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« on: May 24, 2013, 01:25:13 AM »

So,i am about to start watching Star Trek:The Original Series on Netflix

I first made sure that all the episodes were on there before starting,so i looked it up and yup,80 including the pilot The Cage,but i also heard that 'Where No Man Has Gone Before' is the Pilot(and has a better name for it),but see that as Episode 4

so er...which is it?
EDIT: Okay NVM,i forgot you could look up separate episodes on Wiki


As i see all 5 series are on there(not included The Animated Series),over time i will probably watch them all
(Although The Next Generation has always scared me off for looking dumb in most episodes i have seen..dressing up and whatnot...a perfect example below)



DS9,Voyager and Enterprise i have seen nothing off..except that hot Vulcan in Enterprise icon_mrgreen
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 01:33:16 AM »

Oh wow, I wish I could watch DS9 for the first time again....
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 01:39:07 AM »

Ditto.  Garak rules Star Trek.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 02:21:44 AM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 24, 2013, 01:25:13 AM


(Although The Next Generation has always scared me off for looking dumb in most episodes i have seen..dressing up and whatnot...a perfect example below)



That's actually a really good episode, despite the presence of Worf's son.  Brent Spiner is great when he gets to chew the scenery as characters other than Data.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 05:56:16 AM »

There are actually two pilots for Star Trek. The first one, The Cage was first shot and everything about it was different, ie different uniforms and a different crew, and the only character to have made the changeover was Spock. You'll notice in that Pilot the different makeup he had. The network didn't want that pilot. A second one was shot, 'Where No Man Has Gone Before', and this time, William Shatner was cast as the Captain vs Jefferey Hunter in the first one. What's unique about this pilot is that since Spock was in both of them, Roddenberry decided to salvage what was shot in the first one and re-use it to build a new story around it, the presence of Spock in the earlier one explaining away a slightly earlier timeline. Hope that helps to understand why there are two listed.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 07:44:46 AM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 24, 2013, 01:25:13 AM

(Although The Next Generation has always scared me off for looking dumb in most episodes i have seen..dressing up and whatnot...a perfect example below)

DS9 and Voyager also used the holodeck for things like that, although not to the extent that TNG did.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 09:18:28 AM »

I watched The Cage last night and then the second first episode The Man Trap

Pilot:The Cage was quite funny actually with the monster costumes,and it was good that Captain Pike was in it(I know him from the new Star Trek movies)..the actor who played him in the pilot,died at age 42(in 1969)

when that woman regained her real self image,she said she was in the crash 18 years before,but the big brains of that planet didn't have anything to go off to put her back together,so she kind of looked like Quasimodo..even though the big brains are exactly the same as us,but well...bigger brains

it was an interesting episode though,doesn't really matter about the sfx,and you need to dismiss that anyway because of it being made in the 60s

Its a shame 'Yeoman' was only in the pilot,quite tasty in that 1960s way icon_biggrin

same for 'Number One' as well,they did decent enough jobs


Episode 1:The Man Trap,i see was where Red Dwarf got its ideas from in the episode Camille(They all see their perfect person,the cat see's himself)

Again,interesting story i hope it stays like that not fussed what the effects look like..the Netflix description said Scotty had a decision to make when an imposter boards the enterprise,but i honestly didn't see or at least notice Scotty

you can also tell the Captain(Kirk)is a lot more loose and friendly with his crew,than Pike was anyway(Pike didn't even answer Yeomans question on who would of been his Eve on the big brain planet...it would've been you baby!)

Production looked a lot better than the pilot,and yeah i could see that the effects and cutaways of the enterprise flying around the planet had been remastered

and it had another funny monster(I wont be laughing when its depleteing my Salt!!)



@Rumpy,I actually did notice the difference in make up in the two episodes for Spock,(mainly because his eyebrows were all over the show)but saw that Spock in the pilot acted like everyone else,he just had pointed ears/eyebrows,while in the episode after the pilot Uhura came onto Spock and he was having none of it(whether he meant to dismiss her or not),so he was as the morbid Vulcan Spock that i know(and love)

As i grew up only watching the movies i didn't even know Spock and Uhura were an item(or was)until i saw the new Star Trek movies
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2013, 10:30:38 AM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 24, 2013, 09:18:28 AM

Its a shame 'Yeoman' was only in the pilot,quite tasty in that 1960s way icon_biggrin

same for 'Number One' as well,they did decent enough jobs

Number One is actually Majel Barrett who played Nurse Chapel in the Original Series and also married Gene Roddenberry.  She's also the voice of the Star Trek computer.

