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« Reply #80 on: February 02, 2009, 03:33:29 AM »

One of the most exciting Super Bowls I can remember seeing.  The Steelers deserved to win, they played 4 quarters of football while the Cardinals only played the 2nd and 4th.  But I can't believe that final play was so casually brushed off as a fumble.  From the replays I saw Warner's arm was CLEARLY going forward by the time he actually lost possession of the ball.  It was a surprising blown call in a game otherwise very well officiated.

Best and Worst Player: That Harrison guy on the Steelers.  He runs 100 yards for a TD and is responsible for a 10-14 point difference.  Then in the 4th quarter he unleashes a series of cheap shots on a down Cardinals player.  What a tool.
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« Reply #81 on: February 02, 2009, 03:34:10 AM »

Things I learned in the Superbowl

1.  Big Ben can't be sacked without an army!

2.  Larry Fitzgerald fucking rules.  WHY WHY WHY wait so long to get him involved?????

3.  Santonio Holmes is damn clutch.

What a great game.  I hope Larry Fitzgerald gets a chance to play for the Lombardi again.
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« Reply #82 on: February 02, 2009, 03:36:24 AM »

Quote from: leo8877 on February 02, 2009, 03:34:10 AM

I hope Larry Fitzgerald gets a chance to play for the Lombardi again.

You can bet on it...and it won't be just once.
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« Reply #83 on: February 02, 2009, 03:36:43 AM »

Quote from: Gromit on February 02, 2009, 03:28:10 AM

Quote from: Teggy on February 02, 2009, 03:23:38 AM

Rooney thanked Obama?

Obama was openly pulling for the Steelers..


[conspiracy theory]Exactly how hard was he pulling?[/conspiracy theory]
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« Reply #84 on: February 02, 2009, 03:38:33 AM »

Great game. I can't believe they didn't put that final fumble to the booth though. I certainly thought it moved forward from Warner's momentum, it was at least worth a review.
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« Reply #85 on: February 02, 2009, 03:39:04 AM »

Quote from: leo8877 on February 02, 2009, 03:34:10 AM

Things I learned in the Superbowl

1.  Big Ben can't be sacked without an army!

And this is what won them the game.  He was amazing at keeping plays alive. Not a big fan of the guy going in, but I was incredibly impressed with what I saw.
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« Reply #86 on: February 02, 2009, 04:02:54 AM »

What a game. Gromit, I hope you enjoyed it. Only one team could win, and it's hard to say either team didn't deserve it. The Cardinals completely surprised me in this game, and played lights out for 3 quarters. In the end, that was the difference though.

I honestly can't think of what to say right now. What a phenomenal game. All I can say is, can we put to rest that Big Ben is not one of the top 5 quarterbacks in the league? Seriously, when Fitz scored on the big play, everyone was cheering at the party I was at, and I pulled my friend aside and said, "this is exactly what I want. The Steelers are down by less than a TD and Ben has the ball." That's all I ever ask for in a football game.

More tomorrow. Right now I'm going to drink and watch Sportscenter repeatedly.

HERE WE GO STEELERS!
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« Reply #87 on: February 02, 2009, 04:17:40 AM »

Did anyone else thought the officiating was horrible?  Granted about of us were rooting for the Cardinals (not fans, just that's who we picked) so we could be a bit bias, but some of those calls left us puzzled.  Especially when you see Pittsburgh doing things much worse for what the Cardinals were called.

Overall the last 5 mins was a blast.  Thought the Cardinals had it, and then they played soft at the end.
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« Reply #88 on: February 02, 2009, 05:15:54 AM »

Quote from: naednek on February 02, 2009, 04:17:40 AM

Thought the Cardinals had it, and then they played soft at the end.
I'll be happy to see Clancy Pendergast (DC) shown the door...
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« Reply #89 on: February 02, 2009, 06:09:05 AM »

Quote from: naednek on February 02, 2009, 04:17:40 AM

Did anyone else thought the officiating was horrible?  Granted about of us were rooting for the Cardinals (not fans, just that's who we picked) so we could be a bit bias, but some of those calls left us puzzled.  Especially when you see Pittsburgh doing things much worse for what the Cardinals were called.

