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« on: November 17, 2004, 03:55:39 PM »

So I moved into my new apartment in downtown Dallas. I love the view. I love the new floor layout. I love that I'm the first person to live in my unit.

But I hate my bathroom. Not only is the bathtub too shallow to take a bath in (it's like sitting in a not-quite-waist-deep puddle), not only does water get EVERYWHERE when I shower (am I supposed to spend 15 minutes sopping up water every morning?), not only does water puddle up and not totally drain out of the tub -- but every day I've felt a bit less clean that I should after my shower.

And then last night I noticed that my clothes had a ... greasy ... feel when coming out of the washing machine.

And today I learned the truth: the bastards soften the water. They take Dallas' beautiful, hard, deliriously perfect water and ruin it by stripping it of its strength and vigor. The water in my apartment is a tepid, slimy mess. Soft water. I hated living in Kansas because of the soft water, and now I'm paying for the "luxury" of water that doesn't do the job.

I could put up with the structural inanities of the bathroom -- layer up towels on the flat surfaces, squeegee quickly, keep the water running while taking a bath -- but the soft water is unbearable. Had I known about this (I wish I had known to ask) I would never have signed a lease at this place. I love taking showers, or at least I did. But what good is a shower that doesn't really make you feel warm, doesn't really get you clean, and that leaves you feeling slimy?

My new place is fabulous. Beautiful. But I because of this, I wouldn't recommend the complex to anyone. Ever.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2004, 04:27:50 PM »

I don't believe Kansas water is soft (at least in the KC area).

I have a water softener though, and you get used to it.  I actually feel a lot cleaner with the soft water than I did with the hard.  You might try to find out how much the water is being softened though, as too much can be a bad thing.

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2004, 05:01:52 PM »

I have experienced both soft and hard water and the main thing I have found is how hard it is to dry off with one of them (don't know which one)

What does soft and hard actually mean in regard to the makeup of the water though?
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2004, 05:04:31 PM »

The water in Lawrence, KS, is definitely soft.

Soft water is, basically, water that has a low levels of mineral content, while hard water includes more minerals. Hard water can dry out your skin (so it's bad for my exema), but it is also much better at getting things clean since it has a bit of "grit" to it. With soft water, I feel like I have to scrub to get soap off my body.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2004, 05:14:30 PM »

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The water in Lawrence, KS, is definitely soft.

Soft water is, basically, water that has a low levels of mineral content, while hard water includes more minerals. Hard water can dry out your skin (so it's bad for my exema), but it is also much better at getting things clean since it has a bit of "grit" to it. With soft water, I feel like I have to scrub to get soap off my body.


Thanks!  I definitely have hard water at my apartment.  I don't like soft water either.  My grandmother has softwater and slick towels and it takes me a good 15 minutes to dry off.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2004, 05:15:37 PM »

Well...from another D/FW area citizen,  welcome to the Metroplex. smile  I'm living out in the Hurst/Euless/Bedford area, and they've managed to keep the balance just right (it leans towards hard)
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2004, 05:28:49 PM »

I've lived in Dallas for most of my life, actually. But most of that was up in the (ahem) Park Cities. I used to live in the Village off of US 75. Now I'm down at 1001 Ross Avenue.

Yay, my swank new bed from Crate & Barrel just arrived. This makes me happy enough to ignore the limp water in this place for a few days. When in doubt, surround me with pretty new things.

And for the record, if you're a gay man complaining about soft water, don't describe the water you like as being "hot, hard and strong," because people will look at you funny.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2004, 05:31:36 PM »

Your water needs Viagra treatments.  nod
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2004, 06:12:44 PM »

Where I live they may or may not soften the water at the pumping stations, but by the time it gets to my house it's been through at least 3 miles of concrete, wood (yes, wood) and metal pipes that sometimes it feels like tiny rocks coming out of the tap!

  But collect enough of those rocks and chill them to just above freezing and you have the perfect natural beverage.  Besides beer.

  Soft water is for sucks.

  You could always find yourself about 10 old crusted over shower heads and filter all your water through them!  It would be like a reverse-softener.  Hmm, a water hardener.  Million dollar idea right there.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2004, 06:56:40 PM »

Here in Tennessee we use the old fashion plain type of water...mine comes from this here thing called a "well" .....no hard or soft water here...no sir ree. Feels good! Tastes good! and rinses clean away. You yuppies and your special water.  :roll:
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2004, 07:25:55 PM »

If it comes out of a well it is almost certainly hard water.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2004, 07:44:55 PM »

And it's also the most contaminated.... Do you have a septic tank?
Ever have the septic guy explain to you how the "system" works. I don't think I'll ever drink the tap water at my house again. slywink
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2004, 07:52:28 PM »

Who exactly is softening the water?  Is it their a filter on the in-bound pipes in your complex?  If so do you have a tenants association and can you organize other hard water lovers to unite and get it changed?  I lived in the Addison area for the past 7 years and the water here is so gritty that it leaves a bright-orange residue in the tub and by the sink drain.  Mmm, bright-orange residue.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2004, 07:58:31 PM »

The complex itself softens the water as it comes in. They filter it (I hope they're not also taking out the flouride, I like having strong teeth). It tastes funny out of the tap.

