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« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2013, 10:30:14 PM »

Quote from: kronovan on February 07, 2013, 09:37:01 PM

Quote from: Rumpy on February 07, 2013, 09:26:29 PM

Don't you mean LucasFilm? LucasArts is their game company division smile

Yep I meant Lucas Films, but Lucas Arts chucking it as well would probably improve things too.

LeChucking it then? slywink I agree though. I know it likely won't happen, but I do wish they'd take at least some inspiration from the EU while moving forward as it does include some good characters. I like how the Thrawn trilogy handled the clone wars better than the Prequels however invalidated it may be and we'll never see anything of that nature, but any new SW could still feature the characters and have them going in a new direction.
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« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2013, 10:53:18 PM »

wish they had a copy without the text.  would make a good background image
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« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2013, 11:06:27 PM »

another good one...

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« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2013, 05:11:14 AM »

Makes me sad seeing the Millenium Falcon like that. frown
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« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2013, 06:21:10 AM »

reminds me of:

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« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2013, 09:33:30 AM »

"Jedi Search"? Wow, that must be the crappiest book title I've seen in ages.  icon_lol
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« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2013, 02:29:12 PM »

I have Volume II of that 'Jedi Academy Trilogy' called Dark Apprentice,I always meant to pick up volume 1 and 3 and actually read them all Tongue
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« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2013, 03:23:51 PM »

Quote from: Rumpy on February 10, 2013, 05:11:14 AM

Makes me sad seeing the Millenium Falcon like that. frown

Me, too.
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« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2013, 04:22:30 PM »

Frank Oz says would be up for being the voice of Yoda again,whether stand alone film or not,but he says not to expect the puppet Yoda to appear again  icon_cry
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« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2013, 04:10:08 AM »

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« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2013, 08:40:04 PM »

not sure how true this is,or will turn out to be because its the only place i have seen this news(and 'Fox News Latino' isn't the first place i go for my movie news)

Harrison Ford WILL return for Episode 7

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Okay,I just checked and AICN have the news as well,so hopefully it'll be true
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/61001
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« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2013, 08:51:20 PM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on February 15, 2013, 08:40:04 PM

not sure how true this is,or will turn out to be because its the only place i have seen this news(and 'Fox News Latino' isn't the first place i go for my movie news)

Harrison Ford WILL return for Episode 7

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Okay,I just checked and AICN have the news as well,so hopefully it'll be true
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/61001


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« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2013, 09:18:00 PM »

Awesome! smile
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« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2013, 08:01:57 PM »

With Harrison Fords bit of news(still not officially confirmed),this Rumour has (re-?)surfaced,which i think we have had before in other variations or has been said when people are taking wild stabs in the dark on what the new trilogy will be about

but,whatever..it has today's date on it Tongue

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Rumor: Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher Might Return for STAR WARS: EPISODE VII; Story Revolves Around Luke, Leia, and Han’s Children


er...all 3 of them? hmm,kinky

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The most recent unconfirmed rumor concerning the film states that Harrison Ford is in talks to reprise his role as Han Solo, and now a new rumor has surfaced that suggests Solo will be joined by his pals Luke and Leia, as Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher may or may not be returning in a storyline that focuses on the trio’s children.

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Before we get too far into this, it’s important to note that at this point nobody knows anything, so take the following rumor with the biggest heap of salt possible.  That being said, a report at Showbiz 411 claims that Ford, Mark Hamill, and Carrie Fisher will be reprising their roles as Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, and Princess Leia.  Moreover, the story apparently revolves around the children of the original trilogy’s main characters, as their spawn has been tapped as the new trilogy’s protagonists.


Oh,and this is from yesterday,same site
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John Williams Hoping to Score New STAR WARS Films


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“We’re about to play Star Wars and each time we play it, I’m reminded of the first time we played it decades ago. Neither I, nor George, nor anyone else involved thought this would go far or in a few years there would be a sequel and I’d have to revisit the themes…and years later another trilogy. Now we’re hearing of a new set of movies coming in 2015, 2016…so I need to make sure I’m still ready to go in a few years for what I hope would be continued work with George.”