Overall the last 5 mins was a blast.  Thought the Cardinals had it, and then they played soft at the end.

No, the refs were equally shitty.  The overturned TD in the 1st wasn't "conclusive" - they kept showing a replay that showed Ben's knee as down, when it was still clearly 2-3 inches above the turf.  I don't know if he was in, but I never saw a conclusive replay .  The Cards got some extremely generous spots of the ball for 1st downs - they were handed 2 or 3 1st downs in the 1st half alone.  The holding call on Hartwig for a safety was ticky-tack - you see that on every pass play, yet the refs decide to throw the flag on one of the most critical plays in the game?  And the Warner fumble call that was overturned...if that's not a fumble, it's grounding.  On the opposite side, the defensive holding and the roughing calls against the Cards on Steeler drives were bullshit.  From what I understand, the Warner fumble at the end of the game was reviewed.  It was pretty clearly a fumble.  I think if they had overturned that, the refs wouldn't have made it out of the stadium alive.  Overall, I think the refs were fair, but lousy - they were very inconsistent.

On Harrison's 99 yard run...didn't anyone pick up on the fact that there was a penalty called on the Cardinals during the runback?  Since (I think) the half can't end on a penalty, if Harrison was down on the 1 (which he wasn't), wouldn't the Steelers have the ball at the 1/2 yard line of the Cards with 0:00 left and the opportunity to run one play prior to the half?  None of the announcers picked up on it.

Overall, it was a great game - probably the best Super Bowl I've ever seen, and that's saying something.  It was a fantastic game where every single star on the field (with the exception of Troy P.) made huge plays.  Warner threw for 350+ yards.  Fitzgerald was as good as advertised.  Dockett had 2 sacks.  Woodley had 2 sacks.  Harrison returned the INT 100 yards.  Ben should have been MVP and made sandlot football play after play to will his team to a victory.  All of the big names had really great games.  It was a back and forth game, with huge twists and turns.  The Steelers looked like they were going to blow the Cards out.  Then the Cards came back and looked like they were going to take the lead.  Then Harrison picks it for a TD.  Then the Steelers can't punch the ball in and the Cards stay alive.  Then the Cards score to take the lead and the momentum.  Then Big Ben engineers a fantastic drive for the win with :35 seconds left.  And let me say that I'm really, really glad that Warner didn't get a chance to put up the Hail Mary.  With those WRs, that would have been a major challenge to defend.

If the Steelers had lost, the goat should have been offensive coordinator Bruce Arians.  He called an AWFUL game and as a result Pittsburgh couldn't punch the ball in from the 1 and the 3.  I hope they fire him this offseason. 

But for right now, I'm just happy as be.  My beloved Steelers have one for the other thumb.  smile



Edit: I was right, the Warner fumble was reviewed.  http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28971640/  When the ball pops out and it's still behind your entire head, it's hard to claim that you were throwing the ball...

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« Reply #90 on: February 02, 2009, 06:15:58 AM »

Quote from: Blackadar on February 02, 2009, 06:09:05 AM

On Harrison's 99 yard run...didn't anyone pick up on the fact that there was a penalty called on the Cardinals during the runback?  Since (I think) the half can't end on a penalty, if Harrison was down on the 1 (which he wasn't), wouldn't the Steelers have the ball at the 1/2 yard line of the Cards with 0:00 left and the opportunity to run one play prior to the half?  None of the announcers picked up on it.

