resolve IMO.

I thought someone (Maggie?) asked Jesus to see if he could find the Savior's hideout, it was at the end of the Maggie/Hilltop episode.  No one else noticed him because he's a freaking NINJA!

I need to go back and reread the comics, but I thought I recall this portion "A Larger World" (forgot the exact title) taking place over a longer period of time.  The TV show seems to be building it up in a much shorter time frame, just spread out across multiple locations.  I think the ultimate point will be that they all need to align together to beat the bad guys rather than each going at it alone.  Nothing earth shattering lol, but trying to coordinate will be the toughest part.
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« Reply #171 on: December 12, 2016, 08:29:36 PM »

Well, that worked much better than a lot of the stuff this season.  Carol popped up and I almost had a "Who the hell is that?" moment.  Really, they should have been intercutting throughout the various characters in their locations in each episode instead of focusing on one, though I understand why they did it the way they did.  It was important to create that sense of separation, because when (most) of the gang finally gets together at the end of the episode, that was pretty great.

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I really loved the conversation between the priest and hatless hottie, too.  Best thing either of them has done in the series.  That moment of "It shouldn't have been you" really justified a lot of what she'd been doing and explained her jumping the gun with the, er, gun later in the episode.

It may be because the actor does nothing for me, and I can never remember that he was the mayor's son once upon a time, but I have no recollection of him and Rosita being a thing.  Was that sprung on us last night?  If so, it felt a little contrived for the events that followed.  If not, it still felt a little contrived, but I can let it go a little easier.  I did like his practicing for what seemed like a date, but turned out to be Negan. 

I thought Negan solidified that he's not just being crazy and out of control for crazy's sake in this episode.  I've seen some complaints online that he's just crazy or just a thug, but I don't think that's true at all, and this episode showed that he's both smart and calculating, choosing his moments to go specifically over the line.  He saw right through boring Mayor's son guy.  He made examples where he needed to do so.  I was surprised at how much the arbitrary death hit me.  Nicely done.

What the hell was Daryl staring at in that one room?  It looked like a bunch of military figurines, but I couldn't tell if those were supposed to have some sort of remembered significance or if it was foreshadowing. 

At one point, I thought Daryl was going to cut his hair to disguise himself.  At least a trim.  No such luck.

Daryl's beating of that one guy was a nice moment of venting for him.  It seemed to come out of nowhere, but it really didn't.

The rando who came to Morgan and Carol seemed odd to me.  I imagine he was Ezekiel's right-hand-man in that earlier episode, but it was soooo long ago, that he just felt generic to me.  And why the hell did he push the sign that was hiding his hidden caravan down?  Apart from letting the audience see it, I mean.

Anyway, overall, this was a return to form for the show for me, with the promise of good stuff when it comes back in February.
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« Reply #172 on: December 12, 2016, 11:52:34 PM »

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Random thoughts:

I really loved the conversation between the priest and hatless hottie, too.  Best thing either of them has done in the series.  That moment of "It shouldn't have been you" really justified a lot of what she'd been doing and explained her jumping the gun with the, er, gun later in the episode.

It may be because the actor does nothing for me, and I can never remember that he was the mayor's son once upon a time, but I have no recollection of him and Rosita being a thing.  Was that sprung on us last night?  If so, it felt a little contrived for the events that followed.  If not, it still felt a little contrived, but I can let it go a little easier.  I did like his practicing for what seemed like a date, but turned out to be Negan.  

I thought Negan solidified that he's not just being crazy and out of control for crazy's sake in this episode.  I've seen some complaints online that he's just crazy or just a thug, but I don't think that's true at all, and this episode showed that he's both smart and calculating, choosing his moments to go specifically over the line.  He saw right through boring Mayor's son guy.  He made examples where he needed to do so.  I was surprised at how much the arbitrary death hit me.  Nicely done.

What the hell was Daryl staring at in that one room?  It looked like a bunch of military figurines, but I couldn't tell if those were supposed to have some sort of remembered significance or if it was foreshadowing.  

At one point, I thought Daryl was going to cut his hair to disguise himself.  At least a trim.  No such luck.

Daryl's beating of that one guy was a nice moment of venting for him.  It seemed to come out of nowhere, but it really didn't.

The rando who came to Morgan and Carol seemed odd to me.  I imagine he was Ezekiel's right-hand-man in that earlier episode, but it was soooo long ago, that he just felt generic to me.  And why the hell did he push the sign that was hiding his hidden caravan down?  Apart from letting the audience see it, I mean.

Anyway, overall, this was a return to form for the show for me, with the promise of good stuff when it comes back in February.

