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« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2010, 01:30:29 AM »

Yeah, my guess is that they're doing an incredible hulk.  remaking it now that the licensing gives them more freedom to interact with other marvel characters.  marvel seems to have an end goal of being a movie studio as well as a comics publisher at this point.  can't say that I blame them since it's definitely more lucrative.  i'm just sorry to see a franchise that started off with so much integrity start from scratch.  hopefully they'll continue hiring decent directors a la favreau and branagh, though.  i'll reserve my judgement on the end results until i see them, while applauding raimi for keeping true to himself.
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« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2010, 01:38:29 AM »

Quote from: hepcat on January 13, 2010, 01:30:29 AM

Yeah, my guess is that they're doing an incredible hulk.  remaking it now that the licensing gives them more freedom to interact with other marvel characters.  marvel seems to have an end goal of being a movie studio as well as a comics publisher at this point.  can't say that I blame them since it's definitely more lucrative.  i'm just sorry to see a franchise that started off with so much integrity start from scratch.  hopefully they'll continue hiring decent directors a la favreau and branagh, though.  i'll reserve my judgement on the end results until i see them, while applauding raimi for keeping true to himself.

Marvel doesn't have the license to Spider Man though, so he'll never be in those movies with the Marvel Studio ones like Iron Man, Thor, and The Incredible Hulk.  AFAIK Spider Man is still with Sony/Columbia, that's part of the reason for the studio dropping Raimi and going with the reboot.  If Sony doesn't make a Spider Man movie in x amount of time, they lose the rights back to Marvel.
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« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2010, 03:00:27 PM »

Quote from: leo8877 on January 13, 2010, 01:38:29 AM

Quote from: hepcat on January 13, 2010, 01:30:29 AM

Yeah, my guess is that they're doing an incredible hulk.  remaking it now that the licensing gives them more freedom to interact with other marvel characters.  marvel seems to have an end goal of being a movie studio as well as a comics publisher at this point.  can't say that I blame them since it's definitely more lucrative.  i'm just sorry to see a franchise that started off with so much integrity start from scratch.  hopefully they'll continue hiring decent directors a la favreau and branagh, though.  i'll reserve my judgement on the end results until i see them, while applauding raimi for keeping true to himself.

Marvel doesn't have the license to Spider Man though, so he'll never be in those movies with the Marvel Studio ones like Iron Man, Thor, and The Incredible Hulk.  AFAIK Spider Man is still with Sony/Columbia, that's part of the reason for the studio dropping Raimi and going with the reboot.  If Sony doesn't make a Spider Man movie in x amount of time, they lose the rights back to Marvel.

ah, my mistake.  i thought marvel had bought back all their characters a little while ago.  i looked it up because i was curious and noticed that marvel has sued sony and tried to get the licensing revoked.  seems like it's a point of contention between them.
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« Reply #83 on: January 20, 2010, 05:18:08 AM »

looks like Marc Webb is the new director.
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« Reply #84 on: January 20, 2010, 06:00:24 AM »

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looks like Marc Webb is the new director.

Huh, he most recently directed (500) Days of Summer.
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« Reply #85 on: January 20, 2010, 06:04:52 AM »

That was a good movie.  But then I'm partial to Zooey.  Don't exactly know how that translates into a new Spider-Man movie...
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« Reply #86 on: January 20, 2010, 06:07:55 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on January 20, 2010, 06:04:52 AM

That was a good movie.  But then I'm partial to Zooey.  Don't exactly know how that translates into a new Spider-Man movie...

That echoes my unspoken thoughts exactly.
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« Reply #87 on: January 20, 2010, 11:23:46 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on January 20, 2010, 06:04:52 AM

That was a good movie.  But then I'm partial to Zooey.  Don't exactly know how that translates into a new Spider-Man movie...

Well, a lot of people thought McGwire would be a terrible Spiderman (myself included) and he was perfect. So maybe they'll strike gold again.

