http://gamingtrend.com
September 28, 2016, 05:20:27 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: [Movie] James Bond: SPECTRE  (Read 1812 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Caine
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 12064


My cocaine


View Profile WWW
« on: December 04, 2014, 03:21:04 PM »

Out late 2015, directed by James Mendez

In case you have forgotten, that stands for
SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion.  


« Last Edit: November 05, 2015, 07:04:38 PM by Caine » Logged

farley2k
Moderator
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 4645



View Profile
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2014, 03:28:30 PM »

My contrived acronym ever. 

Two letters from the first wrod, none from the third or seventh... 
Logged

Caine
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 12064


My cocaine


View Profile WWW
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2014, 03:40:53 PM »

Quote from: farley2k on December 04, 2014, 03:28:30 PM

My contrived acronym ever. 

Two letters from the first wrod, none from the third or seventh... 

yes, but nobody would be afraid of Sefcitrae
Logged

leo8877
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 13275



View Profile
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2014, 04:04:11 PM »

Quote from: Caine on December 04, 2014, 03:40:53 PM

Quote from: farley2k on December 04, 2014, 03:28:30 PM

My contrived acronym ever.  

Two letters from the first wrod, none from the third or seventh...  

yes, but nobody would be afraid of Sefcitrae

 nod

Late 2015 is shaping up to be a nice time for films!
« Last Edit: December 04, 2014, 04:06:16 PM by leo8877 » Logged
leo8877
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 13275



View Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2014, 05:11:08 PM »

Cristoph Waltz is joining the cast!
Logged
EngineNo9
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 12908


I said good day, sir!


View Profile WWW
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2014, 05:13:04 PM »

Hank Scorpio!  

Logged

Demons run when a good man goes to war.
ravenvii
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 2058



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2014, 08:31:30 PM »

Guess that lame-ass group QUANTUM isn't SPECTRE after all.

Skyfall was the shit. Can't wait to see this!
Logged
pr0ner
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 5438


Go Flames go!


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2014, 02:49:20 PM »

Why is this thread titled Bond #27 when everyone else acknowledges this to be Bond #24?
Logged

XBox Live Gamertag: Pr0ner
Caine
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 12064


My cocaine


View Profile WWW
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2014, 04:41:42 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on December 05, 2014, 02:49:20 PM

Why is this thread titled Bond #27 when everyone else acknowledges this to be Bond #24?
not sure where I got that from...
Logged

TiLT
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 7378


Preaching to the choir


View Profile WWW
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2014, 04:54:06 PM »

Quote from: Caine on December 05, 2014, 04:41:42 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on December 05, 2014, 02:49:20 PM

Why is this thread titled Bond #27 when everyone else acknowledges this to be Bond #24?
not sure where I got that from...

If you count both previous Casino Royale films, as well as Never Say Never Again, this is number 27. Then again, that would be dumb. Tongue
Logged
hepcat
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 9490


I'M the one that knocks! Now...burp me!


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2014, 05:48:11 PM »

Why not use KAOS?  That's an organization that needs to be brought back!
Logged

Warning:  You will see my penis. -Brian

Just remember: once a user figures out gluten noting them they're allowed to make fun of you. - Ceekay speaking in tongues.
Bullwinkle
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 16683


Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat.


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2014, 07:57:47 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on December 05, 2014, 05:48:11 PM

Why not use KAOS?  That's an organization that needs to be brought back!

Waltz could play Dr. Craw.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Not "craw" - CRAW!

Oh, 60s racial insensitivity, we miss you.
Logged

"The cause of death was asphyxiation, or smothering, in layman's terms."

"What does 'layman's terms' mean?"
pr0ner
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 5438


Go Flames go!


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2014, 10:18:58 PM »

Apparently Quantum may be involved in this movie somehow.
Logged

XBox Live Gamertag: Pr0ner
Rumpy
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 1627



View Profile
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2014, 07:03:26 AM »

The way I saw it according to the 3 previous in the way they were building things up, was that Quantum was a sub-division of sorts from within the bigger Spectre. I seem to remember Skyfall pushing it into that direction.
Logged
pr0ner
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 5438


Go Flames go!


