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« on: October 07, 2011, 04:19:26 AM »

Since I made sure I paid my bill "on time" rather than the day before it's "considered late" by AT&T so that I will have a clear eligibility checker, I was interested in when it goes up for pre-orders tomorrow.  Apparently that answer is midnight on the west coast:

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On October 7 at 12:01 a.m. PT, the iPhone 4S can be preordered from Apple, Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T.

How it usually works: Apple open windows for several delivery periods. There is a limited number of iPhones reserved for preorders, and once they've all been claimed, Apple will open another window for a later delivery time--usually one to two weeks after the release date.

Carriers also have limited inventories for the iPhone 4S, but they continue taking orders on a first-come, first-served basis. Even after their preorders sell out, you can still order the iPhone, but it'll be backordered.

So much for going to bed early tonight.  My next painkiller is scheduled for 2 a.m., so there's no point taking a nap to that point anyway. 

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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 04:20:24 AM »

I think I'll probably get one, but not pre-ordered.
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 04:24:20 AM »

If I could pre-order, then pay for it on my bill after I got it, I'd be all over it.

But, I don't have the $300 (32 gig, can't justify 64 gig) until the 14th, I'm going to have to wait until the day I can walk into a store and hand over money for my sweet sweet phoneporn.
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 07:13:37 AM »

Verizon and Sprint both have their pre-order sites up.  I have not seen any indication of a website update for ordering one through AT&T.   icon_evil
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 07:36:17 AM »

It finally posts to AT&T, but doesn't allow me to order it with my grandfathered unlimited data plan.  When I remove it to refresh and try it again, it's back to not showing as available.  I hope that it shows they've got people working on it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2011, 08:11:43 AM »

Okay, yeah, that's going to be a FUCKING problem.

No unlimited data?  Buh-bye AT&T.
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2011, 08:16:07 AM »

Since they pulled it from the store, I imagine that it was a system error that they're trying to correct.  I'm fighting with the Apple store site directly now in an effort to get an order placed.  But my first attempt there just timed out.
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2011, 08:22:20 AM »

Second time out and the AT&T site is still not showing the new phones.  I'm not killing my whole night waiting on this.  I'll try again tomorrow.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 09:18:14 AM »

Wound up getting up at 5am to use the bathroom, so I pre-ordered. Pre-order said I have to change my data plan, but didn't say to what, so I'll have to sort that out when the phone comes. At least the ATT upgrade process is super painless.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2011, 10:00:40 AM »

No preorder here.  I don't have $317 available for another week.

Guess I'll get one at about the time when I can walk into a store and say, "Phone, please."
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2011, 11:06:06 AM »

Up at 6 to take a pill.  AT&T still acting like I need to change my data plan, so I tried through Apple.  They were able to certify my upgrade eligibility, required a selection of data plan, but had the unlimited available for me.  Order has been placed.
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2011, 11:13:28 AM »

Quote from: Zarkon on October 07, 2011, 08:11:43 AM

Okay, yeah, that's going to be a FUCKING problem.

No unlimited data?  Buh-bye AT&T.

I actually talked to a rep last night who assured me that I could upgrade with my grandfathered unlimited data plan, but when I tried to pre-order via the site it wouldn't let me.  Suffice to say I will go to the AT&T Store to purchase my phone next Friday.  If I can't get my unlimited data plan I will look to leverage AT&T vs. Verizon to keep my data plan
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2011, 11:16:16 AM »

Seriously, go through the Apple site.  Like many other things with them, it just works.  They've got a better handle on AT&T's plan availability than they do themselves.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2011, 11:29:10 AM »

I had no idea I could grandfather my unlimited plan; I thought getting forced into a new plan was part of the price of upgrading. This certainly ups the 4S appeal.

The main thing holding me back now (other than $$) is that upgrading now means I won't be eligible for next year's potential 5 release.   Hmm.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2011, 11:56:16 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on October 07, 2011, 11:16:16 AM

Seriously, go through the Apple site.  Like many other things with them, it just works.  They've got a better handle on AT&T's plan availability than they do themselves.


I think I will hold off.  I hate pre-ordering and being charged before the item ships and being locked in.  You cannot cancel... Another reason why I love Amazon.  You aren't charged till your item ships
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2011, 11:56:44 AM »

I went ahead and pre-ordered through Verizon.  It will be replacing my old LG phone, so it will be a pretty big upgrade although makes me wish I would have gotten on the data plans back when it was unlimited.
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2011, 02:29:33 PM »

Quote from: Soulchilde on October 07, 2011, 11:56:16 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on October 07, 2011, 11:16:16 AM

Seriously, go through the Apple site.  Like many other things with them, it just works.  They've got a better handle on AT&T's plan availability than they do themselves.


I think I will hold off.  I hate pre-ordering and being charged before the item ships and being locked in.  You cannot cancel... Another reason why I love Amazon.  You aren't charged till your item ships

Actually, in my experience, Apple doesn't charge until they ship, too.
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2011, 05:21:19 PM »

I'm curious for those of you who maintained the grandfathered unlimited, what is the monthly cost and do you also get the tethering included?

Also, I figured I'd deal with this later, but are there no more intermediate texting plans in AT&T, it's unlimited or nothing?

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I waited til midnight last night and kept refreshing and refreshing.  Finally by around 12:30 the site came back up and I was trying to simultaneously work the Apple Store App and the regular Apple website.  Both kept crashing on me, I got really close once on the App before it bonked out.  I gave up around 1am, woke up an hour later and used the app, and it went right through this time.  Verizon had their shit together, it seemed like it was up and available right at midnight.