Also, 500 Days of Summer is one of the best movies of the decade.
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« Reply #88 on: January 20, 2010, 01:06:49 PM »

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I just worry a "reboot" will cast Parker as a snotty punk with "edgy" appeal, totally beside the point for the character. I mean, the first Spidey movie came out in 2002, and now they already want to 'reboot' the character?  icon_confused

I doubt that'll happen.

High School is where Spidey started and spent many, many years.  One of the reasons Spidey resonates so strongly is that, underneath the mask, he's a regular guy.  Then his body goes through these changes, and after some awkward time adjusting, he gets in tune with it.  It's a perfect description of teen years, and it's why Stan Lee set his stories in high school.  When the setting works well, there are nice parallels between these incredible battles and smaller battles in school (bullies, temptations, peer pressure, hormones, etc).  It's fertile ground, and writers (especially Bendis in the Ultimate line) have been making good use of it since the character began.

Of course, that doesn't mean that a studio-controlled flick with a talented but under-the-thumb director on his first "big" movie is going to work.  But I still think there are enough clearly defined expectations for the character that they're not going to suddenly make Peter Parker the cool kid (or goth kid or kid in the fedora) in his school.  Awkward average kid with smarts seems to just fit the mold.
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« Reply #89 on: January 20, 2010, 02:27:50 PM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on January 20, 2010, 11:23:46 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on January 20, 2010, 06:04:52 AM

That was a good movie.  But then I'm partial to Zooey.  Don't exactly know how that translates into a new Spider-Man movie...

Well, a lot of people thought McGwire would be a terrible Spiderman (myself included) and he was perfect. So maybe they'll strike gold again.

One thing that Spider-Man 3 showed was that they made the wrong choice in not casting Topher Grace as Peter Parker.
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« Reply #90 on: January 20, 2010, 07:25:45 PM »

Will be interesting to see the final product when it comes out, but I can't get the word "Twilight" out of my head as I read about Sony's new move.
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« Reply #91 on: January 20, 2010, 11:22:55 PM »

Zooey Deschanel would be a fine Mary Jane Watson, if you ask me. But I'm about 99.99% she has no interest in doing a comic book film, period. Though if she loved working with Webb, who knows?
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« Reply #92 on: January 20, 2010, 11:25:35 PM »

Quote from: Blackjack on January 20, 2010, 11:22:55 PM

Zooey Deschanel would be a fine Mary Jane Watson, if you ask me. But I'm about 99.99% she has no interest in doing a comic book film, period. Though if she loved working with Webb, who knows?

Well she did do Hitchhiker's.  But I'm thinking she's too old for what they want anyway. 
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« Reply #93 on: January 25, 2010, 05:18:57 PM »

Clive Owen as Kraven the Hunter????  Rumors swirling on AICN
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« Reply #94 on: January 25, 2010, 05:22:42 PM »

Quote from: leo8877 on January 25, 2010, 05:18:57 PM

Clive Owen as Kraven the Hunter????  Rumors swirling on AICN

Clive Owen can play anyone he damn well pleases.   icon_smile  That guy's great.  I still think he would've made a great Bond (although Craig knocks it out of the park now).
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« Reply #95 on: January 25, 2010, 05:23:26 PM »

I just re-watched Spider Man 2, and Toby reminds me of Gollum with hair.

I think Dolph would have made a better Peter Parker... Maguire is way too snivelling.

Also, there was a lot of pointlessness in Spider Man 2. There was too many villains in #3.
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« Reply #96 on: January 25, 2010, 05:24:39 PM »

I disagree.  I think McGuire is a fantastic Peter Parker.  He's an actor's actor.  He captures the essence of the comic character with ease (well, at least in 1 and 2).
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« Reply #97 on: January 25, 2010, 06:16:52 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on January 25, 2010, 05:24:39 PM

I disagree.  I think McGuire is a fantastic Peter Parker.  He's an actor's actor.  He captures the essence of the comic character with ease (well, at least in 1 and 2).


what?...you didn't like his dance moves in 3? icon_lol
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« Reply #98 on: January 25, 2010, 06:20:49 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on January 25, 2010, 05:24:39 PM

I disagree.  I think McGuire is a fantastic Peter Parker.  He's an actor's actor.  He captures the essence of the comic character with ease (well, at least in 1 and 2).