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2014, 02:46:06 PM »

Quote from: Rumpy on December 07, 2014, 07:03:26 AM

The way I saw it according to the 3 previous in the way they were building things up, was that Quantum was a sub-division of sorts from within the bigger Spectre. I seem to remember Skyfall pushing it into that direction.

Maybe I need to watch it again, but the feeling I got from Skyfall was that Quantum wasn't involved in any way.
Logged

XBox Live Gamertag: Pr0ner
Rumpy
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 1627



View Profile
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2014, 07:34:53 PM »

The gist is that somewhere along they way, they figure out that there's a shadowy organization calling Quantum's shots, with it being revealed at the end of Skyfall, with Bond effectively going up the chain. That would certainly explain Quantum's involvement in the next movie. Of course, another theory could be that it's a splinter group.

Interesting thing about the Bulgarian subtitles for Quantum of Solace, Quantum was translated as SPECTRE with the title changing to Spectre of Solace.
Logged
pr0ner
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 5438


Go Flames go!


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2014, 08:20:37 PM »

Quote from: Rumpy on December 07, 2014, 07:34:53 PM

The gist is that somewhere along they way, they figure out that there's a shadowy organization calling Quantum's shots, with it being revealed at the end of Skyfall, with Bond effectively going up the chain. That would certainly explain Quantum's involvement in the next movie. Of course, another theory could be that it's a splinter group.

Errr...yeah, I don't remember ANY of that, since a) there's no reveal of Quantum that I know of at all in Skyfall, and b) the Bond Wiki says Quantum doesn't feature in Skyfall at all.
Logged

XBox Live Gamertag: Pr0ner
TiLT
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 7378


Preaching to the choir


View Profile WWW
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2014, 09:17:37 PM »

Yeah, Skyfall is the only Bond-movie with Daniel Craig that doesn't feature Quantum in any way. Quantum of Solace resolved the most immediate parts of that plot, leaving SPECTRE to pick up the pieces.
Logged
Rumpy
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 1627



View Profile
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2014, 07:16:43 PM »

And they didn't need to be featured, as Skyfall had an underlying theme of transition throughout. But I'm not the only one who got that vibe out of it. If you search around online, you see a lot of people asking, "Is Quantum part of SPECTRE/Should Quantum be part of SPECTRE?" The reveal I'm speaking about is when they reveal SPECTRE towards the end, but the feeling one can get is that he's dealt with them in some form or another, ie Quantum. It's never explicitly stated, but one can read between the lines. He's in effect now going up against a more specialized unit.

This from CinemaBlend:
Quote
However, if Christensen's statement is true, it looks like not only will we see Mr. White returning in Spectre, but that SPECTRE just might be behind, born from, or taking over Quantum itself.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Spectre-Bringing-Back-James-Bond-Villain-68531.html

And my best guest regarding Mr White is that he'll be their contact into getting into finding and getting into SPECTRE HQ. If I'm wrong I'll eat a hat.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2014, 07:52:59 PM by Rumpy » Logged
TiLT
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 7378


Preaching to the choir


View Profile WWW
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2014, 08:49:16 PM »

I'm not following you, to be honest. Are you saying that SPECTRE was mentioned, or even alluded to, at the end of Skyfall? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
Logged
hepcat
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 9490


I'M the one that knocks! Now...burp me!


View Profile
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2014, 08:53:24 PM »

Screw SPECTRE, bring back Le Chiffre.  Any movie can only be improved by the presence of the great Mads Mikkelsen.
Logged

Warning:  You will see my penis. -Brian

Just remember: once a user figures out gluten noting them they're allowed to make fun of you. - Ceekay speaking in tongues.
Isgrimnur
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 9280



View Profile
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2014, 09:44:03 PM »

He's too busy eating people's livers. 
Logged

Hadron Smasher on 360; IsgrimnurTTU on PS3
Rumpy
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 1627



View Profile
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2014, 07:24:39 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on December 08, 2014, 08:49:16 PM

I'm not following you, to be honest. Are you saying that SPECTRE was mentioned, or even alluded to, at the end of Skyfall? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.

