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« on: June 20, 2006, 12:08:12 AM »

AICN link.

This is a super-cool breakdown of how they remapped Brando's mouth and voice to what his character says in the new Superman Returns. No spoilers involved as it basically is only a single line of dialog but it's fascinating the detail they went through to do it. Very cool stuff.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2006, 02:41:53 AM »

That's a ton of work.  The mouth movement looks off to me during the "you do not" portion of the clip.  Though it does look better once crystallized and with all the extra effects slapped on top.

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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2006, 02:42:41 AM »

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That's a ton of work.  The mouth movement looks off to me during the "you do not" portion of the clip.  Though it does look better once crystallized and with all the extra effects slapped on top.


That's exactly what I thought then I saw the crystallized stuff and figured that's where they'd hide the seams. smile
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2006, 03:25:40 AM »

Freaky. The nerd buzz on Aint it Cool has me quite excited for this flick. And it's a slow excitement, a gradual progression, so I don't think I'll be let down like I was with, say, Batman Begins, which I was insanely pumped for.
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2006, 12:46:39 PM »

Batman Begins ruled all.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2006, 01:07:31 PM »

Sauron could Kick Batman's ass.

So could Nada cuz as you know; It's time to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and he's all outta bubblegum.  biggrin
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2006, 03:00:31 PM »

Ok ..

1. If they did'nt change the dialog why not just clean up the original footage and use it?

2. Why did they have to use Brando again in the first place? Why not just use a new actor or CGI?
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2006, 04:39:28 PM »

I think they wanted to stay as close to the original films as possible.

Also Rythm and Hues is well known for doing talking animals in the industry, doing films such as Babe and almost anything else involving talking animals.
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2006, 04:54:49 PM »

Are you saying Brando was nothing but a talking animal? smile
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2006, 05:20:58 PM »

Well, he's a talking face in a crystal. Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2006, 03:52:20 AM »

Was that originally filmed dialogue, or a Brando sound-alike?
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2006, 03:56:51 AM »

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Was that originally filmed dialogue, or a Brando sound-alike?


I believe it was originally intended for use in Superman 2 (and perhaps some cut footage from Supes 1) when Richard Donner was at the helm but was later dropped when Donner was dropped and the picture self destructed.  One of the reasons being that the producers would have to pay Brando less if they didn't use the footage.  Since then the rights to the footage have been gained by Brando's estate.
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