Agreed.

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Also, there was a lot of pointlessness in Spider Man 2.


I don't know that I would call it pointlessness, but there are things that bug me about the storyline in the movie when I go back and watch it now, such as how he loses his powers.  He didn't want to be Spider-Man, so he loses his powers?  Really?  His DNA was altered by the spider bite.  That would be like me saying that I no longer wanted to see, and I'd wake up with no sight.  There were small things like that throughout the movie that could have been handled a bit better, IMO.
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« Reply #99 on: January 25, 2010, 06:51:50 PM »

He didn't come across as overly smart - he was just as much detective as he was scientist.

I dunno - different strokes, I suppose. I found that Harry Osborne's role in the second movie was wasted.

Now I'm afraid to re-watch Spider Man.
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« Reply #100 on: January 25, 2010, 09:23:39 PM »

Quote from: Purge on January 25, 2010, 06:51:50 PM

He didn't come across as overly smart - he was just as much detective as he was scientist.

I dunno - different strokes, I suppose. I found that Harry Osborne's role in the second movie was wasted.

Now I'm afraid to re-watch Spider Man.


i thought he came across as very smart from the opening seconds of the first movie to the final scenes of the 2nd movie (in the third movie everything took a backseat to the deluge of villains).  as you say, different strokes...but i doubt they could have cast a better actor in the role of Peter Parker.  Critics and audiences both love him.
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« Reply #101 on: January 25, 2010, 10:01:05 PM »

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i thought he came across as very smart from the opening seconds of the first movie to the final scenes of the 2nd movie (in the third movie everything took a backseat to the deluge of villains).  as you say, different strokes...but i doubt they could have cast a better actor in the role of Peter Parker.  Critics and audiences both love him.

Other than Norman Osborn asking him if he wanted to come work for him, I don't remember much mention of his intelligence in the first one.  The second one they did when he met Octavius for the first time and had dinner with he and his wife.

And in the third one, the black suit turned him into a dancing idiot.
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« Reply #102 on: January 25, 2010, 10:46:19 PM »

Did you need him to wear a button that read "SUPER GENIUS" in huge red letters?   icon_lol

They made more than one mention in both movies that he was incredibly intelligent (the aformentioned osborne scene, dr. lizard telling him he was his most promising student, being called an egghead repeatedly by his classmates, etc.).  The movie and the comic book are called "Spiderman" though, and not "Stephen Hawking".
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« Reply #103 on: January 25, 2010, 11:25:11 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on January 25, 2010, 10:46:19 PM

Did you need him to wear a button that read "SUPER GENIUS" in huge red letters?   icon_lol

They made more than one mention in both movies that he was incredibly intelligent (the aformentioned osborne scene, dr. lizard telling him he was his most promising student, being called an egghead repeatedly by his classmates, etc.).  The movie and the comic book are called "Spiderman" though, and not "Stephen Hawking".

note that I didn't say they needed to say it anymore than they did.  slywink

I thought they handled it well, especially in the 2nd one.
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« Reply #104 on: January 26, 2010, 12:49:01 AM »

I know...i just really want a superhero movie based on Stephen Hawking.   icon_frown
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« Reply #105 on: January 26, 2010, 01:11:54 AM »

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I know...i just really want a superhero movie based on Stephen Hawking.   icon_frown

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« Reply #106 on: January 26, 2010, 02:20:44 AM »

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I know...i just really want a superhero movie based on Stephen Hawking.   icon_frown

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« Reply #107 on: January 26, 2010, 12:58:57 PM »

Since when did Professor X have a cat? Does he pet it all evilly now like Dr. Claw or something? biggrin
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« Reply #108 on: January 26, 2010, 02:11:38 PM »

D'uh! Its an artists rendering, okay? Not a real photo...
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« Reply #109 on: January 26, 2010, 03:02:41 PM »

the cat is probably another superhero. smile
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« Reply #110 on: January 26, 2010, 04:41:24 PM »

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The movie and the comic book are called "Spiderman" though, and not "Stephen Hawking".