Much agreement on pretty much everything here.  I think my biggest problem with the way they handled this half-season, and probably my only complaint with the writers in general, is with their handling of time passage.  Sometimes it isn't clear that time has passed, or time hasn't passed, and sometimes when it makes more sense that time has passed, you find out really no time has passed.  I re-skimmed some of the comics last night, and while it wasn't the way I remembered it, there was a much more logical flow/progression for Rick's change of heart.  In the TV show it felt like hardly any time had passed, and he just kind of flipped to the other side pretty quick, which kind of lessens the impact of breaking him in the season premiere.  I realize no one wanted to see a bunch of episodes of "broken Rick" but it just seems like this could have been handled better.

Agree on the Rosita/Gabriel scene, finally a nice moment for him.

Rosita and Spencer did hook up a while back, it might have been right after she got dumped for a quick hookup.  I don't remember the details but I do remember her doing it.

Negan is definitely an interesting character, I suspect you'll get to learn a lot more about him as things progress.  You can tell Kirkman just loves him (both the character and the actor).

I also was wondering what Daryl was staring at, all I could guess was it was something they stole from Alexandria so it pissed him off even more?  I also thought he would cut his hair lol, would have been much easier to fit in with the others.  Slaughtering Fat Joe was a pretty big surprise moment, but I agree it totally made sense.  At least we got to see him get a hug in the after show.

The "rando" was Richard, I think he was the guy that got into the altercation with the Saviors in the other episode?  If so he'd be clearly motivated to fight sooner rather than later.  

edit: yeah he was the guy, see  http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Richard_(TV_Series)



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« Reply #173 on: December 13, 2016, 01:10:41 AM »

Thanks for that link.  I had totally forgotten about the pigs and that incident with the Saviors.

In fact, it has been so long since seeing The Kingdom, that when Richard the rando described the encounter with the Saviors, I thought that had happened before Morgan and Carol arrived and we were just hearing about it.

My memory of the Kingdom episode was Morgan wheels Carol in to talk to Ezekiel.  He has a fucking tiger.  Carol acts impressed.  Carol makes it clear she was acting and moves to a house.  Ezekiel shows up and makes it clear he's been acting, too.  Roll credits.
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« Reply #174 on: February 13, 2017, 07:19:37 PM »

.....and we're back!!!!

I was a little underwhelmed with this mid-season premiere.  Obviously I'm happy to see all the characters more or less together again and not being so pathetic.  And definitely excited to see where things go now, but it almost feels like they realized the ratings were slipping and people were tuning out and are trying to hard to reverse it.  Not that this wasn't likely filmed a while ago so they'd know to react this way, but certainly the way they are promoting the show you can see the clear intent they want fans to think our good guys are finally gonna get back to kicking ass.  But then they still didn't kick much ass (besides zombies)...

Obviously the highlight was the splicing scene, I won't elaborate much more than to say that was a great effect and worth the wait, even though the whole setup kind of confused me.  

You can see the problem they are having with these ensemble type of episodes is that certain characters get stuck in the background and don't have a lot to do (like Carl and notcop), while others have unnecessary drama added that doesn't make a lot of sense (Ezekiel, Carol and Morgan, get with the frickin program lol.  And Eric, you better keep your mouth shut if you want to stay in the show much longer, cuz fans are gonna demand the much hotter gay pairing of Aaron/Jesus, aka Asus - yeah I just made that up).  

Anyway, I'm ready for the teasing to stop and the war to begin.  Bring it on!
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« Reply #175 on: February 13, 2017, 07:33:04 PM »

I was confused by the actions of Father Gabriel because it felt completely random. Also, you'd think with the amount of noise he was making in the middle of the night, SOMEONE would have heard him bumbling around.

But I am glad that Rick snapped out of his self-loathing daze and is ready to go to war.
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« Reply #176 on: February 13, 2017, 08:21:45 PM »

Well, despite hat hottie's stellar performance at the end delivering lines the equivalent of, "Gosh, I sure don't know what's going on with Gabriel at all, no, sir, uh uh, not me, he must be stealing, it's the only possible explanation [non-challant whistle]," I think she may be involved in whatever it is Gabriel's doing.  His spastic can collecting did seem a little noisy, though.  Also, there was someone who popped up in the car behind him, and I guess given the shot of the hooded person spying on him at the end of the last episode, and a similarly hooded person showing up with the lady poseurs at the end, that Gabriel is with that group now, likely unwillingly.

I also found the road setup confusing.  The clotheslining was awesome, but I never had a clear impression of where anyone was.  The zombies seemed to be coming from one direction, but then were between them and the van, which seemed to be the other direction.  The shots weren't set up correctly to keep clear what was coming from where.  In the end, it didn't matter, though.

I've been a Morgan defender for a while, but good lord, that was some slap-worthy hem-hawing with Ezekiel.  WTF, Morgan?  Get with the program, indeed.