I think that was a hold called prior to the INT, so I'm not sure that rule applies due to change of possession.
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« Reply #91 on: February 02, 2009, 06:18:37 AM »

Quote from: madpeon on February 02, 2009, 06:15:58 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on February 02, 2009, 06:09:05 AM

On Harrison's 99 yard run...didn't anyone pick up on the fact that there was a penalty called on the Cardinals during the runback?  Since (I think) the half can't end on a penalty, if Harrison was down on the 1 (which he wasn't), wouldn't the Steelers have the ball at the 1/2 yard line of the Cards with 0:00 left and the opportunity to run one play prior to the half?  None of the announcers picked up on it.

I think that was a hold called prior to the INT, so I'm not sure that rule applies due to change of possession.

I think (and I'm pretty sure of this) that the call was on the Cards for something on the runback, not prior to the pick.
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« Reply #92 on: February 02, 2009, 08:03:46 AM »

Quote from: naednek on February 02, 2009, 04:17:40 AM

Did anyone else thought the officiating was horrible?  Granted about of us were rooting for the Cardinals (not fans, just that's who we picked) so we could be a bit bias, but some of those calls left us puzzled.  Especially when you see Pittsburgh doing things much worse for what the Cardinals were called.

Overall the last 5 mins was a blast.  Thought the Cardinals had it, and then they played soft at the end.

I was in a room full of people rooting for the Steelers and they were all bitching that it was biased against the Cards.  Thought that said a bit about the overall officiating.
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« Reply #93 on: February 02, 2009, 08:04:44 AM »

Harrison is a punk...should have gotten ejected for his foul play.

Good game, though.
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« Reply #94 on: February 02, 2009, 08:17:27 AM »

naednek until the last half of the fourth quarter (when the officials decided it was actually still a game) the officiating was DEFINETELY in favor of the steelers.  it was outright bs at times... though again when it became apparent it was still a game there were a few "make up calls"

and not to whine - but why wasn't that last call at least tossed upstairs? was it because of possible controversy of a game-ending play being overturned by the booth? (i thought it was clearly a pass)
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« Reply #95 on: February 02, 2009, 09:10:15 AM »

I kinda thought it was a pass too, but not so sure on the rule. He did fumble it before he was passing, but while the football was not really possessed he pushed it forward. So I guess that's a fumble. Could have gone either way, really, and I'm surprised it didn't get more of a review.
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« Reply #96 on: February 02, 2009, 12:58:14 PM »

Quote from: Doopri on February 02, 2009, 08:17:27 AM

naednek until the last half of the fourth quarter (when the officials decided it was actually still a game) the officiating was DEFINETELY in favor of the steelers.  it was outright bs at times... though again when it became apparent it was still a game there were a few "make up calls"

and not to whine - but why wasn't that last call at least tossed upstairs? was it because of possible controversy of a game-ending play being overturned by the booth? (i thought it was clearly a pass)

First of all, I already showed where the Cards benefited from bad reffing in the 1st half.  Second, I already showed where the last call was reviewed by the booth.
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« Reply #97 on: February 02, 2009, 12:59:58 PM »

Quote from: Blackadar on February 02, 2009, 06:09:05 AM

The holding call on Hartwig for a safety was ticky-tack - you see that on every pass play, yet the refs decide to throw the flag on one of the most critical plays in the game? 

Well yes, typically there is 'some' holding on almost every play, but in this case the O-linemen grabbed the D-linemen and pulled him to the ground and did so blatantly.  It was the right call.
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« Reply #98 on: February 02, 2009, 01:18:40 PM »

I thought the officiating was pretty lousy personally. Not because they were bad calls, but because how do you make those calls in the Super Bowl? Still, they got all of the challenges right. I'll give them credit for that.
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« Reply #99 on: February 02, 2009, 01:31:09 PM »

wow...what a game. Roethlesberger (sp?) and Holmes hooked for one of the most memorable pass plays in history.

Gromit, I really feel for you man.

Man I hate the Steelers (jealous). They've won 6, how many have they been to?
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« Reply #100 on: February 02, 2009, 01:49:45 PM »

Quote from: Blackadar on February 02, 2009, 12:58:14 PM

First of all, I already showed where the Cards benefited from bad reffing in the 1st half.  Second, I already showed where the last call was reviewed by the booth.