This is in no way a confirmation that Williams is absolutely coming back to score the new Star Wars films, and it’s such early days on Episode VII that I’m sure a decision as to the film’s composer hasn’t been solidified just yet, but it definitely sounds like Williams is operating under the assumption that he’ll be asked back.


No matter what you think of the prequel trilogy,the music was still absolutely fantastic,Love theme from Episode II,Lightsabre Duals in episodes 1 and 3...Star Wars without John Williams,i am not saying will be bad,but i can't think of him not doing them
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« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2013, 08:57:11 PM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on February 19, 2013, 08:01:57 PM

No matter what you think of the prequel trilogy,the music was still absolutely fantastic,Love theme from Episode II,Lightsabre Duals in episodes 1 and 3...Star Wars without John Williams,i am not saying will be bad,but i can't think of him not doing them

The ironic thing about that is that John Williams completely ripped off Gustav Holst's The Planets, and I do mean ripped off. Some of the most memorable parts of the Star Wars soundtrack are lifted almost note for note from The Planets, and particularly Mars: Bringer of War.

John Williams is incredibly talented, but I'm confident someone else would be able to carry the mantle if he ends up unable to. It might not be exactly the same, but I don't think most people would really notice until they saw a different name in the credits.
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« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2013, 09:06:23 PM »

It's an iconic piece, and he's certainly not the only one.
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« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2013, 09:16:44 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on February 19, 2013, 09:06:23 PM

It's an iconic piece, and he's certainly not the only one.

Sure, it's probably one of the most influential pieces in the history of music, but John Williams is the only composer I'm aware of who's built his entire career on replicating the Gustav Holst sound.
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« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2013, 09:31:42 PM »

it's OK, I'm sure they could always use this as a backup.
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« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2013, 10:07:49 PM »

There's a lot more to the hours and hours of Star Wars than just the Mars piece.  The 48 Academy Award nominations, 59 Grammy nominations, and 22 Golden Globe nominations would suggest that you're not seeing the whole picture. 
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« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2013, 11:25:43 PM »

Trailer is out for the first of the solo spin-off films: Yody
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« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2013, 05:54:41 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on February 19, 2013, 10:07:49 PM

There's a lot more to the hours and hours of Star Wars than just the Mars piece.  The 48 Academy Award nominations, 59 Grammy nominations, and 22 Golden Globe nominations would suggest that you're not seeing the whole picture. 

No, it's simpler than that: You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. You could listen to Venus too, or any of the other pieces. Gustav Holst introduced a certain way of using orchestral instruments in unison, a new way of layering them to create new sounds, and a new way of building mood with each individual one. Brass in particular got a much bigger role in the orchestra, a role it has kept to this day, after having served as background instruments up until then. John Williams replicates this style completely, to the point where his style and Gustav Holst's style are impossible to separate from each other without being aware of the individual pieces. Here's an interesting tidbit: Fantasy Flight Games, which has the Star Wars miniature license, produced a video tutorial for their X-Wing Miniatures game. That video tutorial has a soundtrack. FFG does not have the license to use John Williams' score. Instead they used Gustav Holst's music (Venus, I think. Not quite sure right now). Nobody noticed the difference, except for a few people who went "I don't remember which part of the movies this music is from".

I'm not trying to belittle Williams' music, which I've always admired. Just pointing out that it's not quite so unique and original as many people assume it is.
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« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2013, 04:31:08 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on February 20, 2013, 05:54:41 AM

Nobody noticed the difference, except for a few people who went "I don't remember which part of the movies this music is from".

I noticed, but only because I really love The Planets.
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« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2013, 04:35:44 PM »

X-Wing Miniatures Tutorial Video

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« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2013, 04:39:13 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 20, 2013, 04:35:44 PM

X-Wing Miniatures Tutorial Video

BTW, if anyone does not have this game, get it.

