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« on: June 10, 2008, 06:43:15 PM »

http://www.dancewithshadows.com/motor/bmw-gina-light-visionary-model-concept-car-pictures/

A car made of fabric?  What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2008, 07:02:07 PM »

As the first post on the link said:

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Like to see the crash test or Ö. wouldnít want to be in it if it crashed

How can that even be remotely safe. Cool, yes. Safe, no.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2008, 07:08:53 PM »

You wouldn't want anyone with scissors near that thing. That would be:  crybaby
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008, 07:21:54 PM »

Just a concept car most likely there isnt even a real engine in it.
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2008, 07:47:53 PM »

The BMW GINA Light Visionary Model concept car does look interesting. But I'm not sure if the BMW GINA Light Visionary Model concept car will really work since there isn't a whole lot there. But I'm sure they can do quite a bit using the ideas behind the BMW GINA Light Visionary Model concept car and make more interesting cars and the ability that the BMW GINA Light Visionary Model concept car has in that it can change shape at will is pretty cool.

Over all I liked the BMW GINA Light Visionary Model concept car.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2008, 08:04:21 PM »

Quote from: Destructor on June 10, 2008, 07:02:07 PM

As the first post on the link said:

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Like to see the crash test or …. wouldn’t want to be in it if it crashed

How can that even be remotely safe. Cool, yes. Safe, no.

Do you really think the sheet metal, plastic and polycarbon body forms are any more protective? The frame is what protects you, not the shell.
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2008, 08:41:06 PM »

Video of it's moving parts is kinda freaky Especially the headlights.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2008, 08:45:41 PM »

I volunteer Daehawk for the crash test.  icon_twisted
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2008, 08:47:08 PM »

"Hey, there was a slight vibration.  Did we hit a bug?"

"Nope, you just crushed and ran through a BMW GINA Light Visionary Model concept car."

"Oh, serves them right for buying a car made of fabric."

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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2008, 08:51:09 PM »

What I want to know is, what happens when you take it to the car wash?
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2008, 10:11:45 PM »

Amazing.  Bangle get a ton of (undeserved) crap, but he's visionary.  He's also absolutely right about cars not needing a metal skin for structural integrity these days.
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2008, 10:19:50 PM »

That is actually a really neat concept.  There are high performance cars that deploy a spoiler at various speeds, imagine if your whole car could change shape to suit the speed/driving conditions?

To me a fabric skin isnít an entirely foolish idea.  It would certainly cut down on energy requirements to produce the car and power it (although I think in general fabrics cause more parasitic drag).  

Iím not even sure that safety would be a real concern with some solid engineering.  With a light weight car you carry far less kinetic energy into a crash and you still have the underlying frame to act as a crumple zone and absorb the force of impact.

Practical? Not yet.  But a very intriguing idea that certainly has potential.
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2008, 10:41:39 PM »

Quote from: Windows95 on June 10, 2008, 10:19:50 PM


Practical? Not yet.  But a very intriguing idea that certainly has potential.


Agreed. I think this is very cool. If they can come up with a fabric that's washable, stain-resistant, and puncture/cut-proof (kevlar?), I think this could be pretty big.
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2008, 11:31:14 PM »

Quote from: Rumpy on June 10, 2008, 08:51:09 PM

What I want to know is, what happens when you take it to the car wash?

You purchase a lint brush?   Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2008, 12:04:20 AM »

Some airplane skins are still made of fabric to this day so why not a car.
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2008, 12:22:53 AM »

Quote from: Hiccup on June 10, 2008, 08:41:06 PM


the headlights are freakin' sweet.
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2008, 02:00:44 AM »

Quote from: mori on June 11, 2008, 12:04:20 AM

Some airplane skins are still made of fabric to this day so why not a car.

How about the fact that there are things like rocks and debris on the road and getting kicked up by other vehicles?  It would also require a lot more interior structure to keep that loose fabric in it's shape while at speed and keep it aerodynamic and not flapping or tearing. 
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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2008, 02:43:25 AM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on June 11, 2008, 02:00:44 AM

Quote from: mori on June 11, 2008, 12:04:20 AM

Some airplane skins are still made of fabric to this day so why not a car.

How about the fact that there are things like rocks and debris on the road and getting kicked up by other vehicles?  It would also require a lot more interior structure to keep that loose fabric in it's shape while at speed and keep it aerodynamic and not flapping or tearing. 

These things do not exist on takeoff and landing? There are also many things flying around in the air that impact the craft. Aircraft with fabric skins and aerodynamic surfaces operate at speeds and g-loads far exceeding those of the automobile.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2008, 03:52:56 AM »

On a runway there are no other vehicles flinging up rocks from their tires, and plane tires do not have deep treads to carry rocks like car and truck tires.  Vehicles on a runway are also not potentially going on and off gravel surfaces, there is much less traffic, and they are maintained not to have debris on them.  Also, fabric aircraft wings are not simply loose fabric layed on top of a minimal shape outline the way it looks like this car is.  That fabric is attached directly to the wing ribs so that it doesn't move and balloon up.  Their fabrics are also usually treated with a coating material to make it tougher and more rigid.  And unlike cars, ultralights and most other planes are also not stored outdoors for long periods of time, and if they are the fabric wings deteriorate and need to be replaced because they are weakened. 
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2008, 10:38:28 PM »

Sounds like it would work fine. I used the airplane example because people don't realize how rugged and tough dope and fabric can be. I have seen this stuff last for decades with little care and exposed to all kinds of enviromental factors. Using kevlar and a wire mesh would be extremely durable and save considerable weight.
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2008, 10:57:02 PM »

And no more dings in my door at the supermarket!
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