Back in the day my 12-year old self thought Yeoman Rand was the foxiest thing ever.  (I still like her, but she's no Wilma Deering).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCOFKaahE1w
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2013, 10:50:45 AM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 24, 2013, 09:18:28 AM

and it had another funny monster(I wont be laughing when its depleteing my Salt!!)

aren't they all funny though?
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2013, 10:51:39 AM »

not come across her in the normal episodes yet,but good to know

cool song icon_biggrin

I used to love Wilma Deering as well

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and it had another funny monster(I wont be laughing when its depleteing my Salt!!)

aren't they all funny though?

yup,i have seen the one where Kirk is battling a human sized godzilla type,thats a funny one as well,not sure what episode it shows up in though(guess i'll find out soon)
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2013, 10:52:13 AM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 24, 2013, 10:51:39 AM

I used to love Wilma Deering as well

she was hawt.
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2013, 10:54:06 AM »

Oh,i did a search on Netflix for Star Trek The Animated Series and they have it,so will fit them in with all these series
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2013, 11:14:33 AM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 24, 2013, 10:54:06 AM

Oh,i did a search on Netflix for Star Trek The Animated Series and they have it,so will fit them in with all these series

wasn't that one supposed to be horrible?
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2013, 11:15:37 AM »

LOL..



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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2013, 11:27:14 AM »

did some more looking up at the animated series and wait.. where's Chekov?  did the cat girl and dog boy eat him?



oh, this explains it:

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Yet the studio couldn't afford the entire cast, so Chekov (William Koenig) was replaced by a three-armed, three-legged alien named Lt. Arex. Sadly, Koenig didn't find out about the snub until he heard the announcement with everyone else at a convention. Yet Koenig was able to participate. He wrote an episode for the show called "The Infinite Vulcan," becoming the first (but not last) Star Trek actor to write for Trek.

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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2013, 11:29:42 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 24, 2013, 11:14:33 AM

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 24, 2013, 10:54:06 AM

Oh,i did a search on Netflix for Star Trek The Animated Series and they have it,so will fit them in with all these series

wasn't that one supposed to be horrible?

dunno,like all the rest,I never seen it..22 episodes(23 minutes) though,2 seasons and has all the original cast doing the voices,can't be that bad,right?



I can see it working or being a benefit to all those sets and monsters,and i guess at the time this filled the gap for the cancellation of TOS
As said,i'll fit it(after TOS) in and report back here


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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2013, 12:31:09 PM »

I'm trying to get back into Enterprise on Netflix.

My recollection was I faithfully watched the first season (2001-2002), and loved the 1st seasonís cliffhanger, which seemed to strand Captain Archer in the 31st century with no way to get back to his own time. The 2nd season premiere seemed to resolve that in 5 minutes, which ticked me off, and I never paid much attention to the show after that.

Vox Sola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vox_Sola) was my favorite episode, and to my memory one of the few times the alien was more an FX creation rather than a guy with rubber prosthetics and a wig.

It seemed like the first season was more true to the pioneering spirit of the first starship, and then after that it seemed to veer into more 'space war' arcs.

The cast reunited for a panel interview/photos in April for the BluRay release.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2013, 12:54:07 PM »

The thing I remember most about the animated Star Trek series was that they carried an inflatable Enterprise around with them for some reason. 



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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2013, 01:55:10 PM »

I watched the Robert April episode of the Animated Series to gear up for Into Darkness (just in case...).

These old animated shows are a little slow moving with limited animation, but they take it surprisingly seriously (even with inflatable Enterprises). Also, supposedly, they are canon.
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2013, 01:57:11 PM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 24, 2013, 10:51:39 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 24, 2013, 10:50:45 AM

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and it had another funny monster(I wont be laughing when its depleteing my Salt!!)

aren't they all funny though?

yup,i have seen the one where Kirk is battling a human sized godzilla type,thats a funny one as well,not sure what episode it shows up in though(guess i'll find out soon)

That's "Arena" - the Gorn scared the crap out of me as a kid.
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2013, 02:24:17 PM »

I've always wanted to go to a Star Trek convention dressed as H.R. Pufnstuff and tell everyone I was a Gorn.



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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2013, 02:41:00 PM »

We did a marathon of all of the Star Trek movies a little while back, but man.....I'm not sure I could suffer through all the shows again.   For me, once was enough. 
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2013, 04:04:14 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on May 24, 2013, 12:54:07 PM

The thing I remember most about the animated Star Trek series was that they carried an inflatable Enterprise around with them for some reason. 



I kid you not.

OMG, I think I remember seeing bit of an episode with that....
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2013, 04:21:28 PM »

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Is...is that a lightsaber on the Gorn's belt?
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2013, 05:04:58 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on May 24, 2013, 02:24:17 PM



That's the Human Sized Godzilla i meant!! icon_biggrin
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Quote from: hepcat on May 24, 2013, 02:24:17 PM



Is...is that a lightsaber on the Gorn's belt?

hopefully that and not some alien pleasure device....
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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2013, 05:16:32 PM »

I would kill to see a bunch of tv dramas...but with Gorns.  

Mad Gorns.  A Gorn Don Draper would rock...

Or Two and a Half Gorns?  

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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2013, 06:55:28 PM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 24, 2013, 09:18:28 AM

@Rumpy,I actually did notice the difference in make up in the two episodes for Spock,(mainly because his eyebrows were all over the show)but saw that Spock in the pilot acted like everyone else,he just had pointed ears/eyebrows,while in the episode after the pilot Uhura came onto Spock and he was having none of it(whether he meant to dismiss her or not),so he was as the morbid Vulcan Spock that i know(and love)

Yeah, that's something I forgot to mention. With Spock's return, they decided to emphasis his alieness and make him more of a key player, and it's also when they decided to give Spock those characteristics of rejecting emotion.
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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2013, 08:08:03 PM »

The animated series starts out really weak and gradually gets better. Pay attention to the writers' names...you'll see some familiar and respected 1960s writers. Unfortunately, they were badly constrained by the 20-minute format aimed at children.