Where did you "show" it? Because nothing was said by the broadcasters and the refs for sure did not say "the play is under review" like they do every time the booth reviews plays. There was no official booth review of the play or else play would have been stopped. It never was. 
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« Reply #101 on: February 02, 2009, 02:06:32 PM »

What a great game.  I thought the Cards were very impressive; the Cardinals offensive line gave Warner tons of time in the pocket against an excellent pass rush, and the Cardinals defensive line absolutely dominated the Steelers offensive line.  That comes to my second point...the Steelers offensive line played an absolutely putrid game.  I know Steelers fans tend to love Kemoeatu, but that guy had about the worst game I've seen a guard play in a long time.  That play on the goal line, where they called a QB draw for Big Ben, he got absolutely run around by Gabe "the Bench Dweller" Watson.

This game absolutely increased my appreciation for Ben Roethlisberger, and for the Cardinals' ability to get called for stupid penalties to shoot themselves in the foot.  I mean...Adrian Wilson's idiotic penalty for running over the holder luckily enough didn't cost the Cards a TD...but seriously.  That guy is a veteran and a team leader.  Utter brainlock.
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« Reply #102 on: February 02, 2009, 02:18:02 PM »

Great last half of the 4th quarter. slywink

Nah...good game all around. Made memorable by the 4th.

Big Ben is pretty amazing. Dude is friggin' *huge* and he acts like Tarkenton back there sometimes.

Never seen so many holding calls before.  icon_eek

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« Reply #103 on: February 02, 2009, 02:27:06 PM »

We couldn't believe that they didn't send the last fumble upstairs. We were all sitting there watching the replays saying "Warner should get one more shot, that's clearly a pass." And they line up and play the last down without looking at it? Maybe it was a fumble, but it was really close and that HAS to be reviewed during such a critical moment. And by reviewed I mean the ref actually coming out and saying "The play is under review", and NBC goes to commercial for 10 minutes. That kind of review.
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« Reply #104 on: February 02, 2009, 02:30:24 PM »

And apparently, if you were in Tuscon, Arizona, you got a more 'interesting' game towards the end:

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US sports fans in Arizona got a surprise when their TV coverage of American football's Super Bowl was interrupted by a pornographic film.

Tucson-based KVOA-TV said it was "dismayed and disappointed" after some cable viewers had their match coverage disrupted towards the end of the game.

The company said the material was only seen by viewers of one cable network.

More details at the link.
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« Reply #105 on: February 02, 2009, 02:49:27 PM »

Quote from: BEEFHAMMA on February 02, 2009, 01:31:09 PM

wow...what a game. Roethlesberger (sp?) and Holmes hooked for one of the most memorable pass plays in history.

Gromit, I really feel for you man.

Man I hate the Steelers (jealous). They've won 6, how many have they been to?

They've made it to 7 Superbowls, and have now won 6.

I think Blackadar has the right of the officiating.  Not great, and hit both teams.   This league needs full-time refs.  And perhaps a larger officiating crew.  For every Cardinals hopeful bemoaning the final Warner Play, I bet we can run the tape back and see Wayne Gandy mugging James Harrison even more than the three calls he drew.
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« Reply #106 on: February 02, 2009, 02:55:31 PM »

Quote from: the Nightbreeze on February 02, 2009, 02:49:27 PM

For every Cardinals hopeful bemoaning the final Warner Play

It was clearly a fumble.
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« Reply #107 on: February 02, 2009, 02:56:05 PM »

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Quote from: Blackadar on February 02, 2009, 12:58:14 PM

First of all, I already showed where the Cards benefited from bad reffing in the 1st half.  Second, I already showed where the last call was reviewed by the booth.

Where did you "show" it? Because nothing was said by the broadcasters and the refs for sure did not say "the play is under review" like they do every time the booth reviews plays. There was no official booth review of the play or else play would have been stopped. It never was. 