While I am excited about the Rebellion taking shape, I'm not necessarily looking forward to 5 episodes of waiting for GTA Trevor to stroll violently into the Kingdom and get killed before they finally join.  Not to mention the Gun Amazons and/or whoever this new group is (unless they were also the Gun Amazons, but I thought I saw some men in that tribe).

Still, this is better than the laborious backtracking over time that the last chunk of eps brought us.
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« Reply #177 on: February 13, 2017, 10:11:43 PM »

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I was confused by the actions of Father Gabriel because it felt completely random. Also, you'd think with the amount of noise he was making in the middle of the night, SOMEONE would have heard him bumbling around.

yeah, plus how did he so easily steal a car??

But anyway as Bullwinkle said I think the presumption is that the hooded guy/gal from previous episodes (probably owner of the boat) contacted Gabriel and either made a deal with him or wanted his stuff back or both.  So again presumably, Rick is smiling when he sees Gabriel with this new group, who he presumes will join up with them in the uprising.

There were definitely men with the group so it's not the Gun Amazons (love that name btw), unless they've already teamed up with someone else.
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« Reply #178 on: February 13, 2017, 10:19:48 PM »

Maybe he's smiling because of someone specific he saw, but I got the impression that Rick was just smiling because he knew he'd found his army, cocky as that may be.
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« Reply #179 on: February 14, 2017, 12:20:20 AM »

I am up to date on the comics and don't remember this new group. Did I forget something or are they new for the show?
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« Reply #180 on: February 14, 2017, 06:31:04 AM »

I seem to remember just reading that they are a new creation.
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« Reply #181 on: February 20, 2017, 04:53:45 AM »

Morgan got told to read the room and get with the program twice tonight, and he's still dragging his heels.  I think his moral compass was actually right before this and now I think he's missing the forest for the trees.  However, I remember him hinting at a point last week which is similar to what we've said before, that the easiest solution may be to throw a proverbial bucket of water on Neegan.  When he melts (which may be possible if the proverbial bucket is filled with the literal hot furnace fuel), his followers may just throw up their hands.  The smallest loss of life would be just Neegan's.  Maybe.  But there are some nasty pieces of work under him who have to be dealt with, too.

Now as for the Poseurs, that group Rick and company went on a combat-trial fetch quest for, I don't know who thought hiring a Ren Faire team to play a Mad Max gang was a good idea, but they should be thrown into the pit with the fabricated zombie hedgehog.  That lead woman (I wanna say T'Pol?  Is that right?) was all about showing you how casual she was about being in charge.  A lackadaisical hand toss here, a look away but not to anywhere in particular there.  Plus what the f with that dialogue?!  "Show Rick the Upupup"?  And the lack of verbs?  It's like they willfully chose to make communication among themselves harder.  It's not as if anyone else in the walker apocalypse has seen dialogue regress.  Except maybe Daryl.  But he wasn't so eloquent beforehand.

And speaking of Daryl.  So, he just heads out without so much as a head-press fight?  What was the point?  Of course, it was so that he could reunite with Carol, but now his stay in the Kingdom really just seems like a plot convenience.

But his scene with Carol was good.  It was nice to see soulful-eyed teary Carol again instead of hollow Carol.  And I was genuinely surprised to see Daryl lie to Carol.  Good stuff.

In fact, despite my significant gripes above, I thought this was a decent episode.  I wish there weren't so many ugh moments, though.  I'm not looking forward to seeing the Poseurs again, but it looks like next week might be a Eugene/Neegan focused romp, so maybe we'll get a week off.
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« Reply #182 on: February 20, 2017, 07:37:30 PM »

After talking about Rick's combat-trial fetch quest last night, I saw this article (Warning: Inappropriate use of "Literally" ahead):

Last Night's 'The Walking Dead' Was Literally A 'Fallout 4' Quest

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The Walking Dead threw a wrench in the works last night when they introduced an entirely new group to the equation, one not found in the comics, that Rick attempts to recruit as allies in the upcoming fight against Negan, joining Alexandria, the Hilltop and eventually the Kingdom and the Amazons, most likely.

It was a bit of an odd episode without all that much action, but there was something about this plotline that I found awfully familiar. As Rick’s adventure was unfolding, I was very much seeing the entire situation as a quest from Fallout 4.

The Fallout series and The Walking Dead already have obvious parallels between existing in the post-apocalypse and with zombie-like ghouls roaming the land, but this episode in particular made that comparison more stark than usual.

I want to try to frame this as a literal quest from Fallout 4 as best I can (with perhaps slightly better dialogue options), so this will be uh, an experiment in formatting, shall we say. This will only really make any amount of sense if you’ve watched the episode, so go and do that first. And I guess the set-up was in last week’s episode. Anyway, here we go.

<<Rick enters his settlement as his NPC allies move about. He is approached by Aaron>>

AARON: Rick, something’s wrong. Father Gabriel is missing. He was on guard duty, but it seems like he took off with a car and some food.