Actually..



that would be Spider-man, not Spiderman. I recall him mentioning that "Spider-Man is two words and not one" during a sound clip in the third game.

And Toby Maguire is a little emo pansy. It really was only a matter of time until he broke out into dance.

Once you've seen three, go watch two again. Enjoy the deep sunken eyeballs, the pasty nature of his mental block preventing his spider skills from manifesting, etc.

The Spider-man world is so rich with good stories, and instead it feels ... overwrought. Beside Iron-Man (which wasn't all that complex of a story), only Raimi's first movie and Doc-Oc were, for me, worth that kind of praise.

Lastly, Peter spends a lot of time working on his webbing gadgets to be able to conquer his different enemies. His bedroom is laboratory, not some place for timid immigrant daughters of his landlord to come over with chocolate cake. I still don't get the importance of those moments. It's like having a boring elevator scene in the middle of a car chase that has no relation to action at all.

I'm just glad Raimi didn't decide to include a real look at super-hero challenges like constipation, or watching TV cross-legged and having Peter's foot fall asleep.
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Since when did Professor X have a cat? Does he pet it all evilly now like Dr. Claw or something? biggrin

I like how he made sure he had the off-road treads on before venturing into the woods.
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« Reply #112 on: February 11, 2010, 02:18:59 PM »

Now they're saying it'll be in 3-D:
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Apparently, the costume color will be changed to blue, and Sigourney Weaver's going to play Aunt May.  Roll Eyes I hope I'm joking...
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« Reply #113 on: February 11, 2010, 03:22:49 PM »

I don't think that's purely an Avatar thing (though that movies sales have probably helped).  It feels like every big movie coming out is going to have a 3D component.  And that was happening before Avatar came out.
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« Reply #114 on: February 11, 2010, 03:25:16 PM »

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I don't think that's purely an Avatar thing (though that movies sales have probably helped).  It feels like every big movie coming out is going to have a 3D component.  And that was happening before Avatar came out.

yeah, i've heard the Deathly Hallows will have some 3D and the girls dressing up as a furry wearing blue body paint.
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« Reply #115 on: May 27, 2010, 05:22:50 PM »

Short list of actors they're considering as the new spidey

I don't really like any of them except for Jamie Bell.  He may be a little older than the rest but he's definitely a good actor.
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« Reply #116 on: May 27, 2010, 05:28:49 PM »

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Short list of actors they're considering as the new spidey

I don't really like any of them except for Jamie Bell.  He may be a little older than the rest but he's definitely a good actor.

+1 for Jamie Bell.  Seems like a great fit for the new spidey IMHO
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« Reply #117 on: May 27, 2010, 05:45:03 PM »

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Quote from: hepcat on May 27, 2010, 05:22:50 PM

Short list of actors they're considering as the new spidey

I don't really like any of them except for Jamie Bell.  He may be a little older than the rest but he's definitely a good actor.

+1 for Jamie Bell.  Seems like a great fit for the new spidey IMHO

even at 24, he looks the part best.  Alden looks like a young Leo, so that won't work for peter unless they are making him into a jock/bad boy. Frank could do it if he can lose the emo look and is probably the next best to jamie. andrew, too old looking for high school.  josh looks like the bully, but it's not completely impossible.
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« Reply #118 on: May 27, 2010, 11:43:13 PM »

yeah i am in for Jamie Bell,i can't believe it is only 10 years since he came onto the scene with Billy Elliot....he also plays Tin Tin in the upcoming Spielberg film
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« Reply #119 on: May 29, 2010, 05:26:29 PM »

what?  no emo Peter Parker?  Tongue

add me to the list of thinking Jamie Bell should be the new non-emo Spidey.
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