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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2011, 05:25:15 PM »

Ah crap, sounds like I made a booboo going thru ATT.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2011, 05:41:19 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on October 07, 2011, 05:21:19 PM

I'm curious for those of you who maintained the grandfathered unlimited, what is the monthly cost and do you also get the tethering included?

I could be mistaken, but I don't think you can have both unlimited data and tethering through the official channels.
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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2011, 05:44:34 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on October 07, 2011, 05:21:19 PM

Also, I figured I'd deal with this later, but are there no more intermediate texting plans in AT&T, it's unlimited or nothing?

Yep, sneaky bastards pulled this a little over a month ago.  It was making the news channels at the time and there were some posts about it.   If you didn't change it then, then it's gone for you frown
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2011, 06:06:57 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on October 07, 2011, 05:41:19 PM

Quote from: rittchard on October 07, 2011, 05:21:19 PM

I'm curious for those of you who maintained the grandfathered unlimited, what is the monthly cost and do you also get the tethering included?

I could be mistaken, but I don't think you can have both unlimited data and tethering through the official channels.

This would be correct.   You have to get a limited plan to have access to tethering...
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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2011, 06:37:25 PM »

Phone pre-ordered! I had more money in my account than I was expecting, so I opted for the 32GB phone just in case. I don't think I would fill up the 16GB one, but I would rather be safe than sorry.
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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2011, 08:54:48 PM »

So if I preorder through Apple, I don't have to pay right this moment?
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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2011, 09:32:28 PM »

Quote from: Zarkon on October 07, 2011, 08:54:48 PM

So if I preorder through Apple, I don't have to pay right this moment?

I don't think so, but you'll still have to enter all your credit card info...

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Interesting note on 4G:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/07/att-looking-to-add-4g-network-indicator-to-iphone-4s-status-bar/
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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2011, 11:11:45 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on October 07, 2011, 09:32:28 PM

Quote from: Zarkon on October 07, 2011, 08:54:48 PM

So if I preorder through Apple, I don't have to pay right this moment?

I don't think so, but you'll still have to enter all your credit card info...

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Interesting note on 4G:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/07/att-looking-to-add-4g-network-indicator-to-iphone-4s-status-bar/

 I ordered thru apple for at&t and was charged the full amount for both phones.
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2011, 12:45:04 AM »

In for two!!

If the next one is released before next fall, I'll be pissed. Other than that, looking forward to the bump in specs and Siri.
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« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2011, 12:46:38 AM »

I'll wait until I can walk into a store and get a phone.
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« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2011, 02:03:43 AM »

ATT says the 4S has had the most pre-orders ever in 12 hours:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/07/att_announces_record_200000_iphone_4s_pre_orders_in_first_12_hours.html
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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2011, 02:04:24 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2011, 02:22:47 PM »

I pre-ordered on Friday because my 3GS is meh.  icon_smile

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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2011, 04:59:54 PM »

If you pre-ordered from Apple and your status is listed as "prepared for shipment" or some such, it may just be a delay in getting the info over.  You can go to UPS or Fedex and try to "Track by Reference" to see if your phone has already shipped.

I couldn't find a spot on Fedex but I did on UPS, and sure enough entering my phone number and zip code was enough to get a real UPS tracking number, phone is now leaving Hong Kong.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2011, 05:24:47 PM »

Anyone know if the 2 antennas will help in areas of poor reception?  Seems like they would but I dont know if one of the antennas is 3G only or restricted to x or y or whatever.
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2011, 06:02:45 PM »

Incidentally, if I look up my order on ATT it says "iPhone 4S 64GB Black Data Plan Unlimited for iPhone", so I'm wondering if the plan change that came up during the order was just an internal thing for them to identify people who are on the grandfathered plan. I'll wait until after the phone shows up in my account before I get worried.
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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2011, 07:08:03 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on October 10, 2011, 06:02:45 PM

Incidentally, if I look up my order on ATT it says "iPhone 4S 64GB Black Data Plan Unlimited for iPhone", so I'm wondering if the plan change that came up during the order was just an internal thing for them to identify people who are on the grandfathered plan. I'll wait until after the phone shows up in my account before I get worried.

Using the Apple Store app it shows that data plans are specifically marked for the 4S. Might be part of what people are seeing. There was also new red text on ATT that said unlimited plans grandfathered in would continue.
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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2011, 08:54:55 PM »

Quote from: Cortilian on October 10, 2011, 05:24:47 PM

Anyone know if the 2 antennas will help in areas of poor reception?  Seems like they would but I dont know if one of the antennas is 3G only or restricted to x or y or whatever.

I honestly don't think so, Cort.  Here's some more detail on the antenna:

http://gizmodo.com/5846638/giz-explains-whats-so-smart-about-the-iphone-4ss-antenna

So essentially it sounds like they have some "smart" switching tech that very quickly goes to the better reception antenna (not a novel concept in and of itself).  But if the core antenna(s) haven't been improved, that's only going to get you so far.  Generally speaking you need a bigger antenna to get better reception, and with all the new modes/configurations that are being supported, it's pretty clear that's not going to happen.
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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2011, 11:28:42 PM »

I managed to preorder at Best Buy.  64GB White, baybee.
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2011, 02:13:12 AM »

dammit, I just watched the video about Siri (not the GlaDos one) and now I want one.
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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2011, 05:45:43 PM »

Some early benchmark results (68% faster than iPhone 4, graphics performance looks good):

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/11/iphone-4s-geekbench-benchmarks-68-faster-than-iphone-4/
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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2011, 10:15:23 PM »

I'll be waiting on the iPhone 5 myself, just bought a iPad 2 a couple months ago and have a iPhone 4. The only thing I'd like to have is Siri.
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