Yes, because MSNBC (see the link I posted earlier) and the NFL must by lying.     Roll Eyes
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« Reply #108 on: February 02, 2009, 02:58:13 PM »

Quote from: BEEFHAMMA on February 02, 2009, 01:31:09 PM

Man I hate the Steelers (jealous). They've won 6, how many have they been to?

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« Reply #109 on: February 02, 2009, 03:06:32 PM »

Quote from: JayDee on February 02, 2009, 02:27:06 PM

We couldn't believe that they didn't send the last fumble upstairs. We were all sitting there watching the replays saying "Warner should get one more shot, that's clearly a pass." And they line up and play the last down without looking at it? Maybe it was a fumble, but it was really close and that HAS to be reviewed during such a critical moment. And by reviewed I mean the ref actually coming out and saying "The play is under review", and NBC goes to commercial for 10 minutes. That kind of review.

It was so obviously a fumble that the booth official took one look at it and said "fumble, play on". MSNBC reported this (as was linked earlier) and the NFL confirmed it.
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« Reply #110 on: February 02, 2009, 03:10:41 PM »

Santonio Holmes makes my head hurt.

During his quick interview after the game, he was asked what was going throug his mind when Fitzgerald was scoring on that long TD pass.  If this quote isn't word for word, I'm sorry but my brain shut down after I heard it

"I knew our defense would get us the ball back"...

Yes, yes they did, by allowing a 64 yard TD.

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« Reply #111 on: February 02, 2009, 04:23:45 PM »

Quote from: Hiccup on February 02, 2009, 03:10:41 PM

Santonio Holmes makes my head hurt.

During his quick interview after the game, he was asked what was going throug his mind when Fitzgerald was scoring on that long TD pass.  If this quote isn't word for word, I'm sorry but my brain shut down after I heard it

"I knew our defense would get us the ball back"...

Yes, yes they did, by allowing a 64 yard TD.



 icon_biggrin I thought that was funny too. 
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« Reply #112 on: February 02, 2009, 05:00:52 PM »

And to anyone who is still bitching about the Warner fumble (it was a fumble, it was reviewed, it is the correct call) at the end of the game, if it WAS an incomplete pass, then since it hit his lineman, it would be considered an illegal forward pass.  As such, the penalty is loss of down and 10 seconds run off the clock so the game would have been over.  Much like the first overturned Warner fumble had to be intentional grounding if it wasn't a fumble.

In other words, quit yer bitching.
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« Reply #113 on: February 02, 2009, 05:37:03 PM »

Quote from: msteelers on February 02, 2009, 02:58:13 PM

Quote from: BEEFHAMMA on February 02, 2009, 01:31:09 PM

Man I hate the Steelers (jealous). They've won 6, how many have they been to?

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They lost the 1995 season's to Dallas.

They won for the seasons of: 1974, 1975, 1978, 1979, 2005, 2008.

And for all you conspiracy nuts about Warner's fumble, come on down to Dallas.  I have a grassy knoll to show you.
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« Reply #114 on: February 02, 2009, 06:08:51 PM »

Quote from: Hiccup on February 02, 2009, 03:10:41 PM

Santonio Holmes makes my head hurt.

During his quick interview after the game, he was asked what was going throug his mind when Fitzgerald was scoring on that long TD pass.  If this quote isn't word for word, I'm sorry but my brain shut down after I heard it

"I knew our defense would get us the ball back"...

Yes, yes they did, by allowing a 64 yard TD.