Got it at Gen Con last year, absolutely love it, can't wait to get a Millenium Falcon and Slave-1 biggrin
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« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2013, 04:54:09 PM »

Quote from: th'FOOL on February 20, 2013, 04:39:13 PM


Got it at Gen Con last year, absolutely love it, can't wait to get a Millenium Falcon and Slave-1 biggrin


Don't forget the A-Wing and TIE Interceptor that are coming out as well!
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« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2013, 05:02:08 PM »

Quote from: The Grue on February 20, 2013, 04:54:09 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on February 20, 2013, 04:39:13 PM


Got it at Gen Con last year, absolutely love it, can't wait to get a Millenium Falcon and Slave-1 biggrin


Don't forget the A-Wing and TIE Interceptor that are coming out as well!

My local gaming store got the promo pack containing a Millennium Falcon, Slave-1, two TIE Interceptors and two A-Wings. It's meant for running contests where the winners can take home a ship of their choice. Instead my store put all the boxes on the shelf, and I accidentally stumbled upon them early one day. I took one quick look, then bought them all. Took me all of a minute. smile It sucks that I haven't had many opportunities to play with them though, even though I've had these things since December. Got in one match that featured one A-Wing and Slave-1, and it was very fun. Slave-1 is a beast, but it's also sluggish and easy to evade with an A-Wing.
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« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2013, 06:22:53 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on February 20, 2013, 05:02:08 PM


My local gaming store got the promo pack containing a Millennium Falcon, Slave-1, two TIE Interceptors and two A-Wings.

I think this might be the exact quantity of each of these that I buy.
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« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2013, 07:00:20 PM »

Quote from: The Grue on February 20, 2013, 06:22:53 PM

Quote from: TiLT on February 20, 2013, 05:02:08 PM


My local gaming store got the promo pack containing a Millennium Falcon, Slave-1, two TIE Interceptors and two A-Wings.

I think this might be the exact quantity of each of these that I buy.

I'm going to get two more TIE Interceptors as I can easily see them being used in larger groups. The A-Wing would be useless in such groups however, so two is more than enough of that ship.
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« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2013, 07:20:13 PM »

I'm also keeping an eye on Target for them to likely eventually clearance their core sets for some fleet building biggrin
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« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2013, 08:23:18 PM »

I snagged a TIE Interceptor and an A-Wing early for running the tournament event. Quite interesting additions to the game.
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« Reply #71 on: February 21, 2013, 03:36:42 PM »

Mark Hamill speaks!

Still nothing confirmed,but interesting none the less

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According to Hamill, Lucas told them about the sale and their proposed involvement in the new trilogy, but that if they didn't want to return they'd "write them out" ie kill them off screen like Hicks in Alien 3.

Hamill told Entertainment Tonight that no contracts have been signed, but it seems clear that neither Hamill nor Fisher wanted to be killed off since they're both slated to meet with Kathleen Kennedy and screenwriter Michael Arndt in the near future.

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« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2013, 03:00:40 PM »

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« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2013, 04:31:45 PM »

Ahh,I thought Lando had fathered them all?? icon_cool


EW has the same story about Mark Hamill,but with a bit more detail
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/02/21/mark-hamill-star-wars-episode-vii/

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While any casting decisions will ultimately be in the hands of director J.J. Abrams and the rest of the Star Wars Jedi council, Hamill suggested he’d like to see as many of the original cast members return as possible: “Another thing I’d want to make sure of is—are we going to have the whole gang back? Is Carrie and Harrison and Billy Dee [Williams] and Tony Daniels, everybody that’s around from the original [returning]? I want to make sure that everybody’s on board here, rather than just one.”

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And while he was sharing his Star Wars wish list, Hamill took the liberty of tossing in his own personal aesthetic plea for the future installments, one that will be music to the ears of those who grew up worshiping at the altar of the original trilogy and bemoaned the CGI overkill and sometimes ponderous plotting of the prequels. ”I said to George that I wanted to go back to the way it was, in the sense that ours was much more carefree and lighthearted and humorous – in my opinion, anyway,” Hamill said. “I hope they find the right balance of CGI with practical effects. I love props, I love models, miniatures, matte paintings — I’m sort of old school. I think if you go too far in the direction of CGI it winds up looking like just a giant a video game, and that’s unfortunate. … If they listen to me at all, it’ll be, ‘Lighten up and go retro with the way it looks.”