I'm remembering a line at the end of Skyfall where SPECTRE was mentioned, yes. After all the problems MI6 were having, like the virus, they eventually come to find out that an organization called SPECTRE is behind it all, queue the end. So we know by the end of the movie that SPECTRE will be involved in the next movie. This I implicitly remember. It's why I wasn't so surprised that the next movie would feature SPECTRE. I was more surprised that they chose to name the movie after it, though.

Craig's Bond movies have had a story-arc running through them. In terms of the timeline,  at the end of Quantum of Solace, it wouldn't be too difficult to believe that due to Quantum's failure in killing Bond throughout CR and QoS, that an organization higher up on the chain, displeased with the results thus far,  would be sent to infiltrate the organization that Bond works for;  enter SPECTRE, a more specialized org full of shadow operatives designed to do just that. They would, as you say, be picking up the pieces from a failed operation and hitting them where it hurts. But why would they if they weren't related in some manner? There's a relation there somewhere.

And I know Quantum was created because they hadn't yet had the rights to SPECTRE, but if you look at the whole picture from all Craig's Bond movies so far, it looks perfectly orchestrated to fully take advantage of the situation.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2014, 07:46:09 PM by Rumpy » Logged
TiLT
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 7378


Preaching to the choir


View Profile WWW
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2014, 08:37:27 PM »

No, I don't think SPECTRE was ever mentioned in Skyfall, not least because, as you say, they didn't have the rights to do so.
Logged
Rumpy
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 1627



View Profile
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2014, 07:23:53 PM »

My memory might be failing me then, but they must have known at the time that Skyfall was being produced that they'd have the rights to it for the next movie. Not to mention that it seemed open-ended enough to have the opportunity for it to happen should they have the option. Everything falls into place.   To me, it was pretty clear it's what it was going to be, even if it wasn't explicitly stated. Maybe they never got mentioned by name, but there was a large enough clue somewhere, or else I wouldn't be thinking of it.
Logged
pr0ner
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 5438


Go Flames go!


View Profile
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2014, 02:22:56 PM »

I rewatched the movie yesterday up to the point where Bond gets to the Skyfall estate, and nothing up to that point hints at, or mentions, SPECTRE.
Logged

XBox Live Gamertag: Pr0ner
Rumpy
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 1627



View Profile
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2014, 06:21:12 PM »

Then I will respectfully concede. Thanks for checking, Pr0ner. Guess we'll have to wait and see the direction they take it in.
Logged
leo8877
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 13275



View Profile
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2015, 09:20:49 PM »

http://www.007.com/spectre-teaser-poster/

Logged
Blackjack
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 11412



View Profile
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2015, 06:27:27 PM »

Some really, really harsh reviews for this so far. It usually is a bad sign when 4 people work on a screenplay -- most better movies have one or two at most though it's not always a given.

I don't get the impression the main baddy lived up to the overhype in the trailers, and seems like a lot of folks are finding it a disappointing step down from Skyfall and overall just trying too hard, as many movie sequels do. That won't keep it from making a mountain of money -- it already is breaking box office records in the UK.

I might still catch an IMAX show today.
Logged

Playing
PC
-Helldivers (on Steam)
-Killing Floor 2 (Steam early access)
-Everspace (Steam early access)
rittchard
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 4611


View Profile
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2015, 06:53:54 PM »

Also not a good sign when the lead says he'd rather slit his wrists than make another sequel lol.
Logged
Caine
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 12064


My cocaine


View Profile WWW
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2015, 07:07:59 PM »

I'm still excited to see it, especially given that Craig may pass on the mantle after it's done.  Looks like a good Bond film if not a great film on its own.
Logged

Blackjack
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Online Online

Posts: 11412



View Profile
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2015, 06:06:31 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on November 05, 2015, 06:53:54 PM

Also not a good sign when the lead says he'd rather slit his wrists than make another sequel lol.
I'd take that with a grain of salt, as Craig has also said he was only going to do a 4th film if director Sam Mendes returned, which Mendes did after initially saying he wouldn't.  icon_smile Though sure, I can imagine after 4 films he's antsy. Apparently Craig is tackling Othello on the stage these days, presumably not in a tuxedo.