There's no resident's association, and I'm not sure if our lease allows us to set one up. In any case, the building is only 11% occupied so far (80% leased out, though), so there aren't many of us to go complainin' and I don't have many immediate neighbors.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2004, 08:27:28 PM »

Well, I have to disagree with you there Kirk, I LOVE soft water.  I grew up on it in Lubbock.  No, the water there is not soft naturally, my parents have a water softener system in the house.  Water softeners use salt as one of the elements to soften the water - that's what they use - don't ask me how it works.  WBS doesn't know this, but I have always wanted to put in a water softening system in my house.  Not in the current townhome we own, but the first house - I can't wait.

We could trade, but I don't think that would work.  Just wait a few weeks, the water will start to feel so good!  You don't have to use lotion to keep your skin soft and growing up my best friends always complemented me on how soft my hair was.  It sucks to drink because of the salt - but that is what bottled water is for.

I would love to have soft water like you!

But, if you don't come to appreciate it in a few weeks or so - sorry about that, and just try to embrace it for the good that it is.  smile
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2004, 08:56:40 PM »

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Here in Tennessee we use the old fashion plain type of water...mine comes from this here thing called a "well" .....no hard or soft water here...no sir ree. Feels good! Tastes good! and rinses clean away. You yuppies and your special water.  :roll:


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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2004, 08:57:04 PM »

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WBS doesn't know this, but I have always wanted to put in a water softening system in my house.  Not in the current townhome we own, but the first house - I can't wait.


Well, I didn't til I read this but you can bet the house itself I'm saying "Hell no" to soft water. I've showered in your parents' house - I then feel the need to squeege myself afterwards. Soft water in Casa de Whiteboy? Nope.

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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2004, 09:19:40 PM »

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WBS doesn't know this, but I have always wanted to put in a water softening system in my house. Not in the current townhome we own, but the first house - I can't wait.


Well, I didn't til I read this but you can bet the house itself I'm saying "Hell no" to soft water. I've showered in your parents' house - I then feel the need to squeege myself afterwards. Soft water in Casa de Whiteboy? Nope.

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Wow.  I sense a debate coming up in this house.  Maybe this is my chance to sneak over and *ahem* borrow his HL2 copy. smile
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2004, 09:25:13 PM »

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WBS doesn't know this, but I have always wanted to put in a water softening system in my house.  Not in the current townhome we own, but the first house - I can't wait.


Well, I didn't til I read this but you can bet the house itself I'm saying "Hell no" to soft water. I've showered in your parents' house - I then feel the need to squeege myself afterwards. Soft water in Casa de Whiteboy? Nope.

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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2004, 10:07:17 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2004, 11:01:31 PM »

I'm with jancelot that the water is so hard at my place that it leaves mineral deposits on everything, and then mildew grows on that, Jance, that orange stuff is mildew/mold... Gotta keep it clean continuously and if you get good air in there it's usually not an issue.

Anyways, I definately prefer harder water to softer water, and I feel your pain, the least you could do is replace the shower head with a fancier one that can up the pressure and change how the water comes out, thus getting you a little cleaner.
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2004, 12:30:49 AM »

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WBS doesn't know this, but I have always wanted to put in a water softening system in my house.  Not in the current townhome we own, but the first house - I can't wait.


Well, I didn't til I read this but you can bet the house itself I'm saying "Hell no" to soft water. I've showered in your parents' house - I then feel the need to squeege myself afterwards. Soft water in Casa de Whiteboy? Nope.

Respeckt.

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You gonna take that from him?

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Well - WBS has definitely thrown down the gauntlet - maybe there will have to be a compromise in our future - ?  Instead of a ruling?
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2004, 12:38:14 AM »

Nothing like a shower from some hard water where you come out covered in white powder from the calcium building up on your skin.  That's how the shower in my apartment use to be.  :cry:
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2004, 12:45:31 AM »

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Here in Tennessee we use the old fashion plain type of water...mine comes from this here thing called a "well" .....no hard or soft water here...no sir ree. Feels good! Tastes good! and rinses clean away. You yuppies and your special water.  :roll:


No well water in Chattanooga smile


Heh I was in Chattanooga today and stopped by Fat Moes again. Man I loves those giant hamburgers.
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2004, 02:53:03 AM »

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Well - WBS has definitely thrown down the gauntlet - maybe there will have to be a compromise in our future - ?  Instead of a ruling?


How boringly diplomatic of you.  Grow some fuckin' stones, woman!   :wink:
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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2004, 03:05:42 AM »

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Quote from: "Sepiche"
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WBS doesn't know this, but I have always wanted to put in a water softening system in my house.  Not in the current townhome we own, but the first house - I can't wait.


Well, I didn't til I read this but you can bet the house itself I'm saying "Hell no" to soft water. I've showered in your parents' house - I then feel the need to squeege myself afterwards. Soft water in Casa de Whiteboy? Nope.

Respeckt.

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You gonna take that from him?

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Well - WBS has definitely thrown down the gauntlet - maybe there will have to be a compromise in our future - ?  Instead of a ruling?




How's this - I rule that we will only have hard water and no soft water. There, done.
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2004, 05:03:21 AM »

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Here in Tennessee we use the old fashion plain type of water...mine comes from this here thing called a "well" .....no hard or soft water here...no sir ree. Feels good! Tastes good! and rinses clean away. You yuppies and your special water.  :roll:


No well water in Chattanooga smile


Heh I was in Chattanooga today and stopped by Fat Moes again. Man I loves those giant hamburgers.


MMMmmm.... Fat Mo's... I love 'em, but my arteries can only take one or two a year.
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