RICK:

X) That rat bastard!

Y) He wouldn’t do that…

A) Is anyone else missing?

B) We need to investigate

<<QUEST STARTED: Search for clues about Gabriel’s location>>

<<Rick searches the area, and discovers a notebook. He examines the notebook to find BOAT scrawled on it>>

RICK: I know where he went

<<NEW OBJECTIVE: Look for Gabriel near the old boat. A new marker has been added to your minimap>>

<<Rick and his followers track back to the boat area. When they arrive, they’re met by a strange new group wearing all-black, cult-like robes. They’re led to what appears to be a trash fortress. They speak strangely>>

TRASH WOMAN: You speak. Words now. Take things, we have. Your lives, ours, taken, as well.



RICK:

X) What the hell are you even saying?

Y) Give us back Gabriel or I’ll gut you (ATTACK)

A) Who are you people?

B) Let’s talk about how we can help each other (CHARISMA: 5)

TRASH WOMAN: Worthy you are not. Prove thyself in gauntlet trial of spikes and madness

RICK: Excuse me?

<<Rick is pushed into a closed off area, separated from his party members. He tries a nearby door>>

<<It won’t budge>>

RICK: What is—

<<NEW OBJECTIVE: Kill KING SPIKE ZOMBIE>>

<<Rick fights valiantly unarmed. Loses 30% HP and cripples his arm and leg, but uses environmental hazards to his advantage and is victorious>>

<<OBJECTIVE COMPLETE: Report back to Trash Woman>>

TRASH WOMAN: Not bad, you are. Perhaps we take lives, not just things. For price, that is right.



RICK:

X) You just tried to murder me you nutjob! (ATTACK)

Y) Seriously, what the hell are you saying?

A) Join us or die like your spiked friend

B) If you help us kill the Saviors, we’ll split the spoils of war (INTELLIGENCE: Cool

<<Michonne disliked that>>

<<Aaron liked that>>

<<Rosita hates you>>

TRASH WOMAN: Perhaps this is acceptable, but task you must complete for our hand in friendship. Guns are the tool required. Only then, our strength is yours

RICK: Fine. (mutters) Nutjob

<<QUEST COMPLETE. 4,000 XP. ONE NEW SKILL POINT TO SPEND>>

<<NEW QUEST STARTED: Bring the Trash People a weapon cache>>

….

That’s the best I got.

If I were Rick I’d sink a few more points into Luck. He’s going to need it going up against a max STRENGTH, ENDURANCE, CHARISMA Negan.
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« Reply #183 on: February 21, 2017, 06:52:30 PM »

OMG Bullwinkle, I almost spit out my tea when you called her T'Pol!  The campiness was pretty hilarious, but then again in a comic-book universe where they have Ezekiel and his magic tiger I guess anything is fair game.

Overall I'm not too thrilled with the addition of the Mad Max trash people, though I guess it's nice that the TV show wants to take some risks to branch out with their own creations.  It feels like they're already spread too thin to cover the main+support cast, and it can be really difficult to write a huge ensemble show (see Lost).  Hopefully once the War ends they will have cleaned up a lot of the extraneous characters and groups but we'll see.

I'm also getting annoyed at the "tease" plotlines, like Morgan and Carol not being willing to fight.  I mean seriously are we to believe they aren't going to be involved in the war at all?  And then the whole thing with the "we need guns" and stupid Notcop holding out on the info.  It's so freaking annoying lol.  "I wonder where oh where could we possible find a ton of guns???"  ARGH!!!! 

All that said, it's still my favorite show on TV.  I do think my expectations need to be curbed going forward, though, as it feels like this season has not been as good as it could/should have for whatever reason.  It's interesting that sometimes you don't realize how much an ensemble show can hurt when it loses a key cast member, and I think in this instance maybe the loss of Glenn has had a bigger affect than the writers/producers consciously realize.  I remember when Glee lost Finn, there was just nothing they did that could recover from it, it was like the soul of the show was missing.  Of course that was an unplanned loss and was more devastating because of the tragic nature of the actor dying, but again it's just an interesting dynamic to see as a fan of the show.
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« Reply #184 on: February 22, 2017, 09:18:14 PM »

personally speaking I'm also not a fan of the trash people - more specifically in how they speak. Did they all forget how to talk like normal people all of a sudden - or did they just evolve from a cave dwelling sect that no one knew about in Georgia?
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« Reply #185 on: February 23, 2017, 03:38:21 PM »

Quote from: Roman on February 22, 2017, 09:18:14 PM

personally speaking I'm also not a fan of the trash people - more specifically in how they speak. Did they all forget how to talk like normal people all of a sudden - or did they just evolve from a cave dwelling sect that no one knew about in Georgia?
I am wondering if it may be an act to get people to think they are stupid.
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