I said almost the exact same thing to my friend when he said that.  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #115 on: February 02, 2009, 06:22:44 PM »

Quote from: PeteRock on January 29, 2009, 11:56:34 PM

As I have little interest in the game itself, I'm instead focusing my attention on our food offerings for the day.  My wife is originally from Pittsburgh and so she has asked that I prepare a famous Pittsburgh staple.  For the Chicago/Indy Super Bowl we shipped in hot dog supplies and deep dish pizza straight from Chicago.  For the Patriots/Giants game we made thin crust pizza and flew in lobsters from New England.  Unfortunately, as food in Arizona is pretty pathetic, and there really isn't a specific regional cuisine the area is famous for, we're left with the cuisine of Pittsburgh.

And so we will be making homemade Primanti Brothers "sammiches." 



I'll be making fresh coleslaw with Primanti's standard recipe, we're going to fry our own fresh-cut French fries, and we'll be setting up our multi-burner griddle to prepare the various meats and fried eggs (capicola and sweet sausage, mainly as they're our two favorite meat options when in Pittsburgh).  Fresh-cut soft Italian bread topped with fried capicola or sweet sausage, melted provolone, fresh-cut French fries, a fried egg, coleslaw, sliced tomatoes, and sliced onions.

Hell.  Yes.   drool   

I have to say that PeteRock and his wife Jaime are first class party hosts. I arrived around 2:45pm to find PeteRock already in the kitchen doing some prep work. Jaime was working the crowd keeping everyone involved and entertained. Even though I didn't know their other guests I always felt welcome and included in the discussions. The afternoon started with their signature nachos consisting of a homemade mixture of jalapenos, ground beef, shredded cheese and other seasonings. He also made homemade guacamole for the nachos that was fantastic. Throughout the day I mixed in bottles of my favorite root beer: Henry Weinhard's. Arguably one of the best root beers you can buy.



During halftime everyone except PeteRock went outside to play some Bocce Ball. This made for some entertaining and potentially dangerous games depending on how much everyone had been drinking. Fortunately there were no accidents or police called on our occasional rowdy game.

Meanwhile PeteRock stayed inside and dutifully finished making the  Primanti Brothers "sammiches." At the start of the second half we were all treated to our own personalized sammich with choice of capicola or sweet sausage. When someone mentioned that they wouldn't be able to eat a whole sammich and wanted to split one with their significant other the response heard from the kitchen was "Shut your mouth". They ate their own sammich. All around the room was heard garbled sounds of praise as everyone enjoyed their Primanti Brothers sammiches.

Somewhere in between all this food was a game playing.
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« Reply #116 on: February 02, 2009, 06:49:45 PM »

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No, the refs were equally shitty.  The overturned TD in the 1st wasn't "conclusive" - they kept showing a replay that showed Ben's knee as down, when it was still clearly 2-3 inches above the turf.  I don't know if he was in, but I never saw a conclusive replay . 

Ben's knee was clearly down.  His other knee was still 2-3 inches off the turf, but one knee down is all that's needed.
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« Reply #117 on: February 02, 2009, 06:51:11 PM »

Yeah, the overturned TD was the correct call. All in all, every review ended up with the right call, including the final fumble (which, again, was reviewed in the booth immediately after the play).

And it's "sandwiches" Tongue.
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« Reply #118 on: February 02, 2009, 06:58:55 PM »

Quote from: godhugh on February 02, 2009, 06:51:11 PM

And it's "sandwiches" Tongue.

Um, no.  It's not.  At least not in Pittsburgh.

Here, I'll even use it in a sentence:

"Yuns ready to drag up to head dahntahn for a sammich?"
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« Reply #119 on: February 02, 2009, 07:03:45 PM »

Quote from: PeteRock on February 02, 2009, 06:58:55 PM

Quote from: godhugh on February 02, 2009, 06:51:11 PM

And it's "sandwiches" Tongue.

Um, no.  It's not.  At least not in Pittsburgh.

Here, I'll even use it in a sentence:

"Yuns ready to drag up to head dahntahn for a sammich?"

According to the Primanti Bros. website and menu, it is.

http://www.primantibrothers.com/menu/city/strip/

Either way, the word "sammich" when it's spelled out remind me of Rachel Ray and it aggravates me slywink.
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