The animation itself remains uniformly cheesy.
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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2013, 08:27:57 PM »

Episode 2:Charlie X
Another funny episode,from Charlie putting on that face when he is using his powers to the duet(below),and Charlie got a crush on Rand and made people either disappear,age rapidly or turned them into a Iguana icon_lol




Episode 3:Where No Man has Gone Before

Pretty good episode,enter Gary Mitchell who has been Kirks friend for 15 years(where the hell has he been in past episodes then?),i remember Gary Mitchell's name came up when people were speculating who Benedict Cumberbatch was to be in STID




I felt his death was a bit weak,hoping he comes back in a later episode,oh and the Gravestone said James R Kirk is that a mistake?

and where was Bones?,had that older Doctor instead
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« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2013, 07:38:21 PM »

James R. Kirk is his evil twin brother slywink

Nah, it's a detail they had made before everything had been decided. They eventually settled on T for Tiberius. The older doctor is also before DeKelley joined the cast, I think the same doctor from the Pilot? Dr Piper was his name. Also, you might notice, that at some point, Kirk mentions the ship being the "United Space Ship Enterprise." That's another detail when things weren't yet finalized. You can see in the early episodes how they're still experimenting with things.
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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2013, 01:27:23 AM »

By the way, you'll get to rehash The Cage when you get to The Menagerie.
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« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2013, 03:05:32 PM »

I watched the first and last episodes of Voyager yesterday. Hopefully I didn't miss anything too important in between. Netflix streaming is great for sampling.
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« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2013, 04:30:16 PM »

Quote from: Moliere on July 15, 2013, 03:05:32 PM

I watched the first and last episodes of Voyager yesterday. Hopefully I didn't miss anything too important in between. Netflix streaming is great for sampling.

I had to stop at episode 10 because i lost U.S. Netflix  icon_frown


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Last episode was when they visited a place for criminals and they would warp their mind with some kind of hypno-device(Dagger of the Mind)

The episode before that one was good as well,where they visited a planet that seemed to be similar to Earth,and all the kids were 100 years old but seemingly not aging at all until they hit puberty,then they age rapidly(Miri)


Just started to watch episode 11,where a Rubik's Cube is blocking the path of the enterprise in space icon_biggrin
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« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2013, 10:18:22 PM »

I've been trudging through Voyager for months now. I am on the last season but have been derailed by finally watching Blakes 7 for the first time. (Spoiler, it's much better than Voyager.) I am about mid way through the last season of Voyager. It has been a bumpy ride to say the least. They do sprinkle in just enough good episodes to keep me interested (and there have even been a few great ones here and there), but the writing and acting for some of the primary cast members is so inferior to TNG and ESPECIALLY DS9. It's amazing how much more continuity and character development DS9 got than the other Trek shows. I still need to give Enterprise a try at some point, but probably not until 2014 at the earliest....
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« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2013, 10:54:17 PM »

Yeah, there are roughly two seasons' worth of good episodes in Voyager. I thought that they really screwed up the Borg on the show, and the final episode was atrocious. Paramount should have taken the whole damn franchise and given it to a whole new creative team, in order to save it. Enterprise could have been a great show, but alas...

Frankly, I could never get into DS9, due to my disliking the characters. I get that they did a lot of great things with the stories, even allowing for greater serialization, but I just don't care for any of the crew.
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« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2013, 06:23:29 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on May 26, 2013, 01:27:23 AM

By the way, you'll get to rehash The Cage when you get to The Menagerie.

yeah that was pretty good how they did that double episode,it probably would've been better had The Cage not re-surfaced as its own episode


Looks like The Romulans are being introduced in this episode i am now watching

last episode was about a Shakespearean actor who used to be a War Criminal or something like that


Oh,by the way,where is Chekov?
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« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2013, 06:30:28 PM »

Chekov was added in the second season. Technically, he was onboard for the first season, since Khan knew him in "Wrath of Khan", but you never see him until season 2.
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« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2013, 06:35:54 PM »

I watched the last episode of Enterprise last night. Or was it a crossover from Next Gen? Hopefully nothing important happened in all the previous episodes. An interesting way to end a series, I suppose. Btw, would they really be using the term "rain check" hundreds of years from now in a cashless society?
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« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2013, 06:57:20 PM »

Quote from: Moliere on July 16, 2013, 06:35:54 PM

I watched the last episode of Enterprise last night. Or was it a crossover from Next Gen? Hopefully nothing important happened in all the previous episodes. An interesting way to end a series, I suppose. Btw, would they really be using the term "rain check" hundreds of years from now in a cashless society?

You're right, that expression is as queer as a $2 bill.  The writers must have lost their marbles.  I should dial them up and punch their clocks!
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That's like blaming owls because I suck at making analogies.
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