I saw an AMC IMAX show last night. It's entertaining. For me the high points are the marvelous opening sequence in Mexico City, and the battle between Bond and the henchman played by former MMA and wrestler David Bautista (Guardians of the Galaxy). Although the latter might be seen as jetted in from a Bourne Identity movie at times (claustrophobic camera angles).

My only kvetch is I don't find Cristoph Waltz physically intimidating enough to be a scary James Bond villain. And to me it never feels like he gets to go full-bore, unhinged scenery chewing as in Inglorious Basterds. I feel like if you're gonna pay that guy to be your baddie, you should let him go to the wall with the character, so to speak.

I think MI: Rogue Nation's Rebecca Ferguson has spoiled me on femme fetale type characters. After her, it's kind hard to go back to Bond girls who basically get knocked out by one punch. Though I do think French actress Léa Seydoux makes for a relatively compelling, appealing Bond girl. And she's 30 (Craig's 47) so it's not quite one of those movie star age differences that make you groan.\

Also, sometimes the movie felt genuinely funny, and other times humor bits felt a bit forced. As if maybe one of the four screenplay writers decided he wanted to insert a little Austin Powers into his James Bond.  icon_smile

Some plot points seem reminiscent of other films. I see that as a bit spoiler-ish so...
Spoiler for Hiden:
The whole "global" terror network seems a bit akin to MI: Rogue Nation. Though in the latter I remember it more as "disgrunteld good guys faking deaths so they can go bad" rather than "bad guys build a global network."

Also, one sequence with Bond and a baddy is similar to an early sequence between Ethan Hunt and the big baddy early in MI: Rogue Nation.
I enjoy the movie on its own terms. Certainly if I compared it with the last three, I'd put it behind Skyfall and Casino Royale. I feel like critics are bashing Spectre more out of comparisons with Skyfall.

I guess in summation I certainly found it entertaining. I can see what critics are carping about though.

I've read interviews with director Mendes. While he saw Skyfall's ending as "incomplete," I viewed it more as a perfect platform for launching a reboot. It was something of a origin story (at least learn about Bond's origins), and it winds up with the new M and Moneypenny. I guess Mendes eventually came around to feeling like it instead lead into one more story.

If Craig opts out of the remaining film on his contract, perhaps they'll consider a Batman Begins-style reboot "from the beginning" with a young actor. Though maybe that would sound too much like Kingsman: The Secret Service's plot.

Maybe they could even get Chris Nolan as director, he was rumored as a choice for Spectre if they couldn't convince Mendes to return. Or reboot specialist J.J. Abrams who could introduce lense flare effects to Bond's equipment and accessories.  smirk

Another possibility might be Matthew Vaughn -- who directed Craig in the 2004 crime thriller Layer Cake, which most credit as helping Craig get the Casino Royale Bond role -- though Vaughn would probably chafe at Bond's PG-13 limitations and is probably focused on a sequel to Kingsman.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2015, 06:18:22 PM by Blackjack » Logged

Playing
PC
-Helldivers (on Steam)
-Killing Floor 2 (Steam early access)
-Everspace (Steam early access)
farley2k
Moderator
Gaming Trend Senior Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 4645



View Profile
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2015, 04:05:01 PM »

The Onion reviews Spectre

https://youtu.be/o6JFUWgiGwc


* I posted before I watched it.  And while it is supposed to be funny it is actually kind of sad. *
« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 04:07:19 PM by farley2k » Logged

Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.20 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.312 seconds with 90 queries. (Pretty URLs adds 0.131s, 2q)