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“When I found out [while making the original trilogy] that ultimate good news/bad news joke — the good news is there’s a real attractive, hot girl in the universe; the bad news is she’s your sister — I thought, ‘Well, I’m going to wind up like Sir Alec [Guinness]. I’m going to be a lonely old hermit living out in some kind of desert igloo with a couple of robots.’ “
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How they spell Uma Thurman's name should tell you this is a mock up Tongue..and great that cast may be,i think not for a Star Wars film..Samuel L Jackson aside,spin off or not(Although Christopher Walken could play Han Solo  icon_wink )
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« Reply #75 on: March 02, 2013, 02:33:15 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on February 20, 2013, 05:54:41 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on February 19, 2013, 10:07:49 PM

There's a lot more to the hours and hours of Star Wars than just the Mars piece.  The 48 Academy Award nominations, 59 Grammy nominations, and 22 Golden Globe nominations would suggest that you're not seeing the whole picture. 

No, it's simpler than that: You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. You could listen to Venus too, or any of the other pieces. Gustav Holst introduced a certain way of using orchestral instruments in unison, a new way of layering them to create new sounds, and a new way of building mood with each individual one. Brass in particular got a much bigger role in the orchestra, a role it has kept to this day, after having served as background instruments up until then. John Williams replicates this style completely, to the point where his style and Gustav Holst's style are impossible to separate from each other without being aware of the individual pieces. Here's an interesting tidbit: Fantasy Flight Games, which has the Star Wars miniature license, produced a video tutorial for their X-Wing Miniatures game. That video tutorial has a soundtrack. FFG does not have the license to use John Williams' score. Instead they used Gustav Holst's music (Venus, I think. Not quite sure right now). Nobody noticed the difference, except for a few people who went "I don't remember which part of the movies this music is from".

I'm not trying to belittle Williams' music, which I've always admired. Just pointing out that it's not quite so unique and original as many people assume it is.

That's because most people don't pay attention to that sort of thing enough to know there's a difference.

The music played in that video did NOT sound like Williams.
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« Reply #76 on: March 02, 2013, 03:38:57 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on March 02, 2013, 02:33:15 PM

The music played in that video did NOT sound like Williams.

At some point during a conversation one might realize that further discussion is futile. Fine, if you think it doesn't sound like Williams, you don't think it sounds like Williams. Just be aware that your opinion is a full 180 degrees from established knowledge about the matter, including Williams' own words.
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« Reply #77 on: March 02, 2013, 05:18:01 PM »

Got a cite for all your "established knowledge"?
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« Reply #78 on: March 02, 2013, 06:03:40 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on March 02, 2013, 05:18:01 PM

Got a cite for all your "established knowledge"?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=did+john+williams+steal+music

Nearly 3.5 million hits

I haven't seen him admit to it, but I can't imagine he denies it.  Doesn't make him any less impressive, though.  Knowing what bits to borrow is still impressive as hell.
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« Reply #79 on: March 02, 2013, 10:14:34 PM »

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Quote from: pr0ner on March 02, 2013, 05:18:01 PM

Got a cite for all your "established knowledge"?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=did+john+williams+steal+music

Nearly 3.5 million hits

I haven't seen him admit to it, but I can't imagine he denies it.  Doesn't make him any less impressive, though.  Knowing what bits to borrow is still impressive as hell.

That also doesn't provide "Williams's own words".

That's not also not what Tilt is arguing.

John Williams can borrow from Holst, Mahler, Dvorak, Delerue, etc. and it will STILL sound like Williams.

James Horner can borrow from Copland and Rota and Prokofiev, etc. and it will STILL sound like Horner.

Hans Zimmer can borrow from Holst, Morricone, etc. and it will STILL sound like Zimmer.

I know all movie score composers borrow.  They borrow from other composers, and they borrow from themselves.  I know this more than most, as my several hundred CD soundtrack collection attests.  Yet, their music has an identity, a voice, that is THEIR OWN.  

Star Wars may owe something to Holst.  But it sounds like Williams, not Holst.
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